Bleach 309 "Pray For the Mantis" spoilers and discussion

[Soranushi]

I just read binktopia's scan because I like comparing each translation to find the best one to keep. But after I read page 12 I couldn't stop laughing that was hilarious but it was unnecessary for them to make it except for laughs I almost suffocated after what Noitora said on page 17

Oh yeah before I forget I was rereading the ch.197-211 and I was like how come those Fraccion were that strong even though they were Gillian. And Yeah I know that after the limits were released Grimms Fraccion were murdered instantly.
But still something I would have never thought of before came to mind. That concerns the why Espada's 9,8,7,and soon to be 5 were defeated so fast was because they are Natural Arrancar. Why are they weaker because they have hearts which in turn makes them weaker because they have more Human emotions and Only one Hougyoku Arrancar was defeated and that was Grimmjow.

So basically none of the Espada that have died or have been defeated were Created by Aizen and I think Arrancar are stronger when made by the HG that could explain somethings like the seemingly off power levels. Also Natural Arrancar are more of a Liability because of there Emotions look at Privarons. Also that makes Noi the strongest of the Natural Espada left I think I'm reading to deep into things but it can explain somethings.

So what I'm saying is that Hougyoku Arrancar are Stronger than Natural Arrancar when they first become Arrancar but throguh training either type can become more powerful

[GreenBlack]

Screw canon, in my mind Nnoi is hindu

Wow, I enjoyed this chapter a lot. It really displays the power of the espada!

[Agmaster]

Binktopia scanslation == hatesex.

[Lunar]

All I've got to say is Nnoitora is so damn powerful in that form.A four-armed mantis,strange...I too think it's a concept from Hindu gods.The thing that I didn't get is Nnoitora should have fused back with his nucleus in his zanpakutou,so,why would he still have his zanpakutou?

[Hiraga]

IMO Nnoitora's release is awesome!
I thought it was something ... disgusting like Zomari's, but luckily I wasn't right. XD
A mantis, huh? At first I didn't know what it was, but I reread the chapter twice, and then I noticed...
His zanpaktou's name is a bit strange (Santa Teresa), since it's a woman name, but then I thought of my last Biology lesson, and I understand it now

[loveisrationed]

Man.

I've never seen Kenpachi fall down like that. The wound looks really bad.

Great chapter.

[Jack Van Burace]

Perhaps his weakening will enable him to listen to his sword. Ichigo has a strong reiatsu too, and he only listens to Zangetsu when he is weakened. Ichigo and Kenpachi can't restrain their own powers, and I bet Zaraki never heard his sword's name because he is never weak enough.

Since Nnoitora can cut his body one way or another, Zaraki could try keeping his spirit pressure low and lend his power to the sword. I get the feeling that every time he loses his eye-patch, he becomes strong but his sword becomes weaker instead, and that's why he loses. Nnoitora keeps saying his sword feels light, so I bet this might be the key to strengthening his blows and defeating Nnoitora.

[Mad_Scientist]

I think someone else said this earlier, that the Kenpachi/Nnoitra fight might mirror the Ichigo/Kenpachi fight some, this time with Kenpachi in the role of Ichigo. And so far, it has resembled it a bit.

First, the hero is unable to cut his foe.

Then, he overcomes that barrior. (In Kenpachi's case, he really overcame it)

But then he is one-shotted, and is left on the ground near death. (Ichigo cause he got careless and Kenpachi stopped holding back, and Kenpachi because Nnoitra released.)

So, if it continues, we'll see some inner Kenpachi thoughts, perhaps a flashback for him. Then he'll learn something new about his Zanpactou, in his case he might even be learning the name for the first time. I'm guessing with Kenpachi his Zanpactou talk will be slightly different, probably something along the lines of Kenpachi's sword enjoying fighting just as much as him but being unhappy because it's never able to really use its power or go all out, and Kenpachi realizing that he never knew how much fun it was to fight with something that loved combat as much as him.

[tari101190]

well...i'm pretty suprised that zaraki wasn't strong enough to push nnoitra back seeing as they're both 'released' now. (eye-pathless and resurected)

maybe zaraki was weaker than i thought...

and maybe the power increase zaraki gets from taking of the eye-patch isn't as big as i thought too.

or maybe he is around nnoitra's level. perhaps its just that he couldn't push past one of his blades (as in a stae-mate), and nnoitra could easily slice him with the other 3 in the meantime...

*cheat*

by the way. i say it could have been a stale-mate cos if zaraki was weaker. his zanpakutou may have broke, or zaraki could have been forced back.

[mitzibe]

Nnoitra-sama >>>> Kenny. Kenny is so 2004. I knew it, I knew Nnoitra-sama is a God. Thank Nnoitra-sama I have 309 after I read 308 because I was about to cry, then. Kenny is your typical, rugged boulderhouse swathing around with a weird hairdo and joker bells. It's a peace sign victory when he fell like that. GO, NNOITRA SAMA.

Also, Kubo is wrong. Pray TO the Mantis and not Pray FOR the mantis. I hope Kenny gets sliced in half like Tesura did.

*South Park scene comes on*

OMG! THEY KILLED KENNY! THE B******S!

You know it's going to proceed this way. Peace.