Ishida x Orihime; the Gentleman and the Fair Maiden

[debbiechan]

http://images.cosplay.com/gallery.php?member=34201
Here I found IshiHime cosplay pics.

Aww, thank you. Those were cute. That girl is really a good Ishida. Ishida's one of those characters people tend to cosplay with their own real hair but his hair is truly inhuman and a wig looks better.

[chichiru]

Uh, I forgot to post two selfmade avies. A bit stupid, but anyway... *sigh*
http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/27750/2005508451534123064_rs.jpg http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/27454/2005521249955889447_rs.jpg

[debbiechan]

Well, more than mere hours but the deadline to vote is soon, this Sunday Nov 18, at the stroke of midnight, CST. The winner of the popular vote gets his or her story illustrated by the illustrious dragonboy_mt

The 26 fics are linked here and you vote in the comments (Anonymous may vote): http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/82894.html

and thanks for those cute avies, chichiru!

[StarryInoueSky]

I don't know if this has been discussed before. If it has, forgive me. I'm craving IshiHime and searching for fanfics ands stuff but I was curious to see what other IshiHime shippers would like.

Who would you like to be the one to make the first move? Not who you think, but who would you like: Ishida or Orihime?

I personally would want Orihime to make the first move. That way Ishida would be surprised and happy at the same time. Nothing better than thinking one thing and being surprised the next moment because what you thought was totally wrong. Plus, I think it would be a lot easier for Ishida to confess his feelings for her.

How about you guys?

[lookingback7]

I think that's plausible. Orihime is impulsive and Ishida is a thinker so while he was strategizing, she would be acting. :D

Besides I love Uryuu's surprised face!

[StarryInoueSky]

His wide eyes with his mouth a little bit open. "I-Inoue-san..."

Orihime would just smile at him.

I can just imagine it and I like it VERY much.

[debbiechan]

haha, I WANT Orihime to make the first move and if there's ever a first move in canon, I think she will. I'm holding out for an ambiguous sort of conclusion that implies Ishida is going to be there for Orihime, but I wouldn't be that surprised if after some revelation, Orihime impulsively kissed Ishida -- because it was right and she knows he'll reciprocate. Faint maybe but eventually reciprocate. ^__^

[StarryInoueSky]

He'd wake up on Orihime's futon, surprised as how he got there and WHO carried him there. All he'd see would be Orihime sitting beside him with her hands on her lap waiting like a wife (except she's not the wife... YET) for him to wake up. Once she realizes he's awake, the worry slightly fades away while a big smile appears.

"Are you okay, Ishida-kun?"

Ishida: "Inoue-san! How did I get here? *blushes after he realizes where he is in and pushes his glasses up* Why am I in your futon?"

Orihime: *smiles* "Oh! I carried you here because you fainted after I kissed you." <- I think a small blush would appear right now. I think she'd even avert her gaze to her hands or something.

:)

Gah! I want to write a fic for them now.

[debbiechan]

:)

Gah! I want to write a fic for them now.

<3 DO!!!!!!!!!!! I'd so read it!

[StarryInoueSky]

I'm actually working on one right now. :) I'll share it when I'm done, but don't expect a professional fic or something seeing as I'm not a pro. ^^ Still, I hope you all enjoy it. It would be my first true IshiHime fic. *excited and nervous for it.*

[mezzo_marinaio]

Already posted this at the Ichiruki FC, but since it also involves Ishihime I'm posting it here, too. :) If someone wants to comment on the other pairings in detail, well, please come to the other pairing FC! :D We'll all be happy to hear from you!

Behind spoiler, because it is, er, long. :) And I mean LONG.

So! There are a couple of patterns in the Bleach manga (among a lot of others, of course, but since I think everyone has already discussed them ad nauseum I won’t dwell on them here :D) that I couldn’t help noticing, and I’d like to point them out and hear your opinions on the matter.

Premise: my main ‘couples’ in Bleach (the ones I’d like to see get together) are Ichiruki, Ishihime (obviously) and Hitsumatsu. I also believe them to be the more ‘likely’ ones to have a positive resolution at the end of the manga (either clear or suggested). Why? Well, for a variety of reasons, but there are a couple of characteristics that all these three couples seem to share, and personally, I don’t think it’s a coincidence at all! :)

Because of this, I’d like to present my argument by talking a little of all these three ships; I present my apologies in advance to anyone who doesn’ ship either Ichiruki or Hitsumatsu – I swear I’m not trying to ‘convert’ anyone, but my argument kind of rests on the comparison of these three couples, so I have no choice but to talk about them… :p

Well, then. Everyone has their own reasons to ship a couple or another, right? Usually this is connected with personal likes and dislikes, previous experiences, etc. Because of this, I think one of the most important things to analyze when one is trying to guess where the manga is going as far as shipping is concerned is the author’s own preferences.

So. Has anyone thought about Kubo’s likes and dislikes? :) I’m sure we all did. This are my main conclusions on the subject, but everyone is free to reply if they think I’m totally off course or something! :o

The first point, obviously, would be the similarities. I don’t mean superficial things like clothes, hair colour or the like, I mean deep, important similarities in either behaviour, personality, or shared experiences. You’ve already talked a lot about Ishihime’s similarities (not that I ever get tired of hearing about it :)), but they’re not the only people in the manga to possess all kinds of parallels! Let’s summarize briefly.

With Ichigo and Rukia, we have literally tons of parallels (after all, they are the main characters :D): both of them felt guilty over losing someone important and sort of thought it was their fault, but tentatively made peace with it (with each other’s help :)), both are personally connected with the problem of human/hollow hybrids (Shirosaki, Grand Fisher) and are probably the only ones who know perfectly what Ichigo is facing right now and what he may end up becoming if he’s not careful (just look at Rukia coming back and getting Ichigo back to his senses in under five minutes :love), both have the tendency to take too much responsibility on their shoulders instead of accepting their friends’ help (or, in Rukia’s case, instead of actually asking for help), both felt unhappy and unable to act or change things before meeting each other, etc. etc. We know all about their similarities, I’m sure. :uhuh So let’s talk about the others now, ok?

Ishida and Orihime also share a lot of similarities, though they may be a little less obvious: both of them have lost a loved one in their family and were unable to do anything about it, both of them have felt powerless and useless, lacking faith in themselves and their abilities, both of them are dealing with an unrequited (only for the time being, I bet, in Ishida’s case :)) love, both of them seem to face the same kind of trouble at regular intervals, losing one problem only to pass it on to the other… no seriously! :D Think about it: first Ishida was fighting for pride, not protection, then he found his purpose in Soul Society when he was with Orihime (though I doubt he has completely realized it yet), and now he’s totally fighting for Orihime’s sake (‘We have to save Inoue-san!’, indeed)… Orihime, on the contrary, was fighting to protect in the beginning (Tatsuki, anyone? I know it’s hard to remember, but she was so totally cool then! :yell), then gradually lost her purpose as her love for Kurosaki-kun got bigger and bigger, until it seemed to swallow her completely… now she’s really lost; she sort of wants to be useful to Kurosaki-kun and to be noticed by Kurosaki-kun, but she doesn’t seem to remember what the source of her powers was, what made her FIGHT to begin with. Still, I know she’ll get her act together once she gets into protective mode again. :uhuh And like I said, similar problems can be faced more easily with the help of someone that’s already been there. :)

Third, Hitsugaya and Matsumoto! :D I seriously love those two, though I know not everyone likes this couple (which is all right, of course! But remember that Hitsugaya, thought he looks like a child, is still an adult, and his body will grow up someday! :))… anyway. Similarities! They’re so full of them I don’t even know where to begin! We have the obvious fact that both of them have had very important people (both childhood friends, even!) ‘stolen’ from them by Aizen and company, and that both of them wished to reach that person’s heart but were unable to do so (either because they were seduced by a masterful brainwasher, or because of reasons as of yet undisclosed – but still, the fact remains that both Gin and Hinamori basically chose Aizen over their old friends); both of them were basically betrayed by a person they loved (either romantically or not, but the concept still stands), while they seem to trust each other completely (both in battle and as a person), etc.

These are very basic lists, but I think they still help to point out an important characteristic that Kubo seems to love giving his couples – shared problems and, therefore, the ability to understand and help each other (even a certain, uh, camp seems to have subconsciously realized this, amid all the denial, and is pushing to find non-existent connections and similarities between, uh, certain characters. :rolleyes: Seriously, ‘They were both kicked aside by the enemy’? Let’s try to come up with something more substantial, here!). I think it is quite touching, really, and also leads directly to my second point, because people who can understand and help each other, in addition to loving each other, are usually defined as healthy couples, aren’t they? :)

Well! Kubo LOVES healthy couples. Oh, he likes to portray all kinds of love, obviously (he is such a shoujo man! :D); we have the unrequited, selfless love that can still fill you with happiness because the point isn’t to get anything back (the dear Renji), the obsessive love that, though filled with good intentions, gradually destroys your happiness and your self-worth (poor Orihime-chan), the selfless and not-quite-realized one that is totally going to end up in unexpected happiness (Uryuu-kun! ;)), the totally selfless but doomed one because centered around a horrible person (sigh… poor Hinamori), the shy and timid one that can still give someone the strength to do something they’d never do otherwise or to change sides at the last moment and realize their own mistakes (Hanatarou, Kira), the slightly unbalanced one that can still find a little happiness because both of them are trying so hard (Byakuya and Hisana), redemptive love/not-fully-realized-love/I-still-don’t-understand-Ulquiorra-and-have-no-idea-where-his-story-with-Orihime-is-going-though-I-am-fascinated-by-it love, etc. etc.

But! For all that there are so many kinds of possible couples in Bleach, Kubo has done nothing but underline the importance of mutually beneficial relationships; because of this, the people that have been shown to gain only happiness and ‘profit’ from being around each other and that can be considered all-around healthy are most likely to have a ‘happy end’, in my opinion. Just look at what Kubo has given us up until now! :)

First, we have Ichiruki. :love Do I even need to say anything here? People more eloquent than me have already noted how much Ichigo and Rukia have changed each other for the better, have changed each other’s other relationships for the better, have helped each other with their problems, have filled the empty place that plagued them before they met, have finally started to face their skeletons in the closet after their fateful meeting and are always, continuosly improving, improving and improving when they are around each other (most of all, they are so tremendously happy when they are together! :)). Other relationships, such as the one Rukia has with Renji, are also, in my opinion, beautiful and touching, but not completely happy or reciprocal. Renji did leave her alone for 40 years, and failed to understand her desires even though he had known her for so long; Rukia didn’t try to reach out to Renji on her own during those 40 years, wasn’t able to let go of her Kaien-related guilt thanks to his help. I honestly love Renruki, but from a literaly point of view, Kubo didn’t place it in the reciprocal/healthy categories, and as such it doesn’t, I think, have much of a chance to end up being canon.

Now, let’s continue on with Ishihime, shall we? :D Ishida and Orihime were beautiful in Soul Society (and not only in the ‘Oh, he/she is so pretty!’ that is often the only bright point in many chapters of this painful arc :o), but even before that, though it may have been subtler: Orihime knew about Ishida’s habits and behaviour and could correctly interpret it even before becoming a real friend to him, just as Ishida was always kind of awed by her optimism and enthusiasm, treated her with a strange sweetness and always, always remembered to thank her for everything she did for him (asking him to train with her and Chad, healing him, protecting him in their fall, etc. Compare this with Ichigo, who often ignores her and even forgets to thank her when she heals him :rolleyes:). They worked wonderfully with each other in Soul Society: Orihime was awed by his powers as much as he was awed by hers, she admired his strength and force of will just as he admired her inner strength and compassion; Orihime fought hard as nails when she decided to help him in his fight against Mayuri – she had to be knocked out to be taken out of there. Ishida didn’t exact his revenge even thought he could have – something had already changed in him by the time he had to give the ‘final blow’ (and in case anyone doubts it, it is considered a good thing in the context of the manga. Ishida wasn’t ‘too soft’, he wasn’t ‘lacking killing intent’, he was simply merciful. And Kubo always lets us know if something is good or bad, when he needs it to be unambiguous – just look at Orihime’s reaction of fear when Ichigo was suddenly covered by the hollow mask: by the characters’ expressions and Hime’ look of guilt we know that her fear was something bad, and not an admirable reaction. In the same way, Nemu’s confused gratefulness when she thanked Ishida for not killing her father was an obvious hint that our Uryuu did the good thing, thanks to Hime’s influence :)).

This couple is very balanced: not in the love department, of course (Orihime still loves Ichigo), but in all the other departments, yes, which means that, should the element of love be added on Orihime’s part they would adhere completely to Kubo’s favourite pattern. :cool:

This is also one of the reasons why I always roll my eyes when people say that shipping Ishihime and claiming that Ichihime has no chance at all is hypocritical: Orihime and Uryuu lack the reciprocal love element, but everything else in their friendship/relationship is mutual and healthy, so it wouldn’t be that huge of a step on the author’s part to eventually let them get together, while Orihime and Ichigo are so totally disconnected that even if we added a reciprocal love element to their relationship, unless they completely changed their way to relate to one another they’d obviously be destined to tragedy and unhappiness.

Think about it: Rukia is in love with Ichigo, so that rules out the possibility of Orihime’s feelings ending up requited – still, even without this important fact, Ichigo and Orihime simply do not change each other for the better; Ichigo is not affected by her, and she in turn is affected negatively by his presence. This are very bad foundations even for a friendship (which Kubo has shown us clearly), not to mention romance… to the point that I bet both Ichigo and Orihime will have to change their attitudes towards each other before the end of the manga, because this is simply NOT how nakama are supposed to act with each other. :notrust Trust, basic understanding and acceptance are required here; let’s just hope it doesn’t take another fifty chapters… :cry

Finally, Hitsugaya and Matsumoto. :) Those two are more marginal characters, and so haven’t been shown as much as the others, but every time we see them Kubo seems to underline again and again how well they work together and how they always help each other both physically (I mean in battles, of course :D) and emotionally; one example that always comes to my mind when I think of their relationship is the chapter (omake?) where Hinamori comes to Hitsugaya’s office to offer him her congratulations for his birthday, but at the end Matsumoto is the one who thinks of inviting him to the roof to watch the fireworks as a present, and it is Matsumoto whom he thanks, while Hinamori, despite it being Hitsugaya’s important day, is still completely fixated on Aizen (poor girl).

Hitsugaya also seems to feel a little uncomfortable in the Gotei 13 – his age and young-looking body are a sore point for him, and while he seems to have confidence in both his abilities and his status as a captain, he’d quite clearly like to be respected and maybe reassured about it; Hinamori doesn’t seem to understand this, and keeps calling him ‘Shiro-chan’ even though he’s told her again and again not to (and Kubo Tite has never given us reason to assume that he’s just saying that to cover up his secret enjoyment for her cute nickname – we have no panels where he smiles secretly after bursting out with his usual “Call me captain Hitsugaya!”), while Matsumoto jokes with him and knows how to make him relax, but is also always respectful of his position and keeps showing him again and again that she’s happy to ‘serve’ under him and that she trusts him completely as a captain. These are only small examples, of course, but they still clearly show us a positive and reciprocal pattern of behaviour that allows us to describe their relationship as a very healthy one. :love

I’m not necessarily saying that all these couples are in love with one another yet – personally, I think both Ichigo and Uryuu are in love with their girls but haven’t completely realized it consciously at the moment, Rukia is also more or less in love but doesn’t allow herself to think about it, Orihime… well, is still not there yet :o, and Hitsugaya and Matsumoto keep getting closer and closer but are too busy at the moment to even think of these things (though Matsumoto’s behaviour in some chapters made me wonder… like her sad/resigned expression when she went outside to allow Hitsugaya to talk with Hinamori, or the VERY understanding expression she had in the bath while Orihime was confessing how she felt powerless to help Ichigo and that ‘someone else’ would always be more important for him – after which she hugged the poor girl and told her that Ichigo needed BOTH of them – projecting a little, are we, Matsumoto? :uhuh).

In conclusion, these are nothing but a couple of patterns I’ve noticed, but I think their constant appearance in Kubo’s ‘successful’ relationships speaks volumes of the important role that things like similarities of life experiences and emotional health have in Bleach. :cool:

So… opinions, anyone? :uhuh

[Jasse]

I dunno, I am not a member of the FC..I am not sure if I am allowed to disagree with the above said...if i am not allowed then please Debbie, you can tell me to delete this post and I will gladly delete it.

Anyway, reps for the effort.

Now where i disagree, very brief.

-Ishida being merciful to Mayuri and its relation to Orihime. Sorry, there is nothing i mean nothing that indicates that it was because of Orihime's influence that Ishida decided not to kill Mayuri.You are doing injustice here to Ishida's character. Ishida has shown repeatedly that he has a kind-merciful side to him several times and I don't think its a by-product of Orihime's influence. and if that was indeed the case, Kubo would have hinted it, but he didn't

He didn't kill the Shinigami that threatened Orihime's life, and you can hardly say that at that time Ishida had feelings for her since they just met with eachother. He also decided not to kill the Ex-Espada, Orihime was NO factor here.

-They both lost loved ones from the family, and so did Ichigo and Chad.
What i mean is this is not exactly a "similarity" since many in Bleach seem to have experienced a similar fate to a dear parental figure.

- That point about Ishida has already found what he wants to protect yet he does not realize is yet is as speculative in nature as claiming that Ichigo has been in love with Orihime all along but he just does not know it yet.
It is more treated under the the speculation category but not as an already established fact.



If anyone is annoyed with this post, then I'll gladly delete it, just tell me Debbie.

[Adam]

If anyone is annoyed with this post, then I'll gladly delete it, just tell me Debbie.

Sheesh, why do people think it's wrong to have their own, separate opinions these days? Don't delete your post.

[debbiechan]

Dang it, Jasse, you know I like it when you argue with foundations. If you came in here and just wrote "NO! THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN! IT MUST NOT HAPPEN!" then that would be a little over the line :D in a FC , but stuff like this is WELCOMED with OPEN ARMS.

I made the exact first observation about the loss that you did. Ishida's loss is not much different from those of other main characters in Bleach (Rukia, Chad, Ichigo) and probably has more similarities with Ichigo insofar as they were unable to protect the beloved one. The loss motif seems natural in a story about Death and its other dimensions.

As for Ishida's sudden bent towards mercy, there's no telling where it came from but it wasn't there before Soul Society. It may be coincidental that his new "I shall not destroy but cripple" attitude appeared with Orihime but it did appear at the same time.



- That point about Ishida has already found what he wants to protect yet he does not realize is yet is as speculative in nature as claiming that Ichigo has been in love with Orihime all along but he just does not know it yet.
It is more treated under the the speculation category but not as an already established fact.

Bad analogy. Kubo has made NO reference to Ichigo not realizing something (in regards to Orihime or not). Ishida HIMSELF has said, "I do not know yet what I want to protect" and this was only a breath after voicing his concern for Orihime. The speculation has a serious context.

[Jasse]

Oh that attitude, Oh it must not happen NOoooooooooooooo...j/k. that was childish, gotta restrict these urges. lol

Ok, we agree with the first point. Lost loved ones.

As for Ishida's sudden bent towards mercy, there's no telling where it came from but it wasn't there before Soul Society. It may be coincidental that his new "I shall not destroy but cripple" attitude appeared with Orihime but it did appear at the same time.

Still, this is very speculative. You can also argue that post-hollow bait event, Ishida decided to cripple rather than to kill. Because Ichigo taught him that hollows are also souls...etc. We can argue that Ishida started to be more morally conscious about his decisions. I believe him not deciding not to kill the Ex-Espada has nothing to do with Ori's influence.

Anyway, it remains speculative in nature at best right now(till further evidence), If Ishida was drawn to his "nature" to destroy or kill again but withhold on doing that because of Orihime's memory..then my argument fails.
Seems like a Innyasha/Shirosaki story. LOL

I dunno what to say about the 3rd point. All i hope that if this was indeed the case. I would prefer that Kubo keeps it extremely subtle.

[mezzo_marinaio]

Jasse - why shouldn't you disagree with me? :) Disagreeing is fun! It's when you ignore logic to do it that people get annoyed, and you presented your point of view clearly and reasonably, so don't worry! :D

I agree with you that Uryuu is not a cruel person... far from it! :) But before Soul Society, he did put his faith almost solely in the Quincy beliefs (which, if you remember, caused a problem for SS because they killed hollow souls instead of purifying them), and this did give him a slightly 'ruthless' (not sure if that's the word I'm looking for, but still) edge. I'm totally convinced he is truly a gentle and generous person, believe me! :) I didn't mean to imply that Orihime gave his a sort of 'kindness' infusion that he would never otherwise have displayed... what I wanted to say was simply that, after he ended up alone with Orihime and had to interact with her, he became more and more gentle not only in her regards, but also in general, and this led me to believe he was influenced by her own kindness, which he commented upon and showed respect and admiration for many times. Or so I think, but since it is not stated clearly, you're free to believe otherwise. :D

I agree with you on the 'lost loved ones' similarity! :p It is not much of a connection, since they're not the only ones who have lost family members. If that's all there was to their connection, then we wouldn't have much of an argument at our disposal... which is why I didn't focus much on that, and just listed it as one of their many similarities (though 'weaker' than the other ones, because shared by other characters in the series).

As for the last point, well, it is speculation, because Uryuu has never stated clearly that Orihime is 'the one person he wants to protect'... however, he did say again and again that he still didn't know what he wanted to protect, and this was just before he protected Orihime with all his strength, worried for her the most and, more recently, went to Hueco Mundo solely to rescue her and bring her back. I think as far as speculation goes, it is quite strong and backed up by actual facts. :) Though you're still free to disagree, of course!

Thanks for the comment!

[Jasse]

Thanks for the reply, it sufficed.

I still hope there would no more romances outside(Ichigo/Renji/Rukia)...romance doesn't interest me as a main driving force in shounen...I admit i am biased.
I like the pride, the family, the history...there is nothing mysterious or cool about romance, I see vulnerability or in other words, its uncool IMO. I find the prospect of Ishida "losing" his pride much more engaging than unrequited love situation.The development that comes from the former is much more unpredictable, which is why i am partially patient with how Kubo is handling his story as of late. A typical hero shining in white armor saving his beloved is very boring IMO. It might have worked extremely well with Ichigo. But SS arc was one of a kind. Individual development is what grips/attracts me to the characters, so romance driven action seem shallow/uncool to me. I know I am quite the stereotypical and much like the fanboys in that regard. Its Ishida's
"I pledge my pride" /"swear on the pride" lines that attracted me to his and many others to his character.

Anyway, this is my opinion on romance. I feel Kubo is overdoing it.


No one is obliged to respond with the comments above. Enjoy your time. I don't mean to change anyone's opinion. thats just my opinion on romance in shounen.

[debbiechan]

Anyway, this is my opinion on romance. I feel Kubo is overdoing it.


:) Everyone's entitled to his or her opinion! And for the record, I do think you're right. Kubo IS overdoing it. And by that I mean, his attention on romance is unprecedented in shounen. Chapter 237 is a prime example--it was... wow.... extreme. But that Orihime's feelings were laid out there so plainly and in NO subtle way (before we could even see them as humor material--that's what her crush on Ichigo was played pre SS). The outright stating of a ROMANCE DILEMMA in any story means that (among other dilemmas that need resolving), there's no room for an open ending. Ichigo must either accept or reject Orihime. Orihime must either get over an unrequieted love, live in perpetual agony because of it, find happiness when her love is requited, or be subject to another plot turn.

Whether we like it or not, romance is right there in Bleach. I, for one, find it very exciting. And as far as Ishida's character goes, I KNOW that Kubo is not going to cheapen it by making all his problems solved in a shojou way. Whether or not he finds a relationship with Orihime (or Nemu or anyone), he has to fix that relationship with his father. Father relationships are the old stuff of shounen; they're the cliche theme; I think romance adds a little depth rather than taking away from the characterization.

I suspect that when Ishida 1) finds out what he wants to protect and 2) understands his father that both realizations will be related. Maybe he'll find out what his father wanted to protect (as in his mother? The hint that Ryuuken wanted to protect his family is strong)

[La_Kalaka]

Jesse-san, it's cool to se opinions like yours. Because before the IshiOri, i love Ishida the most. I have to agree in various of your points about Ishida and the fact that he is a caring and honorable person, capable to learn from his own mistakes :3 Things that made me admire him and respect him a lot as a character.

About the IshiOri, well, I'm a girl and emotionall engagement made my day xD (sorry for the stereotype about girls, cause there are girls who doesn't care about it x_D) At least, 164 is plenty of Ishida seeing only Orihime and the worrying about her feelings instead of himself's

And that is the other point of his honorability and how noble he is. I always see him like that kind of man who is able to sacrifice his own feelings for the sake of others.



I suspect that when Ishida 1) finds out what he wants to protect and 2) understands his father that both realizations will be related. Maybe he'll find out what his father wanted to protect (as in his mother? The hint that Ryuuken wanted to protect his family is strong)

OOoh, that is one of my favorite parts to looking foward about Ishida's development :3 Ishida unlike the most of the cast he dunno what want to protect and such topic keeps in the deeps of Kubo's mind.

[Jasse]

Thanks La Kalaka and Mezzo...such nice members here to put up with me:o


OOoh, that is one of my favorite parts to looking foward about Ishida's development :3 Ishida unlike the most of the cast he dunno what want to protect and such topic keeps in the deeps of Kubo's mind.

Since many i believe here and even on other forums(Correct me if I am mistaken) already have a "big" feeling that it might be a girl-Orihime-. I am not sure how are you looking forward to it. Since its already "obvious". What i mean if it turned out romantic then i have to say its extremely predictable move by the mangaka...I understand that shippers will be looking forward to how it unfolds but to non-shippers they'll be(I) will be more or less disappointed cause it will be kinda of well sappy...Like i said, most people who are drawn to Ishida like him because not because of the premise of romance(even if a part of the fandom does anticipate it). They are generally drawn to his proud character, his brains, his powers, the comedy, the fact that he tries to bring life to once was considered a dead old culture and so on.

I do hope for something different and unpredictable and less sappy/mushy.

On the other hand, objectively speaking..if it did turn out something different, that shouldn't DETER the possibility of any romance occurring, it would just mean that romance is not central to his character.

I sure hope so..(my opinion).

[debbiechan]

Regarding what Ishida wants to protect.


On the other hand, objectively speaking..if it did turn out something different, that shouldn't DETER the possibility of any romance occurring, it would just mean that romance is not central to his character.
[/SPOILER]

I'm actually with you there. I'd like to see it be something MORE than just one person because it's already plain that Ishida wants to protect Orihime--almost obsessively. It's one of the instances where (I think) Kubo has spelled something out so plainly that it's not a big REVEAL, although for shippers the joy might actually be in how it's revealed, not the revelation itself. Still, I understand plenty people actually don't believe that Ishida cares for Orihime "that way" at all, so it could be big enough a surprise for the story.

I'm not worried about what Kubo is going to do with Ishida's characterization. It's plain to me that Hime or no Hime, Ishida is going to learn a lot and grow in this manga, that he's second only to Ichigo in terms of love from the manga-ka, and that even in a cast with hundreds of characters, Ishida gets attention.

Of course, Ishida and Orihime seem made for each other--I believe Kubo wanted us to believe that and this is why, even though the couple haven't had ANY contact in forever, this ship is still a pretty strong one. It's been a consistent top-10 ship in Japan for over five years and it got a HUGE boost from just one coverspread! The chemistry--it's undeniable. It's something the fans want to see more of--whether or not it involves romance, I think.

[Jasse]

Wow, you actually agree with me...I am glad you got my point:).Since it was Not so anti-pairing as its about looking forward to some other kinda of refreshing unexpected development for "what he wants to protect". than yeah, its a girl...woopsie, how original!!! sorry, but i find that boring, not necessarily, because the girl involved is Orihime, i would hate it if any other girl was meant...its just so cliche. I don't know, I do know that many of the Ishida fandom(maybe save for shipping fans) won't be thrilled/excited about it.Yeah...its her along!!! I would very much dislike it.

Still, I understand plenty people actually don't believe that Ishida cares for Orihime "that way" at all, so it could be big enough a surprise for the story.

This is very True, (In the Western/Non Japanese fandom)...I have no idea how the Japanese perceives the possibility of this couple happening. But, believe me, while it would certainly surprise some, it would cause a whole alot more disappointment than overall surprise. Because, after all, this is a shounen manga. I count myself as a skeptic(before, i outrightly rejected the thought that he might "care a bit more" so thats an achievement..lol.)


it got a HUGE boost from just one coverspread

Really, How did the Japanese react to the color spread(particularity Ishida and Orihime)?:confused:

[debbiechan]

Really, How did the Japanese react to the color spread(particularity Ishida and Orihime)?

The fanart response was there right away. I hadn't seen much IshiHime for a while, but after the spread, there it was.

This fanclub got lots of new members, I noticed! :) I don't know how many of then exactly were non-Western but I know a few were.

[debbiechan]

Announcing the winners! Go here:

http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/86339.html

[mezzo_marinaio]

Debbie-chan! :)

Your birthday is today, right? Happy birthday, then! Let's celebrate in a Ishihime way, shall we? :D

Tell me something you want drawn, and I'll draw it for you! :cool: Just... please be good and don't ask something like, say, Ishida and Orihime in front of the Westminster Abbey... entire architectural structure included! :eek: Pretty please?

Once again, a very happy birthday (though a little late... sorry :p)!

[La_Kalaka]

Eeer, I think my english is really really bad (i'm mexican x_D) but although the idea about Ishida finding what he wants to protect in Orihime sounds nice to me, I would prefer something more according to the shonen idea as you say.

I'd like to see it be something MORE than just one person... It's plain to me that Hime or no Hime, Ishida is going to learn a lot and grow in this manga,

Well debbie has explained this a lot better than me ^^.

For Ishida, Orihime maybe is one of the first important persons he finds after the death of his grandpa (excluding Ryuuken for now, cause this is complicate O.o), and while the story is being developed, he starts to find that there is more people around him to care and who care about him (he has just found that Renji is his Nakama, too)

[debbiechan]

Debbie-chan! :)

Your birthday is today, right? Happy birthday, then! Let's celebrate in a Ishihime way, shall we? :D

Tell me something you want drawn, and I'll draw it for you! :cool: Just... please be good and don't ask something like, say, Ishida and Orihime in front of the Westminster Abbey... entire architectural structure included! :eek: Pretty please?

Once again, a very happy birthday (though a little late... sorry :p)!

I know! I know! In my fics they have a girl baby, Tsyuu. Black hair and blue eyes like Daddy. A picture of IshiHime with a baby? An infant should be simple, no? It can even be a little swath of clothing but all I know is that seeing all these IchiRuki family pics has me wishing there were more IshiHime baby pics!

Thank you so much for thinking of me! I love fanarts!

La Kalaka--I'm glad you agree with me. Ishida has been so alone for so long. He has nakama--I'm glad he is learning that in this arc. I saw him fight with Chad and then with Renji... I wonder if he's going to fight with Orihime next? :D:D:D

[Jaimie]

Posting this on behalf of Jenni (http://metaphore-art.livejournal.com), who drew this for Debbie's birthday.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/567/0001qqh6vt1.png

:inlove

[Azumi 15]

Can I please join?

[debbiechan]

I was going to post that, Jaimie but thanks for beating me to it. Isn't it BEAUTIFUL!!! I'm so happy that Jenni made it for me! I have some more fanarts to share later.

OF COURSE YOU MAY JOIN AZUMI 15! Have some birthday cake! Here, some pocky too. Our motto at the IshiHime club is "a little sugar is good for you."
You'll find links and interesting information in the first post of this club and I hope you have fun here!

[mezzo_marinaio]

Request added to my list of 'Things to do'! :D

By the way, I don't remember that story... :mad: I am a bad fan! Does Tsuyuu have long hair? Short hair? Any details I should know about? Also, where is the story? Just as a reference, of course. *cough* :)

[debbiechan]

Request added to my list of 'Things to do'! :D

By the way, I don't remember that story... :mad: I am a bad fan! Does Tsuyuu have long hair? Short hair? Any details I should know about? Also, where is the story? Just as a reference, of course. *cough* :)


Oh I never described her appearance well---just her personality which is defiant, bossy, and aggressive. She's almost like a mini-Ryuuken with her own version of restraint and cool. :D

Her first appearance in "Life is Trying": http://www.fanfiction.net/secure/live_preview.php?storyid=3015060

Some other stories that feature her. She's got some typical pain in the butt moments in "Ichigo's Funeral":

http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/tag/tsyuu


An older Tsyuu in "Terror at Tanabata": http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/tag/terror+at+tanabata

[debbiechan]

major pic spammage! First these IshiHimes appeared from Lovedrop today:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/ISHIHIMEFROMLOVEDROP.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/ISHIHIMEFROMLOVEDROP2.jpg


Next! Some IshiHime fanarts given to me for my birthday. I'm so touched, really touched to have such talented friends who do things like this for me.

from hidden_gems (Charlie is my oldest IshiHime bud!)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/__Thank_you__Ishida_kun____by_Hidde.jpg

from edge_chan:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/cumpleaosmd7byedgechan.jpg

from baby werewolf:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/Hanabi_by_LoneWolfLoverGirl.jpg

from JENNI!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/HappyBirthdayDebbiebyMetaphore_Art.png

And last but not least, our illustrious co-owner made me this graphic. Thank you, Adam!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/motivator469801byadamepp.jpg

[Vizard_King]

Iiii'm Baaack! for now, anyway. For One Night Only! indeed.
And yes, I can imagine 'Hime confessing her love to the young quincy before he gets the guts (I mean this both literally and Figuratively, cuz wacko Arrancar crushed his innerds to smithereens )
Ishida well most lickly be dumbfounded and happy all at the same time, making what I like to call a Kodack moment.
Oh his face...it well be priceless

[Melodymix]

Vizard_King wanted me to translate this on the Bleach SOULs book


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7241/soulspostnr4.png

Here is what it says

“ “She is not just a nakama…”, accepting Ichigo’s feelings towards Rukia, Orihime’s heart painfully sway. And inside Ishida, a new feeling develops. “I don’t want to make her sad” (referring to Orihime). With that thought, he wishes for Ichigo’s victory

[debbiechan]

Vizard_King wanted me to translate this on the Bleach SOULs book


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7241/soulspostnr4.png

Here is what it says

“ “She is not just a nakama…”, accepting Ichigo’s feelings towards Rukia, Orihime’s heart painfully sway. And inside Ishida, a new feeling develops. “I don’t want to make her sad” (referring to Orihime). With that thought, he wishes for Ichigo’s victory


Guh.

Ah.

Wow.

And if it's true that Kubo is credited in the databook for writing this, WOW.

:inlove

Thank you so much this *reps*

[sasuki-chan]

Vizard_King wanted me to translate this on the Bleach SOULs book


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7241/soulspostnr4.png

Here is what it says

“ “She is not just a nakama…”, accepting Ichigo’s feelings towards Rukia, Orihime’s heart painfully sway. And inside Ishida, a new feeling develops. “I don’t want to make her sad” (referring to Orihime). With that thought, he wishes for Ichigo’s victory

OMG :eek::eek: ...DNBJEHVIJXLGAH :eek::eek:
....erm thanks for sharing,I didn't expect such an awesome post this morning :inlove:inlove
it looks good for ishiori and ichiruki (though kubo didn't say precisely which feeling is developing inside ishida,I think we could easily deduce what is he taling about,or so I hope XD)
ok I stop my fangirling now >_____>

btw,now that I think about it,I have never seen any translation of the soul book..

[Adam]

Welcome, Azumi 15.

@ manfan: You probably shouldn't promote a contest that isn't exactly related to Ishida x Orihime here. I'm sure most, if not all, fans of Renji x Rukia on this forum go to that Fan Club already and heard about it there.

[Ileenka]

My dear AiOri owner has gone whacked. Ishida and Orihime has nothing to do with Renji Rukia. I thought she wanted to come in and ask for alliance FCs with Orihime involved in any coupling, but she spammed here instead. I'm sorry, Debbie. This is all my fault. :cry

Here's fanarts to apologise on manfan's behalf:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3493/ishiori25aug6.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7761/ishiori4miniyg5.jpg

[debbiechan]

ooh boy, new BY PASS STUFFS! Thanks Ileenka.

I don't mind the contest spam--I'll let it stand. I happen to like RenRuki myself but don't belong to either (are there still two?) fanclub. Seems to me that a general announcement like that could go under "Bleach general" instead of all the FCs. *shrugs*

[Vizard_King]

Thank you for translating that! that is awesome!
and if it's true the Kubo is credited for that....
Ishihime is Cannon!

[debbiechan]

Thank you for translating that! that is awesome!
and if it's true the Kubo is credited for that....
Ishihime is Cannon!

Well, he's credited with writing the databooks even though I believe he couldn't possibly have bothered to write every little part. The thing is, the books have to be approved by him--they're OFFICIAL. And he included little extras in there--like he did with other official merchandise (such as the Kaien release spoiler in a game).

I always believed Ishida--> Orihime was canon, but some people didn't so that's why I'm excited about this translation. Also, the juxtaposition of Orihime being sad ("heart swaying") over Rukia being more than just a friend to Ichigo with that picture of Ishida feeling so intensely for Orihime's well being.... well, that just points at something more than Ishida --> Orihime, don't you think?

Sometimes, hanging around forums and trying to listen (and respect) everyone's crazy theories), I forget that what the majority of Bleach readers interpret is very likely what the manga-ka intends. IshiHime. IchiRuki. Yep, that's what it looks like from here (and this from a person who enjoys shipping RenIshi, IchiIshi, UlquiHime and other non-canon ships)

[debbiechan]

Double post, but hey, this is sort of an exciting day for IshiHime, wouldn't you say? ^____^

First, Jasse, stop deleting your posts. I was going to respond about how Ishida was drawn in SS versus HM. It wasn't a useless post!

second. the image from the SOULs databook seems to be off, so here I am posting it again along with MelodyMix's translation:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/debbiechanlovesvegeta/soulspostnr4.png


“ “She is not just a nakama…”, accepting Ichigo’s feelings towards Rukia, Orihime’s heart painfully sway. And inside Ishida, a new feeling develops. “I don’t want to make her sad” (referring to Orihime). With that thought, he wishes for Ichigo’s victory

[Jasse]

Well, that post does not belong here, except for the fact that I found Ishida particularly handsome in that pic above. Unfortunately, Kubo rarely draws him like that. The only pic that resembles the above in the HM arc was when Ishida faced sZayel in chapter 267....Do you want me to go what i found nice?
Lets just say i dig how Kubo draws the upper part of Ishida face, the thick eyebrows(I have thick eyebrows too lol) and the perfect shape of the eyes(not too big or pressured)..The Jet black hair(the thread thats left hanging), the hawk like face/chin, the cheeks look particularly healthy/nice for a teenager.


Well, on the subject, much to disappointment,It might be that Kubo is in his way of canonizing his one-sided feelings. but one-sided remains one-sided, Kubo has given as much(If not more) exposure for Renji's devotion and Orihime's feelings.

What can i say more? since i am not a fan i am kinda of disappointment at Kubo's predictability but i don't want to comment on that anymore here. It would be very selfish and rude of me.

[debbiechan]

Kubo always draws Ishida's eyebrows very thin and I look at that picture, Jasse and I don't see how they're different. The only thing different is that lock of hair that the wind has blown against his face giving him that "Rukia bang" that Kubo likes to give to some of his prettier characters. The expression he's wearing is particularly intense too---I love it when Kubo focuses on a strong expression. The drawing of Ichigo looking down at the wounded Rukia is one of Ichigo's handsomest moments.

I agree that Ishida and Ichigo are drawn very masculine-like in the LATE SS arc. Before the fight with the projectile-expert though, Ishida is often drawn chibi or funnily. (Bear with me, here's where I get on topic). IT'S ONLY AFTER HE RESCUES ORIHIME from the projectiles expert (can't remember his name...) that we see Ishida , from Orihime's point of view and his face is drawn very carefully and he looks handsome. It may be that this is how Orihime is seeing him in a new light---but then right away she makes the MIS assumption that Ishida is all intent on battle because the Shinigami are his enemies, NOT that he's intent on battle because he wants to protect her.

Still, he looked handsome to Orihime for that moment.

He looks handsomer still when he aims the arrow later in the scene and we get a close-up of his "battle face."

I find it interesting that here Ishida is drawn with great care and feeling but he's not in battle. He's feeling something for Orihime. There were many panels like that when Ishida and Orihime were running around in Shinigami clothes--close-ups of Ishida's face in response to Orihime and he was better drawn than ever before.

I have to say that Kubo is drawing Ishida better than ever in the HM arc. It may be that Kubo's style has changed significantly for the better but if you look close, Renji isn't the handsome warrrior he was in SS in HM. There are a lot of comedy reaction shots and quick sketches. Ishida, on the other hand, is beautiful. Even during unimportant scenes when he's not fighting, Kubo has given him a lot of close-ups and drawn him with a lot of care. It led me to believe, at first, that Ishida was going to play a big role in this arc....

I still hope he is. He was unbeatable and heroic at first and now he's down, but the sense I get is that there is a LOT of story to come involving him.

[Jasse]

Oh, about the eyebrows, that might be the shadow, but his eyebrows are nice regardless lol. I like their look. Its the intensity that gets you.

Renji doesn't look at all good looking in HM. but really, he looks like a funny Ikkaku with a wig. He was handsomer in SS, much more.

The reasons you mentioned made perfect sense(the whole from Orihime's P.O.V).
I agree, I would be very biased if i didn't cause for the most part they do make sense.

But seriously, i guess the reason i prefer SS Ishida to HM Ishida, is that he and Ichigo faces were different. Now, Sometimes, i feel they're too similar. and yes, SS Ishida(as well as Ichigo) were manlier there.

[debbiechan]

Kubo likes the shoujo style guy, Jasse. Face it, his character designs feature a lot of long impossibly lean guys who could front a yaoi manga too. He pads shoulders (or puts capes on!) his characters when they're being extra heroic--such as Ichigo at the execution moment or Ishida in his one-winged form against Mayuri.

Thank you for your observations, Jasse. Even if you're not a member here and not a shipper in general, hardcore Ishida fans are always welcome here and I appreciate your imput on the recent translation of the SOULs Ishida and Orihime page. When someone who has been skeptical of Ishida --> Orihime and doesn't like the IshiHime pairing acknowledges Kubo's intentions, I'm one happy fangurl.

The Ishida moment at the Byakuya fight never needed any explaining text for me, but I am so hoping that more stuff like this is revealed as more of the databooks get translated. *happy happy fangirl is me*

[Jasse]

You said something in your journal about the Ishida fandom denying any sort of feelings.

You gotta see this from the "our" P.O.V. and its faulted and biased to a degree. The majority of Ishida fans like his character in the shounen way and don't perceive him as a romantic character. I do not as well despite the implied feelings. This is partly because we(especially the fanboys) do NOT want to see him that way. The cool shounen boy archetype makes us happier and this will most definitely continue to be true.

I find it very strange that you kinda of "complain"/you're not complaining but i don't know whats the right word bothered/surprised of that. When I first joined the fandom, I thought I was in the minority or atleast thats what i was told.

[debbiechan]

It's just one of those things that surprised me, Jasse. I thought Kubo had done a fair job of showing Ishida's feelings for Orihime. I was really surprised when people didn't see it.

To me it's like missing the glow on Ikkaku's bald head. :) But like Kubo said to himself when he overheard some kids talking about Yama-ji's bankai "You've got to try harder, Kubo." Sometimes he's just too subtle.

Me, I like it like that. I like a text that lets you reach into it and pull out different interpretations--for all I harp on how important authorial intent is (truly, I don't think people understand what I'm talking about sometimes.... my authorial intent FAILS! :cry ) interpretation is the best part of reading.

[Jasse]

The reasons IMO:

1- Many genuinely do NOT think Kubo has done or shown that Uryuu
has feelings of her or in the least not enough, the latter part are skeptical about it. They don't write off the possibility completely but they are not totally convinced.

2- Many do not care about the interactions between these two characters
and they overlook it. Oh yeah, so what? he spent some time. WHO CARES?
(I am in this category). I am more attentive to how he interacts with
ryuuken or even Ichigo.

3- The fandom's perception of Ishida's character, like in my previous post.

4- Many truly believe that Ishida bats for the other team. I am as in
really. I met many like that in the net. I don't want to comment any further
on this point.

[puchiko2]

I think like Debbiechan said earlier.. that what's great about some of Kubo's scenes are that they are up for individual interpretation :) One person's interpretation of words or actions may differ from someone elses... but it doesnt make someone wrong over the other :)

Personally, I've always liked Ishida's character. I like how complex his story and personality. On the other hand, Orihime's personality is out in the open.. but is also complex to a degree because of her openness and her passion. When these two characters interact, its always interesting to me :) They seem like two characters that, out of a million stars, seemed to connect very well. I like to interpret that it could possibly mean something someday in the plot, but that is only my personal opinion/interpretation :)

[Vizard_King]

I feel that Kubo well start putting a little more romance into Bleach. I know alot of Shonen have romance. I'v noticed it in games as well.
For instance, the RPG Lunar 2: Eternal blue has plenty of romance to match the fighting.
It is true that Many Shonen have no romance what soever (*Cough* Hellsing *Cough*) but it's still possible.
And I personaly love Ishihime and Ichirukia.

[Jasse]

I gotta disagree there King:

Kubo puts too much romance for his own good. Even fanboys who are generally ignorant of such subjects got notice of this and are very annoyed by it. (I have to admit, I am annoyed as well which is why i am kinda of the recent developments in HM. An arc that wasn't really meant to be romantic despite some of the fandom's expectations of it.

I am more focused now on how characters development and who are the good guys that are gonna bite off the dust in the Winter War.
This show will have to remain a shounen in the end.

Characters like Orihime kinda of suffered in Kubo's writing. Because she's very connected to a romantic theme and is fixated on some character.
People cannot talk about her development without associating her with some male characters in the question.

In the Ishida-Ulqui/hime case: Those male characters will help grow and accept her for who she is and........etc.

and not to forget the whole case that after she'll become stronger,
Ichigo will take notice of her. She will be able to fight next to him.

I will blame Kubo partially for this, Orihime is extremely fixated on her subject of affection thats its almost impossible for fans to expect that she'll make it on her own. Its easy to talk about Ishida's development without talking about some girl in question, because Kubo has always shown Ishida as an independent character who tries his best to solve his problems on his own.
but Orihime over-dependency on male characters is hurting the discussions, even when her most fans like her best with Ichigo. There were problems back in the FC to stop talking about pairings, because they don't want to make the FC look like its biased to some pairing or another. If Orihime was more of a "shounen" character, such posts would never have existed.

[Vizard_King]

Good points, Jasse.
Though I feel that Uryuu well also grow strong enough to fight along side Ichigo and help protect Orihime.
It is very true that her crush on Ichigo is obviusly still there, but I don't think it's growing any strong. I feel she is missinturpiting the feeling she has for Ichigo.
She cares for him like she cares for all of her friends. But she thinks it's love. She'll slowly realize this. She's a smart girl so she'll figure it out sometime in the near future, i'm sure.

Now, It is true that Ishida is a very independent character while Orihime relies on Ichigo and the others alot but I think Kubo made the HM Arc to help her get past that stage and start depending on herself more.

As for the Pairing FCs, History of Anime has shown that even when some characters are proven Cannon pairings fans still like to think of alternitive pairings.

Also, remmber, I'm one of those Guys who are suposidly ignorante of said subjects.

[debbiechan]

haha, Orihime is my favorite female character and one of my favorite characters in Bleach. And you know why? She's shoujo in a shounen. One of the reasons I love Bleach is because it's a little different. One of the reasons I love Kubo is because he's a little different. We kid and call him "SHOUJO MAN" in the pairings fcs. It's the new thing. Kubo is a new young hip manga-ka and the shounen world is changing. More and more girls and women are reading shounen. More and more guys are getting into romance--or at least relationships in their manga where women are more than just a pair of boobs.

It all makes me happy.

Ishida was always a little different. A foil type character who wasn't that vengeful and competitive with the lead character. A guy who SEWS PLUSHIES. And who doesn't seem to give a damn what people think of that (NOT ONCE HAS ISHIDA CARED) and who doesn't understand why Ichigo would think its funny that Ishida walks around in public in his Quincy clothes.
Ishida is TEH MODERN DUDE. He is in touch with his feminine side and he isn't ashamed or afraid of gay jokes, nerd jokes, look at your funny clothes looks--he tells Cirucci "look who's talking" and then he's bad ass as can be with his mighty seele schneider.

Ishida is a man for the NEW TYPE OF SHOUNEN. Watch him be the perfect romantic hero too---not mushy, all perfectly noble and right (and well, of course he's going to blush some more and push up his glasses but that doesn't mean he's not cool!)

YEY ISHIDA!

[Vizard_King]

Bravo, Debbie-chan, bravo. I agree whole heartedly.
Ishida Uryuu is the modern Knight in Shiny Blue armor.
He is proof that Chivilry isn't dead, it's just writhing on the ground.
The Last Quincy is the most Bad Ass Quincy

[Jasse]

My post was about Orihime. Ishida doesn't have this problem:confused:

but whom i am to stop you, enjoy your time.

Edit: I know you did King, but Debbie's answer was ?? strange since I didn't focus about ishida at all.

[Vizard_King]

Well I did respond to your post about Orihime, my friend

[debbiechan]

I just got carried away, Jasse. I wasn't responding just to you. You see, I think romance in Bleach is a good thing and I think that Ishida is just the sort of guy for the new type of shounen--not as a main character of course because you still can't have a main character who sews (maybe in the next century) but Ishida represents a new type of hero to me and I think that IshiHime can work within Bleach. He can save her from her heartbreak over Ichigo and her not understanding love; she can give him a reason to be chilvalrous. I'm a romantic and I like that stuff but I don't like mooooshy stuff either. I think Kubo can make it work....

He just has to get Orihime over her crisis of need, insecurity, and unrequieted love (by either setting her up with Ichigo, making her NOT want anyone or giving her the best choice--giving her Uryuu! :D)

[Vizard_King]

I dunno. A guy sewing may be sorta weird, but a Needle and thread can make a good weapon if you have the skill and accuracy that Uryuu has (Or any Ninja)
Yeah, I know. Only a Guy could think of Sewing as a lethal activity

[Jasse]

He just has to get Orihime over her crisis of need, insecurity, and unrequieted love (by either setting her up with Ichigo, making her NOT want anyone or giving her the best choice--giving her Uryuu! )

This is where we differ. She does NOT need a male character to do that.
She doesn't need a male character to get over her insecurities or even get over her unrequited love. She does NOT need a male character to grow stronger.

Many Orihime fans see her in shipping oriented mindset.
They should separate who they wish to be her romantic partner from her own
character development and needs.

Many seem to enjoy the current situation she's in. Its alright if she's passive and dependent on her subject of affection, this can assure us that she's madly in love with that male character. Other shippers complain of her behavior. Hypothetically speaking, if she grows dependent on other guys, would you guys still be "critical" of her behavior?

I think this is where the shounen "soul" that encourages individuality surpasses shojou.

[Vizard_King]

I agree that she dosnt need anyone to grow stronger. She can easly do that on her own.
But a little help never hurt

[debbiechan]

Even Ichigo needed encouragement and help from his friends.

Orihime will not find her own strength IN a man; she could use some encouragement though. Our friends are who get us through life.

[Vizard_King]

Yeah, I know what you mean.
You can't always go it alone.

Well, It's past midnight over here in Maryland so I'm gonna get some shut eye before work. seeya

[puchiko2]

I agree with Jasse in the fact that for Orihime to develop her character, she must be independent first :)

don't misinterpret, we're not saying that in HM Orihime's suddenly going to go from loving Ichigo to loving Ishida. In HM, what i'm personally looking for to change in Orihime's character is her independence. It's quite clear that her need to depend on Ichigo (or love interest) is wearing her down. She needs to depend on others to rescue her (this has been established many times in the past).

I really think Kubo is GOING to develop Orihime in this arc so that she doesn't need to pull strength from Ichigo, but can conjure it from her own self.

Only after she becomes independent do i think she could create a relationship with herself (and i'd be rooting for Orihime and Uryuu)

[Vizard_King]

I agree. We know it'll take awhile for her to fall for Ishida, right now in the current Arc I am seeing Orihime's dependence on others slowly fadding away. But I think her Independence well truely show up durring the Winter War.
After the war is when I think she and Ishida well get together

[CrystalRaindrop]

Joinage!

...

I can join, right? I was just looking through the member list, and didn't see myself on there. It made me sad. XD

*Loves and hugs IshiHime!!!*

[Sensa_689]

Aaaah, JOINAGE! :yell

I love this pairing! But I got into it just a little time ago, so I don't even know what to think about it. I just feel that Ishida would be perfect for Orihime. And SS arc was so IshiHime. I crave for some IshiHime interaction in manga!

I should admit that debbiechan's fics were the ones to get me to like this pairing a lot. :rolleyes:

(I was so caught up in IchiRuki FC, I didn't even pay attention to other FCs, except Grimmjaw's:D)

[debbiechan]

What a nice feeling to wake up to two new members! Great to have you Crystal Raindrop and Sensa 689! Have some pocky!

I believe Ishida and Orihime were made for each other so that's why I want Kubo to bring them together. There are so many obstacles now but some things, like IchiRuki, are determined by great sweeping motions of fate. I've been waiting so long for more IshiHime interaction. I can wait a little more--because you know it's going to happen and given the importance Kubo gave the relationship in SS, it's going to be a meaningful reunion.

[Vizard_King]

That's the same way I got into Ishihime. All thanks to Debbie-chan.
Now I can't see Orihime with anyone else.

[StarryInoueSky]

Hey guys, I wrote my very first IshiHime fic. :) Please enjoy!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3907111/1/Dont_Give_Up

And I do plan to make a second part to this... I'm sure you can all guess what might happen there. hehe

[debbiechan]

oh Starry, that was so sweet! I liked the "don't give up" theme and Ishida's boldness...

And I can't wait for the next part!

[Vizard_King]

Awsome job. Can't wait for Part 2.
Speaking of Fanfictions. I was thinking of Remaking Of Kings and Quincy so it fits the recent Manga chapters more.
Of course I'm going to have to do this when I get a new laptop.
But I want someone else's opinion on the matter

[Vizard_King]

Holy crap, I found something that fits your fanfic perfectly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO0B23_gB98

[marie]

I must join! I always thought that dork love was adorable~

[StarryInoueSky]

Thanks guys! I'll be sure to post the second part once I've written it up. :) I'm glad you guys liked it. *bows*

I've had a lot of scenerios for these two but a new plot bunny comes in before I can write one down. :(

Welcome, marie! ^^

[marie]

Speaking of fanfiction, I just thought of the most retarded plot ever. It's rather dirty though. :hm

[debbiechan]

DIRTY PLOT DID YOU SAY? :D:D:D

why, here, Marie... have an entire chocolate cake to encourage such writing!
And welcome to the FC. We have a sweet time here!

[Vizard_King]

Yes! more Ishihime fans! Unofficial welcome, Marie-chan

[Ametatsu]

Marie? Did I hear "dirty plot"? *sits up and begs*

[Vizard_King]

Dirty plot? I wanna know!

[Adam]

Welcome, CrystalRaindrop, Sensa_689.

@Marie Star: I bet your dirty fanfic idea is nowhere near as bad as my plan for a Random Girl x Countless Reiatsu Ribbons story.

[Vizard_King]

Adam, I think I know where you are going with that idea.
And I wanna read it when your finished

[marie]

DIRTY PLOT DID YOU SAY? :D:D:D

why, here, Marie... have an entire chocolate cake to encourage such writing!
And welcome to the FC. We have a sweet time here!

Marie? Did I hear "dirty plot"? *sits up and begs*

Dirty plot? I wanna know!

Welcome, CrystalRaindrop, Sensa_689.

@Marie Star: I bet your dirty fanfic idea is nowhere near as bad as my plan for a Random Girl x Countless Reiatsu Ribbons story.

Okay~

My friend and I were discussing Bleach pairings and we got to IshiHime. She asks me what their first time would be like and some other chick says that they wouldn't even know what to do. I lolz then.

Then retarded-idea-sparks form and I got some retarded plot where Ishida and Orihime have their first time - they don't even know what to do? I told you it would be pointless. :hm

[Ametatsu]

DO IT :)
I'm sure it'll be great.

[marie]

I'm terrible at writing fanfictions, but I might give it a go. xD
It'll probably end up being a really short drabble or something.

[Nacchan]

May I Join the Fun...? {^^}

[SarahChan]

i love this pairing ! can i join plz?? :D

[debbiechan]

WELCOME SARACHAN AND NACCHAN! Have some lollipops! I hope you have fun here!

[lookingback7]

My smut sense is alerting me to to goings on. So... what's going on here?

*reads posts*

Aha! I encourage any and all IshiHime (smut)fics as long as links are posted. :)

[SarahChan]

Erm, Debbiechan, u mispelled my name at the front page. i hope u'll correct it. very very very sorry for troubling u. plz forgive me *hides somewhere*

yeah sure i hope i have fun here XD

[chappyrules]

welcome new members :glomp

and whats this about ishihime smut i hear :wtf

Sharing fanart from photobucket i think it love drop

166

167

168

[debbiechan]

I'll fix it right away, SarahChan! :) A name is very important and SHOULD be treated with all the reverence of a person (according to my religion anyway--Jewish here--high value placed on a good name!)

And yeaaaah. What's all the talk about smut fics? I wanna see LINKS, baby. Stop talking and start writing, people! *cracks whip*

[Vizard_King]

(I never knew you were Jewish! Sweet. Learn something new everyday.)
Yeah! We need links!

[Jaimie]

Sorry for the random -- Ever wonder what Japanese fans call this couple?

雨竜×織姫 (Uryu x Orihime)
ウリオリ (UriOri)
アメオリ (AmeOri)

It's funny that some people use "Ame" as in, "Ametatsu" which is what Ichigo initially read Uryu's name as. XD

[Ametatsu]

Because Ametatsu is OBVIOUSLY the better reading :D

[Jaimie]

I admit, I like how Ametatsu sounds more than Uryuu. But isn't Ametatsu more feminine? XDD

Found some IshiHime stuff by Kouougekka (http://id15.fm-p.jp/10/kouougekka/)!


Doujinshi:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/x01.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/x02.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/x03.jpg
Fanart:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/a-01.jpg
An Uryuu cake for Uryuu's 16th birthday! XD

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/a-02.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/a-03.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/a-04.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/a-05.jpg

I always get so excited when I find new IshiHime stuff. :che I'll scan some of the doujinshi if I manage to win them. *crosses fingers*

[Ametatsu]

It is more feminine (which is why I use it). I'm surprised that they use it in the ship name, but I guess they just think it sounds nice...and quite likely if you think in Japanese the readings are very interchangeble in your mind...it's kind of like the way I sometimes mangle vowels to make a ship name sound right (e.g. sirius/remus becomes siriremi), it just seems wierder to non-Japanese speakers because we think of the names as sounds not meanings *has entered the realm of pure speculation here and is likely talking rubbish*

[marie]

Nice fanart finds, Jaimie! I believe I saw the first doujinshi at Ebay, but the auction ended. Too bad. ;___;

[debbiechan]

Thank you Jaimie!!!! I can always count on you. Are you bidding on all three of the doujinshi? The Ulqui/Ishida/Hime one must be recent and looks promising.

[Jaimie]

Just the first two. I got the picture of the third from the website, unfortunately. :cry And if I ever do find it up for sale, I'm pretty sure I'll have to fight other UlquiHime/IshiHime fans for it. :nuts

[debbiechan]

MelodyMix is translating Kubo comments on drawings from the All Colour But the Black artbook.

from the 1st year color spread:

This picture was to celebrate the 1-year of Bleach since it was released. I like Rukia and Kon. I also like Ishida who is looking-over at Orihime

The rest of the post is in the IchiRuki FC here:
http://bleachasylum.com/showpost.php?p=126332&postcount=498

And there's more to come! Who wants to join me in buying Mel a two TON box of chocolates!!!!!:inlove

[puchiko2]

MelodyMix is translating Kubo comments on drawings from the All Colour But the Black artbook.

from the 1st year color spread:

This picture was to celebrate the 1-year of Bleach since it was released. I like Rukia and Kon. I also like Ishida who is looking-over at Orihime


No way!! :eek: I thought the spread was really nice when i first saw it, but for Kubo to comment specifically on that and pointing it out like that... so awesome :) seems like a premonition to the recent ship-implied color spread

[Vizard_King]

Very Nice. Thanks for sharing,Debbie!

[Melodymix]

Another translating from the book...

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/ISHIORI1.jpg

This picture is when everyone is walking to school early in the winter morning. Uryuu and Orihime look cute. I really like the design of Orihime’s jacket in here

[sasuki-chan]

thanks Melodymix for your hard work :hug

my god,kubo sure looks like a ishiori shipper (and ichiruki). He always comments on them when they are together on a spread :rolleyes:
Not that I complain :D:D (eventhough there are other charac with them)
and I agree!:yell they do look cute together :D

MelodyMix is translating Kubo comments on drawings from the All Colour But the Black artbook.

from the 1st year color spread:

This picture was to celebrate the 1-year of Bleach since it was released. I like Rukia and Kon. I also like Ishida who is looking-over at Orihime

this is the first time I see this one. He seems to look at her chest but that's just me:D
I love it :D (rukia looks cute too:o)

[chichiru]

@sasuki-chan
It's not just you who thinks Ishida is eyeing her chest ^^ Imo, he looks at her trying to do the butterfly and thinks "I wanna help her" ^___^

[Sora Chan]

Ohh I found some fanart I have never seen before so I'm sharing though you guys might have seen it.
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2 Fh102%2Fmegaminoeien%2FBleach%2520Fanart%2Fnightsh ift.jpg&searchTerm=bleach%20fanart&pageOffset=9
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2 Fh102%2Fmegaminoeien%2FBleach%2520Fanart%2Fheartfe lt.jpg&searchTerm=bleach%20fanart&pageOffset=8
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2 Fh102%2Fmegaminoeien%2FBleach%2520Fanart%2FIshiHim e2.jpg&searchTerm=bleach%20fanart&pageOffset=7
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2 Fh102%2Fmegaminoeien%2FBleach%2520Fanart%2FIshiHim e.jpg&searchTerm=bleach%20fanart&pageOffset=6
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2 Fh102%2Fmegaminoeien%2FBleach%2520Fanart%2Fdragonf airy.jpg&searchTerm=bleach%20fanart&pageOffset=4
http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/megaminoeien/Bleach%20Fanart/?action=view&current=downwindfromflowers.jpg
http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/megaminoeien/Bleach%20Fanart/?action=view&current=secondchoice.jpg
http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/megaminoeien/Bleach%20Fanart/?action=view&current=midnightregrets2.jpg
http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/megaminoeien/Bleach%20Fanart/?action=view&current=IshiHime4.jpg

Ohh and syn that is a really nice header! Oh also welcome new members!

[Vizard_King]

Thanks Sora-Chan! I've only seen a couple of them. Thanks for sharing

[debbiechan]

MARY'S ART! Isn't her style delicious! A couple of those were illustrations for my stories. Thanks for posting them all here---it's nice to see them all in one place.

That reminds me--I need to start a gallery.

BWAHH. If the holidays don't kill me first, that will be my present to the club.

[debbiechan]

I drew something on a migraine hangover. Caution: slight nude content, nothing explicit.

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2007/336/c/b/Uryuu_and_Orihime_Together_by_debbiechan.png

Deviant Art Link: http://debbiechan.deviantart.com/art/Uryuu-and-Orihime-Together-71174287

(you have to be registered and logged in at DA to view adult content)

[Vizard_King]

MARY'S ART! Isn't her style delicious! A couple of those were illustrations for my stories. Thanks for posting them all here---it's nice to see them all in one place.

That reminds me--I need to start a gallery.

BWAHH. If the holidays don't kill me first, that will be my present to the club.

Well a Thanks in advanced,Debbie-chan. And try not to overwork yourself.

[Vizard_King]

Hey,Debbie, could you put this link to my IshiHime AMV on the first page?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb7YAINqaE
Thanks

[debbiechan]

Hey,Debbie, could you put this link to my IshiHime AMV on the first page?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb7YAINqaE
Thanks

Added! And thank you so much VK! :glomp

[Adam]

Welcome, SarahChan.


http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2007/336/c/b/Uryuu_and_Orihime_Together_by_debbiechan.png


Okay, I can't be silent about the breast--Orihime's left breast; the lower breast--any longer. To put it simply, that breast is way too low. I don't know how, but that breast managed to get under her armpit! Can you get your breasts under your armpits?! Possibly, but not that much and I bet you can't do that with your breasts when the rest of your body has twisted the way Orihime has. Furthermore, Orihime's arms are folded, which should effectively halt the progress of any daring breast daring to slip under an armpit. Now think about the other breast, the top breast (or as I would call it, the right breast), and how far away it is from the left breast. Those breasts are way too far apart? Are your breasts separated by that much distance? I don't think so, unless you have an impossibly large sternum or are over seventy! Bottom line, that left breast should be further up so that it's closer to the right breast, as crossing arms should be pressing those breasts together.

...Breast.

[debbiechan]

I put the line art up on my LJ and ASKED FOR HELP THEN, ADAM! Why didn't you give it before I colored the damn thing?

I did wonder about the breasts. Very large breasts are very squishy. But yes, some cleavage was in order--the space between them is too far apart.

You were really looking close at the breasts, there, eh Adam?

[Jaimie]

Cute fanart from http://chai.vivian.jp/:

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7836/02501hp2.jpg

[debbiechan]

oh, awesome site. Thanks, Jaimie. I love all the GinRan... and love the UlquiHime comix (wish there were more IshiHime:cry UlquiHime is all the rage! I want to see the pendulum swing once Ishida and Hime have a reunion in the manga!)

[Spinel Sun]

I want to join =D
Well I'm also an UlquiHime and IshiNemu fan but it doesn't hurt to support multishipping for a character, eh? For SS arc, I like IshiHime honestly! And if it weren't for the recent ancounters, they'd be together already!

Hey owner, can you accept me? ;)

[Vizard_King]

Unofficial welcome, Spinal Sun.

[debbiechan]

I want to join =D
Well I'm also an UlquiHime and IshiNemu fan but it doesn't hurt to support multishipping for a character, eh? For SS arc, I like IshiHime honestly! And if it weren't for the recent ancounters, they'd be together already!

Hey owner, can you accept me? ;)


Much acceptance! And here, have pocky! IshiHime is my OTP but I'm quite fond of UlquiHime and IshiNemu too (have fic'ed both) We're all anticipating an IshiHime reunion around here. Maybe we should have a contest as to what chapter it will be (other FCs are doing that sort of thing). I say ten chapters at the least, maybe 315. We need to finish up this fight (which I say ain't over and should have some Ishida action!) and then Kenchan and Nnoi.....

[Vizard_King]

You say 315, I say 317.

[Spinel Sun]

I cannot guess about it, to be honest *blushes*

Well I guess Ishida is much more passionate about saving the girl compared to a certain person ;) And Ishida's feelings are really close to be canon!

Ishida is a kind of man that can make every ladies happy in their entire life with his gentle character! And some people say: "The one who makes a girl happy is the one who loves her compared to the one who she loves." That statement can be true due to the evidences of both SS and HM arcs. Orihime was much happier with Ishida compared to her moments in HM! Why? Cos she was with Ishida! I dunno if makes sense to you guys, but I just wanted to state some of my opinions *blushes again* ;)

Thanks for the wellcome Vizard_King-san, debbiechan-san ;D and thanks for accepting me, debbiechan-san (or owner-dono, for that matter XD)

[debbiechan]

I believe Orihime's happy near Ishida too.

It just occurred to me. Maybe she can reject those bacteria Mayuri put in his body. I don't see how Mayuri is going to willingly remove them.

[chichiru]

It just occurred to me. Maybe she can reject those bacteria Mayuri put in his body. I don't see how Mayuri is going to willingly remove them.

yes, I thought about that too.
But my first and perverted thought when Ishida asked if Mayuri was watching his daily life, was 'ooooh, Ishida-kun, you were doing some bad things while thinking of Inoue-san, ne?'

I bet Nemu was watching his daily life.

[mezzo_marinaio]

Hmmm... you may be right, debbiechan. :)

I mean, injuries are one thing - they could be healed by almost anyone now that Soul Society has come to the rescue... Unohana, Hanatarou, I'm sure even the captains know enough healing kidou to be of help to the injured if necessity arises (well, I wouldn't put my money on Kenpachi, but all the others... sure, why not? ;)). But SPY BUGS in one's own body? How do you get something like that out of you? Unless Mayuri himself finds a way to help (and I really... cannot see this scenario happening, to be honest), Orihime's 'rejection of events' is the only thing that makes sense... seriously, it seems too tailor-made for this 'kind of problem' for Kubo not to use it as an excuse to make Uryuu and Orihime interact. :)

Great find, I don't know how I didn't notice something like this! :D

Also, while I would like to participate in the 'when will Orihime and Uryuu meet' prediction game, I'm honestly afraid to do so... why? Well, mainly because Szayel is still alive. I don't know how many times I've hoped that the Szayel fight would finally, finally end - only to be disappointed again and again. If I got my hopes up again and was shot down once more I would lose all will to live, I'm certain of it. :(

I think I'll just look at the next chapters with cautios optimism and wait for Szayel to die/be defeated/win and get the %(/% out of there/God to descend from above and put a stop to this freaking fight before making any predictions. Then I may give it a try. :D Only to die of hopelessness when Szayel comes back from the heavens and demands a rematch. :cry Please, please NO.

[Vizard_King]

What I'm trying to figure out is when the hell did Mayori place the Bactiria inside Uryuu?
My guess is eather
The Bactiria was inside Ashisoji Jizo's Poison gas
Or
Inside Nemu's bottle of Medicine
OR
When Mayori Cut Uryuu with Ashisoji Jizo for the first time.

[debbiechan]

There's plenty of speculation, VK! When did Ishida get infected? See this video XDDDD :

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nmpVSyA0Uzg

[chichiru]

I will be out of topic, but I've been making simple manga coloring with replacing text, the one of them speaks of IshiHime, so I'll post it.
http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/36919/2000200404158374464_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000200404158374464)

[mezzo_marinaio]

Done, debbiechan! :)

The design of the yukata is a little different from what you told me, but unfortunately I had already done that part before asking, so I couldn't change it anyore. :p

I hope it's alright anyway... and Tsuyu is frowning because I just imagine her perpetually frowning. It's her version of a 'neutral expression'. :D

I put the image on my deviantart account (which I've only just now discovered again... apparently I'd joined deviantart some time ago and then completely forgotten about it. Er :cool:)

http://mezzomarinaio.deviantart.com/art/Tanabata-night-71669159

Hope you like it, and long live Ishihime! :D

[Syn]

Mezzo, wonderful fanart! You did great :inlove

For Ishida, I think he might have been infected during his fight against Mayuri, that's the only way I can see it possible (maybe the antidote has those bugs... o_____O).
Also Debbie, you're damn right; Inoue is very happy when she's beside Ishida, and I think that's how this pairing got popular. Because she was still be able to be herself while at his side.

[Vizard_King]

Amazing job,Mezzo! I love that Fanfic!

[debbiechan]

:inlove:inlove:inlove:inlove:inlove:inlove:inlove

I'm still kinda at a loss for words so I'll just copy paste what I wrote on the DA site. I'm honestly so touched I feel like I could cry.

Thank you so much, Mezzo



Guh. Gah. Waaaaaah. You even told me you were doing this but I couldn't have anticipated how happy it'd make me feel to see the finished product.

I... uh... am so touched and honored. Such a lovely gift... and this story is so close to my goofy IshiHime heart. <3333333333 for you.

*throws love and rose petals*

--
debbiechan

And the original story is here, if anyone wants to read it:
http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/tag/terror+at+tanabata

It's not a real popular story of mine (no sex :D) but I had such fun writing who I imagined Ishida and Orihime's daughter to be.

[Vizard_King]

True, Dinner Party has more Sex, but it was still an amazing story.
Though I love Dinner Party the most, not just because of the sex but the Violance as well. And I love the fact that Orihime yanked Uryuu's bangs.
Classic Cool.

[Vizard_King]

I've just thought of this:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g253/Seanvampire/poster13096596.jpg
Made by me

[debbiechan]

Awww, thank you for this VK. Your IshiHime enthusiasm is much appreciated here in the FC!

[Vizard_King]

Anytime. I hope to make more of these.
I try to put a little humor into it too

[puchiko2]

thats adorable VK! So suiting to them :) !

[Jaimie]

Bypass (http://bypass.xxxxxxxx.jp/) has been busy this year. They finally got their offline section up; check out their beautiful doujinshi:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-01.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-02.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-03.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-04.jpg

They will be at Comiket this month! :wtf

[chichiru]

BYPASS is my favorite IshiHime site. Thanks for sharing, Jaimie.

A pic found:
http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/35972/2002565002746833911_rs.jpg

[marie]

Bypass (http://bypass.xxxxxxxx.jp/) has been busy this year. They finally got their offline section up; check out their beautiful doujinshi:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-01.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-02.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-03.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/virkallea/ishihime/009-04.jpg

They will be at Comiket this month! :wtf

Oh my! I never even knew Bypass did doujinshi!
A stupid question, but what/where is Comiket? xD

[Jaimie]

Comiket is a huge doujinshi convention that takes place twice a year in Tokyo. More than 35,000 circles and 500,000 people attended the last one in August, so yeah, it's really big. XD The next one will take place at the end of this month - December 29/30/31. I think the 30th is Jump day, so that's when all the Bleach circles will be selling their stuff. :3

Anyway. ^__^

I never knew Bypass did doujinshi, either! And they're abso-freaking-lutely gorgeous, I can't wait to buy them~

:wtf

[debbiechan]

:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy

Bypass does doujinshi! Bypass does doujinshi! Bypass does doujinshi!

[Vizard_King]

I dunno who this Bypass is but that art is amazing!
I gotta see this Doujinshi

[Schneider]

joinage please. Btw i love the Bypass art. And Mezzo lovely artwork Debbiechan is a lucky girl =D

[debbiechan]

You're most welcome to the FC, Schneider! Have some pocky! Our motto around here is "a little sugar is good for you." And check the front post regularly for updates and goodies.

Yes, I'm a lucky girl. :)

[Vizard_King]

One more for the front page:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g253/Seanvampire/poster98916433.jpg
Another one made by me.

[debbiechan]

New little IshiHime story. Implied IchiRuki romance too:

http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/94838.html

[kimmie_chan]

Can I join please? I can't get enough of how sweet this pairing is ^_^

[Vizard_King]

Unoficial welcome, Kimmie-chan!
Share the IshiHime love.
Nice Harahi Avatar too

[debbiechan]

Welcome kimmie-chan! Today's treat for new members is A BIG COOKIE, and here, a new ficcie from me!
http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/94838.html

I hope you have fun here. This is a sweet club.

[Vizard_King]

Alright! a new Debbie-chan Fic!
Oh, and I posted my 5th chapter in Of Kings and Quincy

[Ametatsu]

IshiHime FST :)


Covers:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g203/lonewolflovergirl/ishihimecdfront.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g203/lonewolflovergirl/ishihimecdback.jpg


Tracklisting:
Love and Some Verses – Iron and Wine
All Is Full Of Love – Death Cab For Cutie
Hold It Down – Unkle Bob
Change Your Mind – The Killers
She Will Be Loved – Maroon 5
Mary – Scissor Sisters
Fix You – Coldplay
Someday The Waves – Iron And Wine
Shiki no Uta – Minmi
Waltz – Suneohair
A Place In Time – Amanda Abizaid
Sunset Soon Forgotten – Iron And Wine
I Will Follow You Into The Dark – Death Cab For Cutie
Michiyuki – Hikida Kaori
That Teenage Feeling – Neko Case

Download link (zip file with covers, mp3s, tracklisting and lyrics: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5NN2ZEKT

[marie]

IshiHime FST :)


Covers:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g203/lonewolflovergirl/ishihimecdfront.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g203/lonewolflovergirl/ishihimecdback.jpg


Tracklisting:
Love and Some Verses – Iron and Wine
All Is Full Of Love – Death Cab For Cutie
Hold It Down – Unkle Bob
Change Your Mind – The Killers
She Will Be Loved – Maroon 5
Mary – Scissor Sisters
Fix You – Coldplay
Someday The Waves – Iron And Wine
Shiki no Uta – Minmi
Waltz – Suneohair
A Place In Time – Amanda Abizaid
Sunset Soon Forgotten – Iron And Wine
I Will Follow You Into The Dark – Death Cab For Cutie
Michiyuki – Hikida Kaori
That Teenage Feeling – Neko Case

Download link (zip file with covers, mp3s, tracklisting and lyrics: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5NN2ZEKT

I loved you for making the IchiRuki FST, and now you make an IshiHime one? You are too awesome for words, Ametatsu. This is probably the first IshiHime FST that I've ever seen, actually.

"Whispers In The Dark" by Skillet and "What Hurts The Most" by Rascal Flatts seem pretty IshiHime to me. "Far Away" by Nickelback as well. Oh, add "Iris" by Goo Goo Dolls to that.

EDIT: What, I can't rep you. :[

[Ametatsu]

hehe thanks :)
You repped me a few days ago for the IchiRuki one, that's probably why you can't do it agian...

IshiHime was what I wanted to do originally, it's just I had a bigger playlist and it was harder to edit down to 15, so IchiRuki got finished first.
(I'm working on a GinRan and a RenIshi and an Orihime one as well, they're becoming rather an addiction)

[Vizard_King]

Alright, you got some songs on that awesome FST, But as BA's Unofficial Theme Song finder, I feel obligated to show off some IshiHime songs.
My Style!
"What Time is it?" by Spin Doctors (Who said they had to be romantic songs? Ishida and Orihime have their fun sides too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxynF0-f_ps
"Chemicals Between Us" by Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x527Vr6xzqg
"Always with you, Always with Me", "The Crush of Love","A Love Eternal" and "Ten Words" all by Joe Satriani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG0z024Z9PM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFaVTkxolB0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v_fFoYgsPo
"In my Dreams with you" by Steve Vai (Feat. Devin Townsend. A Song for their wedding night)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY2MXDLO9EI&feature=related
Now for a little hard Rock/Progressive Rock:
"Storm","DeadHead","Christeen" and "Slow Me Down" by Devin Townsend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyi5mowUt4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrxmrS9FIzc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcfDxq8Zw5A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIriTvJmr44&feature=related
"These Walls"(Good for HM), "I Walk Beside You", "The Spirit Carries on","Lifting Shadows off a Dream" And "Endless Sacrifice" by Dream Theater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-W3flzvjrQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sthn8wSKrJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-cXjxgREQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFOY7V1Iw2Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKNCyW7I0lU&feature=related
And Finally, some Blues and Pub Rock:
"Baby Please don't Go" by AC/DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VlRUIHwygc
"The Space Between" and "What Would You Say"(Another fun song) by Dave Matthews Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvkX3t5LgVI
"Stare too long" by Corrosion of Conformity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp8nd_pd3lo
"Scared" and "Courage" by The Tragically Hip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gO-OYUKzG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO0B23_gB98&feature=related
"SleepWalk" by Brian Setzer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhRNxnTNeM


Alright one I forgot:
"Nobody's Here" by Devin Townsend.
Ignore the video itself and listen to the music. Trust me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeM-hujK5U8
ROCK ON

[debbiechan]

An FST! The first one I've heard of! Thank you so much Ametatsu!
And VK, I'll get your posters along with the FST up on the front post ASAP--I'm running around like a headless chicken today. Thank you all for the reps and kind words about the new IshiHime.

[Vizard_King]

Take your time,Debbie. I'm in no hurry.

[Azumi 15]

"First Date" by Blink-182 reminds me of IshiHime.:D

[Vizard_King]

Meh. Kinda sorta maybe

[Sora Chan]

There was a Ishihime AMV using first date as the song. I have it on my youtube favorites.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IBG8YyDeXHw
(You should also check this one out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjTdIirunFQ&NR=1)
Ametatsu it's great your making an FST. Do you need any song suggestions, you said it was hard to narrow it down didn't you? Well I now have to go listen to the songs on that list. Thansk again!

[Ametatsu]

Ametatsu it's great your making an FST. Do you need any song suggestions, you said it was hard to narrow it down didn't you? Well I now have to go listen to the songs on that list. Thansk again!

lol I need no more sugestions. Do post them (it's awesome how everyone has different song ideas), but don't direct them at me, or I'll have to make another one...I could do that...NO, NO MORE FSTS IN HOMEWORK TIME, AME...

*headdesks* and now I notice another song that I never put on my playlist and would have been perfect: Ashita Tenki Ni Nare by Younha :)

[Vizard_King]

Hmm, interesting,Sora-chan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPPM977NfXQ&feature=related
This is probably my favorite IshiHime song,
"Life" By Devin Townsend
I forgot to add it to my Uber Amazing IshiHime Theme Song List. (Yes it has a title now)
And,Ametatsu sorry for taking the banner. It was too awesome not to use.

[Sora Chan]

Hmm, interesting,Sora-chan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPPM977NfXQ&feature=related
This is probably my favorite IshiHime song,
"Life" By Devin Townsend
I forgot to add it to my Uber Amazing IshiHime Theme Song List. (Yes it has a title now)
And,Ametatsu sorry for taking the banner. It was too awesome not to use.

I like the beat of the song though I can barely understand what he is saying.
http://www.youtube