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A very simple question ^_^
who's going to be the first person to surprise Aizen?
There's always a moment where a manga character gets those giant wide open shocked eyes and Aizens bound to get one somewhere down the line.
who's gunna be first!
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my money is on urahara ^^
silhouette
07-28-2007, 10:54 PM
I say Gin...right after he successfully betrays/overthrows Aizen.
I'll play it safe and say Ichigo. Honestly, it's hard for me to imagine Aizen with a face like that :o. I wouldn't be surprised if Aizen went down with the same facial expression he always has still present.
Orihime surprising him would be the most unexpected, as he thinks he has everything under control. Orihime should be the one to do it. If not her, then Tousen will.
Mikan
07-28-2007, 11:30 PM
I say Gin...right after he successfully betrays/overthrows Aizen.
Yeah, Gin would be a good one.
Or...the really farfetch'd/"yeah, this would never happen" answer: Hinamori when she snaps out of her trance of "ZOMG I love Aizen" and goes postal in HM :D
Geta Boshi
07-29-2007, 01:07 AM
Ichimaru Gin is the most likely answer but I would go with Tosen he is full of suprises .
Sexta Espada
07-29-2007, 01:13 AM
I would say Wonderwice Margera...little kiddies can surprise everybody even the grown ups. LOL!
Velius
07-29-2007, 01:19 AM
No doubt: Urahara. He'll whip out his Bankai and mop the floor with Aizen. :D I don't think it will be right when he releases though. Aizen will probably know/expect whatever that is, seeing how much he has looked into Urahara. But sometime after the Bankia, Uahara will do something to give Aizen that look of shock.
NeoSapien
07-29-2007, 02:36 AM
Isshin, of course. He'd give Aizen the shocked face merely by showing up.
Shadoblak
07-29-2007, 02:41 AM
KEIGO!!! HES REALLY THE KING!!!!!
No really, it'll probably be Isshin and Ryuuken....Ana rrow whizzes past ol Souske's face and he turns to see Isshin Kurosaki and Ryuuken Ishida ready to whup ass!
Primera Espada
07-29-2007, 02:47 AM
Isshin, when he announces that he is Ichigo's father, to aizen.
Aizen: "I see... former Juuichiban Taicho, Shiba Isshin, you are still alive"
Ichigo: "Shiba Isshin?"
Isshin: "ah, that's right, you don't know, Aizen. I go by.... Kurosaki now"
Aizen: "!!!"
or Gin.
When he shinsous Aizen in the back. "I'm sorry, I can't let you do that, Aizen-taicho"
well i think ichigo juss seems fitting.....but then at the same time i would have to contradict myself and say that everything ichigo is doing right now will not go un-noticed by aizen...so i feel like it would be most likely ichigo, but then it wouldnt suprise me if it wasnt....lol...doesnt help much i kno...i liked the idea of urahara...but i feel it to be unlikely......
Velius
07-29-2007, 03:00 AM
People sure do love the "Aizen getting betrayed by [blank]" idea. lol. Pretty sure there has been everyone possible in there, from Gin, Tousen, the vastrodes, even Ulquiorra. :cool:
Sure, he does have that overcovidence to the point that it blinds him so he wouldn't see a betrayer coming, even almost to a point where it seem like Kubo is intentionally setting him up for something like this, >.> but I wouldn't just brush him off as to falling to something like that. It's AIZEN we're talking about here. :)
krompt
07-29-2007, 03:03 AM
Maybe Nell will reveal herself to be an almighty Vastrolorde Arrancar and try to destroy Aizen:confused::eek::confused:
Yeah i highly doubt that >.> But something tells me that Aizen does not get suprised he does the suprising XXD
Jhaxe
07-29-2007, 03:08 AM
My first choice is Gin, since he's already suspicious to the max.
I would like to see Isshin though. If he knew Aizen, that would be so awesome...
Gin is a very shifty character....like he didnt suprise me that he betrayed SS but Aizen suprised me as did Tousen...Gin did not....:P
silhouette
07-29-2007, 10:02 AM
Maybe Nell will reveal herself to be an almighty Vastrolorde Arrancar and try to destroy Aizen:confused::eek::confused:
Yeah i highly doubt that >.>
MY EYES will widen not Aizen's if this happens (O_O !) but I guess everything is possible
Unicorn
07-29-2007, 10:32 AM
I would think that either Orihime or Hinamori would surprise Aizen.
I'm assuming that since Aizen's already been around SS for some time, he's made a list of 'people to watch', with Urahara at the top of the list.
I would think that either Orihime or Hinamori would surprise Aizen.
I'm assuming that since Aizen's already been around SS for some time, he's made a list of 'people to watch', with Urahara at the top of the list.
I think that would be a nice twist, the manipulated making a surprise move. I would be surprised if Hinamori did anything to Aizen, she's just so broken by him.
Unicorn
07-29-2007, 11:54 AM
Hinamori would definitely be a 'ZOMG' factor precisely because she had been a faithful little puppet.
I like Mikan's term in the first page... 'go postal in HM'. *imagines fiery fireballs flying down the corridors of Las Noches.* :D
thatbabo
07-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Isshin, of course. He'd give Aizen the shocked face merely by showing up.
QFT...Isshin seems to be well informed with al things Soul Society and Hueco Mundo...I wonder who the birdie is whispering in his ear?
MY EYES will widen not Aizen's if this happens (O_O !) but I guess everything is possible
I believe it was Dondochakka who said something to the extent of, "I've got to hurry and find Nell, before..."...Now, while I doubt she's a VL, it seems like some kind of foreshadowing by KT...
KEIGO!!! HES REALLY THE KING!!!!!
Damn straight!!! :yell
emoloz
07-29-2007, 12:26 PM
Nah your all fools it will be someone called Bob that will overthrow everything!
Nah Gin/Isshin i think will suprise him the most. The thing is i think Gins sorta expect to betray him but meh you never know with Kubo do you. Probs be Jinta or somethting knowing him xD
It'll be Inoue (really, who didn't see me saying this?)
I don't know how Inoue will suprise Aizen but she will and it will be something big.
thatbabo
07-29-2007, 01:07 PM
Nah Gin/Isshin i think will suprise him the most. The thing is i think Gins sorta expect to betray him but meh you never know with Kubo do you. Probs be Jinta or somethting knowing him xD
Just to touch on Gin real quick. Remember, Aizen is the master manipulator (poor Hinamori). My theory on their dynamic is as follows:
Aizen is aware of Gin's atypical fear of death. Gin is aware that Aizen is aware of that fact. Gin is one of a select few who is aware of what Aizen is capable of (ie. Aizen = pwnage) and sees his alliance with Aizen as the best means for preservation. In fact, Gin's allegiance is probably the best barometer as to who the strongest character in Bleach is. Gin will bail on Aizen as soon as someone stronger comes along and I'm sure Aizen is aware of this fact.
It'll be Inoue (really, who didn't see me saying this?)
I don't know how Inoue will suprise Aizen but she will and it will be something big.
Kubo has said repeatedly that Inoue would be at the apex of something ginormous. Her plans to reject the Hougyoku's existence seems to be something that Aizen is not only anticipating but actually hoping for. Hopefully Inoue will catch onto this and not become another pawn in Aizen's grand scheme.
Shannon
07-29-2007, 01:15 PM
Either Ichimaru Gin or Ulquiorra. They seem to be trusted by Aizen a lot.
spacecat
07-29-2007, 01:52 PM
Gonna be bias first and say no one, gonna be realistic second and say Ichigo....:p
Sergelia
07-29-2007, 01:59 PM
The first? Un, I believe Ulquiorra will do something that might surprise us, but not Aizen; he'll have expected it, the evil plotter. But the first to actually surprise him will be... *drums* Teh Hinamori.
Really now, Orihime, Ulquiorra, Renji, they'll all do something against Aizen (Renji because, well, I just like the idea of the one who was brushed off for being troublesome proving that he is worth more than Kira and Hinamori combined), but I think he'll pull a plot-tweest and prove that he planned it all along (yes, Hougyoku rejection included). Orihime's powers will surely play a HUGE role at the end, but wouldn't it feel like Kubo's pulling an Uchiha on us if everything was /always/ solved by them? Sonte Kisshun (sp?) is not far away from Sharingan on my list of Manga Hacks these days. >__> May it not become Kubo's personal overused trumpcard.
So, all in all, why do I think it's going to be Hinamori?
1) Brain-raped people have only two satisfying choices left - to snap out of it or to die. I think it will be the former.
2) She's the only thing about which Aizen explicitly said he was sure in something. His overconfidence in that Hinamori cannot live without him, will cost him, because that's the Way of Fictional Villains (tm). The villain's first mistake is being "sure" in something.
3) If she doesn't pull anything awesome by the end, she's going to end up first on my list of 'Absolutely Worthless Manga Characters Who Should Be Spat At." And I don't want that.
But as far as my personal preference goes... Orihime rejecting the Hougyoku, Ulquiorra revealing that he's been hiding something about her (it was pointed out by Cezaria in the UlquiOri shipmanifesto - first he compliments her in his thoughts with 'What a firm-minded woman' and then goes telling Noitora how her will is absolutely crushed and what not. WTH, Emospada-san?) from Aizen, and Renji finally putting an end to his 'underdog' status will have me squealing in JOY. <3 <3 <3 And fangirlism attacks.
Mikan
07-29-2007, 07:09 PM
So, all in all, why do I think it's going to be Hinamori?
1) Brain-raped people have only two satisfying choices left - to snap out of it or to die. I think it will be the former.
2) She's the only thing about which Aizen explicitly said he was sure in something. His overconfidence in that Hinamori cannot live without him, will cost him, because that's the Way of Fictional Villains (tm). The villain's first mistake is being "sure" in something.
3) If she doesn't pull anything awesome by the end, she's going to end up first on my list of 'Absolutely Worthless Manga Characters Who Should Be Spat At." And I don't want that.
Yey, I'm not the only one who thinks that Hinamori could snap. And I agree with your three reasons, especially the second.
About the third though (and this is a personal opinion), Hinamori is actually a really good, strong character, except for the fact that she's completely gaga about Aizen even after he almost killed her and her childhood friend. It would be a waste of a potentially good character if she didn't do anything awesome. Kubo could do something amazing with Hinamori by making her go postal in HM and surprising Aizen with her bloodthirst (though I don't know if she really could become "bloodthirsty" enough to go postal, but who knows what's happening with her mental state during this time).
Sergelia
07-29-2007, 08:49 PM
Well reasons #1 and 3 are more-or-less just joking. ^__^
While I'm not sure in Hinamori's 'strength', I do like her. I think I fell in love with the anime sequence in which she escapes from prison; her Kidou was just beautiful. That's why I said I wouldn't like it if she just got randomly ZOMG! stabbed (again... -__-) and left to die, or if she spent the rest of her immortal life in a sanatorium. And that's why I hope she'll go HEY!Spastic, and at least *help* Aizen's downfall, if not really fight him.
That's coming from an Aizen fan, too. I actually secretly want the 'dark side' to win, but after I realized that sort of thing never happens no matter how much I want it, I sorta gave up on the idea. So someone will surprise him.
Why I'm against the idea of Orihime destroying the Hougyoku surprising Aizen?
Because Aizen is a genius, that's why. A genius that told the girl the true extent of her powers, then showed her the Hougyoku. Come on, guys, how stupid does one have to be to tell your prisoner
Hey, you know what? You can reject things ever happening! Wow, I know, isn't it awesome? And that's not all, no! I also have a secret device right here, take a good look, right, and you will be its maintenance team, using your cool powers that I just told you about on it!
... and then actually be surprised if it goes against him?
It's just too easy for Bleach, and too easy for Kubo.
Inoue will suprise Aizen but not by doing anything to the Hougyoku. She's gonna do something totally unexpected and suprise everyone (except me:D)
yanniv
07-29-2007, 11:36 PM
Gonna be bias first and say no one, gonna be realistic second and say Ichigo....:p
I don't consider that bias at all. Aizen doesn't look like the character to be impressed by anyone other than himself.
Shinrin
07-29-2007, 11:45 PM
No matter how many times i try i just have a hard time thinking of Aizen loosing his cool.
Seeing an angry Aizen shouting and curse... I just don't know, since this would be the traditional end of a bad guy... Yet again Aizen not as typical a bad guy as some might think, mayby he might not loss his cool.
Yet again Im not sure how much Ichigo will supprise Aizen, perhaps Aizen know more about Ichigo then Ichigo does himself, yet currently he just havn't finished the pusle.
Maybe Urahara?
But it's still too early..
I don't expect this to happens, until.. let's say, 200+ chapters.. XD
Velius
07-30-2007, 12:41 AM
200+ chapter till Aizen is surprised by something or till he meets Urahara? XDD
I really don't hope it's that long. If it is, it should be the end the of the series. Which I guess would be fitting, given that's it's AIZEN. :nuts
Griffith
07-30-2007, 03:23 AM
Urahara or Shinji why? because they reek with awesomeness..
LiquidTheBrit
07-30-2007, 03:32 AM
Personally, I think that Aizen would try hard not to let the enemy get the satisfaction of seeing him surprised.
Then again, I'm not the one who created Aizen, so I don't know him well. =/
Agmaster
07-30-2007, 03:38 AM
Aizen's gloating and Shinji walks up and pats him on the back. And then walks away..on the ceiling.
Jhaxe
07-30-2007, 03:51 AM
Aizen's gloating and Shinji walks up and pats him on the back. And then walks away..on the ceiling.
You just won the thread.
On topic- I still Gin will surprise him. Just because Gin can surprise anyone =P
Sergelia
07-30-2007, 10:27 AM
I don't expect Aizen to have a pathetic end, mind you. He's too cool of a villain for that. >.< I don't think he'd 'lose his cool', just be *surprised*. Surprise /=/ Going around screaming 'IMPOSSIBLE! I cannot lose! :nuts'
Aizen has already been somewhat suprised:eek:
In vol 20 (chap 175) when Aizen is on his rant about his plan he was kinda suprised to hear that Ichigo and co. didn't come to the SS to get Rukia under urahara's orders. He thought they worked for Urahara. It wasn't big but he was suprised, so the answer to this question is...... Ichigo.
Lastier
07-30-2007, 03:42 PM
Ulquiorra, when he is about to make a striptease in front of Aizen.
Szayel, when he is about to make a striptease in front of Aizen.
QFT :yell :yell
Lastier, you are so correct :yay :yay
Szayel will do a striptease in front of Aizen getting rid of that awesome cool and stylish stretchy stretchy skirt first and foremost. :inlove :inlove
Sergelia
07-30-2007, 04:26 PM
:rotflmao
You guys are just... xD
But, as a member of both Ulquiorra FC and UlquiOri FC, I'll have to defend his honor and say; Damn you, he's not going to perform striptease in front of ANYONE save for Inoue Orihime, in their bedroom. :yell
And Rain, you're right... o__O I didn't remember that. Ah well, I guess this thread is pretty much pointless then... and there I thought I was being smart.
Jhaxe
07-30-2007, 04:59 PM
Well, I wouldn't count that as an actual 'surprise' It was more like mild interest. When ya' say surprise, I picture like uber wide eyes, ya' know the "WTFHOMG That did NOT just happen!!!" eyes =D
Sergelia
07-30-2007, 05:06 PM
Ah, well, in that case, the answer is just "NO".
Wide eyes + Aizen = OOC.
:I'd love to see Aizen with an expression like Enel's or Perona's from One Piece. Hopefully some of you know what I'm talking about.:)
Siren
07-30-2007, 07:35 PM
QFT :yell :yell
Lastier, you are so correct :yay :yay
Szayel will do a striptease in front of Aizen getting rid of that awesome cool and stylish stretchy stretchy skirt first and foremost. :inlove :inlove
Haaha :rotflmao You win my vote!!!
Anyways, I would have to go the predictable route and say: Gin.
Lastier
07-30-2007, 09:06 PM
QFT :yell :yell
Lastier, you are so correct :yay :yay
Szayel will do a striptease in front of Aizen getting rid of that awesome cool and stylish stretchy stretchy skirt first and foremost. :inlove :inlove
He already did a free striptease for Ishida, Renji and the fangirls. >:
phantomfork
07-30-2007, 10:51 PM
:I'd love to see Aizen with an expression like Enel's or Perona's from One Piece. Hopefully some of you know what I'm talking about.
Ah t'wood be poetic justice. :D
Hmm, but would it really happen? Don't know, maybe Shinji or some unknown character yet to be revealed. Isshin would also be a good candidate.
zukomyprince
07-31-2007, 03:04 AM
Aizen.....surprised....not gonna happen...he demenor is icy cold
but a raised eyebrow at an unexpected turn of events...now that might happen...and i would lay odds that Gin would somehow be involved
Lady Scaper
07-31-2007, 04:59 AM
I hope Aizen gets surprised. Maybe when they succesfully get Orihime back he will be in for the shock of his life!!!!
furato
08-04-2007, 07:47 PM
:I'd love to see Aizen with an expression like Enel's or Perona's from One Piece. Hopefully some of you know what I'm talking about.:)
Nah, I don't think Kubo has the balls to uglify his characters that much :D
As for Aizen... I would like it to be Hinamori, when she delivers the finishing stab. GO poetic justice!
Yamato
08-04-2007, 08:06 PM
One does not surpise Aizen.
edtide25
08-05-2007, 05:13 AM
The answer is Captian Commander Yammato's final release. :D
Agmaster
08-05-2007, 12:25 PM
You know, I would laugh if after all this plotting and scheming, the old man did just roll up kill a few (hundred) Arrancar and look at Aizen.
"Your ambition is noted, your skill recognized, your power accepted, but still, you must realize the difference between us..." And draws his sword evaporating any hypnosis Aizen does. "Do not insult both of us with mere tricks. By all means, attempt to strike me down so that I may defeat you in the name of the Gotei 13 and Soul Society. I have a tea appointment I would rather not miss, so please do not waste my time. I like to keep a schedule after all."
Agmaster- That would fantastic to see
Lilium
08-06-2007, 12:38 PM
the fangirl in me wants it to be urahara lol...
Velius
08-08-2007, 05:23 PM
I honestly think Urahara is the leading candidate given their history. Everyone else just seems have such a distant relationship with Aizen, they don't really seem to make sense. It's Urahara followed by Gin and Tousen. :D
Dizzy
08-08-2007, 06:16 PM
The only person who can surprise Aizen is Aizen himself.
Desan
12-11-2007, 04:12 AM
I believe both will betray him in due time...
How about not one-lining? add text as to why.
Riekie
Jaina
12-11-2007, 04:20 AM
I don't particularly think either of them would, but I would never choose Tousen. He's a zealot for justice who threw everything in his life away to follow Aizen's path. Sure, Gin did too, but I believe that the difference is Tousen actually valued what he had. He HAS to keep believing in Aizen's path at all costs or it shakes his entire reality, basically.
Ileenka
12-11-2007, 07:48 AM
Aizen's okasan (yet to be shown in the flesh or via flashback).
This way, Ichigo and Aizen will finally have a reason to be connected emotionally at some point. One fights to kill. The other fights to protect. :nuts
Schneider
12-11-2007, 07:56 AM
Hrm...first person to surprise Aizen will be Ulquiorra. I only say that because he seems really loyal so, IF he ever betrays Aizen it will be a shock. If there was a betrayal elsewhere i think Aizen would see it coming....
For example
Grimmjaw - he already does pretty much whatever he feels like
Orihime - she's a captive so he can't expect her to be too loyal
Riekie
12-11-2007, 10:35 AM
Please guys stop the one-lining in every thread and add something to your post okay? It's not that hard to come up with reasons WHY you think someone will surprise/betray Aizen.
Riekie
Inevitable.Exit
12-11-2007, 01:58 PM
Yama. I think Yama and Aizen will have a showdown with Yama failing to kill Aizen but getting close. It hypes Aizen even more.
The only downside to that is Aizen would have to use his bankai or Yama would not get the hype he deserves. And that would kind of kill the Aizen/Ichigo surprise factor.
If it is not Yama I will go with Urahara....Because it seems logical?
I really don't want Aizen to get one legit fight in Bleach. That would be horrible. Especially since he has curbstomped everyone he has fought thusfar.
ZoneGhost
12-11-2007, 10:18 PM
Hmm,
I'm gonna go with Isshin being the first person to surprise Aizen simply because of his being alive. I am fairly certain that Isshin, and maybe Ryuuken, are the wild cards in the pack (as it were) which can't be anticipated.
I believe it's uruhara too (agree with velius ^^) no one can compete aizen's level except uruhara…i think he has many hidden and dangerous techniques..he's the one who invented the houguko (not sure about the spelling)after all :)
Ileenka..I laughed to death at your post :roflaizen's mother..i bet she's beautiful too :D
tari101190
12-11-2007, 10:56 PM
i doubt any1 will 'suprise' aizen.
he knows the powerelevels of all the good guys. nobody is ggonna get a powerup that will take them from captain level to 2x captain level. thats stupid.
i think there are characters near that level already. olnly yamamoto, with shunsui and ukitake just beind a bit. i doubt any1 else is that powerful.
even then, they won't suprise him cos he knows howstrongthey are.
and besides, we know aizens personality and stuff. he doesn't seem like the type who would be suprised that easiliy, regardless of what happens...
i just see aizen ever reaching that point.
urahara is not aizens level. we would've seen it by now.
ulquiorra easily deflected his attack. which was equal-ish to yammys cero.
he would'vewhipe out yammy so easily in their second fight if he was aizen level.
and he sealedthe hogyoku when he made, i dn't thinkhes a vizard.
i understand that urahra seemslike he could be aizen level cos hes the mytsterious guy, but thats not gonna happen. it was already revealed he's captain level, thats was the suprise. thats enough. it wouldn't make sense to say he's a captain, show him being olny captain level, the out of nowhere show that hes 2x captain level and as strong as aizen. that wouldn't really be cool at all...
I think there's more things about uruhara…we don't even know his exact purpose of all this..and we still haven't seen his bankai yet so I doubt he's in the same captain's level.. we'll see in the future anyway..
Inevitable.Exit
12-11-2007, 11:32 PM
i think there are characters near that level already. olnly yamamoto, with shunsui and ukitake just beind a bit. i doubt any1 else is that powerful.
I would disagree. I def think at least Shinji and possibly one other Vaizard are on there levels. But we prob will not know for a long time since there is not really a reason for them to get involved at the time. But if we had some measuring stick like in DBZ I def think at least Shinji is on par with some of the stronger characters.
I mean think about it, we still don't know if the vaizards, being former shinigami, have shikai, bankai etc. And we do not know the full extent of their hollow powers either.
cheez
12-11-2007, 11:33 PM
I think it will be Ichigo or Orihime that will surprise Aizen. They seem to have the most potential power out of anybody but neither of them are capable of reliably harnessing their power yet. They also among the most resistant characters to deal the finishing blow. Because of these two reasons it is easy for some one of Aizens power to look down on these two despite their incredible potential. I think the surprise for Aizen will not be their power but the fact that they finally harnessed it and he never noticed.
Miyona
12-12-2007, 02:36 AM
I think that Ichigo will suprise him somehow, when Aizen figures out just how strong his hollow is.
Or...Aizen could first be suprised when his maid forgets to heat up his tea >_>
cheez
12-12-2007, 04:30 AM
Aizen has probably hypnotized his maid so that she never forgets to heat up his tea :)
I personality don't think the vizards will surprise Aizen because if they know about his planes chances are Aizen knows about them. And I don't think anybody in SS will really surprise Aizen because he has had ample time to gather data on them with out looking suspicious. For the reasons I stated above I think it will be either Ichigo or Orihime to surprise Aizen first.
tari101190
12-12-2007, 05:37 AM
I think there's more things about uruhara…we don't even know his exact purpose of all this..and we still haven't seen his bankai yet so I doubt he's in the same captain's level.. we'll see in the future anyway..just because we havn't seen his bankai yet, doesn't make him 2x captain level. we havn't seen halfthe captains bankai either remember. i dn't get how that makes him strong...
I would disagree. I def think at least Shinji and possibly one other Vaizard are on there levels. But we prob will not know for a long time since there is not really a reason for them to get involved at the time. But if we had some measuring stick like in DBZ I def think at least Shinji is on par with some of the stronger characters.shiniji is on par with the strongre characters. the captains. practically nobody is 2x that level. maybe you dn't understand just how powerful these guys are...
if shiniji ended being on par with aizen ater the performance he gave last time, that wouldn't really make sense.
I mean think about it, we still don't know if the vaizards, being former shinigami, have shikai, bankai etc. And we do not know the full extent of their hollow powers either.
this makes no sense. ichigo has bankai and hollow powers. he's not 2x captain level. he's just a bit more powerful than b4.
bankai level basically is captain level so it really doesn't matter whether they have shikai/bankai or not. we saw shinji fight grimmjow. he did exactly the same against him as ichigo.
the other vizards were havin trouble against ichigo when he turned into a hollow. ifthey were 2x captain level then they would'nt have had hard times. they'd be able to stop him wi th one finger like aizen.
hiyori had a hard time, so did lisa, she even said he could've killed her, love had a hard time. the only other ones that didn't fight, why would they be 2x captain level while the others won't.
shunsui and ukitake were said to be the most powerful captains already. plus they were the very first captains. all the other came much later on and weren't even the first ones. yamamoto could easily take on shunsui and uiktake in a fight, and still look ok. he probably is 2x captain level, with those 2 just behind.
Innerakuma
12-12-2007, 09:18 AM
Im gonna say Isshin . But im gonna go on a bit of a tangent and say that he kills isshin ... wich gives Ichigo his needed resolve. He wont be able to die after that because he has sisters to protect.
Also i think its possible .. not likly but possible that we will be the ones suprised by urahara.. i have a sneaky suspision.
Well, it's not gonna be any of the captains, as Aizen knows them well, and probably not gonna be urahara and yurachi too, cos Aizen is also familiar with them. I'm gonna go with issin and/or ishida's dad, as those two are people with great power and very well hidden from Aizen.
And then of course, it will be Ichigo and co. suprise Aizen in the very end, as you would.
juciu
12-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Hrm...first person to surprise Aizen will be Ulquiorra. I only say that because he seems really loyal so, IF he ever betrays Aizen it will be a shock. If there was a betrayal elsewhere i think Aizen would see it coming....
For example
Grimmjaw - he already does pretty much whatever he feels like
Orihime - she's a captive so he can't expect her to be too loyal
I soo agree :-D
I also think, that Gin would be another nice bet on who will betray Aizen first. It's just cause, I really can't understand why he betrayed SS in the first place. It can be that he did not actually join with Aizen because he agrees with his ways but because it seemed like the best thing to do in that position ( or perhaps because he loaths SS, I dunno). Anyway I think that has a rather capricious nature, so I can expect *anything* from him :-)))
maybe it's when Aizen finds out that the King's dimension is the place Ichigo keeps going to when he needs more power. the place where all the skyscrapers are sideways. i'm half joking here. i just thought of it since hollow ichigo said that there is a king and a horse when he was talking about controlling ichigo's body. did he really say king in his metaphor or was something lost in translation?
cool_inuyasha_g
12-14-2007, 07:27 PM
Hmmm, Aizen's a smart guy, correction, Aizen is a freaking genius of a smart guy. Ichigo won't be the first to surprise, he's not smart enough. I'd say probably Ichimaru, Yama-ji or one of the Espada. Hitsugaya hates Aizen so he won't do anything smart and Byakuya's....uh, well you know. Everyone else is just stupid or a jerk. However, I'm sure Aizen knows full well as the status of his 9th (dead), 6th (traitor...sorta), 4th(where is he anyway?), 7th (dead) and 8th espada (Almost dead...Zael's not dead, Yay!) and the fact that Orihime is not in her cell anymore (man is he lazy or what?) and that the shinigami are in Huedo Mundo.
Higasino Isley
12-17-2007, 04:24 PM
to suprise Aizen-sama,eh?!It's impossible. :)
btw maybe that person would be Ichimaru,he will try to betray Aizen-sama.Ichimaru is the most mysterious man,we are sure of nothing about him yet.
kimmie_chan
12-18-2007, 06:44 PM
For some reason I think It'll be Tousen O.o I'm really not sure why, but there's something more about him than whats shown.
But then again, maybe Ichigo will show up in Vaizard mode and Aizen will see just how stronge he is and be shocked. I don't know... but it's between them two characters for me.
Higasino Isley
12-18-2007, 07:04 PM
For some reason I think It'll be Tousen O.o I'm really not sure why, but there's something more about him than whats shown.
Tousen,eh?:eek:
Kaname does everything for the sake of Aizen-sama.:)
If he betrayed Aizen-sama,I would be surprised very much.
He is a "knight of justice"-like man,i don't believe,that he will do an evil thing.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree.:)
kitty868theonly
12-18-2007, 07:09 PM
I would say....
1) Gin
2) Orihime (just maybe)
3) Touzen
4) Ulquiorra (BIG maybe)
5) Some other Arrancar that SEEM/ARE loyal to Aizen.
And those are my guesses- in that order.... I think I missed one person.... Maybe Isshin....? I'm not sure- he hasn't even surprised Ichigo yet that he is a Shinigami (former or whatnot). :p
jiang
12-29-2007, 10:42 PM
:D Obviously it'll be Kyouka Suigetsu that gets the jump on Aizen...
:x but even if anyone ever surprises Aizen he'll just hide it and be like "ZOMGWTFLESJGAJBBBQQQQQQ" inside... D: That's what I think!
beautiful_death
12-30-2007, 01:49 AM
Gin Ichimaru, because he just seems like he's going along with whatever. I bet you, if Rangiku showed up in HM for any reason, he would betray Aizen just for her. XD *crosses fingers*
Vizard_King
12-30-2007, 01:53 AM
Uryuu.
He's getting more powerful every time. Aizen even sent that Incomplete Arrancar to kill him when he had no powers.
Uryuu might be one of a few people Aizen is really worried about
casin
01-02-2008, 08:59 PM
I think Ichimaru has a higher chance of betraying Aizen than Tousen does. I really only think that because of his apology to Matsumoto though...
Wouldn't it be funny if Hinamori was the one to surprise Aizen? I don't think it could ever happen but it would be awesome if she just pops up and defeats him at the very end..
Hyakkimaru Hiro
01-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Sado Yasutora, believe it. :yell
Megaharrison
01-08-2008, 11:35 PM
Kenpachi ftw. He was the only SS captain able to tell something was off with Tousen and Ichimaru (chapter 60ish I believe). The outspoken genius of the Bleach world.
Griffith
01-09-2008, 07:37 AM
I don't think anyone will surprise Aizen, i think he is someone who will understand the strengths and weaknesses of anyone he faces. I could see him not being surprised that Urahara puts up a good fight against him.
Velius
04-14-2008, 04:04 AM
HIRAKO SHINJI.
That is all.
btw, the title will be changed to: Who will be the last person to surprise Aizen. :rofl
~Vizard/Espada~
04-14-2008, 05:03 AM
I say Gin...right after he successfully betrays/overthrows Aizen.
This would be cool if it happened. I would be sad through because I love Aizen and Gin.
Fortunate
04-14-2008, 06:01 AM
I say Gin...right after he successfully betrays/overthrows Aizen.
This! Oh Please This!! :wha
EX|pada #0
04-14-2008, 06:42 AM
I think Gin. He's not the kind of guy who accepts being a subordinate that way.
Maianarisa
04-14-2008, 06:47 AM
HIRAKO SHINJI.
That is all.
btw, the title will be changed to: Who will be the last person to surprise Aizen. :rofl
It should. :rotflmao
I have one who could surprise Aizen...
HIKIFUNE!!! :yell
spacecat
04-14-2008, 09:57 AM
From the first we saw though wasn't it Shunsui, when he mentioned the Royal Guard :p Meh I think he has been surprised many times, sort of a stupid question really :headscratch
In regards to the future though...
I don't think anyone will surprise Aizen, i think he is someone who will understand the strengths and weaknesses of anyone he faces. I could see him not being surprised that Urahara puts up a good fight against him.
QFT
blackluster
04-14-2008, 02:03 PM
The first person who beats his shikai. His overconfidence makes me think that it hasn't happened yet. I'll laugh if Mayuri bakes up some tech that defeats it, since he knows about it now.
he will be suprised by some1 like kon or don kanonji, he will be suprised how stupid they can be.
BioBomber
04-14-2008, 05:00 PM
Aizen got quite a shock when he heard about the Zero Division...
That fact interests me, actually because it makes me wonder how long Aizen has been plotting for. I think that Urahara probably sped along Aizen's research on creating a hybridized Hollow, just from seeing the man work. But back to the point, it seems that Aizen's early life in Soul Society was a rather ignorant one. Unless he was just feigning surprise to cover his arse.
Tomodachi69
04-14-2008, 05:30 PM
Aizen's father as the king of heaven .__.
Aizen will be all, 'lolwut?!' before he gets a spanking from dad :fu
Darkhole
04-14-2008, 10:08 PM
I'd have to say Orihime would surprise him. I don't think it'll be anyone close to him like Gin or Tousen because Aizen probably understands them better than they understand themselves, that's why he probably chose them. And I don't think it'll be anyone of the powerful characters like Urahara, Isshin, Ichigo, etc. Aizen is probably calculating every move they can make and is ready for them. I think it'll be someone Aizen doesn't consider much of a thread, like Orihime.
Like a few other people mentioned. I'm a big Aizen fan and I think Aizen's just too badass to go out like any normal villain. End the end, I just can't imagine him being surprised. I'd luv for him to go out like Makoto Shishio from Rurouni Kenshin with that mad insane laugh. Even though that's unlike his character so far, I think it would be sweet. But I want him to die fighting like 4 or 5 captain class characters at once, that would just be sick!
i doubt any1 will 'suprise' aizen.
he knows the powerelevels of all the good guys. nobody is ggonna get a powerup that will take them from captain level to 2x captain level. thats stupid.
i think there are characters near that level already. olnly yamamoto, with shunsui and ukitake just beind a bit. i doubt any1 else is that powerful.
even then, they won't suprise him cos he knows howstrongthey are.
and besides, we know aizens personality and stuff. he doesn't seem like the type who would be suprised that easiliy, regardless of what happens...
i just see aizen ever reaching that point.
urahara is not aizens level. we would've seen it by now.
ulquiorra easily deflected his attack. which was equal-ish to yammys cero.
he would'vewhipe out yammy so easily in their second fight if he was aizen level.
and he sealedthe hogyoku when he made, i dn't thinkhes a vizard.
i understand that urahra seemslike he could be aizen level cos hes the mytsterious guy, but thats not gonna happen. it was already revealed he's captain level, thats was the suprise. thats enough. it wouldn't make sense to say he's a captain, show him being olny captain level, the out of nowhere show that hes 2x captain level and as strong as aizen. that wouldn't really be cool at all...
Yeah, I would have to agree. I started having my doubts about Urahara's power when Ulquiorra blocked what was Urahara's "Shikai" with ease. I was like, "damn", if Ulquiorra can downplay Urahara's shikai that easily then imagine what Aizen would do to it? Urahara told Yammy that he had countered Yammy's cero with a similar attack, then went on to say that attack was his shikai. So if Urahara himself has stated that his shikai is similar to a cero, then I'm guessing his bankai is just some Grand Rey Cero? Which is why it wouldn't be suited for training, because it's just a monster energy blast and someone like Renji or Chad(Whoever Urahara was talking to) would just be destroyed.
Also, Urahara's smart scientifically, but so far in the series Aizen has outsmarted him strategically. Urahara knew someone was after the hougyokou when Rukia was captured and sent to be executed, Urahara came up with a plan and what happened, Aizen still got the hougyokou. So anyway, point is, I don't think Urahara will be the 1 to surprise Aizen, if Aizen is ever surprised.
Aizen Sousuke
04-14-2008, 11:28 PM
I think Shinji has already surprised him, but this was 110 years before present time :)
For present time, I can't imagine anyone being ahead of Aizen in plotting. Even when Soul Society thinks they are tricking Aizen, Aizen has already accounted for it in his plan, needed them do what they did, or adjusts as if it was nothing.
cool_inuyasha_g
04-15-2008, 01:13 AM
Yeah, but 110 years ago he was pretending to be good so him being surprised then doesn't count (Although it was funny to see since we know what he's like.) I honestly can't see anyone surprising Aizen he is such a freakin genius. I honestly can't think of anything, someone will eventually and it will probably be Ichigo sicne he's the main character but considering how Bleach doesn't let the main character win all the time (Ulquiorra, Aizen and Nnoitra, Zaraki was technally a draw) and its full of surprises it wouldn't surprise me if Ichigo (the idiot) didn't surprise Aizen.
katen kyoukotsu
04-20-2008, 07:14 PM
IMO the Big 3.
Aizen: Kill them, my Espada.
However the espada got spanked by Yama, Shunsui and Ukitake. Much to Aizen's disbelief.
Aizen: Since when you're so strong bastards?!
Yama: Since you were still in your momma's womb, noob.
lol, I'd pay to see that
ZoneGhost
04-21-2008, 10:08 AM
Actually.. thinking about it, Aizen was surprised that Unohana worked out his body was fake so.. yeah
Agmaster
04-21-2008, 02:13 PM
Aizen's gloating and Shinji walks up and pats him on the back. And then walks away..on the ceiling.
Change that to Aizen's spying and Shinji walks up and tears him into the sight of everyone. Then walks away nonchalantly and you really could say that I won the thread.
elmo11
04-22-2008, 04:19 PM
Change that to Aizen's spying and Shinji walks up and tears him into the sight of everyone. Then walks away nonchalantly and you really could say that I won the thread.
touche Agmaster
sparticus
04-22-2008, 04:29 PM
I've gotta throw my vote in with Isshin - 'cause that's just how Isshin rolls! XD
Isshin: Good morning!! Soooouuuusskeeeee!!! *goes bankai on his ass*
Aizen: OMGWTFISSHIN!?!?!?!?!? O.o
Rukia: XD WIN!
Ichigo: Okay, that IS funny when it's happening to someone else. X)
Everyone else: Lolwut?
spacecat
04-22-2008, 05:40 PM
Nup Ag sorry, if we are going to take it literally the earliest surprise is Shunsui with the squad zero comment xD
Agmaster
04-23-2008, 04:37 PM
GTFO my thread, spam poster.
spacecat
04-23-2008, 04:46 PM
Take it like a man AG :p
ChukoLiang
04-24-2008, 11:52 PM
I think Isshin or Urahara will give Aizen a good shock on something
Zorko
04-28-2008, 01:48 PM
I think that Shinji would.
and then vaizard fights both arrancar and shinigami :D
I'll roll my dice hoping it lands on Urahara or Shinji :D
Ashido
04-28-2008, 09:32 PM
I think Shinji or Urahara,maybe Isshin too.
thewizardninja
05-06-2008, 11:47 AM
I was toying with Inoue NOT destoying the Hogyouku (let's face it, we know Aizen wants it to happen), but I figured that wouldn't suprise him rather it would just annoy him greatly. If she refused he'd just be like "I see" and stab her, maybe play mind games with her afterwards saying he could 'save' her if she did as he said. Great way for her to die though.
Still, I think that Aizen was suprised when he came to destroy Karakura and found it to be a fake. It didn't really phase him, but you could tell he didn't see it coming.
Grey1x
05-06-2008, 12:11 PM
I have all my money on Orihime.
Aizen so far is underestimating her intelligence, thinking his mind games will fool her forever. She is no dumb and is, so far, the character with the most relationship with Aizen (not including the 100 years before chapters)
Agmaster
05-06-2008, 01:34 PM
I have all my money on Orihime.
Aizen so far is underestimating her intelligence, thinking his mind games will fool her forever. She is no dumb and is, so far, the character with the most relationship with Aizen (not including the 100 years before chapters)
I mean....can you really blame him? What evidence exists to prove she is barely more than an emotional person lacking resolve who just happened to be gifted with a power far beyond her subconcious grasp? Do you not recall the beginning of Part 3 of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? Holly was much the same way.
Only real difference is, Orihime would have to try and harm herself with that power, Holly's did so automatically as it's master had no fighting spirit.
sir wilham
05-06-2008, 03:54 PM
Isshin. He is such an unknown entity right now and if he showed up to slap around some Arrancers and challenge Aizen it would without a doubt surprise Aizen.
Nagato
05-06-2008, 07:42 PM
hi,
i doubt that it would be urahara because aizen know what kind of a genius he is and shinji was his former captain so he should know first that he is alive and second if he has s.th to do with his banishment that he would work against him and how powerful(maybe with vaizard-form)he is.
either it could be isshin or ichigo.
the point about inoue i think aizen knows that she intend to destroy the Hogyouku.all the time aizen always is one or two step further than the rest so it must be s.o he doesnt know or s.o who is the different from the rest.
thewizardninja
05-07-2008, 12:50 AM
I mean....can you really blame him? What evidence exists to prove she is barely more than an emotional person lacking resolve who just happened to be gifted with a power far beyond her subconcious grasp?
I guess Aizen never would have thought to check her report card :p
Agmaster
05-13-2008, 03:02 PM
Being smart in school eqautes to fighting spirit?
shinigamimaster
05-14-2008, 12:53 AM
I think there will be some guys who were lost for a hundred of years then comes back for a payback to Aizen.
Maybe it would be the Vizards. Like Shinji and Kensei.
rvngu
05-17-2008, 12:03 AM
i think shinji will surprise aizen. maybe yamamoto if they fight. i'm under the impression that yamamoto is not under the influence of aizen`s shikai because he always his eyes closed.
mebidtt13
05-17-2008, 01:16 PM
Gin! As silhouette said.
(http://www.bleachasylum.com/member.php?u=324)
Revan1990
05-17-2008, 02:31 PM
I think it will be Shinji, like Aizen is using his Shikai on Ichigo and his friends, then Shinji passes buy and destroys it without any problem(Shinji:You're still that weak, Sousuke?)
yeah that would be a great scene...
but I think nobody can surprise AIzen, cuz Aizen has planned everything, if he dies at the end of Bleach because Ichigo kills him, it would be like
Aizen: "Yeah I planned all this, I just wanted to make you stronger, because there is another enemy you have to beat..." and so on
i'm under the impression that yamamoto is not under the influence of aizen`s shikai because he always his eyes closed.
LOL
that's a great theory^^
thewizardninja
05-18-2008, 12:39 PM
i think shinji will surprise aizen. maybe yamamoto if they fight. i'm under the impression that yamamoto is not under the influence of aizen`s shikai because he always his eyes closed.
Well maybe that's why Gin always has HIS eyes closed?
BigBadBuu
05-18-2008, 01:48 PM
Royal Guard.
The mention of their existence shocked noob Aizen.
As promoted captains, I'd expect them to be at/around Sou-taicho level
If they're the ones behind hybrids, et al Aizen's going to be in for a *nasty* surprise...
rvngu
06-06-2008, 02:30 PM
wow it looks aizen was surprised at urahara's attack in the flashback. he's the first!!!! go kisuke lol
wow it looks aizen was surprised at urahara's attack in the flashback. he's the first!!!! go kisuke lol
I thought the same and also mentioned at the spoiler thread, i think we've never seen Aizen wearing that startled expression on his face yet. :lmao
rvngu
06-06-2008, 03:48 PM
hehe indeed indeed, and i don't think we'll ever see it again. maybe if urahara vs aizen in the present time.
spacecat
06-06-2008, 07:51 PM
Wait...if Aizen was surprised by Shunsui and then Shinji, how can Urahara be the first? Everytime Aizen pulls that face now is someone gonna revive this thread? :lmao
ZOMG
http://i29.tinypic.com/e8a0py.png
.access timeco.
06-06-2008, 09:35 PM
I believe Aizen was pretty surprised when a doctor took him out of his mother uterus and slapped his butt vigorously. I mean... c'mon, he just couldn't see that coming!
So, first person found.
Wait...if Aizen was surprised by Shunsui and then Shinji, how can Urahara be the first? Everytime Aizen pulls that face now is someone gonna revive this thread? :lmao
ZOMG
http://i29.tinypic.com/e8a0py.png
Isn't that the 'fake' aizen guy?, it's not the Aizen on his ultra evil state getting startled like at the Urahara scene. :lmao
tari101190
06-06-2008, 10:01 PM
:um
erm...i guess i was wrong.
urahara was the first to suprise aizen.
we were meant to talk about him being suprised in the context of a fight obviously...not just suprised at random stuff duh...*cough*spacecat*cough*
Isn't that the 'fake' aizen guy?, it's not the Aizen on his ultra evil state getting startled like at the Urahara scene. :lmao
no...jeez louise...
:fpalm
that was 109 years ago. aizen said he's only been using the bald guy for one month, 101 years ago. so that was aizen suprised at what shunsui said.
spacecat
06-07-2008, 09:30 AM
:um
erm...i guess i was wrong.
urahara was the first to suprise aizen.
we were meant to talk about him being suprised in the context of a fight obviously...not just suprised at random stuff duh...*cough*spacecat*cough*
no...jeez louise...
:fpalm
that was 109 years ago. aizen said he's only been using the bald guy for one month, 101 years ago. so that was aizen suprised at what shunsui said.
No actually the thread maker told me any kind of surprise cos i asked him a few weeks ago ;) So Shunsui wins still :lmao
And yes that was Aizen with Shunsui...he said the last month he had that guy following Shinji there was a time skip of like 10 years or something after the chapters of Urahara becomming captain. This thread seems kinda pointless now anyways.
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