Bleach 381 "Words Just Don't Like You" Spoilers and Discussion

[d3nv3r]

Re: The vizards have already seen Aizen's shikai - they must have done sometime before the night they all were hollowfied. Else, do you not think someone would have asked Shinji where is his Vice-Capt and why is a bald guy following him everywhere. I know it's one of those not explicitly shown - but I think we're safe to assume that (nearly) everyone in Seretei has been exposed to Kyouka Suiegtsu (sp?)....

Also just dropping Ichigo off @ FKT to attack Aizen is nonsensical as all he'll do is activate his sword right in front of Ich, first chance he gets and BANG! immunity over.

Like the second spoiler - hope it's true, but seems there's no authentication on it, errr - that's what Aizen should have done first. Hypnotise the allies into fighting each other. Common sense if you have this ability and are seriously out-numbered.
OK-ish chapter from these few spoilers, but so many questions still left without answers... Main one for me is, Ishida & Inoue - what are they still doing and what are their thought's on orange hair now ?! Is she scared of him, is Ishida p*ssed at him, are they scr*wing on the dome roof ?, just one panel will do so we can move on properly !

Anyhoo, huge thanks for the spoilers - bit later this week, but not complainin' just curious if there is a break or change of release date due....

[neverwinter]

I dont. We have a lot to see... Royal Guard, Royal Key, the King, Urahara, Isshin, Ryuuken, Aizen conquering SS..... not 2 or 3 years, really...

And sorry but Zaraki? Even more Zaraki? I wouldnt make any plot advance, imo. He's just a secondary character without any plot development with Aizen. I dont see any Zaraki flashback at all. Whats more, we already have Zaraki's flashback to read...

It looks pretty offtopic, but, talking about the chapter.... the spoilers are all? thats all?

Why couldnt it finish soon? Im not saying its the definite end but its not out of the realms of possibility that KT is just bored of Bleach and just wants to bring it to a conclusion. It wouldnt be the first manga in the world that ended quickly, or ended without any conclusion.

And just because KT said there would be 2 more arcs...that doesnt mean much. An arc could easily be 10 chapters like TBTP. If KT really does want to end Bleach he could do it within a year if he really wanted to.

There is no denying that compared to past history, hes certainly picked the pace up...its now running at lightspeed compared to its previous speed of sound. The fact that hes trashed his top 3 so quickly and has Ichigo going back to FKT so quick has people thinking that maybe he just wants to get it over as soon as he can.

In saying that I doubt it. Bleach has a lot of legs left as long as KT has the legs for it. I just thinK KT has probably been stung far to often with people complaining about the pace. That or hes about to pull the biggest screw job in the world and reveal that the captains have spent the last 50 odd chapters chopping at each other instead of the Espada.

Why would he be immune? It's not like he's blind when he's rampaging.

Furthermore, neither Unohana nor Mayuri knows that the Vizards are in FKT. Imho, still Shinji has the highest chance of beating Aizen.

I mean, Aizen oneshotted Komamura back then with a chantless lvl90 kidou. Ichigo... even if they would somehow get rid of Kyouka Suigetsu... could not win against him.

And then calculate in Aizen's bankai.

Exactly. And even during the rampage, there is still an intelligence at work. Its not as if the creature becomes a brain dead zombie.

Anything that has Ichigo touching Aizen is just wrong and will be bad writing.

I mean Aizen has been played as a super genius....so he should know that Ichigo was never put under his hypnosis. SO its a two second job to catch him under the illusion. Unless KT ofc forgets or retcons that he should be able to release without the command.

Maybe Aizen hasnt put him under yet because Ichigo is part of his plans? Maybe he wants to bring him over to his side on his own free will?

[Umbra888]

Excuse me ALL...

Kubo stated that Ichigo is the only one who can defeat Aizen becuase he hasn't seen his shikai...

He did not say "it is only you Ichigo"...

That is such a cliff hanger line... Aizen is most definatly NOT going to be defeated by Ichigo now...

[Smk]

tss... Ichigo the last hope... i'm laughing

I remind you that the division 0 haven't seen yet kyogasuigetsu ... and they are stronger than ichigo. just need that yama-jii talk with them... it's not really difficult -_-'

About Yammy , this man is still useless... like all espada :/

[smach]

To me this chapter is just another way of saying "that thing from before" will most likely come out again since I don't see Ichigo being of any use against Aizen & co. Just because it doesn't work on him doesn't mean the others can't be fooled into attacking him instead. Plus he's still all emo'd out about having to kill blah blah blah...


PS: 2-minute chapters FTL

[Night]

But Ichigo fighting Aizen now doesn't really make sense. So he hauls his weak ass over to FKT and engages Aizen? And the others probably would let him do it. That's called assisted suicide. (But sometimes characters behave as if they know they or others are protected by plot armour, and therefore getting away with stupid stunts).

I hope there's more to the Captains saying he's the only one who can defeat him since, as has been said countless times, getting Ichigo to fall under hypnosis is the easiest thing.

[Black Kaiser]

We shouldn't jump in conclusions, they are only early spoilers after all. Possibly Unohana means "you are the only one who can help us defeat Aizen" and not "you are our messiah" which is quite true since Ichigo isn't under Kyouka suigetsu's influence.

It seems that's why a part of the Gotei13 captains invaded Hueco Mundo. Their order was possibly to retrieve Ichigo so they can use him against Aizen. Although I guess Aizen has already predicted that.

[smach]

@BK: Of what help could he possibly be though? Aside from that which KT will create in the next 2-3ch...

[Neliel is mine]

LOL Ichigo was just getting his ass whopped by Yammy, now he wants to fight Aizen? pfttt. Even if he hasn't seen Aizen's Shikai and isn't under hypnosis, what difference would it make? Aizen is a master of Kido, Shinpu, and is a powerhouse himself.

Ichigo is screwed. The only way possible is IF GOD MODE ICHIGO returns after he gets pawned and then I can see that "thing" giving Aizen a run for the money. But regular Ichigo? pftt. Give me a break.

He is about to get wtf pawned.

In any event, I see a big plot twist coming.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. *reps Tosen*

The spoilers sound like total crap.

Ichigo doesn't even deserves an Aizen release at all. Are you guys forgetting that he is a master of ALL Shinigami arts and very possibly has a mastered hollow form of his own as that's why he left SS in the first place?

This is just super bad and rushed writing at it's best. It's like Mayuri, a smart man suddenly became a moron and smoked some in Szayel's lab and he's all high saying that shit. Come on now, he "died" fighting Ulquiorra, struggles against Apocalypse and he's gonna beat Aizen now? Logic where are you, I'm looking for you, come here logic.

I really expect the chapter to be much better as the spoilers show is total shit so far.

[Umbra888]

And that's not correct that Ichigo is the only one who hasn't seen Aizen's shikai...

There is one other character who cannot see Aizen's bankai...

Why have we forgotten about him?

I agree with you Black Kaiser...

I really feel as though that these snippets of dialogue are insignificant in the way of delivering a chapter...

I'm sure all will be revealed soon !!! Just be patient ...