Ishida x Orihime; the Gentleman and the Fair Maiden

[debbiechan]

ISHIDA & ORIHIME FANCLUB
The Gentleman and the Fair Maiden
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/ishiorifc2BYSYNEIAM.png

thank you to Syn for new banner

Welcome to the Ishida and Orihime fanclub. If you ship this couple romantically, like them as friends, or enjoy their interactions in fanworks, feel free to contribute fanwork links (fic, writing, banners, AMVs, etc) to in a post. All you have to do to join is say you want to in a post.

This FC is still under construction. But as with Ishida and Orihime themselves, take a little ingenuity, add imagination and dreams take flight.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/IshihimeAirplanePix.png


please read the important following rules:

RULES:
*If you do not like a pairing DO NOT post in that pairing FC. If you read the fanclub and want to discuss something that was said then sort it out via PM or elsewhere, do NOT go into that fanclub and start a war. Anyone posting in a pairing fanclub that isn't a fan will almost automatically receive a ban.

*Try not to discuss other pairings unless it is absolutely neccessary.

*Please post these rules in the first post of your pairing FC.

*At this point in time any pairing/ship/ship wars issues will be dealt with by: spacecat. So please contact spacecat if there is a problem and not another mod.


Owner: debbiechan

Co-owner: Adam


Members:
Spacecat
Syn
Jaimie
Dice
Ileenka
Sora Chan
Eurys
Adam
Yorleni
Nama
jdm6845
Sergelia
Shannon
Alaena Night
Czy
Yahoosoda
Ametatsu
AnimeGirlPan
Blueberry
Kiri
Caboose
Sapphire Star
Jhaxe
Kibou chin
La Kalaka
MiaKa
Sequora
Isuzu
Chappyrules
Chichiru
Orihime
Puchiko2
Eave
Kalyrn
AnimeFunFan1229
Renegade Rain
Natsu
mitzibe
Sybile
StarryInoueSky
enaira_lime
Vizard King
kiten_dama
yllanger
ylla
UniAniGi
syNeMyOa
sasuki-chan
MiaKa
mezzo_marinaio
Lookingback7
Azumi 15
CrystalRaindrop
Sensa_689
marie ★
SarahChan
Nacchan
Spinel Sun
Schneider
kimmie-chan
FireCandy
Cute_Poison
God_of_Flash
kaya
windxalchemist
Lady Mizura
Linabana
07Janina07
Tsubaki88
Peliqua
Quincy Lover
Sukati
Naminé
doublehelping
Bleach Obsessed
JediSpiceGissia
Mizu No Tenshi
neilcfreak
cris
princessjeza07
Navirae


FANLISTING
Fairy Tales:http://www.artistic-anarchy.net/ishihime/

LIVE JOURNAL COMMUNITY: http://community.livejournal.com/ishihime/

DEVIANTART COMMUNITY: http://ishida-x-orihime.deviantart.com/

ICONS by Yorleni: http://yorleni.livejournal.com/24814.html

AMVs

ISHIHIME YOUTUBE GROUP http://youtube.com/group/ishihime

"Show Me Love" by Yorlenisama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljD4Ar9n48

"Whispers in the Dark" by SasukeY2JUchiha:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ovyR59KDg

"Ishida and Orihime Romance--Satriani style by Seanvampire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb7YAINqaE


AMVs by Chichiru:

Tell Her About It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmKyLzXQhvQ
Because Ishida Loves Orihime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmKyLzXQhvQ
If You Are Not The One
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXPIbnaE7jI
More Than Anyone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VwTUc3YRwA
Pretty Woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L11xmq94YVE
When You Love Someone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO3jcoT13NY
Lucky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7BguXBSENY
A Question Of Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-L8ObWEGao


SHIP MANIFESTOS

"The Geek Gets the Girl" by Electra Torch:
http://community.livejournal.com/ship_manifesto/102536.html
"There All Along" by debbiechan:
http://community.livejournal.com/ship_manifesto/161152.html
"Still There" by debbiechan: http://community.livejournal.com/ship_manifesto/tag/inoue+orihime


FANFICTION

Fanfiction.net C2: "The Thread That Binds"
http://www.fanfiction.net/community/The_Thread_That_Binds/30191/

Fanfiction.net C2: "The Princess and Her Four-eyed Prince":
http://www.fanfiction.net/c2/20299/3/0/1/

FANART

IshiHime Art by ByPass: http://bypass.xxxxxxxx.jp/

"IshiHime Sort Of" by Orin:http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53909448/

"IshiHime Pocky" by DragonBoy MT:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22429388/

DOUJINSHI (family friendly): (IshiHime doujinshi is a rare thing; if anyone sees one for sale, alert the FC, please!)

Shooting Stars by Pilgrim Circle:
http://shop.twinbells.org/bleach01.php

SCREENCAPS by Kuwabara99
http://www.bleachforums.com/showpost.php?p=657139&postcount=18


BANNERS

by Euryshttp://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/eurys/IshidaInouefc.png


by Yorleni
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6176/sign3rq0.png
http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/18487/2003263298786179826_rs.jpg

by Ileenka
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1702/987oc7.jpg

Anyone and everyone, drop a reply if you want to join and if you have links, etc to give me since I lost mine when BleachForums went down. :( I hope to have more up very soon.)

[spacecat]

Heya Debbie I want in but first make sure you read the rules for pairing FC. You need to stick some of those rules in the first post of this FC.

[Syn]

Aw, Debbie, luckily I did save the IchiRuki FC before BF went down *has private entries in her LJ just for it*
If I stumble on some good IshiHime fanart I'll come over here. Oh, and joinage since I like them (they were so cute... let's hope for some IshiHime interaction in this arc).

[debbiechan]

Heya Debbie I want in but first make sure you read the rules for pairing FC. You need to stick some of those rules in the first post of this FC.

Haha, I had that copied but forgot it the minute I hit send. I was so eager to claim this club!

[Jaimie]

Joinage! ^_^ I've loved this pairing ever since their days in Soul Society together, and I still have faith that KT did not include their charming chemistry for nothing. He always picks up his stitches no matter how long it takes, right debbie? xD


I don't have many IshiHime fansites saved, sadly, but here are a few:

Bypass
http://bypass.xxxxxxxx.jp

Moderato
http://moderato2.web.fc2.com/index.html

Pilgrim (oh no! did it close?)
http://satsuki.sakura.ne.jp/~factory


I should do some searches when I have time. ^_^

[Syn]

First contribution to the FC: Header:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/Syneiam/ishihime.jpg

I hope you like Debbie ^^

[debbiechan]

*dances around* I love it! The colors and esp Orihime with her little menu board!
That was quick! Going to add it now!

[debbiechan]

You're in! Welcome and three cheers for Kubo's clever knitting needles--may he bring Ishida and Orihime together soon in upcoming chapters.

[Dice]

I would like to join this fc if you don't mind, Debbie. I loved their interaction in the SS arc and would love to see more of it.

[Ileenka]

I'd like to join this fanclub, Debbie. ^_^

[Sora Chan]

Ohh add me. I love how Ishida acts around Orihime. It is sooo cute. Syn once again, I really like the header. I also like the Orihime menu. ^_^

[debbiechan]

Dice, Ileenka, Sora-chan, you're in!
When I get a little less busy I'll post some links I've found--in the meantime anything we can add to the first post will be appreciated.

I know I've been saying this for a while, but the inevitable reunion between Ishida and Orihime is coming up. The story requires it--I'm really interested to see what's going to happen. Ishida's been so ... bada** all this arc, I would hate for him to fall right before he gets to Hime. I want her to see him being gallant and wonderful.

[eurys]

Ah, I was waiting for it :p
Can I join please debbie?

I love the 2 pics you chose in the opening post, love the parallel ^^

And yes, Ishida was so badass recently! And he broke his promise just to save Inoue!
I'm curious to see their reunion :)

[Adam]

I'm crashing this party. I'll have this Fan Club turned into a poetry corner, eventually.

[debbiechan]

Wee, Eurys and Adam, great to see you.

Yes, I love those panels--Orihime is grounded but lost in her imagination, and Ishida is flying, swept by destiny (!) but not noticing where he is. Anyway, that's how I see it.

Soon there will be a big crash and voila, both will open their eyes! :D

[Yorleni]

YES! JOIN! JOIN! JOIN! JOIN! JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIN!!!!!!!! *dance*

i create a new mmv of ishihime!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljD4Ar9n48

and icon post
http://yorleni.livejournal.com/24814.html

[debbiechan]

Omg *flails and fangurls* I've seen that AMV. And ... and... Yorleni, I love your icons.

*adds right away* I hope you have fun here and that we see an IshiHime reunion soon.

[Nama]

I want to join, I like IshiHime a lot. :) <3

[Yorleni]

OMG THANKS DEBBIE!! and you're welcome Nama ^^ and i created Banners
http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/18487/2003263298786179826_rs.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6176/sign3rq0.png

[eurys]

So, here's a banner I made for the FC (kinda like mine...well, I'm not a creative person lol).

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/eurys/IshidaInouefc.png

[debbiechan]

oh Eurys! Those are creative banners. I was just thinking earlier how much I liked yours and voila--an IshiHime one! Thanks!

[jdm6845]

I love Ishida and this pairing :). May I join too?

BTW, debbie, I think your avatar is absolutely adorable <3. It's been a favorite of mine for a really long time now.

[Adam]

@Eurys: I like the banner. Nice work.

[debbiechan]

Thanks JDM. I just added you. And the message of my icon is true too--I really do expect Ishida and Orihime to end up together!

I was noting that, given the parallels to SS arc, Kubo's recently given us Orihime on the sidelines of the GM battle just as she was during the Byakuya battle--both times she was trembling and afraid. Last time Ishida, to no avail, tried to get her to leave the battlescene. Maybe he'll sweep her away this time. ^^ What do you think?

I need to bring out the IshiHime optimism here. I'm going to be patient--I think their reunion is as inevitable as an IchiRuki reunion soon, and it may be almost as interesting.

[Sergelia]

Can I join? I love them together. Okay so I've not been too faithful (I blame a certain Espada >__>) but I eagerly await for The IshiHime Reunion (a lot of knight/princess references, please!) and I'm sure Orihime will wake up to the truth. Someday. I have faith. ^__^

[Ileenka]

I made a banner for the FC.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1702/987oc7.jpg

>_>

[Yorleni]

omg cute banner, justine!

so...

LOVE DROP IS LOVEEEEE *SQUEEEEE*
http://blog4.fc2.com/m/moira/file/070620.jpg
i need reunion IchiRuki/IshiHime

[debbiechan]

Welcome Sergelia! And thanks for the banner, Justine! Which reminds me--I need to resize my Uryuu banner. My banners are always so intrusive.

I need coffee. I just realized I put Jaina instead of Jaimie in my sig. I hereby acknowledge my true owner.

How's About a Discussion Topic?

When the (I believe inevitable) reunion happens in this arc, what do you think Orihime's reaction will be? Do you think Uryuu can make Orihime smile within a few chapters (or panels) after he shows up? I expect Uryuu to be all dashing and serious and protective but I can't call what Orihime may do.

[Syn]

That's a good question, Debbie, because well... I can't figure it either. Inoue has changed (as pinpointed by GJ and her weird reactions -while healing the two lolis, with Ulq afterwards), so what will be her reaction towards someone for who she barely had a thought since 80 chapters? oO Even though only 2/3 days passed since her abduction, it seems an eternity for me; and even more since they last interacted, so I can't figure out how their reunion will be.

[Sora Chan]

Ohh all the banners are so beautiful. Yorleni, that was an absolutely awesome Ishihime video *went straight to my favs*. As for their reunion, I'm not exactly sure what is going to happen, but I think some bit of it might focus on Ishida regaining his powers. Even though the manga has taken a pretty dim tone, I think it would be cute if this happened (however unlikely it may seem)
Inoue:Ishida-kun
Ishida:Inoue-san *Ishida is all bloody and what not from battle making him look ultra hot* I'm glad you are safe (I think he will find her unharmed)
Inoue:Ishida-kun *Gives him one of those looks Then she will put on a funny look of shock* Ishida-kun has his powers, but he lost them. How wonderful, but wait how is this possile, *and then goes Inoue off on a tangent*
Ishida: *Smiles at her* Inoue-san... *serious look* Inoue-san come on we are leaving

Hey debbie-chan, in the Ishihime FC at BF,someone made an albulm of Ishihime art. You wouldn't happen to have that would you?

Ohh two Ishihime fanarts.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Sorachan13/screencaps%20and%20such/eb3.png
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Sorachan13/screencaps%20and%20such/summer.gif

[debbiechan]

T_T Sora Chan--I can't find that album. I had the link but lost it when I changed computers. Maybe someone can start another one? I have random wonderful Japanese links of IshiHime art....

Here's one I LOOOOoove. Art by ByPass: http://bypass.xxxxxxxx.jp/

As for the IshiHime reunion, I can hear Ishida saying "You're coming with me, Inoue-san" and wasting no time.
Inoue may be all poopy now, but who knows if Ishida won't be the one to snap her out of it the way Rukia did with Ichigo. If she gives him a blank look and he goes all watery-eyed, it will just be so tragic. Gah!

[Adam]

How's About a Discussion Topic?

When the (I believe inevitable) reunion happens in this arc, what do you think Orihime's reaction will be? Do you think Uryuu can make Orihime smile within a few chapters (or panels) after he shows up? I expect Uryuu to be all dashing and serious and protective but I can't call what Orihime may do.

Shocked. That's how I imagine Inoue would initially react to seeing Ishida, as I don't think she's expecting him. From there, I'm not so sure; it depends on Ishida. Will he crack some dumb joke and make her smile? Or will getting to Inoue be so exceedingly difficult that Ishida shows up with a mess of injuries? Context is critical, and I have no idea what the setting will be for their next reunion.

[Sergelia]

I don't know what I expect. Like Adam, I think she'll be shocked; because she's always been so sure in Ichigo's abilities and now her faith is wavering, will Ishida's rampage of PWN in HuecoMundo arc impress her enough to open her eyes? Cause for now I think that where he is concerned, she's STILL in her "Oh, sorry Ishida-kun, I thought I was with Tatsuki-chan..." phase. T__T
But really, when was the last time we saw Orihime *really* smile? Back when she was talking to Rukia? When? If Ishida could manage to bring a true smile to her face now, when she is slowly breaking on the inside, I deem the couple a finished business. They deserve happiness, the both of them.

[Ileenka]

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3171/070620ix0.jpg

[Sergelia]

O__o very pretty, art-wise, but that's one violent Ishida right there.

*loves it*

[debbiechan]

Oh I love it. It's not violent, in my view--it's like he's snapping her out of it. "Inoue-san, you're coming with me."

Look how she's clenching his clothes instead of trying to get away.:D

[Syn]

I agree, LDB's art is so pretty *______* *stares some more XD*
And I don't think Ishida is violent either, more like a snap it out expression there. So nice ^^

[debbiechan]

Context is critical, and I have no idea what the setting will be for their next reunion.

Exactly. Although whatever the context would've been for the Orihime and Ichigo reunion, I think it's fair to say that most people predicted Ichigo right but not Orihime (she hasn't reacted strongly to anything recently--she does seem in shock). I think most people can gauge what an IchiRuki will be like. I can see Ishida's reaction when he sees Orihime again (unlike Adam, I don't think he's the type to crack a joke right away--with Renji yes, but with Orihime he's going to be more serious, cautious, and gentle). Orihime is the wild card here.

Then again, Orihime's been the wild card for chapters. Her behaviour is unpredictable and who knows what Kubo will have her do in any given situation.

Btw, Adam, I just claimed you in the Claim a Member thread. Can't believe people let a nice catch like you slip by! :p

[Adam]

Unlike Adam, I don't think he's the type to crack a joke right away--with Renji yes, but with Orihime he's going to be more serious, cautious, and gentle.

Maybe he wouldn't purposely crack a joke. I was thinking more along the lines of Ishida saying something silly, like he did when he went to rescue Rukia before the Soul Society arc.

Btw, Adam, I just claimed you in the Claim a Member thread. Can't believe people let a nice catch like you slip by! :p

I just got owned.

[Syn]

I'm on a roll for fanarts so here is what I found today:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/Syneiam/004.gif

[debbiechan]

A new IshiHime fic from me.
A little weird one.

Erk, in the old BF FC I had a new IshiHime every other week. I've been side-tracked by ensemble pieces and yaoi lately. :) I must write more IshiHime. He's about to find her, guys--I swear he is!

Anyway. "Inoue-san, You're Coming With Me" is at http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/48389.html#cutid1

[Ileenka]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/22/ishiori28bbn6.jpg

[debbiechan]

Oh Ishida looks lovely in a purple headdress.
Quincy should wear more flowers. I mean, he's already got that butterfly fetish. Flowers seem to follow....

[Shannon]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/b0redomness/eb14.png
May I join this FC? I can't believe I didn't before. Gasp!
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/b0redomness/uriori1.gif

[debbiechan]

Of course, Shannon. Welcome to the club! Hope you have fun here. IshiHime is so charming--we haven't had IshiHime interaction yet for a long while but I'm sure we can come up with things to talk about. A daisy to who-ever comes up with another one.

Ohhh, you own the Romeo and Juliet club .... must go there.

[Ileenka]

I wonder when will we get to see the IshiOri reunion. >_>
Sick of waiting. >_>

[Shannon]

A daisy and an internet hug for anyone who can think of a nice, good, thick topic to talk about until Ishida and Orihime interact. XD

[debbiechan]

I wonder when will we get to see the IshiOri reunion. >_>
Sick of waiting. >_>

Imagine me! lol.
Maybe we can have a poll as to how many chapters. Do we think its going to happen before or after IchiRuki reunion.... *glares at Kubo-san*

I knew the moment that Ishida showed up on that rock that he was going to Hueco Mundo and that there would be a reunion.... all these fights keep getting in the way of my OTP romance!

It's too late--my brain is too numb to think up topics. I expect to be throwing buckets of daisies a la Nanao when I wake up?

[Ileenka]

I hope it will happen before the IchiRuki reunion, for some reason. XD I miss Ishida already. T--T

[Shannon]

I do too. :[
And KT stopped at the climatic part of his battle. At least finish his battle too! Orihime is waiting! Or is it gonna be another Mayuri? Get there and the knock out by Tousen? I hope not.

[Ileenka]

Hahaha, you know what I find funny.

Ishida almost reaching Rukia in SS arc but got knocked out by Tousen.
Ichigo almost reaching Orihime in HM arc but got owned by Ulquiorra.

Although, Ulquiorra and Tousen are unrelated to each other, I still find the roles of heroes vs supposed love interests (heroines) too coincidental to be dismissed.

[Adam]

Nice to see you here, Shannon.

A daisy and an internet hug for anyone who can think of a nice, good, thick topic to talk about until Ishida and Orihime interact. XD

How about a discussion on how Uryuu's father would view a relationship between his son and Orihime? Orihime's air-headed nature seems like it would clash with Ryuken's cold personality, but maybe it would be just what Uryuu's dad needs to lighten up.

Ryuken seems to follow Quincy tradition to a fault, so what if Orihime's powers are hollow-based like Chad's and Ryuken learned of this? Quincy hate hollows a lot...

Perhaps some conflict between Uryuu and his daddy would help Uryuu learn what he really wants to protect.

There. I tried to think of a topic. Now I shall pass the baton to somebody else.

Hahaha, you know what I find funny.

Ishida almost reaching Rukia in SS arc but got knocked out by Tousen.
Ichigo almost reaching Orihime in HM arc but got owned by Ulquiorra.

Although, Ulquiorra and Tousen are unrelated to each other, I still find the roles of heroes vs supposed love interests (heroines) too coincidental to be dismissed.

Wasn't Ichigo going for Rukia at the time? If you view that scene this way, then the parallel becomes:

Ishida almost reaching Rukia in SS arc but got knocked out by Tousen.
Ichigo almost reaching Rukia in HM arc but got knocked out by Ulquiorra.

[Ileenka]

@Adam: Well yes, but I was referring to how close Ishida was to reaching Rukia in SS and the same incident also occured between Ichigo and Orihime in HM. XD

[Shannon]

How about a discussion on how Uryuu's father would view a relationship between his son and Orihime? Orihime's air-headed nature seems like it would clash with Ryuken's cold personality, but maybe it would be just what Uryuu's dad needs to lighten up.

Ryuken seems to follow Quincy tradition to a fault, so what if Orihime's powers are hollow-based like Chad's and Ryuken learned of this? Quincy hate hollows a lot...

Perhaps some conflict between Uryuu and his daddy would help Uryuu learn what he really wants to protect.

There. I tried to think of a topic. Now I shall pass the baton to somebody else.


Good thinking. :p
Ryuken might not allow it, like he did with shinigami, but then again, he did let Uryu go and try to rescue Orihime with Ichigo, a shinigami. Or did he escape? I breezed through those chapters, and my mind is fuzzy about that. :confused:
And I would think that the light air around Orihime might lighten his father up too, since he does need a bit of sunshine in his life (Ishida isn't one to lighten up his father, anyways.). Aside from Isshin. O.o;

*crawls back into nowhere*

[eurys]

How about a discussion on how Uryuu's father would view a relationship between his son and Orihime?
Well, Orihime is not a shinigami, which is the most important thing in her favor XD
Though her recent power development highlights her strange nature... but maybe it makes her closer to Quincies than it makes her different.
I think Orihime's good grades (and thus her intelligence) work in her favor too. It would totally please Ryuuken lol.

[debbiechan]

Daisies and hugs to Adam for the discussion topic (and a garland headdress from Hime for lagniappe).

From the little we've seen of Ryuuken, he strikes us as a fellow who doesn't warm up to people easily, right? Not knowing about Orihime's intelligence or specific good deeds, he wouldn't judge her fairly and I think she'd annoy the hell out of him at first.

Ryuuken may also have had, as some are speculating, a tragic relationship with his wife and he wouldn't want that for Uryuu--"messy emotions" and all that.

Finally, Uryuu is sixteen now and since he was little, Ryuuken's ambition for him was that he would grow up "to save the living" and be a medical doctor like a good Japanese son. I suspect that Ryuuken would find a girlfriend a hindrance and distraction to Uryuu's studies; he may think Uryuu's too young for such nonsense.

Uryuu, of course, who is defiant teenager in so many ways, wouldn't care. He and Orihime wouldn't need Ryuuken's approval--although Orihime's ways effect everyone, and she would probably win Ryuuken over eventually. She may even be the one to break through his brittle exterior....

say, with a grandchild? :)A grandchild might make Ryuuken think he could start over and he might be very indulgent with him/her. If Orihime brought a grandchild into his life, Ryuuken might have no defense against accepting the IshiHime relationship.

EDIT:

Oh yeah, and I agree with Adam that Ryuuken may be the one who leads Uryuu into discovering what he wants to protect. That "what" could be Orihime but the concept may be as general as "family" or "loved ones." Maybe Ishida will save his father's life somehow. He owes him that much for the incident with that tongue-Menos.

[Alaena Night]

Hi everyone! May I join?

I used to be a member over at BF, and I'd love to join up here! It's all prettified and decorated, and IshiHime is the cutest pairing ever!

[Shannon]

Welcome! ^^

[debbiechan]

Alaena Night! *tackle glomps* Don't forget to put up links here as your fics are updated.

Got a discussion topic, anyone? Treading dangerous "other pairing" ground, I'm wondering if Orihime's eventual character development might take Orihime down the road where she's views Ichigo more realistically (and less like the prince of her fantasies). This may or may not open her up to Ishida--but if Ishida swoops in and saves her, dressed in that tunic that looks like Prince Charming's, wouldn't that be just replacing her fantasy if she's awed by him? Or does Orihime already have a more realistic view of Ishida? Is she already "closer" to Ishida than she is to Ichigo?

I don't think we'll get answers to these questions for some time, but its fun to speculate, right?

*no character bashing or provocations of other shippers allowed* I'll throw you into the mods' den!

[czy]

I'm late for coming here XP

Can I join? XDDD

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I'm fantasizing Adam's topic about Orihime and Ryuken's relationships..
As we know, Uryuu's mother hasn't been referred to ever.
What does Ryken's wife (Uryuu's mother) look like? Does she or her personality look like Orihime?
So I'm really interested in it. XP

[Shannon]

It's never too late. :p
Welcome! *waves*

[debbiechan]

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I'm fantasizing Adam's topic about Orihime and Ryuken's relationships..
As we know, Uryuu's mother hasn't been referred to ever.
What does Ryken's wife (Uryuu's mother) look like? Does she or her personality look like Orihime?
So I'm really interested in it. XP

Welcoms czy!
It's interesting how sometimes a resemblance to a mom can make a girl attractive to a guy (in anime and manga anyway). I figure Uyruu's mom had black hair, but beyond that--I'm just waiting for Kubo to tell us something about her. Ryuuken's whole story has to be told at some climatic moment.

[Shannon]

It's interesting how sometimes a resemblance to a mom can make a girl attractive to a guy (in anime and manga anyway). I figure Uyruu's mom had black hair, but beyond that--I'm just waiting for Kubo to tell us something about her. Ryuuken's whole story has to be told at some climatic moment.

I'd like that to happen too, but on the downside, manga's like Bleach don't really have much back stories. *sob*

[Alaena Night]

*wanders in shyly* Hello, everyone!

@ Debbiechan: Thanks for the welcome! *hugs you tight* about your question, I sure hope so. It would be so nice if events led Orihime to see Ichigo less as a flawless, worshippable prince. IMO, her feelings for Ichigo are more of an infatuation borne out of the fact that he's everything she wishes she could be: a strong fighter, careless of other's opinions, quick to protect. I think she relates a lot to him because they both lost someone very close to them at a young age. Here's hoping that she somehow realizes that there's someone out there who's really been playing the role of her protector and loves her. :p

Uhh... sorry if I rambled. ^^

Hehe, since it looks like Kubo isn't paying the least bit of attention to IshiHime, I sorta had to write my own... ^^ I just added a new chapter to Essence, after the longest writer's block and my birthday and my sister's birthday and the birthdays of two friends. (Busy.) *blush* Umm... But yay, I'm seventeen now. :D

Story Link: Essence - Ch. 11, Colors of a Dying Day (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3206172/1/)
Summary: [IshiHime & IchiRuki] He really should have walked away right then. If he had, things wouldn't have turned out the way they did. But at the same time, if he'd walked away...Inoue would probably be dead. [Post Arrancar Arc] Ishida makes a costly decision.

[Shannon]

^ Happy belated birthday, then! :D
And yay, a new chapter. ^-^

[Adam]

Welcome to czy and Alaena Night (happy birthday, though it's late).

I've been looking at the IchiRuki DotW list for some kind of topic to steal, but most of them don't apply to IshiOri very well. A chapter with these two together again would help a lot. When was the last time they've shared a panel, anyways?

As we know, Uryuu's mother hasn't been referred to ever.

Perhaps Ishida's mom died some tragic death, and that's why Ishida's dad is such a sourpuss. Ichigo and Ishida's dads would foil each other nicely, if this is the case.

As for Ishida possibly having an Oedipus Complex...uh, no.

[Sergelia]

*shivers at the thought* Well... I don't think even Orihime's sweetness would be enough to smooth Ryuuken's complexes out, but everything's possible. >__> it IS.
However, if her personality reminded him of the late ms. Ishida, then maybe he'd be even more against her and Uryuu's relationship. Maybe there's some unresolved stuff in the background, eh? Who knows, if he deep down cares for Uryuu's wellbeing, then he might not want him to take the same path as he himself did. And this sudden resemblance of his son's girlfriend and mother might bring some bad memories or such.

Oh, Adam, Japanese do like to play on the you-look-like-my-mother!Let's-get-married thing, I think. It's not Oedipus complex, it's more striving to be like one's own parents. In that sort of relationship, it's assumed the guy wants himself to be like his father...
...right?
Besides since I'm a huge fan of the idea that Ryuuken used to be a happy-go-lucky teenager, I can totally imagine him marrying an Orihime lookalike.
It'd be only fitting. We already have Rukia looking like Hisana and, arguably, Miyako; Ichigo is basically Kaien with orange hair and a frown; Uryuu and Ryuuken are really, really similar. If Kubo wants to keep his patterns in order, it's high time he pulled Orihime similarity out of his sleeve.

[yahoosoda]

Please sign me up for this FC!

I'm writing a pretty long 'essay' regarding the pairings I support in Bleach, namely Ichigo x Rukia and Ishida x Orihime.

[debbiechan]

yahoosoda
Please sign me up for this FC!

I'm writing a pretty long 'essay' regarding the pairings I support in Bleach, namely Ichigo x Rukia and Ishida x Orihime.

Welcome aboard! I'm really interested in this "essay"--where's it going to be posted. Remember to post a link here!
And yes, I do think the two pairings are intertwined--it's almost impossible not to talk about one without talking about the other. Orihime's feelings for Ichigo, Ishida's rivalry with Ichigo, Orihime's jealousy of Rukia, Ichigo's utter cluelessness about it all! :)


Sergelia
Oh, Adam, Japanese do like to play on the you-look-like-my-mother!Let's-get-married thing, I think. It's not Oedipus complex, it's more striving to be like one's own parents. In that sort of relationship, it's assumed the guy wants himself to be like his father...

Yeah, but the Japanese like to walk that incest line. So many of the comix relationships I've seen teeter on incest and mother-love. The Byakyuka-Rukia thing--nothing overt at all, but lots of passion, and c'mon, she looks exactly like his wife with whom he had marital relations.

Adam
When was the last time they've shared a panel, anyways?

These are their last panels:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/LastIshiHimePanel188.jpg

They're significant panels because previously Orihime was "accosted" by Shinji and everyone protested, even Keigo, but Ishida the one who would waste no time standing in between her and a lecherous Shinigami does nothing. Does he feel impotent to protect her? The very last panel of them together--look at the poor boy's miserable face and Orihime's hair in the foreground. I think she was his decision to agree to his father's proposal.

[Ileenka]

Colourbar. :)

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6200/ishioriwm5.jpg

[debbiechan]

Oh that's a really wonderful one! I love the scenes you've chosen!
I'm going to use this one right away!

Thank you, Justine.

[yahoosoda]

My brain is still a scattered mess but I am close to putting how I feel about my chosen pairings to words. Anyway this image kinda shows that. I apologize in advance if there are problems with the loading time due to the image.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/wuffyx/IchiRuki/moderato-flowersatmidnight.gif

To me Ishida is not the prince that Orihime is looking for. Honestly, I don't think Orihime needs a prince or a knight in shining armor. She needs someone who can ground her. It's okay to be flying off to space every so often but if that keeps you from growing it isn't ok, which is precisely how I feel about Orihime's character right now. In that image Ishida is neither a prince or a knight while Orihime is portrayed in a princess kind of light. But that character Ishida is being portrayed as, is needed for the princess to grow and bloom.

As for Ishida, he needs someone like Orihime to keep his spirits light. If it doesn't this young man will risk having his character turn into Ryuuken. Orihime is there to balance Ishida's personality.

These two characters are also in dire need of growth. They are flawed characters but I think together they can help each other.

I'm tempted to drag my views to IchiHime and IchiRuki here...but I won't. I found some nice pics for IshiHime, perhaps I'll make banners once again when I get the theme sorted out. Hehehe...still have to write that long essay regarding these couples.

And since I'm in my Transformers rave mode right now I'll post a song from the movie soundtrack which reminds me of some reason, Ishida talking to Orihime.

Before its too late
by Goo Goo Dolls


"Before It's Too Late"

I wonder through fiction to look for the truth
Buried beneath all the lies
and I stood at a distance
To feel who you are
Hiding myself in your eyes

and hold on before it's too late
Until we leave this behind
Don't fall just be who you are
It's all that we need in our lives

and the risk that might break you
Is the one that would save
A life you dont live is still lost
So stand on the edge with me
Hold back your fear and see
Nothing is real til it's gone

Hold on before its too late
Until we leave this behind
Don't fall just be who you are
It's all that we need in our lives

So live like you mean it
Love til you feel it
It's all that we need in our lives
So stand on the edge with me
Hold back your fear and see
Nothing is real til it's gone

Hold on before its too late
Until we leave this behind
Don't fall just be who you are
It's all that we need in our lives

Hold on before its too late
Until we leave this behind
Don't fall just be who you are
It's all that we need in our lives

It's all that we need in our lives
It's all that I need in my life

[Adam]

@Yahoosoda: Where’d you get that image?

To me Ishida is not the prince that Orihime is looking for. Honestly, I don't think Orihime needs a prince or a knight in shining armor. She needs someone who can ground her. It's okay to be flying off to space every so often but if that keeps you from growing it isn't ok, which is precisely how I feel about Orihime's character right now. In that image Ishida is neither a prince or a knight while Orihime is portrayed in a princess kind of light. But that character Ishida is being portrayed as, is needed for the princess to grow and bloom.

I agree with this. The “problem” is that Orihime believes she needs a knight in shining armor. Which is unfortunate since she gains strength as she gains resolve; she’ll never be very resolute if she keeps on waiting for someone else to save her bacon.

Maybe someday she’ll see things differently.

As for Ishida, he needs someone like Orihime to keep his spirits light. If it doesn't this young man will risk having his character turn into Ryuuken. Orihime is there to balance Ishida's personality.

Ah, he’s already lightened up considerably since he started chilling with Ichigo and co. Yet, I still agree with you about Orihime being capable of balancing his personality.

And since I'm in my Transformers rave mode right now I'll post a song from the movie soundtrack which reminds me of some reason, Ishida talking to Orihime.

Man, I'm still disappointed they never used the original Transformers theme song. Personally, I think it fits IshiHime pretty well.

Transformers
More than meets the eye

Autobots wage their Battle
To destroy the evil forces
Of the Decepticons

Transformers
Robots in Disguise
Transformers
More than meets the eye

Transformers

Both Ishida and Orihime pretend that they’re normal humans, but they’re really more than meets the eye; one is a Quincy, and the other is a, uh, something else. And Orihime’s feelings for Ichigo are the Decepticons (‘cause I’m biased), that Ishida (as an Autobot) is waging a war upon. Finally, Orihime’s fairies are the robots in disguise.

[Jaimie]

@Yahoosoda: Where’d you get that image?

It's from Moderato (http://moderato2.web.fc2.com/index.html), which also has a lot of Ichigo/Rukia and Shinji/Hiyori fanarts.

[debbiechan]

To me Ishida is not the prince that Orihime is looking for. Honestly, I don't think Orihime needs a prince or a knight in shining armor. She needs someone who can ground her.
....
As for Ishida, he needs someone like Orihime to keep his spirits light. If it doesn't this young man will risk having his character turn into Ryuuken. Orihime is there to balance Ishida's personality.

Oh so true that Orihime doesn't need a prince, even if that's exactly what he looks like, down to the Prince Charming belt, in this arc. I think the definining IshiHime moment will be an intimate moment--of confidences or sillinesses or both. Ishida and Orihime get along so well. Ichigo is the fantasy prince.

Ishida--oh the angst. Discounting the past and Souken and the legacy of genocide, we've got a loner here whose parent is a psychologically abusive iceberg who demands a lot from him and calls him a loser. The Quincy Pride stance seems like a defense against all those "you're stupid and worthless" comments that Ishida's garnered over the years

Orihime (the old Orihime, not the bug-eyed tragic figure of current chapters) would cheer anyone up, but in the SS arc--she made the boy smile.

I don't know if I would say Ishida needs much more character growth. His major conflict was taken care of in an early chapter. He found out that he was ashamed of himself for not running to help--and presumably die--when his grandfather was being attacked by Hollow. Ishida got over his misplaced hatred of Shinigami really quick.

Ishida's always seemed the most mature of the young leads to me. I don't think he's in any danger of becoming like his father because we've been shown Uryuu's kind heart time and time again (in fact, I think Daddy Ryuuken is not all he appears to be). In the current arc, Ishida's shown off his practicality and stategizing. He's working well with others (first Chad, then Renji) in ways he wouldn't have considered before when he was his more haughty self.

Ishida may still yet face another major conflict but I think it will be a small one in which he has to make a choice within a very short time-frame. One or two things need to be revealed to him (about his father's past? about his own feelings for Hime?) that will determine his behavior for the rest of the story.

Oh Orihime... I could, and I think many people have, written lengthy posts about why this girl needs to grow up, gain self-confidence, and acknowledge that part of herself that is Tsubaki (the non-healing force that can chop a Hollow in half). Orihime was at her best with Ishida in the SS arc--never more practical, still her whimsical self but more confident.

I would hate for Ishida to come sweeping in to rescue Hime and replace Ichigo as the Prince Fantasy. As much as Orihime needs to see him in a new light--she already has a friend, one who cares for her inordinately, and that will help her find herself.

[Sergelia]

Couldn't have said it better debbiechan. What I love about IshiHime and what made it my Orihime OTP (on the long run) is that, with Ishida, she's neither blushing nor stuttering, she's funny yet her brains don't disappear miraculously, she knocks out Shinigami with her karate skills and her powers at at their best but she's still the kind hearted Orihime she always was. What's not to love?
I strongly believe that those two are good for each other in a way no one else could be. They're smart, they sew, they don't have the mad fightfightfight impulses. Better yet, they just seemed so... happy... together, back in the SS arc. Orihime compared him to her oldest and best friend, Tatsuki, which is a drawback in the romance department but still makes it obvious that she feels totally comfortable around him. That's what makes this ship so golden and wonderful.

[yahoosoda]

@Adam

Yep its from Moderato. I visited the site thanks to the link in the IchiRuki FC. They have a very nice background photo of Ishida x Orihime right now.

Bleach is a unique anime since it offers character relationships that are deeper than the default shonen boy template meets shonen girl template. I'm sick of those kinds of anime and I stay away from them as much as I can. Perhaps I'm giving Kubo way too much credit but I'll hold my judgement when this whole HM arc is over...and frankly I can't wait for it to be over.

For me the integral part in any relationship is building on the strengths / weaknesses of each character. As cliche as it may sound, 'You complete me', is the most ideal kind of relationship that one can have. Once the fireworks inevitably end, what will sustain the relationship is character. And that's what I see between IchiRuki and IshiHime. The pairings tend to have the characters 'complete' each other. I'm not going to go in depth right now and once again, I'd like to offer my apologies from deviating away from IshiHime...but the best way I can explain what I mean by completing each other is to give IchiHime as an example.

I don't really hate Orihime but personally I do not think she has the strength nor the character to keep up with Ichigo. And I don't think Ichigo has the patience for her little trivialities. It does nothing to his character and Orihime in the end, IMHO, will be a crutch to him (regardless of her powers). This is the reason why I never subscribed to the whole IchiHime thing. It's not because I like Rukia or prefer IchiRuki, its more that I can possibly imagine those two characters actually having a decent relationship.

IchiRuki is well on its way in deepening the relationship and as many people from the IchiRuki FC has said, Ichigo himself has taken the first steps to these thing. You see the characters grow and mature with each other. You can see them complement each other as well. Rukia's current spike in her power is also complementary to what Ichigo is. I don't feel like citing parallelisms but they are definitely scattered throughout the series, even with the latest chapters.

IshiHime is a pairing that has potential. They may not be as advanced as IchiRuki since at this moment there was not enough chance given by to the two characters to progress their relationship. But Ishida has to take an initiative to step forward and Orihime has to stop acting like a princess in her tower, waiting for her knight in shining armor. These two have a long way to go but I think their characters complement each other well.

[yahoosoda]

The site is generally an IshiHime with lots of nice art

http://unie.s53.xrea.com/uwm/illust.html

And this one is a little funny. Ishi vs Ulqui!

http://unie.s53.xrea.com/uwm/c04b.html

[debbiechan]

The Ishi/Ulqui had me rolling on the floor. Arrancar wear looks very good on Ishida, doesn't it?

I suck at making banners, but I made one for Tanabata which starts tomorrow.
I will have a new IshiHime Tanabata story then, links to my previous Tanabata stories, and (maybe, maybe) an IchiRuki Tanabata story.

[Sora Chan]

Welcome aboard! I'm really interested in this "essay"--where's it going to be posted. Remember to post a link here!
And yes, I do think the two pairings are intertwined--it's almost impossible not to talk about one without talking about the other. Orihime's feelings for Ichigo, Ishida's rivalry with Ichigo, Orihime's jealousy of Rukia, Ichigo's utter cluelessness about it all! :)



Yeah, but the Japanese like to walk that incest line. So many of the comix relationships I've seen teeter on incest and mother-love. The Byakyuka-Rukia thing--nothing overt at all, but lots of passion, and c'mon, she looks exactly like his wife with whom he had marital relations.


These are their last panels:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/LastIshiHimePanel188.jpg

They're significant panels because previously Orihime was "accosted" by Shinji and everyone protested, even Keigo, but Ishida the one who would waste no time standing in between her and a lecherous Shinigami does nothing. Does he feel impotent to protect her? The very last panel of them together--look at the poor boy's miserable face and Orihime's hair in the foreground. I think she was his decision to agree to his father's proposal.

Ohh very interesting. I'm glad you pointed that out. I wouldn't have noticed. Maybe Ishida being unable to protect orihime did cause him to accept his dad's proposal.

By the way, the art you guys found was simply beautiful!
http://unie.s53.xrea.com/uwm/c01.html
Is she pregnant? :D
I love the lily pond one as well.

[debbiechan]

Ohh very interesting. I'm glad you pointed that out. I wouldn't have noticed. Maybe Ishida being unable to protect orihime did cause him to accept his dad's proposal.



I always love the pages where there's no dialogue. You have to work to read them. Kubo draws so well that expressions on his characters are often plain as day--it doesn't have to be a close-up either. That faraway Ishida in the third panel looks as miserable as hell.

[Yorleni]

i make a new colourings of a doujinshi ishihime xD (is ecchi/hentai but is sooo CUTE) and 3 icons


http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8079/13br0.png
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/8968/14ym2.png
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5641/14v1my9.png
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/67/23oz2.png
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8043/abrirjv6.png

ICONS ::

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7232/26652775ds2.png http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2410/87489360eg3.png http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4580/65761139jk5.png

[debbiechan]

oh that's adorable. I haven't seen that doujin. What's name and who does it?

[debbiechan]

Merry Tanabata, boys and girls, I come bearing fics:

http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/49730.html

There's a sparkly new one in there too. Wrote it this week.

[debbiechan]

By my wonderful friend Charlie:

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/188/5/9/Tanabata___07_by_HiddenGems.jpg

[debbiechan]

This time by my wonderful friend Chris:

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/IshiHime_Meet_across_the_stars_by_d.jpg

[Ileenka]

This time by my wonderful friend Chris:

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/IshiHime_Meet_across_the_stars_by_d.jpg

Wow! :eek: So beautiful, debbie! Your friend is talented! :inlove

So Tanabata, yo. :love

[debbiechan]

Chris is a huge IshiHime and IchiRuki fan. He's got Bleach all over his gallery--which is amazing.

http://dragonboy-mt.deviantart.com/

[Ametatsu]

uh, can I join this?

[debbiechan]

uh, can I join this?


Why of course, Ametatsu! I'll add you right away. Welcome!

I don't think it will be too long before we have an Ishida and Orihime reunion to talk about, but Ichigo's fight is going to take center-stage for a while.

[Adam]

Looking at Deb's current signature has got me thinking: Orihime hasn't really fulfilled the vow to she made to herself when she met Ichigo again too well (she just kinda stood around for a few chapters), but she seems to be gaining some of that strength now. So, maybe, in a sort of ironic twist, Orihime is going to be the person she wanted to be (strong-willed, self-reliant), or believe she's that person, by the time she next meets Ishida, instead. What do you peeps think?

[debbiechan]

Looking at Deb's current signature has got me thinking: Orihime hasn't really fulfilled the vow to she made to herself when she met Ichigo again too well (she just kinda stood around for a few chapters), but she seems to be gaining some of that strength now. So, maybe, in a sort of ironic twist, Orihime is going to be the person she wanted to be (strong-willed, self-reliant), or believe she's that person, by the time she next meets Ishida, instead. What do you peeps think?

As a huge Orihime fan, I've been waiting for her to fulfill those words in my sig. The character development is immanent in the plot. Orihime has no where to go but up.

Her recent hesitancy and fear during Ichigo's fight underlines how slight her relationship to Ichigo is; maybe Kubo wanted to show us that she cares for Ichigo in a fantasy way. You don't swear to love a person, all his flaws and good pts (in her farewill speech Orihime mentioned neither) and then doubt him. She was afraid of him; she wasn't afraid he'd turn Holllow. Never mind the flashback of her brother--that came later. And as you'll recall, Orihime wasn't frightened of her brother.

Orihime is at such a low point of self-esteem that she has trouble grasping the reality that her rescuers came for her. As a matter of fact, she didn't have faith in Ichigo that this what he came for (Grimmjow's tauntings or Ichigo's own behavior may have convinced her).

When she meets Ishida, I don't think there will be any hesitation or conflict on his part as to what his objective is. Ichigo ran back from the mission for Rukia, then stopped to fight with Ulqui and (not his fault) was sidelined by a hole in the chest. Then he willingly chose to fight Grimmjow and wanted a real match because he asked Hime to heal him. What was the girl supposed to think? He wants to fight more than he wants to save me. And she was probably perceiving the truth.

Ishida--can you imagine his getting distracted? Can you imagine him being anything but slanty-eyed and fierce looking and determined? When he is with Orihime, he brings out her better self. I have no doubt that better self will emerge when Hime is with Ishida.

The quote in my sig, though, also included a line before where Hime said something along the lines that she was weak and she always needed Kurosaki-kun to protect her. I believed (now I'm not so sure) that her great come-back would happen in front of Ichigo. It doesn't necessarily have to.

Ichigo has fulfilled his promise to Orihime (that the next time he would protect her) but Orihime's vow to herself is still hanging in the air.

I can't remember what else I was going to say--:) I blabbered a lot about Orihime's character at http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/
but I didn't look at how Ishida might help her "snapping out of it" like Nell did.
So far she hasn't done anything on her own--as well as convincing herself that Ichigo isn't a monster. I want her to do something for herself--even if that means not helped along by Ishida. But given Orihime's character, she may need a little push.

Everyone needs a little push every now and then; Ichigo needed a cheer of support to transform in the last panel of 283.

I'm wondering how much closer Orihime really does feel to Ishida--she did consider him a friend on a par with Tatsuki. That's close, wouldn't you say?

[debbiechan]

*bump*

I said something LAST WINTER that the IshiHime reunion would happen before Summer 07 was out. Here it is, July. When do you think they're going to see one another again?

[Adam]

Ishida--can you imagine his getting distracted? Can you imagine him being anything but slanty-eyed and fierce looking and determined? When he is with Orihime, he brings out her better self. I have no doubt that better self will emerge when Hime is with Ishida.

I agree, and I’ll add that the opposite is true. One of Ishida’s more heroic moments, when he used his body as a shield for Orihime (it turned out he wasn’t needed, but it’s the thought that counts), wouldn’t have happened without her.

I'm wondering how much closer Orihime really does feel to Ishida--she did consider him a friend on a par with Tatsuki. That's close, wouldn't you say?

A part of me wishes that this guarantees a romantic/sexual relationship between Ishida and Orihime.

Joking aside, I believe Orihime has her deepest relationship in the series with Tatsuki (poor Ishida), so I would say that's pretty close. Unfortunately, Orihime seems to have forgotten her deep with her childhood friend. Hopefully, this is a parallel between Tatsuki and Ishida, and Orihime’s just experiencing another memory lapse with Ishida.

I said something LAST WINTER that the IshiHime reunion would happen before Summer 07 was out. Here it is, July. When do you think they're going to see one another again?

Summer’s not over yet. Since the two are in fairly close proximity now, a reunion could pretty much happen at any time. I’ll say they’ll have a reunion around September 3 because that’s Orihime’s birthday. What could be a better present for her than Ishida?

[debbiechan]

I just realized. Orihime turns SEVENTEEN very soon. The Bleach kids are growing up. OMG, they're going to start drinking and smoking pot and having sex!

[Ileenka]

TANABATA!!! :yell :yell


http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3835/0099vl9.png

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7720/0032fq9.png

[debbiechan]

TANABATA!!! :yell :yell


is dead from the cuteness!!!!!!

Hey, I think Tanabata works with Rain boy and Princess girl too.:) In any event , it's a festival for lovers, and that's what Ishi and Hime will eventually be!

[Ileenka]

Rain boy. :rotflmao :rotflmao

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/316/b3fj8.jpg

[Griffith]

I will join. Ishida is made of win! Thus makes this pairing uber lol.

[Ileenka]

Welcome :yay

[debbiechan]

Rain boy. :rotflmao :rotflmao


That's better than "bow and arrow boy" which is what I usually call him. :D

Oh these pics are all great! *saves, saves, saves

[Ileenka]

He should be called HANDSOME QUINCY BOY. Period.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3339/ishiori28beb5.jpg

MORE TANABATA! :yell

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6922/ishiori30akj6.jpg


From Bypass (http://bypass.xxxxxxxx.jp/). They have new arts.

[Adam]

That's better than "bow and arrow boy" which is what I usually call him. :D

"Bow and arrow boy" is better than "four eyes" which is how I think of him.

Since Orihime's birthday is coming up (September 3), does anyone else feel like doing some kind of Ishdia x Orihime thing to celebrate it (kind of like what the IchiRuki Fan Club just did for Ichigo)? I've got the creative buzz going on right now.

[Griffith]

Ishida deserves to be called "The White Knight"

my former sig: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6615/ishidauryuurenderedzz3.png

[debbiechan]

Oh, I love that picture by Orin. It's just a detail of a larger pic :

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53909448/

I'm crazy about Orin's style. She drew a (yaoi) pic for me recently that I look at every day.

As to Adam's Hime birthday suggestion: "YEAH!" Sounds good. I was actually waiting for some IshiHime interaction to announce some sort of contest, but Hime's birthday is really a good idea (Kubo has always made a nod to Ishida on Ishida's birthday but to tell the truth, I haven't seen how he's handled Hime for the past 3 yrs)

Categories: Fiction, Art, AMV, and what else? Sig graphics/icons.

I have only two things I can give away as prizes. I would need two more if we're going to have four categories (I have a IshiHime doujin to give away and a pair of IshiHime keychains).

Voting for the winners is only fair.
EDIT: or do most of you prefer a free-for-all contributions without competitions thing. (that's how I homeschool ^^)

Any ideas what to call the contest? My oh my, our girl is turning 17.

[Adam]

Voting for the winners is only fair.
EDIT: or do most of you prefer a free-for-all contributions without competitions thing. (that's how I homeschool ^^)

I like competitions; they're the stuff grudges are made of. Also, giving a prize to a winner of some type of competition may get more participants.

Any ideas what to call the contest? My oh my, our girl is turning 17.

Dunno. "Quincy Archer Loves You," "Rain for your birthday isn't so bad?"

[AnimeGirlPan]

May i join?

[debbiechan]

May i join?

You're in, Anime Girl Pan! Welcome Aboard! Why do you like Ishida and Orihime?
I'm going to ask that question of everyone, I suppose.

I like them because their interactions during SS were adorable and then so poignant and by the time Ishida said "I'm glad Inoue-san isn't here to see this" before he shot his arrow at Mayuri, I knew Ishida was into the girl, whether he knew it or not. And Ishida deserves what he wants.

I was an Orihime fan before I was an Ishida fan. She was so damn cute. Of course it wasn't too long later that Ishida threw that plushie into the air to sew and I loved him too. I didn't love them together until much later.

[Sergelia]

I love IshiOri because they just... work so well together. They are two fairly mortal teenagers with no one around to love them - their family either dead or too cold to care - that handle their loneliness in two totally different ways. Ishida tries to act cool and set himself apart from everyone else, Orihime tries to forget about it and puts on a smiling mask to hide it. But I like to believe both paths lead to the same point. ^__^ Isn't it telling how their best qualities, not as heroes but as persons, get showcased the most when they're together? Isn't their combined dorkiness just endearing? xD Really, the two of them are the sweetest thing ever.
I hate, I hate it so much that Orihime is so depressed and resolveless right now. I hated it how Ishida felt useless when he lost his powers, too. He's being so heroic and focused in HM arc, that I cannot help but cheer for him with all my heart in the "Go Uryuu, get your woman!1" fashion. Ahh.

Finally, I like IshiOri because I adore how two people can look at life from standpoints so different and yet work so well together. I just love them. <3

[Jaimie]

He should be called HANDSOME QUINCY BOY. Period.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3339/ishiori28beb5.jpg

MORE TANABATA! :yell

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6922/ishiori30akj6.jpg


From Bypass (http://bypass.xxxxxxxx.jp/). They have new arts.

Thank you for sharing, Justine! :hug I absolutely adore the second picture.

And I'm going slightly off-topic here, but am I the only one who is reminded of Nomiya/Ayumi from Honey & Clover when I think of IshiHime? (Except, I didn't care much for Nomiya or that pairing. Nomiya fangirls please don't jump me. :p) Both Orihime and Ayumi (who even look alike) are encompassed by an intense, unrequited love. Both have other men in their lives (Ishida and Nomiya) who pay more attention and care to them than said unrequited love. And both of those men have been described as being similar to the unrequited love. There are, of course, many differences between the characters and the relationships, but it still makes me go "Wow..." everytime I think about it. Haha.

Why do I like IshiHime? Because of the mutual respect, trust, and comfort between them, which is most prominently visible during the SS arc. I believe they are ideal for each other, not only because of their personalities but also because of the way KT has set it up.

I think they make and influence each other to be healthier and happier. When Ishida is around Orihime, he actually cares about something other than pride (and though I'm sure there are other things, he never lets on). He stutters. He turns dorky. He smiles. He loosens up and acts like a real teenage boy instead of the strict, uptight Quincy with the pride of his clan on his shoulders. And he makes a great partner to Orihime, one who pays attention to and understands her. Orihime has been focusing all her attention elsewhere, so she may not have noticed, but the readers do. Ishida was there beside her when she stood trembling in worry for Ichigo while he fought Byakuya. Ishida was there to save her everytime she was in danger during the SS arc.

Not to mention those key hints in the manga that seem to say, "Yes, they are right together and here's why." Ishida has never failed to save her. / Orihime mistook him for Tatsuki, who is arguably her closest friend. / They are both in the sewing club (and we all know what sewing refers to). / And several other instances that I'm sure other people will remember. Were these dropped into the story by accident? I, like Debbie, think Kubo is way too precise and clever of an artist to look over these things. He never forgets about a stitch that he's dropped, and each one is important to the tapestry of Bleach (and oh, isn't it funny that Kubo thinks he's most like Ishida? maybe it's just me).

Sadly, it's been a long, long time since Kubo has touched upon this particular relationship. :( My mind tries to reason that there's a purpose for this, and that it's to make their next meeting that much more amazing, as things usually turn out in Bleach when Kubo leaves them hanging in the dark for long stretches of time like this.

(As a sidenote, I think that IshiHime fits the Tanabata myth. But there are certain people who get offended if you apply it to pairings other than their own, so I won't even go there... even though what fits, fits, regardless of names. :p But wait -- Orihime is in IshiHime, so what am I talking about? Haha.)


And now I will go back to lurking. :yay

[debbiechan]

Thank you for sharing, Justine! :hug I absolutely adore the second picture.

The art on Bypass is so good---so simple, so IshiHime, so good.

And I'm going slightly off-topic here, but am I the only one who is reminded of Nomiya/Ayumi from Honey & Clover when I think of IshiHime?

I DO ! I only saw the anime at last because Kubo said he liked it and then I read the manga (well,people had been pushing me to see the anime), and it was so good. The unrequited love thing hit me right between the forehead--one doesn't even have to struggle to see Orihime in Ayumi. She looks like Hime. The part about cutting off the plant before it dies made me cry... well, the whole damn thing made me cry.


They are both in the sewing club (and we all know what sewing refers to).

*is innocent* What does sewing refer to? Tanabata? Or some strange sexual position? :D

And several other instances that I'm sure other people will remember. Were these dropped into the story by accident? I, like Debbie, think Kubo is way too precise and clever of an artist to look over these things. He never forgets about a stitch that he's dropped, and each one is important to the tapestry of Bleach (and oh, isn't it funny that Kubo thinks he's most like Ishida? maybe it's just me).


I'm so dumb. For an IshiHime fan who was always going around insisting KUBO NEVER DROPS A STITCH, the analogy didn't occur to me. It's really fitting.


to Sergelia: I'll answer your post tomorrow--there were some really strong points there that I wanted to roll with. But I'm going to sleep now--maybe tomorrow we'll know Grimmjow's fate.

[Adam]

Man, why do I like Ishida x Orihime? I hadn’t really thought about that, and it seems like the “cool� thing to do right now. At the moment, I like it because I want Orihime to start smiling again and believe that Ishida can help her out there. Furthermore, seeing dorks get the girl always gives me hope. Next, the relationship is one where each side complements the other, which a bunch of people mentioned already. Plus, it’s full of subtext (and it‘s great if hints just fly over my head).

And I'm going slightly off-topic here, but am I the only one who is reminded of Nomiya/Ayumi from Honey & Clover when I think of IshiHime?

I think Jasse mentioned something like this at Bleach Forums (and Deb just said she was reminded, too). Personally, I haven't read [i]Honey & Clover[i] so I'm not reminded of it.

We all know what sewing refers to.

I don’t if it refers to something other than using a needle and thread to repair material.

Isn't it funny that Kubo thinks he's most like Ishida? maybe it's just me

Isn't it funnier that Orihime also appears to be his ideal woman (one with large breasts)? So, if Kubo goes for gratuitous self-gratification, Ishida x Orihime is the most likely to benefit. And wouldn't that make a great slogan?

"Ishida x Orihime, Kubo's Source for Self-Gratification"

My mind tries to reason that there's a purpose for this, and that it's to make their next meeting that much more amazing, as things usually turn out in Bleach when Kubo leaves them hanging in the dark for long stretches of time like this.

My reasoning is that Kubo started downplaying it to hide the power of the relationship and keep Orihime as a rival/obstacle for IchiRuki.

[debbiechan]

Isn't it funnier that Orihime also appears to be his ideal woman (one with large breasts)? So, if Kubo goes for gratuitous self-gratification, Ishida x Orihime is the most likely to benefit. And wouldn't that make a great slogan?

"Ishida x Orihime, Kubo's Source for Self-Gratification"

My new signature!

Honestly, that could be the subtitle for the Quincy Archer Loves You contest

My reasoning is that Kubo started downplaying it to hide the power of the relationship and keep Orihime as a rival/obstacle for IchiRuki.

I thought of that. But geez, it's been a long time. Kubo is probably going to taunt readers some more before we see the inevitable dramatic IchiRuki reunion and I think maybe some IshiHime action may precede that.

I drew a picture. Give me a break because I'm out of practice and trying new stuff:

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs18/i/2007/199/7/6/He_Makes_Her_Happy_by_debbiechan.png

[Alaena Night]

Aww, such a cute pic, Debbiechan! ^^ I like Orihime's expression.

Ah... anyway... *randomness* I posted a new IshiHime fic. This one is insane and extremely randoom, though.

I've been advised to try something a little different in my writing, sooo... I did. ^^ This one centers around the question, "What would Orihime's reaction be if Ishida impulsively kissed her?"

Story Link: Funny Love (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3665891/1/Funny_Love)
Summary: [IshiHime] Suddenly, it sunk in. He was... kissing her. Kissing Orihime. Inoue–san. The girl he went to school with. The one who loved Kurosaki. Kissing. Ishida gulped. Yeah, he was definitely going to hell for this. [Oneshot]

[Adam]

@ Debbie: I'm not a really a fan of digital art, but I am a fan of people posting their own fanart. For that, it gets my approval.

I've been advised to try something a little different in my writing, sooo... I did. ^^ This one centers around the question, "What would Orihime's reaction be if Ishida impulsively kissed her?"

I thought that Orihime acted a bit unusual towards the end. Wasn't she supposed to still be in love with Ichigo when that kiss happened? Or did her interest in him fade away without Ishida (or us readers) knowing about it? Prose was good, regardless.

How about asking that question here? What would Orihime's reaction be if Ishida impulsively kissed her?

[Sergelia]

Umm, I liked the fic but thought Orihime acted really strange after the kiss. Might just be me though.

@Adam - Haha, interesting one. I think she'd blush incredibly, stutter, then run away. Then we'd see her sitting on the floor hugging her knees (her back pressed to her entrance door - you know, the famous anime pose called "what should I do?") wondering "why... why is my heart... beating so fast... *trails on* Ishida-kun surely... cannot like me, can he?" and other denial stuff so typical to shojo characters such as Orihime.

Then, much later on, we'd see Ishida standing alone thinking about how could've he been so stupid and that he'd blown everything, when Orihime shows up. He apologizes, she rejects his apology and jumps to kiss him. ^__^ And everything is verrrrrrry nice and shojo, the way it should be with mushy romances.

Well that brought back painful memories. >__>

[debbiechan]

@ Debbie: I'm not a really a fan of digital art, but I am a fan of people posting their own fanart. For that, it gets my approval.


haha, I'm the opposite. I've been doing digital for 2 yrs now and I admire those who have the technique and anime styles down. It's so all not as easy as it looks.


How about asking that question here? What would Orihime's reaction be if Ishida impulsively kissed her?

She's a warm and sensitive girl with hormones about to pour out of her ears. I think she'd kiss him back. And knock him over and kiss a whole bunch more. :D

I think that this scenario could happen even during her obsessive love with Ichigo--nothing like the reality of physical proximity to make a person forget fantasy. I always write it this way.

I think Orihime may kiss Ishida first, though. He's so damn shy, and when she realizes what's what and gives up on Ichigo, I think she'll finally be able to finish a kiss (unlike that goodbye scene with Ichigo).

[Sergelia]

Yeah, there's just something about Orihime kissing Ishida first that seems so... possible, her Kurosakiobsession and all. If Ishida'd gotten around to trying to tell her how he feels and started stuttering, I feel Orihime's first impulse would be to kiss him, if nothing then to give him a "Don't-worry-Ishidakun-you're-not-making-a-fool-of-yourself" mind message.

[Adam]

Answering my own question (stolen from Alaena Night, who possibly stole it from someone else), I think Ichigo would be a "problem." Orihime seems to have settled on loving Ichigo as one of her defining characteristics (to the point that she believed it would be a consistent aspect of herself in five different lifetimes), and I believe she would need some time to open the door to other possibilities. Though, I have conviction that Ishida kissing her could force that door open.

So, yeah, then Orihime gets angsty for awhile because she secretly liked the kiss and feels like she’s betraying “Kurosaki-kun,� but that’s when Ishida smacks another wet one on her. Now, Orihime might be able to resist one kiss from the Quincy, but two is just too much. And, just to be sure that she likes Ishida, I think Orihime would need to kiss him herself.

...Then they make babies.

Oh, and if Orihime loses interest in Ichigo without Ishida playing a part in it, I think she could react to a kiss from Ishida like she does in Alaena’s story (or in Deb’s active imagination).

haha, I'm the opposite. I've been doing digital for 2 yrs now and I admire those who have the technique and anime styles down. It's so all not as easy as it looks.

Yeah, I know. Like any good art, in my opinion, good digital art takes time, effort, and skill from many hours of practise. But, as all the drawings I do are done using traditional techniques, I have a greater appreciation for art of similar nature.

Sweet, I've turned this into the geeky art corner. I should draw something.

She's a warm and sensitive girl with hormones about to pour out of her ears. I think she'd kiss him back. And knock him over and kiss a whole bunch more. :D

Are you sure you're not just saying what you would like to do in that situation?

[blueberry]

i hate orihime(sorry! no offense!) , but i love this pairing. Can I join? please?

[debbiechan]

Originally Posted by debbiechan
She's a warm and sensitive girl with hormones about to pour out of her ears. I think she'd kiss him back. And knock him over and kiss a whole bunch more.

Are you sure you're not just saying what you would like to do in that situation?

Haha. Most fannishness is fantasy projection, but the Orihime I know from pre-HM is an impulsive, loving girl. She's only ever shy around Kurosaki-kun.
I do think that Orihime's letting go of Ichigo will have to take place without Ishida's influence--otherwise it sort of cheapens Orihime. And I think that Kubo would like to raise her up after all her grief in HM. She selflessly realizes Ichigo & Rukia belong together and then to the relief of everyone who was going "NOTICE HIM, NOTICE HIM!" she'll suddenly notice Ishida. In such a scenario, I think there would be lots of kissing portrayed--otherwise the IshiHime thing is friendship. Which it is, at the moment. Compatible friendship with arguably romantic thoughts (and pervy late night preoccupations?) on Ishida's part.

The moment Orihime entered Ichigo's room and blushed because she'd never been in it before made me think she's neck deep in teenage hormones now--esp contrasted with her pre-SS self. She's such a warm and expressive girl, I do think she'd be a funnily assertive girlfriend.:D

@blueberry--YOU'RE IN! Welcome, and feel free to talk about IshiHime. Why you like it, etc.

[yahoosoda]

In the IchiRuki FC, I posted something regarding Zangestu and Shirayuki. Suprisingly, enough the same design principle in characters appear in IshiHime! I saw the pic below in one of Yorleni's posts. Makes you wonder what Kubo is trying to imply ;)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5586/bleachkp1.png

[kiri]

i love ishida and inoue i think they made a good couple I want to join this fc

[debbiechan]

In the IchiRuki FC, I posted something regarding Zangestu and Shirayuki. Suprisingly, enough the same design principle in characters appear in IshiHime! I saw the pic below in one of Yorleni's posts. Makes you wonder what Kubo is trying to imply ;)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5586/bleachkp1.png

Haha, yes. It's a nice coincidence. I've heard people discount it on the basis that five spokes do not equal six petals and Ishida's current bow (8 spokes?) doesn't either.

I mentioned this sacred objects connection in some story but I'll be *&&^ if I remember which because I write so many *&^% IshiHimes. But dragonboy-mt made a painting for me I have on my website:

http://www.debbiechan.com/images/15hugs_masterpiece.jpg

@kiri--you're so in. WELCOME! Grab a chair. We have marshmellows.

[blueberry]

thank you debbiechan! I like orihime's attitude when she's with ishida. The will realy make a good couple. :D

[debbiechan]

I was just thinking--Adam mentioned in another thread that the way he really thought IshiHime would end up in the manga was with a strong implication of the couple-to-come. I've thought this all along--as much as I would like there to be funny, tripping over themselves, adorable kissing.

What do the rest of you think?

I see Ishida's arm on Orihime's shoulder in the last panel of them together.....

[Sergelia]

I see your sig. Multiply that by two, and there goes my vision of a possible IshiHime ending.

[Ileenka]

I have to sleep >_>;;

But I can't stay away @.@

Wallpaper by hime-roronoa

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7362/minitokyoanimewallpaperwt6.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=minitokyoanimewallpaperwt6.jpg)

[Caboose]

OOOOh! Oooh! *raises hand* Pick me! Pick me! *clears throat* I would like to be a part of this wonderful club to Ishida-the-human-sewing-machine and Orihime-the-hazardous-cook because their interactions are-

Aw screw it, just let me join I shall shut up. :p

I shall try my best to contribute...but I'm mostly better with words. ><

[EDIT] Lovely wally Ileenka! *steals* <3 MWAHAHA!

- caboose

[debbiechan]

oHHHH Ileenka, thank you so much! I have a new wallpaper--yey!

Caboose, you're in! The IshiHime love is spreading bit by bit--let's just see how it explodes after their next interaction in the manga (soon).

[Caboose]

@ debbie-chan: Thankies a bunch, you sure know how to make a girl feel loved. XD

Speaking of IshiHime love...when's KT going to show some more of this? Last time was in the SS Arc...so...long...ago...! >< This fandom needs to GROW. Tch. Mainly because of UlqHime going ons in the recent chapters...*sigh*

*prays* KT...show us some IshiHime LURV! :cool:

- caboose

[Adam]

Welcome to blueberry; good to see you here, too. Welcome to kiri; I like your username because it's the name of a song I like. Welcome to Caboose; I hope you don't live up to your username and become the end of the IshiHime train (I'm not worried this will be the case.)

@ Yahoosoda: Nice eyes, once again. Interesting that Orihime (five lifetimes of love) has six spokes (maybe a sign she should go for the sixth), while Ishida has five (perhaps he’s worth five, too). I’m sure it’s not Kubo calling Ishida a monocotyledon and Orihime a dicotyledon.

I was just thinking--Adam mentioned in another thread that the way he really thought IshiOri would end up in the manga was with a strong implication of the couple-to-come. I've thought this all along--as much as I would like there to be funny, tripping over themselves, adorable kissing.

Ah, I'm still disappointed that nobody tried to counter any of the points I brought up in that thread.

Luckily, I didn't say why I thought Ishida x Orihime would end with implications. For one, hardcore romance (I'm not talking about porn) tends to happen in peaceful times, and I doubt Bleach is going to linger around long after things are all happy and flowery. Consequently, I think an implied pairing may be more fitting, credible, and consistent with the series.

Another reason I believe this could happen is the potential Ichigo problem; just peeling Orihime's heart off Ichigo is going to take some serious development, and then there’s the possible problem of Ishida needing to be convinced that Orhime actually likes him instead of Ichigo. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kubo just avoids some of these issues, altogether. Bleach is a shounen (despite Kubo being a Shoujo Man), and romantic dilemmas IshiOri may face will likely take a backseat to action and the main pairing (assuming it’s IchiRuki).

[debbiechan]

I didn't say why I thought Ishida x Orihime would end with implications. For one, hardcore romance (I'm not talking about porn) tends to happen in peaceful times, and I doubt Bleach is going to linger around long after things are all happy and flowery. Consequently, I think an implied pairing may be more fitting, credible, and consistent with the series.

I think the implied pairing thing is nice. Ishida, who was always there for Orihime before, will be there again--when she's ready. We may see a twinge of new interest in her eyes. She could see him in a new light and that's as far as it goes.


Another reason I believe this could happen is the potential Ichigo problem; just peeling Orihime's heart off Ichigo is going to take some serious development

For some reason (women's intuition?) I don't really think that this heart pulling will be a problem. I think that when Orihime realizes that Ichigo belongs with Rukia, she'll let go in that typical loving Hime way and be happy for them.

There's also the possibility that Bleach could go on for a very long time--another 5 years isn't out of the question, considering the stamina and staying power of Dragonball and One Piece and others. There may be a Hell arc. Who knows--plenty of time for tables to turn and for attachments to be made (it would be interesting if a la Ross and Rachel, Orihime starts to be extra fond of Ishida just as he's starting to get over her and look away)


Bleach is a shounen (despite Kubo being a Shoujo Man), and romantic dilemmas IshiOri may face will likely take a backseat to action and the main pairing (assuming it’s IchiRuki).

I have no doubt that any and all romance will take a back seat to action and the drama of secrets revealed (Kubo has what--about 20 major questions left unanswered).

Buuuut, if there's a flash forward, which isn't unheard of in shounen, we may get a scene with a lot of Quincy babies. For me (I don't know about anyone else), the issue of whether the Quincy die out with Uryuu is a big one. "The Last Quincy" line seems to have been repeated by Kubo enough to make me think he's going to stand the phrase on its head (and let the Quincy babies fall out).

Imagine archer/healer babies.

[Sapphire Star]

lol I agree. Well said. And also....may I join this FC? I love this pairing to death. ^^

[debbiechan]

lol I agree. Well said. And also....may I join this FC? I love this pairing to death. ^^


*tosses marshmellows* Our motto here (see banner Syn made for the FC) is "A Little Sugar is Good for You." This is a sweet pairing, and I'm glad you've joined us! Welcome! I"m adding you right away.

[Sapphire Star]

YAY! *dances with happiness again* http://bleachexile.com/exec/images/emoticons/th_yayzorz.gifEver since that ine scene in the ss arc I'm been rooting for this pair. ^^

And go sugar! Can't go wrong with sugar. xD

[Sergelia]

Don't we all? Haha, welcome! ^__^ Mooooore members. Mooooore members, you hear that Kubo? Now give us IshiHime! We demand it! >__<

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Bleach is a shounen (despite Kubo being a Shoujo Man), and romantic dilemmas IshiOri may face will likely take a backseat to action and the main pairing (assuming it’s IchiRuki).
Agreed. That's why I thought after Bleach's ending there might be some sort of Kubo-approved doujinshis, dealing with relationships and such, as well as the future of minor characters (say, Hanatarou, the Kurosaki sisters, such). You know, the stuff that won't fit into the official storyline. It isn't unheard of...
For one, hardcore romance (I'm not talking about porn) tends to happen in peaceful times, and I doubt Bleach is going to linger around long after things are all happy and flowery. Consequently, I think an implied pairing may be more fitting, credible, and consistent with the series. Agreed on that one as well. I've always supported the theory in which we get maybe one chapter to see all of them off - I'm talking of course about the Great Five (Ichigo, Rukia, Orihime, Ishida, Chad) + Renji. But certainly it won't focus on romance alone; Bleach is not made for preteen girls (fortunately! If it was, IchiOri would very well be canon by chapter 2), we won't have much fluff to spare.

[Sapphire Star]

Hmm...this is an awesome IshiHime vid if you all are interested. ^^
Wait For You (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_v0vWkZnhH4)

[debbiechan]

Bleach is not made for preteen girls (fortunately! If it was, IchiOri would very well be canon by chapter 2), we won't have much fluff to spare.

That's an interesting point. I've read that a large portion of Bleach's readership is Japanese women in their early twenties. They have Josei expectations, and I don't think Kubo will disappoint.

One would think that the pre-teens in Japan would love IchiOri, but in the last poll, IchiOri ranked waaaay down. It's unpopular in Japan across age groups, it seems.

Ishida and Orihime seem to ride high in polls, always in the top 10 het pairings--and this for a couple that has not interacted for over 100 chapters. Their interaction made that much of an impression. Also, their interaction (and Ishida's growing affection for Orihime) was made so much of in the manga that the story begs for resolution... and soon.

[Sapphire Star]

That's very true. it was their interaction in the ss arc that got me rooting for this paring to tell the truth. ^^

[Sergelia]

One would think that the pre-teens in Japan would love IchiOri, but in the last poll, IchiOri ranked waaaay down. It's unpopular in Japan across age groups, it seems.

Actually I wasn't talking about its popularity withing the said age-gender group, really. It's just that it seems to comform to the stereotype of an ideal preteen-girl pairing. It's so fun actually - now that I look back through time, the first shojo I've read had a pairing almost IDENTICAL to IchiOri, and it was canon. It seemed the guy was just really, really attracted to pretty girls running after him shouting "AOYAMA-KUN! aoyama -kun.... Aoyama.... kun.... AoYAMA-KuN!" and such.
>__>
See, Ichigo's high standards are the only thing standing between us and shojo!Doom.

I've faith in IshiHime. Unlike many other Orihime pairings, it actually goes better with a strong, matured Orihime, who has faith in her own capabilities. Might be because Uryuu recognizes those characteristics in her.

[Sapphire Star]

I've faith in IshiHime. Unlike many other Orihime pairings, it actually goes better with a strong, matured Orihime, who has faith in her own capabilities. Might be because Uryuu recognizes those characteristics in her.


I agree. I think Ishida does.....and Orihime has been gaining more confidence and such lately which is a good thing....

[debbiechan]

>__>
See, Ichigo's high standards are the only thing standing between us and shojo!Doom.


LOL. Good point. I always knew there was something I liked about that boy, even though I tend to appreciate side-characters more than the hero.

Ishida, interestingly, may be one of those high-character self-sacrificing types who would never imagine Hime liking him--or who would never take advantage of a post-Ichigo crisis girl. That's why I think Orihime has to make the first move and surprise him. For him to do so would be almost OOC (Ishida giving into his baser nature! Never! He's Mr. Self Control!)

As for Shoujo!Doom, one of the most reassuring things about Bleach is that Kubo doesn't write fairy tales. I don't expect reunions with dead parents and such and the end of the manga; I totally expect GinRan to be tragic; I don't expect the redemption of any Arrancar, and I don't expect IchiOri,

But now that I think of it--IshiHime is close to fairy-tale. With Hime, anything would have to be. But Ishida is a real prince, not a concocted fantasy. I hope his Quincy duds aren't too ruined by the time he sees Orihime--so their white prince and princess clothes can match!

[Adam]

@ Sapphire Star: Welcome to the Fan Club.

There's also the possibility that Bleach could go on for a very long time--another 5 years isn't out of the question, considering the stamina and staying power of Dragonball and One Piece and others. There may be a Hell arc. Who knows--plenty of time for tables to turn and for attachments to be made (it would be interesting if a la Ross and Rachel, Orihime starts to be extra fond of Ishida just as he's starting to get over her and look away)

Yeah, I never underestimate the shounen power to drag things on way too much (Dragonball, Inuyasha, One Piece). Yet, what if Orihime still likes Ichigo even four years from now?

"The Last Quincy" line seems to have been repeated by Kubo enough to make me think he's going to stand the phrase on its head (and let the Quincy babies fall out)

Since his dad also seems to be "The Last Quincy," the title has already lost its impact on me. I could easily see Ishida being the first of the new Quincy (ones that chill with Shinigami and stuff).

One would think that the pre-teens in Japan would love IchiOri, but in the last poll, IchiOri ranked waaaay down. It's unpopular in Japan across age groups, it seems.

Yeah. They all love Hitsugaya.

See, Ichigo's high standards are the only thing standing between us and shojo!Doom.

High standards? I’d attribute it more to Ichigo’s Main Shounen Character ability to ignore the appeals of the opposite sex.

Hopefully, Ishida is enough of a main character to have that ability, since it’s helped Ichigo notice quite a fine lady.

[Sergelia]

Ishida is... :cry
I wanted him to be the first to reach Hime... just like Ichigo was the first to reach Rukia...

...

Wait. Who was the first to reach Rukia again, un?

Hanatarou and Ganju.

Haha. We win. Ichigo is Orihime's Hanatarou, which isn't to say Rukia-hime was up to some HanRuki lovin' ( disturbance-no-jutsu much, Sergelia?!!), but still you get it (wait, does that make Nell Ganju?!). The REAL hero is coming, Hime. Hold on tight and don't let go - your white-clad prince is commmmming to fetch youuuuu 1. :inlove

(both of them, actually. Ulquiorra and Ishida should have that mutual understanding thing going on for them. Both are white as if Bleach'd, both suffer UST from being around Orihime too much, and they are overall similar. WHO WILL WIN?)

Anyway. I vote Ishida's up next. He should go to Hime, while Renji goes for Rukia. Those two have priorities, you see. *nods peacefully*

High standards? I’d attribute it more to Ichigo’s Main Shounen Character ability to ignore the appeals of the opposite sex.
Well, there's that too, I suppose... like Hinata-->Naruto. But I like to think Ichigo's intelligence beats that of his fellow shounen main characters. I think he knows Orihime likes him, I mean it's been as obvious as coconut pie up to this point.

[Sapphire Star]

Yes I'm waiting ( and HOPING) for when Ishida will appear for hime.

And yes they will match in all their white glory! XDDDD

[Caboose]

I know this is sorta delayed but...*waves* Hey blueberry and kiri! :p

Welcome to Caboose; I hope you don't live up to your username and become the end of the IshiHime train (I'm not worried this will be the case.)

NEVER! I'd rather proclaim my love for bagels and hot sauce! >.> Random...! Caboose is one of the lovable characters of RedvsBlue. XP

@Yahoosoda: Nice eyes, once again. Interesting that Orihime (five lifetimes of love) has six spokes (maybe a sign she should go for the sixth), while Ishida has five (perhaps he’s worth five, too). I’m sure it’s not Kubo calling Ishida a monocotyledon and Orihime a dicotyledon.

That's an interesting point you got there...the symbolism of Ishida's new weapon and Orihime's...my canon-senses are tingling~

Luckily, I didn't say why I thought Ishida x Orihime would end with implications. For one, hardcore romance (I'm not talking about porn) tends to happen in peaceful times, and I doubt Bleach is going to linger around long after things are all happy and flowery. Consequently, I think an implied pairing may be more fitting, credible, and consistent with the series.

Another reason I believe this could happen is the potential Ichigo problem; just peeling Orihime's heart off Ichigo is going to take some serious development, and then there’s the possible problem of Ishida needing to be convinced that Orhime actually likes him instead of Ichigo. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kubo just avoids some of these issues, altogether. Bleach is a shounen (despite Kubo being a Shoujo Man), and romantic dilemmas IshiOri may face will likely take a backseat to action and the main pairing (assuming it’s IchiRuki).

Actually, I don't think IshiOri will be THAT much of a problem. Orihime already knows she doesn't have a chance with Ichigo, it's only a matter of time until she gives up her affection. I see Orihime's affection towards Ichigo is just a phase...for some reason. I don't know, it doesn't seem concrete enough, unlike IchiRuki. It's more of a highschool crush to me.

Also, Ishida doesn't seem the type to back down easily (as demonstrated in numerous battles) so he certainly wouldn't be deterred in winning Orihime's affection. Like I said, it's only a matter of time and Kubo Tite. He's a smart man and an awesome writer...he'll think up of something to get IshiOri through hardships. I'm pretty sure he's got the whole thing tied up as we SPEAK. I mean, about Orihime wanting her "knight in shining armor"? Hello! Uryuu Ishida, Quincy in shining white armor, at your service! What more could Orihime ask for? ^^

(both of them, actually. Ulquiorra and Ishida should have that mutual understanding thing going on for them. Both are white as if Bleach'd, both suffer UST from being around Orihime too much, and they are overall similar. WHO WILL WIN?)

White as Bleach'd, I definately agree with you. ^_~ Eh, Ulquiorra and Ishida have the mutual understand, yes, but I don't see them as similar people. Ulquiorra is just acting like the caretaker of the top prisoner, faithful to his leader. Nothing more. Obviously no harm must come to her, therefore he protects her. Just because he throws a bit of compliments around and Orihime had the gall the gall! to slap him. I recall Ishida and Orihime scenes in the SS Arc in which Ishida helps Orihime's growth. Seeing as this is not an UlqHime FC, I can (hopefully) safely say that Ulquiorra will not be anything to Orihime other than platonic at the most. Also...Ulquiorra is a bit more..not heartless, but more impassive? Ishida is not impassive towards Orihime, that's for sure. And isn't there a saying about "birds of a feather flock together"? Orihime and Ishida are definately wierdos in their own way...hmm...interesting! Urhm...sorry, seems like I kinda went on a rant? O_o;;

Anyway, like Adam said, we can't really expect TOO much romance-type things from a shounen manga. BUT! *crosses fingers* Let's all hope for the best! *cough* ...while sharpening our knives in caso de emergencia... :p

- caboose

[Sapphire Star]

lol well said......Yes if IchiRuki and IshiHime doesn't happen........*starts to sharpen knives as well*

I mean I agree completely. I really don't see the whole IchiHime thing.....to me it's just some phase high school crush thing to me as well. Some peeps may be seeing more into it than there really is. >_> Truth is Orihime herself alredy knows ther is no chance for her and Ichigo.

And as you've so wonderfully put it I doubt that Ishida would back down as well.....he is a gentleman and sensitive to Orihime nad her own sensitive side BUT BUT BUT he is also a guy who does not like to be .....erm...well...I guess the word would be "defeated" or bested. So I think these two in the end SHOULD work out anywho. Ishida won't give up winning her affections so easily..

BUT again as everyone else has already said multiple times this IS a shounen manga we're talking about here not shoujo so I doubt we'll ever see some real romance (like kissing) BUT we can always hope. The main focus in Bleach is the action obviously so romance naturally takes a backseat to all that since the target audience of shounen is guys...>_> 'Course girls still love it too BUT I'm sure you all get what I'm saying....

[Caboose]

lol well said......Yes if IchiRuki and IshiHime doesn't happen........*starts to sharpen knives as well*

I mean I agree completely. I really don't see the whole IchiHime thing.....to me it's just some phase high school crush thing to me as well. Some peeps may be seeing more into it than there really is. >_> Truth is Orihime herself alredy knows ther is no chance for her and Ichigo.

And as you've so wonderfully put it I doubt that Ishida would back down as well.....he is a gentleman and sensitive to Orihime nad her own sensitive side BUT BUT BUT he is also a guy who does not like to be .....erm...well...I guess the word would be "defeated" or bested. So I think these two in the end SHOULD work out anywho. Ishida won't give up winning her affections so easily..

Thanks for the nice comment, I was hoping I didn't sound wierd! XP

LOL, yes!, let the sharpening of the knives and any other sharp objects commence! :p

Glad that I'm not the only one who views IchiHime as a phase! ^^ Orihime does see that she does not have a likely chance but, since she is human afterall, she still wants to hold on. The girl has stated herself in numerous occasions that Ichigo looks at Rukia differently, that Rukia is the person who changed Ichigo's world, that Ichigo and Rukia actually have something for each other. It's cool that under her ditzy exterior, Orihime is a very perceptive person! :love

THEREFORE! Orihime's shining knight can only be Ishida. I mean, without the symbolisms involved, their interactions in the SS Arc proved something. (Hopefuly, KT brings some more of those interactions soon!) ><U I find it ironic that even Orihime, being the perceptive person she is, can't see Ishida's affection for her. (I know, I know, it's kinda small but hey! It's still THERE.) When will Orihime turn around to see her true prince, the one she's been looking for, standing behind her where he has always been?

- caboose

[Sapphire Star]

Hmm..hopefully pretty soon. As for her not noticing Ishida...I think this is a matter of her being blinded by her Ichigo crush....but I do think something's gotta pan out in regards to the IshiHime coupling. I mean why would Kubo have gone to the trouble to have hinted at Ishida liking Orihime in the SS arc if he ewasn't ever going to use that info ever again? I doubt he was just filling something in cuz he had no idea what else to put......so it's obvioulsy gotta mean SOMETHING. Right?