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Thread: Shunpo or Sonido?

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    I love the sound of the sonido.
    That strange buzz sound effect in the anime is freaking cool.
    so yeah, that's the only thing I can comment on this.lol.


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    I love sonido cause it's sounds like.. i dunno it's just awesome,
    like it distorts space and sounds like crack like you guys mentioned.

    It sounds like a fart though, in a cool way
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    I think they're just three slightly different takes on the same high speed concept.

    Sonido may be more useful against Arrancar, because it allows you to get around Pesquia (the detection thing). But I don't think that means it's faster overall.
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    Sonido is crushing and Shunpo is good riddance.
    And i like to crush.
    So sonido rockzz for me.
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    They are all the same. But yes Sonido has the much cooler sound. Doesn't make it better though. They are all equal. Just depends on who uses it.

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    Default Did Aizen use Sonido?

    Guys, sorry for posting here. I can't use the search function to see where it was posted originally.
    Sometime ago some readers just noticed that Aizen used Sonido and not Shunpo on a chapter cause the "sound" of it. Was it confirmed? Anyone can tell me where was it?

    ---------- Post added at 02:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 AM ----------

    Erm, sorry for double posting. But this wasn't exactly what I wanted to say. In a chapter in Karakura Town, Aizen used a Quick Speed tech that some guys were saying here that was the Sonido. Cause the "sound" it made on the scene. The characteres on the scene were of a Sonido and not of a Shunpo.

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    Both or neither. They are the opposite equivalent of one another. An experienced shunpo user can outpace a sonido user and vice versa. Shunsui and Stark are clear examples of this.
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    I don't think they are the same, but I think that they each have their own perks. It all depends on who uses it and if they use it correctly.

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    Yes, only arrancars have sonido. And judging from the sound and other factors, several things come to mind.

    First of all, pure hollows are unable to use advanced techniques, unless it's their own specialization. In other words, if a hollow's specialty is tentacles, he'll only have that specific ability (and all abilities that have tentacles as a theme) and none other. That's because hollows are instinctual creatures. Their abilities are manifestations of their instinct. Beings who rely on instinct cannot master any other ability, but what their instinct dictates. That's why hollows could not hide their reiatsu, until Aizen came along and introduced shinigami traits.

    By introducing shinigami traits, hollows no longer relied on just their instincts, but reason as well. Mastery of abillities requiring reason became possible. The power of reason gives one greater ability to control one's own personal reiatsu, so they could perform techniques outside their own personal nature.

    Sonido is a copy of shunpo. However, that it's not the same as shunpo, suggests that sonido is more hollowlike (well, DUH). If it's more hollowlike, it could be reasoned that it relies more on instinct and less on fine reiatsu control.

    From my impression, shunpo seems to concentrate a large amount of reiatsu in their feet. The speed of shunpo is dependent on both foot skills (similar to eyeshield 21), the amount of reiatsu and the timing of when they use their reiatsu (by releasing reiatsu in sudden bursts). Shinigami expel reiatsu from their feet to propel themselves forward. The sound that shunpo makes (woosh), is because the body of the shinigami is displacing the air. Which would be caused by AIR resistance.

    Sonido on the other hand relies less on fine control. Instead of focusing on the limbs doing the movement, the technique probably involves their entire body. If the technique involves the entire body, it would make sense why it would mess up any detection. Instead of EJECTING reiatsu, they are probably focusing it INWARDS towards their body. This way they strengthen the natural strength of the body and use the condensed reiatsu of their body to move themselves forward. The echoing sound is probably because a more condensed reiatsu is displacing the air, resulting in ripples in the air. Similar to a large rock displacing air.
    This interpretation makes sense, cause:
    - like stated, it avoids detection, by focusing reiatsu inwards
    - it requires less fine reiatsu control. Hollows don't have the finesse to focus their reiatsu on their feet alone.
    - it explains the echoes
    - by very nature, hollows rely more on their bodies than shinigami. Even their zanpakutou abilities is an ability that focuses on their bodies.
    - it makes more sense than teleportation , since it seems that shinigami can still follow them with their eyes. Otherwise, we would have heard comments about them making disappearing acts.

    The speed of sonido is dependent on how well a hollow can focus their reiatsu inwards. If he does it perfectly, he can avoid reiatsu detection entirely. Another factor is also the natural strength of the body itself.

    As for hirenkyaku, it doesn't involve the body AT ALL. Not only does it not rely on muscles or the ejection of reiatsu from their body, it solely relies on them using the reiatsu from the environment, surrounding themselves with it. According to Ishida, he considered it a superior technique than shunpo. I think he's referring to the notion that hirenkyaku is purely a reiatsu based technique, requiring more fine reiatsu control. Shunpo and sonido on the other hand have an element, where it relies partly on the natural abilities of the user's body and thus relies less on technique but more on inborn ability. From the two, sonido relies the heaviest on inborn ability, though.

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    I'm going to echo what has already been said on this subject. As I see it Sonido, Shunpo and even Hirenkyaku are all similar techniques, in the same way that say a train, car and motorcycle are all similar inventions. They operate on different principles, but the end result is the same: They all get you from Point A to Point B.

    Sonido, like all Hollow powers, is an instinctive technique. Before they are unmasked, Hollows are driven almost entirely by instinct and desire. While some (the Grand Fisher for example) may develop a sense of self-awareness and even preservation, their abilities are still more raw and perhaps animal-like than that of Shinigami or humans. Becoming an Arrancar returns some of that self-control and allows them to fully develop all of their potential techniques. And some Arrancar like Zommari have even greater potential for high speed movement.

    In keeping with the theme of Hollows, Sonido seems to rely more upon literally moving ones body. Its all very raw and physical. The cracking 'sonic boom' sound is a cool effect, and I've always taken it to mean that there is something different and perhaps sinister about it. I also wonder if the ability to use Sonido isn't somehow related to the ability to open Garganta. What we do know is that Sonido can be used to create mirror images (like Zommari did) and that is evades Pesquisa.

    In contrast, both Shunpo and Hirenkyaku are learned techniques which require training and practice to master. Both seem to involve manipulating reiatsu, though from what we've seen, Hirenkyaku seems to require more finesse. Uryu claimed that Hirenkyaku is the superior technique, which suggests that it may allow for higher speed or agility, which brings me to my next point.

    Any of these techniques might have certain advantages over the others, but it also depends on the skill and power of the user as well. In other words, while Hirenkyaku MAY be faster than Shunpo overall, a master at Shunpo can still be faster than a Quincy using Hirenkyaku, if only because shinigami have much greater potential than humans. Thats why Mayuri was able to outpace Uryu, and for that matter, why Byakua was able to outpace Zommari. Now maybe the fully developed Arrancar COULD have become equal to Shinigami in time, but thats a matter for speculation.

    As for using BOTH or even all three techniques, it would require a Hollow-Shinigami hybrid like Aizen talked about. I suspect that the Vizard (Ichigo included) have the potential for both while masked. And I strongly suspect that Aizen has somehow learned Sonido. But it doesn't seem that any Arrancar have yet developed Shunpo, or any other Shinigami abilities really...

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