♥ Nell Tu FC ♥

[Arrancar_Fan]

lolz, its more then obviouse whos ur fave male :D!!! unofficial welcome!! thxs for joinin' ^^

[Ninatina]

this is my fav pic of nel I have ever seen its so funny.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/sasorixd99/kdla.jpg

Aww! That's so cute XD

Welcome to the FC Aizen Sousuke. Enjoy it here :D

[Aizen Sousuke]

I suppose most of you guys have seem this already, but credit to Miranu for coloring an amazing picture of everyones favorite girl!

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/395/1189935375686pg1.jpg

[Melodymix]

Welcome to the FC Aizen Sousuke :D Thanks for joining ^^

And no matter how many time I see that pic Nel looks awesome! :inlove

[Vizard_King]

Ok, guys. I dunno if any one has asked this yet but
When do you all think Nell-chan well be able to become her True Self again and well it be permenent?

I for one think it well happen rather soon. Maybe if they can find a way out of the Fortress and into the "Town" that the Captains created. I think once she is in her Adult Body it well be permenent

[Mars]

Maybe she keeps on switching forms, to whatever situation fits her.

Welcome btw, Aizen ;) Nice pic, must be Nell's most famous one

[Aizen Sousuke]

I was hoping that Orihime would reject Nell back to her state before the incident with Nnoitra, which would mend her scar and mask, as well as keep her in a permanent adult state. However, Orihime wasn't able to do this.

I think Nell may be able to switch between forms, but her body cannot handle her reiatsu in the state that she is in, so that she will have a limited time in her true form before she reverts back, just like Nnoitra. Szayel did say that she reverted to a child in the first place because of the reiatsu she was leaking out. Most likely, she'll be able to power up, transform, and eventually lose control until Orihime is able to 'reject' her back to normal.

Nell DOES have her memory back though, so some interesting developments can occur.

[Arrancar_Fan]

maybe nell could train to stay in her adult state once things have calmed down (whenever that is >.>). for now, i think she'll be just switched from state to state depending on her emotions (thats sounds familiar....)

i keep forgetting that Orihime's powers are to reverse time, not healing :p:p now i no y i was so confused my ur first paragraph Aizen-san ^_^''''

[Aizen Sousuke]

Well... I'm not so sure the can train for it. Dondo and Pesshe had their masks ripped off, and reverted from Arrancar to Hollow. So.. with Nell sustaining a huge crack in her mask, her power is going to be limited in some kind of way.

[stark espada]

melod-I agree its so funny the reaction by Nnoitora makes it even better of a pic.

[Arrancar_Fan]

i dont no. maybe the shinigami or Ichi could help her control her reisitsu so she dosn't change at random times :rolleyes:

[mitzibe]

i like neliel
she's sexy
may i join

[Arrancar_Fan]

......unofficial welcome again :XD!!! damn ur going everywhere :p:p!!!

[Melodymix]

Welcome to the FC mitzibe :D

When do you all think Nell-chan well be able to become her True Self again and well it be permenent?

Soon I hope. Cause if she switches back that means she's in a batlle :inlove

But if that happpens I'll sure miss child Nel, the cute and innocent looking one :XD

[stark espada]

mitzibe

I would still like to see child nel turn into her release form like that pic it would be so great. But to see nel again would be great in any way.

[Soranushi]

When do you all think Nell-chan well be able to become her True Self again and well it be permanent?

I think it'll happen during the UlquiorraVsIchigo fight or when they regroup and encounter a new enemy thats if she doesn't watch the battle. However if she does watch the battle it'll be like the last time but kinda different as in this time she'll yell, and will be about to help but Ichigo wakes up and stops her from fighting. I guess what I'm saying is he'll get his resolve boost from her this time but with out a doubt if many people are their watching then it'll be from everyone but mainly Nel.

Permanent I dont know because its seems like this might be something that happens to her when she runs out of Reiryoku that hasn't been explained yet. So even if her mask&scar do get healed/repaired I think she'll randomly or willfully be able to transform back and forth between her Adult&Chibi forms.

You know I post here alot hmmm well I suppose its because she's one of my favorite charactersso may I join the club

[Mars]

When do you all think Nell-chan well be able to become her True Self again and well it be permanent?


I hope soon as well, as her being espada nr. 3, her fighting skills are awesome :cool:

Besides, if we wanna have cuteness, there's always inoue or someone else..

[Aizen Sousuke]

Nell won't be able to fight at her true potential until her mask is fully repaired. I think the crack is symbolic of the damage done to her soul.

[Hiraga]

Welcome to the FC, mitzibe! :hug

When do you all think Nell-chan well be able to become her True Self again and well it be permenent?

I think she will return to her original form when she sense that Ichigo is fighting with Ulqui... And I think it will be permanent :D

[Aizen Sousuke]

I think she would be able to maintain her adult form if she didn't fight, but if she was forced to exert reiatsu and possibly release, then the same thing will happen again, unless her mask gets fixed.

[Melodymix]

Nell won't be able to fight at her true potential until her mask is fully repaired. I think the crack is symbolic of the damage done to her soul.

Yeah, I also think the same thing and thought maybe Orihime would be able to heal her mask fully. Then we can get to see the adult form of her in action >.<

[Aizen Sousuke]

We have to hope that her mask hindered her fighting ability and kept her from fighting at her full potential. Otherwise, it would mean that Nnoitra surpassed her, which would be a huge bummer. It would also leave her character out of a decent fighting role in Bleach. I'd rather her be useful then just a comic-relief type.

[Ninatina]

Agree Aizen Sousuke and i do think the mask did indeed affected her fight. But to me Nel is already a very strong useful character ^^ She protected Ichigo and battled Nnoitra. And I'm sure there are more battles ahead of her :D

[Mars]

I agree and hope the same as Hiraga, Kenpachi might have to be carrying 3 ladies to the place where Ichigo and Ulquiorra are fighting lol

[stark espada]

Well unless I missed something in the manga I did not see a crack in the mask any more when she was sleeping I should go back and make sure.

Hime is the only one I think who could possible heal the mask of hers Hopefull when its healed she will go back to adult nel.

[Aizen Sousuke]

@Stark - her mask is still cracked here: http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-313-page-21.html That is after Orihime finished with her, and Nnoitra is dying.

Nell was stronger than Nnoitra while she was released, but we have no idea if Nnoitra's release would have put him above her. We can't use Kenpachi as a basis for that.

My concern is that if she was even with Nnoitra or he was gaining the upper hand (which caused her to release in the first place), then the higher Espada, such as Ulquiorra who is a potential Vasto Lorde, will completely outclass her. Nell is an amazing character, and really brilliant based on what we have seen in flashbacks. She deserves better than what she was received.

I think the importance of Nell so far has been that she is the first Arrancar we've seen that has shown the ability to love. It's almost like she has no hole because her heart, feelings, and passion have filled it up for her. I mean, there's not too many places she could have a hole based on her fighting in rags. But realistically, her intelligence and kindness suggest that she is a very calm and collected individual. She has a personality that is more compatible with the likes of Ulquiorra than Nnoitra, and we know that Ulquiorra is potentially a Vasto Lorde. Vasto Lordes are said to be intelligent beings that have reason and logic to defy their animal instincts, while Adjuchas and below are not as fully evolved, and are dominated by an insatiable hunger and lust, such as Nnoitra and Grimmjow. Based on Nell's personality, there could be a very positive future for her if she happens to be a Vasto Lorde. Once she gets fixed up, she could be twice or even three times as powerful because she has a body capable of using all of her potential.

[Lax_Duke]

I think the importance of Nell so far has been that she is the first Arrancar we've seen that has shown the ability to love. It's almost like she has no hole because her heart, feelings, and passion have filled it up for her. I mean, there's not too many places she could have a hole based on her fighting in rags. But realistically, her intelligence and kindness suggest that she is a very calm and collected individual. She has a personality that is more compatible with the likes of Ulquiorra than Nnoitra, and we know that Ulquiorra is potentially a Vasto Lorde. Vasto Lordes are said to be intelligent beings that have reason and logic to defy their animal instincts, while Adjuchas and below are not as fully evolved, and are dominated by an insatiable hunger and lust, such as Nnoitra and Grimmjow. Based on Nell's personality, there could be a very positive future for her if she happens to be a Vasto Lorde. Once she gets fixed up, she could be twice or even three times as powerful because she has a body capable of using all of her potential.

I totally agree with you there. Not only has she shown the ability to love (making her quite different from other arrancars) but she strong yet gentle at the same time I just cannot imagine her role ending just yet. We get a NoiNel flashback and I bet Kubo will show more depth towards her character.
That's why I love her character so much. She is not shown as your typical espada and arrancar where all they do is fight then die :P

[Aizen Sousuke]

Even Dondo and Pesshe are out of the ordinary. No other Hollows would take care of a 'superior being' in that condition. If it was, let's say, Grimmjow, he would have devoured her out of selfish greed in an attempt to evolve. It takes true love and dedication and compassion to be able to live like those two have.

[Ninatina]

Except how I see it, Kubo sensei gave more depth towards Nel's character compared to Dondo and Pesshe. I really thought at first Nel was just there to add humour, since I thought a child like her cannot fight, but I was totally proven wrong xD

[MOF^^]

Can I join?She is the most adorable character ever..
But before writing and posting fan arts,lemme join :D

[Rain]

MOF^^- welcome to the FC

welcome to the FC everyone else i forgot to welcome (sorry :hug)

nel still has the crack in her mask, but i bet orihime can repair it if she focuses on that...and hopefully if she does nel will be able to become or stay as adult nel for longer

[MOF^^]

I don't want an adult Nel.She is awesome in every way but I still prefer the crazy little girl which drives Ichigo insane.Bleach really needs an emotional character like Nell.She brings so much humor-something the manga needs right now.
I love her

[stark espada]

welcome MOF and all other new members :hug

I agree bleach does need someone like nel around she helps to give the story allot of hummer.

But what if the adult nel was just a funny and insane as the little one would you like the adult more then mof? and every one who does not like adult nel for that reason?

[AnimeGirlPan]

Little Girl Nel pwns Adult Nel

[Aizen Sousuke]

MOF^^- welcome to the FC

welcome to the FC everyone else i forgot to welcome (sorry :hug)

nel still has the crack in her mask, but i bet orihime can repair it if she focuses on that...and hopefully if she does nel will be able to become or stay as adult nel for longer

Orihime can reject the Hougyoku out of existence and recreate the upper body of Menoly, which was completely destroyed by Grimmjow. Restoring Nell to her previous state is definitely within her power, she just has to be focused and aware of what she is doing. I think when she healed Nell in the manga, she just focused on fixing the wounds rather than reverting her back to the time where she was at full power.

[Rain]

Aizen- yeah, thats what i think/meant too

she can do it, but she would have to focus on just that, like how she focused on GJ's arm to restore it

and adult nel has the same loofty personality as little nel, so id prefer to see more adult nel

[MOF^^]

It wouldn't fit adult Nel who looks so calm and beautiful to act like the insane and cute little Nel.I prefer the smaller one so she can be Ichigo's "cute accessory" like Yachiru's one is Zaraki's.
I like adult Nel,don't get me wrong.I just like the young one better..
In every way,Nel is love!

[Skotty]

I'd like to join. <3

[Arrancar_Fan]

Little Girl Nel pwns Adult Nel

fuck yes :XD MOF^^-san, same here :p:p!!! unofficial welcome if i missed u!!

"cute accessory" FTW!!!

unofficial welcome Sukati-san!!!

[Aizen Sousuke]

If Nell remains a child, there is no point in Kon.

[stark espada]

welcome sukati

aizen-Not true kon is the one who always gets beat up there is always a point to kon.

Now if only the little nel would in some way mege with adult nel that would be perfect nel.

[Arrancar_Fan]

i dont really like Kon very much, but thats just meh :p:p he adds the humor so i wouldn't want "no Kon" Bleach but i still want child Nell ^^

[Aizen Sousuke]

Well my point was that Kon is that little tag-a-long buddy like Yachiru is to Kenpachi. I'd rather Nell play the compassionate Hollow role and still care for Ichigo, to become more of a Kon role, when we already have someone for that (Kon himself). I was hoping that kid Nell would just be in the Hueco Mundo arc as a substitute for Kon, and will now play her adult role as they are preparing to leave Hueco Mundo. Of course.. I could be wrong :/

[Melodymix]

Welcome to the FC MOF and Sukati. Thanks for joining and I added your names to the front page ^^

Aizen Sousuke: Well I can't say much about this whole Kon thing. To me, Nel has been more than a tag-a-long buddy to Ichigo. I do get where you are coming from and I sort of agree when you say "I was hoping that kid Nell would just be in the Hueco Mundo arc as a substitute for Kon" but to me Nel has been more than that (lol, I may be only saying this cause I'm a Nel fan :XD)
Kubo has shocked the readers by revealing to adult form, and showing hr true power on the battle field. Ichigo would have been dead without her and she gets a flashback to herself (don't get me wrong, I love Kon)

[Rain]

Melody- how do you edit it if you didn't create the first post:headscratch

chibinel and kon would get along great, i would like to see them interact

but i still think we haven't had enough adult nel :D

[Aizen Sousuke]

Well I'm defending Kon cause i'd rather see Adult Nell then Kid Nell.

[Melodymix]

Rain: Oh, I can log into Geta's account since he trusts moi with his PW :D
It would be kind of stupid if I created a new FC for Nel since we already had about 600 posts when I became an owner. I wanted to take this FC to V2 and not waste those 600 posts ^^

Aizen Sousuke:Well Nel has to return to her true form as the story goes on. I don't think KT willkeep her as a kid forever

[Arrancar_Fan]

id laugh if i could see Nell meeting Kon then biting him on the head like Yachiru did in the Shinigami Cup Golden :XD

[Rain]

Melody- thats cool, i haven't seen geta on in a long time so i was just curious

Aizen- yeah, adult nel ftw *high fives*

and i agree with melody that she will ahve to revert to her original form at some point in the future (she is too strong to not have fighting for ichigo and co)

[Aizen Sousuke]

I think if Ulquiorra is to be taken down by those in Hueco Mundo, Nell will need to fight. Obviously right now, Ichigo is going by himself, but I have no doubt that help will come.

Ulquiorra should, theoretically, completely outclass Zaraki and Byakuya. Ulquiorra is faster than Ichigo, and Ichigo is faster than Zaraki and Byakuya. Now, I'm not using Ichigo as a basis of power, but for a basis of speed, it is appropriate, because speed is just one aspect of fighting, where comparing fighters in general isn't accurate due to different techniques. Ulquiorra isn't a slow strong type that Zaraki can use kendo on, and I feel that Ulquiorra will be too overwhelming for Byakuya. He has Cero/High Speed/Hierro to counter Senbonzakura. If he has a high attack speed, then it is basically over for Byakuya. As for Mayuri, I believe he will probably stay and inspect Szayel's lab, especially because Szayel corrupted his Bankai, which makes me believe he is out of the picture.

Therefor, I think the key players next to Ichigo would be Nell and Unohana, who is strong enough to scare Shunsui. Kubo did say she will have an important fight in this arc. Also, Grimmjow can fight, but only as a wild card. I'd rather him not comeback, cause I don't believe he could become a "good guy." He is more of a loner who would only help fight Ulquiorra so he could fight Ichigo at another time. If he helped, it wouldn't be for good.

[stark espada]

id laugh if i could see Nell meeting Kon then biting him on the head like Yachiru did in the Shinigami Cup Golden :XD

After that I could see this happening. For at least a bit.

NEligami cup *Golden*

[Arrancar_Fan]

:p and then it will be a flying Nell instead of Kon at the beginning ^^ just for the occasion!

[stark espada]

Yes flying little nel not big that would be perfect in my opinion.

[Arrancar_Fan]

lolz :XD i remember once there was a mini Aizen replacing Kon but i forgot which *Shini Cup Golden* that was :p:p

[Lax_Duke]

NELigami cup. Lol, nice name.
And about her adult form and her child form, I just cannot imagine Kubo ending her, always is her kid form. She has to be into an adult form since that's what her true form is. But if she cannot go back into her adult form until the end of the series, I'm just gonna guess she will stay inside Ichigo's closest with Rukia XD

[Soranushi]

heh! I want to see Nel and kon stuff too it'd be classic Neligami cup lol yes this must happen!!:yell And about Kon and Nel you know how he is always beat up when he atemps to glope the girls. I think it'd be funny if Adult Nel caught him trying and hugged him herself since she's kinda like Hime in away. I think it could happen I mostly want see his reaction that his dream finally came true and everyone else's reaction towards Nel gloping him:lmao.

About if Nel helps fight against Ulquiorra its 50/50 for me but It's be awesome if she does and I bet I'd be after Ichigo was wounded very badly.

[MOF^^]

fuck yes :XD MOF^^-san, same here :p:p!!! unofficial welcome if i missed u!!

"cute accessory" FTW!!!

unofficial welcome Sukati-san!!!

Thanks :cool:
Nell looks strong in her adult form and sexy and everything but I'm not fan of big boobs actually.The cute insane Nel is a way better in my opinion.Sometimes I wish the adult and the little kid were different people with diffrent names.Or if adult Nel was kid Nel's mother.Maybe because the big Nel looks so kind

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/333/3/9/39985693f457e198.jpg
A daughter and a mother-pretty <3

[Lax_Duke]

That's an awesome picture of Nel. Thankyou for posting it here MOF^^
If any of you have other awesome Nel pics then I would like to see them ^^

[Hiraga]

lolz :XD i remember once there was a mini Aizen replacing Kon but i forgot which *Shini Cup Golden* that was :p:p

I remember, that was the trailer of the Hitsugaya movie
here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kNM-P73qm8c
(sorry, it's with Hungarian subs)

To return to the topic, I like Nel in chibi form more than her adult form, but I like that as well... But I think she or Unohana will help Ichi in his fight with Ulquiorra...
Kon and Nel LOL :rotflmao

That's an awesome picture of Nel. Thankyou for posting it here MOF^^
If any of you have other awesome Nel pics then I would like to see them ^^

This is one of my favourite pictures of Nel by Letucse:
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs21/300W/i/2007/301/a/9/Bleach_Nell_Milkshake_by_Letucse.jpg

[MOF^^]

That's an awesome picture of Nel. Thankyou for posting it here MOF^^
If any of you have other awesome Nel pics then I would like to see them ^^

You can actually find a lot in Deviantart,it's full of Nel fanarts.She is very loved by most of Bleach fans <3
http://chibi-rera.deviantart.com/art/Nel-Tu-75661474
Chibi adult Nel
amaziiing :o

[Arrancar_Fan]

awww!!! great pics guys :XD i love it when there is one pic with two forsm of a character ^^

the last pic is so ironic MOF^^-san!!

[Lax_Duke]

Great Nel pics guys ^^
Here is my fav pic of her



http://i21.tinypic.com/1zxb3he.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs20/f/2007/253/1/3/Nel_Tu_Oderschvank_by_MizuRenkin.jpg



[IMG]

[Arrancar_Fan]

lolz. the first time i ever saw the first one, i was shocked O.o!!!! then i spazzed :XD cause i was a mega Chibi!Nell fan and seeing her way older looking, i freaked!

the second pic has always been my fave :love

thxs for da post!!

[stark espada]

there good but I have seen them

[Yoshimi]

Joinage, please :) Nel is cute in her child form and beautiful in her adult form ^^

[Linabana]

Welcome to the FC Yoshimi ^^
What aspects of Nel appeal to you the most?

[Yoshimi]

I like that she is peaceful, helpful, reasonable, friendly, etc.

And thanks for the welcome :)

[stark espada]

welcome to the fan club thank you for joining yoshimi :D

Good response there.

[Arrancar_Fan]

Joinage, please :) Nel is cute in her child form and beautiful in her adult form ^^

unofficial welcome

nice answer :p:p

[Lax_Duke]

Welcome to the FC Yoshimi. Thanks for joining ^^

I just noticed how close this FC is to V2. Nel deserves it ^^

[stark espada]

Well I think when V2 comes around Mel should make it alright every one or if she can not since I am co owner I will make it.

[Aizen Sousuke]

Welcome to the FC Yoshimi ^^
What aspects of Nel appeal to you the most?

I like how she is the opposite of every other Hollow we've seen. They are all angry and empty on the inside, where she is caring and full of love.

[stark espada]

I like how she is the opposite of every other Hollow we've seen. They are all angry and empty on the inside, where she is caring and full of love.

Well that is not entirely true I mean stark and lili do not seem in the least bit angry or empty on the inside and peshe and donderjack as well and all the previon Other then thunderwhich do not seem like that. SO nel might be most happy she is not only one.

[Aizen Sousuke]

Lol, ok. The VAST majority of Hollows.

As I said earlier, I think Nell shares character traits with most of the potential Vasto Lorde Espada, like Ulquiorra, Halibel, Barragan, and Stark. They are all intelligent, calm, and collected individuals. None of them seem to succumb to inner desires like Grimmjow and Nnoitra. This is a good sign for Nell, if she returns to her full potential :)

[GreenBlack]

I'm going to disagree with you guys.

Nell is obviously more compassionate than others, but it all boils down to one truth. She's still a hollow, a merciful one, but she's a hollow. By not respecting her nature or the fact that she is what she is, we aren't accepting her character. She's a beautiful, powerful, hollow. Nicer than most, but even Stark Halibel and the others still express that they're willing to do what Aizen wills, and she followed him too you know.

[Aizen Sousuke]

Nell did what she had to do. She was against Nnoitra killing that random colony in one of the flashbacks, because she said her orders were to find the Vasto Lorde, and nothing else. Nnoitra said that it was justified, and that Aizen never said not to. It is the fact that Nell has no mindless killing that makes her unique.

I mean, even Nell vs Nnoitra in the manga. Nell said she would spare his life. I can't think of many other Hollows who would do that.

[Melodymix]

Do do understand where you both are coming from. But IMO all Esapadas have their own personality, and Nel's one is just a compassionate one compared to other Hollows, giving her more of a human trait ^^

By the way, when V2 hits (which is very soon when we hit 1000 posts) stark espada will be taking over the FC for us. I'm going to be taking over yet another FC (Please join >.<) and with school, I was not confident to keep up with the FC
I'm confident stark espada will keep the FC active and I'll continue to post from time-to-time.

Lol, I'll just settle as a Vice-Captain or Former Owner in the next FC XD

[Lax_Duke]

Congrats stark espada for becoming the new owner :D

[stark espada]

Thank you Lax

[Melodymix]

Some Nel avatar's my friend made. Feel free to use them ^^

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava5.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava4.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava2.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava3.jpg

[GreenBlack]

Lol, okay, you've all got me started now!

What I was saying was not that hollows do not have pride, compassion, or emotions. Even Nnoitra has emotions, and grows. DON'T BE PULLIN; THE CHAPTERS ON ME, I READ EM' THIRTY TIMES. (No that wasn't meant to be rude, I was joking actually...okay not about the thirty times)

It's quite the opposite actually.

The arrancar have the potential for growth, love, and happiness. But they aren't going to find it simply because the person leading them is not someone who wants to hand them salvation, he wants to hand them power and acceptance for what they already are.

They all have morals, and they all grow:

We all want to believe Nnoitra has no morals, but the truth is (and I use this as an argument for NnoiNel so :P) despite his hate for Nel he learns from her. Remember Nels not a warrior speech? That isn't kindness, that's pride. Nel has pride, as an Espada she should. Nnoitra learns that from her. This kind of pride is good, it stops meaningless bloodshed. But Nnoitra slaughtered those people in the past, you say?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/Oki_Jule/05.jpg


I'm not saying Nel isn't kind, gracious, and more compassionate than other hollows. On the contrary, such a woman as her is definitely more defined as sophisticated, just as Halibel and Stark and the others. They wouldn't take a leaf from Nnoitra's book and kill a colony, but Nnoitra grew passed that.

Thing is, while Halibel was not fighting Ichigo, she was watching every minute of it. Even a hollow with as much grace as Halibel submits to at least watch such a thing, even if she means to hold back from it.

As Stark said, they even go against their own nature for Aizen. "I don't usually do this sort of thing" Stark said. Of course they have their own natures, and if they were under the guidance of someone who wanted to give hollows the 'salvation' Nnoitra said was impossible for them, I'm sure Nel would be the first on the list.

The simple fact is that Nel is sophisticated and proper, but she like the rest of the Espada will go against their natures for Aizen. It's her duty, and truth be told were she still an Espada to this day there is NOTHING suggesting she'd help Ichigo. She was indebted to him.

Neliel isn't the first Espada to show compassion either. Halibel shows it when she comforts her fraccion and tells them it's good to have a fear, and they should value it. They're both strong prideful people, with nothing suggesting they're off in value.

The pride that makes Nell unique is shared between many. I think that her humbled form is one that makes her unique, because she was a child for so long. But truth be told she's still an Espada at heart. She fights gracefully, she spares Nnoitra's life. Her morals and principles that others share, they're right there yo.

Don't take this as anti-Nell please, I love her so much ;__: I just wanted to explain myself!

[Soranushi]

Bravo Greenblack that was a great explanation and you are absolutely right:D.
So I have a question do you think Neliel may join up with Aizen again and fight against her new friends and why would she? I ask this because I just get the feeling that you think that there's a possibility of it happening by reading your post as do I.

What about everyone else do you think Neliel will go back to Las noches to fight for the salvation of the Hollows and the Arrancar with Aizen or stay with Ichigo and the crew becoming a ambassador of the Arrancars/Hollows?

I'm 50/50 with the idea but personally I don't want that to happen but I would very much enjoy reading it and I think it'd be great for the story if it happens. Why because I have an idea on the story of the hybrids and what may happen in the future thats all.

Lol why am I even asking this heh who knows. I asked twice just go with the one you want.

[Melodymix]

Oh GreenBlack. You are the last person I would ever say that is an anti-Nel fan :) Lol, and I just noticed your user name has something to do with NoiNel. Gosh I'm slow :XD Nice long post by the way :love I especially agree with your sentence The arrancar have the potential for growth, love, and happiness. But they aren't going to find it simply because the person leading them is not someone who wants to hand them salvation, he wants to hand them power and acceptance for what they already are.

Do you think Nel may join up with Aizen again and fight against her new friends and why would she?

That would be an intresting twist actually, but so far I doubt it. And even if she does I think she will be more forced to fight Ichigo and his nakama such as reasons like Aizen held her brothers as hostage etc. or maybe like something silimar to D Gray Man, where Aizen has the power to control all the Arrancars in HM ^^

Very nice question Soranushi :D

[Ninatina]

Some Nel avatar's my friend made. Feel free to use them ^^

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava5.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava4.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava2.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava3.jpg

Don't mind if I do :love *points to my sig*

What about everyone else do you think Neliel will go back to Las noches to fight for the salvation of the Hollows and the Arrancar with Aizen or stay with Ichigo and the crew becoming a ambassador of the Arrancars/Hollows?

I sure hope not but the other half of me say it will be a good twist to the story. But I can't imagine her joining force and helping out Ichigo's team... hmm...

[Ruffy GEAR 2]

I don't thinks she would go back to Las Noches if she had the chance to go. As for now she's in toddler mode and she and her brothers can't defend themself anymore, they (or at least her brothers) have known when they fight against the espada there won't be a place in HM where they could be save. So I think Ichigo (or ken-chan^^) will take her with him, to SS or Karakura.

[MOF^^]

What aspects of Nel appeal to you the most?

I know Nell is a Hollow like everyone else-Lillinette,Halibel,Stark and the others.But that doesn't stop us from loving her!After all,we all loved Hitsugaya,Matsumoto,Hinamori,Ichimaru and everyone else in the Soul Society arc even though they were against Ichigo and the rest.I personally loved Byakuya who wanted to kill my favourite character-Rukia.So I don't think it really matters THAT much what Nel is.She is something like Hanatarou in this arc.What I hope is that she will stay and appear unlike Hanatarou after Hueco Mundo arc.
Anyway,I like how Nel is adorable and brings emotion to Bleach but at the same time she isn't always the helpless little girl which never fights.The fact that she has two forms make me like her even more-she can be cute,insane and strong at the same time.That's not something all characters can do-only a few of them.That's why I love Nel..Also,being against your leader when he is so strong requires being brave.
What about everyone else do you think Neliel will go back to Las noches to fight for the salvation of the Hollows and the Arrancar with Aizen or stay with Ichigo and the crew becoming a ambassador of the Arrancars/Hollows?

I don't really have an opinion here.I hope that she will stay but I can only do that.It's Kubo's decision.I still think she will stay-Kubo knows how loved she is by the fans.But,at the same time-that's against her nature.She is a Hollow and she'll always be
Melodymix she is extremely beautiful there

[Rain]

about the nel and her being a hollow/VL

I don't see why some think nels personality as unique among the arrancar

arrancar have been brought closer to shinigami, so they aren't just purely instinctual creatures like hollows:D

Nel may be generally more happy than other arrancar, but i don't see this as sign that she is a VL. i just think its a unique personality that any arrancar could have xD

stark- congrats on being the new owner
melody- which one are you taking over

[Arrancar_Fan]

Some Nel avatar's my friend made. Feel free to use them ^^

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava5.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava4.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava2.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p41/Evernex/BA/nelava3.jpg

sweet :laugh!!

[Aizen Sousuke]

The arrancar have the potential for growth, love, and happiness. But they aren't going to find it simply because the person leading them is not someone who wants to hand them salvation, he wants to hand them power and acceptance for what they already are.

Yeah, all of the Arrancar have potential. Nell was created by Kubo to prove it, that Hollows can have a fate other than the same, mindless slaughtering and blood lust that we saw with Grand Fisher and others. Hollows, like you said, have that potential for love and happiness. The big thing about Nell is that she is the first to show this, and even when she served Aizen, you could see that she was not as dark as the others around her.

We all want to believe Nnoitra has no morals, but the truth is (and I use this as an argument for NnoiNel so :P) despite his hate for Nel he learns from her. Remember Nels not a warrior speech? That isn't kindness, that's pride. Nel has pride, as an Espada she should. Nnoitra learns that from her. This kind of pride is good, it stops meaningless bloodshed. But Nnoitra slaughtered those people in the past, you say?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/Oki_Jule/05.jpg



Although Nnoitra has some justification for it (at the time of the incident), the fact that he could fight off that colony so easily shows that the threat was really insignificant. If that colony really decided to rebel and attack Aizen, they would have been wiped out anyway without much trouble. So what is the point then in killing them? Of course, your next point DOES show Nnoitra's evolution from this:

I'm not saying Nel isn't kind, gracious, and more compassionate than other hollows. On the contrary, such a woman as her is definitely more defined as sophisticated, just as Halibel and Stark and the others. They wouldn't take a leaf from Nnoitra's book and kill a colony, but Nnoitra grew passed that.

I agree with this. He realized that he couldn't kill helpless warriors to prove his strength. He knows that he couldn't pick off people like Chad and expect people to see his true strength. He was on a quest to defeat anyone in his path to ascend to the top.

Thing is, while Halibel was not fighting Ichigo, she was watching every minute of it. Even a hollow with as much grace as Halibel submits to at least watch such a thing, even if she means to hold back from it.

Well you actually don't know if she was ordered to do something of that nature. I don't think we can really draw anything from this.

As Stark said, they even go against their own nature for Aizen. "I don't usually do this sort of thing" Stark said. Of course they have their own natures, and if they were under the guidance of someone who wanted to give hollows the 'salvation' Nnoitra said was impossible for them, I'm sure Nel would be the first on the list.

True, but what are they suppose to do when Aizen is (theoretically) stronger than all of them. There are those who are also loyal because of what Aizen has done for them. But I see the majority of them following Aizen not because he shows no fear, but because they realize they can't do anything else. If Grimmjow didn't obey Aizen, who could lower him to his knees only using his reiatsu, then Aizen would have no problem killing him. Aizen even said he would if Grimmjow attacked Tousen.

The simple fact is that Nel is sophisticated and proper, but she like the rest of the Espada will go against their natures for Aizen. It's her duty, and truth be told were she still an Espada to this day there is NOTHING suggesting she'd help Ichigo. She was indebted to him.

But she continuously spared Nnoitra on several occasions, despite the fact that he hated her and wanted to kill her.

Neliel isn't the first Espada to show compassion either. Halibel shows it when she comforts her fraccion and tells them it's good to have a fear, and they should value it. They're both strong prideful people, with nothing suggesting they're off in value.

But is this as a leader speaking to her troops, to prepare them for possible battles, or as a friend trying to build strength and confidence into people she loves?

The pride that makes Nell unique is shared between many. I think that her humbled form is one that makes her unique, because she was a child for so long. But truth be told she's still an Espada at heart. She fights gracefully, she spares Nnoitra's life. Her morals and principles that others share, they're right there yo.

Good conclusion.

[Hiraga]

Do you think Neliel may join up with Aizen again and fight against her new friends and why would she?

I think Nel would never fight against Ichigo and the others, but if Nnoi wouldn't have thrown Nel out of Las Noches, then I think she would, obviously
But only if Aizen ordered her to...

That was a really good explanation, GreenBlack! +rep

Oh, I will miss you as an owner, Melodymix :(
But congrats for being the owner Stark :D

okay, I have a question as well:
Which rank would have Nel now if she would be an Espada?

I was just wondering about it for a while... Nnoitora was 8 in the time when Nel was 3, so I think she would be 4 or 3 or 5
I want to know your opinion :D

[Aizen Sousuke]

I don't think we can give her an accurate rank because of the damages done to her. We don't know what her true potential is, other than that she would be 5 at a minimum, or 6 for people who think Nnoitra was truly stronger than her at that time. I however, think she had been weakened because of her damages, was not fighting at full potential, was leaking out reiatsu because her body couldn't handle it, and this ultimately turned her back into a child, showing that she was in no condition to fight.

[Arrancar_Fan]

zomg i didnt answer these O.o:

Do you think Neliel may join up with Aizen again and fight against her new friends and why would she?

I don't think she's planning to join Aizen anytime soon >.> im not very sure how long its been since she turned chibi, but i am sure that its been quite a while and i dont belive Nell was on Aizen's side very much even when she was an Espada. she kept on calling him 'Aizen-sama', though, as a child but then again, she had a child's mind and thats probably the only way she knows how to call Aizen.

Which rank would have Nel now if she would be an Espada?

since Nnoitra commented that time has changed and so has power, i belive that Nell is at rank 8-7 if she turned Espada now.

[stark espada]

good answers AF thanks for telling them I am totally going to agree with what you said in the first post.Unless she still has loyalty towards him. He did not hurt her Nnoitora did so who knows what will happen.

Oh and in rank I would say 7 to 9 might be more so for her now.

[Arrancar_Fan]

ah thxs stark espada-san :)

ya, id say somewhere along the numbers 9,8 and 7 :p:p

[stark espada]

But there is one thing though she has been gone She did king of almost beat the hell out of Nnoitora so it could be that she is strong enough to be 6 if you think about it.

[Aizen Sousuke]

I'd definitely put her above Grimmjow in her current state, no questions asked.

[stark espada]

Well I do think she is stronger then grimmjow yet Nnoitora passes her up so I would say 6 but border 5 in strength maybe

[Aizen Sousuke]

If she was at her full potential, I would say she would be stronger than Nnoitra. To think after "x" amount of time of being a child, and transforming, not being use to your power, not fighting at your full strength, etc. Nnoitra had a major handicap. Before Nell released, Nnoitra was basically even with her. If Nell was not in the condition she was in, she would have had an absolute advantage over Nnoitra when they were both unreleased. Idealistically, and considering her full power, she'd be above Nnoitra, but as of right now not being at full potential, I'd agree with Stark Espada about the borderline 5/6. At her full potential, 3rd maximum.

[stark espada]

Well I do not agree with that maybe at full potential she is close to Nnoitora but you forget when fighting him he never once went into his released form if he had that would have been the only way to really show if she was or was not and I would not go as far as to say she is stronger then ulquiorra.

[Mars]

Do you think Neliel may join up with Aizen again and fight against her new friends and why would she?

I doubt it. And why would she? Unless she has some sort of history with Aizen, which is probably not the case.


Which rank would have Nel now if she would be an Espada?

Looking at her skills she could easily beat Nnoitra, even when he's fully realised, and I even see her beaten Ulqi. So that would make her #4.

[Arrancar_Fan]

well, we didin't get to see her attack NNoitra, so i think shes may be a little below him. i have a feeling that if she did attack, he would have survivied. but its just a feeling ^^ i wouldn't be absolutly positive unless i see her attack

[stark espada]

Well that is going a bit far there I think mars. Really I wish they had released Nnoitora because truly know its an unknown if she could or not. But I would not say she could beat ulquiorra at all I mean he is one step above Nnoitora and she did not beat him.

I think after that attack Nnoitora would have released if it made contact with him

[Mars]

Arrancar_fan: Didn't she attacked Nnoitra with her lanze verde..?


Stark: She fought him with a broken mask, so she must have more skills available if her mask would be fixed again... who knows..

[Arrancar_Fan]

Arrancar_fan: Didn't she attacked Nnoitra with her lanze verde..?


oh, well, i dont remember that :p but he survivied it, right??

[stark espada]

Though she had the broken mask that does not mean she did not have her power she had it when she turned back but it was like a timer just waiting to go off. SO she turned back it never said she was not in full power I mean she got her memory back and her power for a short time.

Oh and the main attack she was going to do never hit because she changed back.

[Mars]

Arrancar fan: Lol, yeah he did, more or less. Well i don't want to spoil it for you if you haven't read the manga yet :p


Spark: Hmm yes, however she used to be Espada #3, above both Ulqi and Nnoitra, there must have been a reason for that

[stark espada]

Mars I am not spark I am stark :yell please get it right :yell

Yes use to be but the current ones have had to to get stronger and allot of these are newer ones so really that does not make any difference.

[Mars]

Oops sorry sTark ;)


True, poor Neliel probably didn't had a chance to develop herself during that time

[stark espada]

If she was not hurt I think she would be the second espada by now why not first well the first has probably been in that spot for quite some time and getting stronger every day.

Oh and thank you

[Rain]

I don't think the ranks would have changed that much

if nel were still an espada i see her as being about nnoitras level anyway

She hadn't fought in years, and her mask was leaking reiatsu, so that was a handicap against her, thats why she had to release first

I don't think that nnoitra ever surpassed her in terms of strenght

[Arrancar_Fan]

Arrancar fan: Lol, yeah he did, more or less. Well i don't want to spoil it for you if you haven't read the manga yet :p


lolz, dont worry. i read it ^^

there is a big variation of ranks Nell could be if she turned Espada now. reading all the posts, apparently the most common ones are from rank 9-5

[stark espada]

rain-That would mean every one goes back a level Nnoitora would be 6 but yammy would stay 10 AA would be bumbed off.

I still say 6 AF I think

[Melodymix]

Wow, you guys have been posting a lot since I was away. Lol, are you allexcited about Nel’s adult form being animated???

And there are very good discussions going on guys ^^

By the way, I requested Navirae to make the V2 banner for us, snd she already finished it and it looks awesome :inlove
I'm gonna PM it to Stark now and I can't wait for all of you to see it on V 2 :inlove :inlove :inlove

Which rank would have Nel now if she would be an Espada?

About 4 I guess seeing her battle with Nnoitra

Hiraga: Aww, that’s so sweet. But I’ll be popping up randomly in the FC from time-to-time helping Stark out :D

Ninatina: Sure go ahead. Go hard XD

Ruffy GEAR 2: I don’t thin she’ll be going back to Las Noches as well, since she fought for Ichigo and his nakama. But yeah, I’m really curious to know what will happen to her in the future

Rain: I’m taking over the Yoruichi FC :D (join peoplez! Join XD)

[Soranushi]

Which rank would have Nel now if she would be an Espada?

At the moment she'd be as strong as Noi is right now maybe slightly weaker like Grimm released level. But if she hadn't been kicked out of Las Noches and her mask and head weren't injured. She would easily be either 4th or still the 3rd espada why because look at Noi's progress in the years she was gone. With that in mind she should would've been either 3or4 right now if she continued to train herself. But I wouldn't every put her at 7 and above that's to weak for her current level. Even if she wasn't still 3rd or 4th after training I'd put her at 5th espada level that's equal to the 4th in overall power this is only if she wasn't kicked out.

[Aizen Sousuke]

Too bad we have fillers between where the anime is now and Nell being animated :(

[Soranushi]

Yeah I know what you mean Aizen I was waiting for awhile now but we end up getting shafted at the last minute. For awhile before we knew when CHU-BARA the next op would start I was hoping that the cliffhanger would be the part when we first see adult Nel but the cliffhanger should happen when Noi arrives after one shotting Grimm.

[Linabana]

OMG fillers go away! :yell Stop making me wait until we see adult Nell

By the way this may sound weird but is her name spelt "Nel" or "Nell"??? I've seen different spellings depending on different people.

And I can't wait to see the V2 banner Melody :D

[Soranushi]

OMG fillers go away! :yell Stop making me wait until we see adult Nell

By the way this may sound weird but is her name spelt "Nel" or "Nell"??? I've seen different spellings depending on different people.

And I can't wait to see the V2 banner Melody :D

Yeah I wish the fillers would go away but you know the sad part about them its that this filler will most likely be as long as the Bounto arc. Why because there's not enough Manga material to last another 50 episodes yet on a slightly brighter note It could only last one season which is 26 episodes. But that is still is atleast 6months from now and thats much better than a year..........even so It makes me sad:cry:cry:devestated:devestated:wah

And officially her (nick)name is spelled with only one "L" so its Nel but either one works.

Sorry for possible bringing everyone down:o:(

[Hiraga]

Her name is spelled Nel, cuz her name was Neliel back then...

OMG, I'm truely glad to see that so many ppl answered my question, thanks, everyone!!! :wtf

I was so disappointed when I heard that the fillers begin when we would finally see Nel's adult form... :(
But a flashback about her would make my day :D

[Arrancar_Fan]

i think theres a high possibility for a Nell flashback.

also, i hope u mind me if i might spell her name as Nell :p:p im just so used to it ^^

[Aizen Sousuke]

Yeah I wish the fillers would go away but you know the sad part about them its that this filler will most likely be as long as the Bounto arc. Why because there's not enough Manga material to last another 50 episodes yet on a slightly brighter note It could only last one season which is 26 episodes. But that is still is atleast 6months from now and thats much better than a year..........even so It makes me sad:cry:cry:devestated:devestated:wah

And officially her (nick)name is spelled with only one "L" so its Nel but either one works.

Sorry for possible bringing everyone down:o:(

See the thing is.. it makes more sense to switch to fillers after the Nnoitra/Kenpachi fight, when everyone is preparing for battle. I'm guessing the fillers now will be short, and then longer fillers will roll around once the anime reaches the point where the "swing back the pendulum" chapters are occurring. That spot is a much more natural break in the story. The fillers right now, I hope, will be the length of the Ashido fillers.

[stark espada]

You all will love the new banner I promise you that.

You know in the anime your not going to see adult nel for about a year because for some reason they thought it was a good idea to put a arc in side of an already going on arc that makes no since.

[Ninatina]

Can't wait to see the new banner. And I know Nav is awesome at graphics ^^

Speaking of spelling her name, this FC spelt Nell with 2 Ls. Works either way ^^

And I know there will be a filler but I can't wait to hear what her voice would aound like :love. Hope it sounds very mature and beautiful

[stark espada]

Nina-You will not be disappointed.

I think I will go with 1 L in the next version.

Oh I find it dumb to do an arc within an arc it makes no since at all.

If I remember right its going to be the same voice for the chibi nel will be the voice of adult nel.

[Aizen Sousuke]

You can always do Nelliel for the next version

[stark espada]

Neh I think Nel tu is better.

[Melodymix]

I can't wait to see adult Nel in the opening and ending :love

[Soranushi]

@Aizen Yeah your right it would make more sense if they started the fillers right before the Turn Back the Pendulum arc. But alas I dont think we'll be lucky enough for the fillers to be as long as the Ashido arc since there's like 6 new characters that were made for this arc. So at the very least it'll only last 13 episodes but the maximum ranges from 26-46 episodes but just now typing in 46 made me think it wont be that long so I'm going with 26. There is one thing that can prove how long the fillers will last and thats the new opening.

Oh I find it dumb to do an arc within an arc it makes no since at all.

If I remember right its going to be the same voice for the chibi nel will be the voice of adult nel.

Yeah its is dumb it'll be even worse if Ichigo and the crew are in it like were would it fit in the story? I think this might be the only true fillers bleach has ever had the last three weren't out of place in the anime time line at all. Well I hope Chibi Nel's seiyuu will have a great Adult Nel voice.

I can't wait to see adult Nel in the opening and ending:love

You know I hope this happens I shall cry tears of happiness if this comes to pass

[stark espada]

First off Soranushi If I remember right reading on one of the sites I think they said its supposed to be a full season so 26 for sure maybe a few more which means this filler could last a full year. wahow(sarcastic)

Oh also I would like to know were this fits in as well I mean I do not see them fighting and then just puff back in home that be like what the !*#@. I agree thought the bounto never happened in manga does not mean it was pointless it showed character growth and had a place in the manga. Oh and then the 10+ episodes of the fillers were there to make it look like ichigo had time to train instead of just one moment he training next he is going to HM.

But what will make even less since is if these people just randomly appear in the HM arc even though they were not there from the start.

[Hiraga]

I can't wait to see adult Nel in the opening and ending :love
Me neither :inlove
But I think they will only show a little of her, to not to spoil about her adult form to the ppl, who only watch the anime...
meh...

The fillers will be 26 episodes??? That's so bad... I want ADULT NEL :cry:cry:cry

About Nel's voice, I think it will be great as the other voices of Bleach :D

[Arrancar_Fan]

I can't wait to see adult Nel in the opening and ending :love

thats gonna be exciting :p:p

[stark espada]

AF-As soon as that happens I'm making a special amv for certain but still it seems like it will not happen for another year to 6 months which sucks

[Arrancar_Fan]

lolz sounds good!! wat kind of song would u use??

[stark espada]

Well seeing as I'm going to be more the action stuff I was thinking maybe the song killer queen or having a good time or something like that.

[Lax_Duke]

Can't wait to see the AMV

And hoping to see adult Nel featured on the opening or the ending

[stark espada]

Should I use the song killer queen for it when I do it I have idea's of how I would do that

[Arrancar_Fan]

i think thats a pretty good idea ^^

[stark espada]

most of the stuff I will do using that song will be with her release form.

Like the dynamite with a Lazar beam thing will be when she sucks up the cero and blast it back AT Nnoitora. Think that will work out?

Oh also I will put it up as the threads official Nel tu video. will that be alright with you all? You have nothing to worry about I am good at amv making 2 have gotten first place awards at anime cons.

[Arrancar_Fan]

awesome!!!! cant wait for it :D

[stark espada]

Good so we need a new topic what you want to talk about?

Oh here is a topic since the new grimmjow was great do you think the Nel fight will be just as good or better?

[Arrancar_Fan]

i think her fight will be better ^^ cause she's such a main girl now and she wowed us with her true form, i think her fight will be really exciting :p though, it depends on the person

[stark espada]

AF-I agree with that idea I think the fight with her and Nnoitora depending on how long it takes will probably be one of the best fight in bleach History. I also think it will make for a great amv stuff.

[Melodymix]

I agree. Her fight with Nnoitora was what made me love her even more cause it was just one of the best fight in HM arc cause we got to know more about her character and her history :inlove

[stark espada]

mel-Agreed I think the animation for the fight will probably be top notch

[Soranushi]

Yeah I think Nel's fight is going to be just as good as Grimms and the animations gonna be just as great:D:noes. But if its animation is Normal great quality thats still okay:) but names are going to be taken if they shaft us:mad: and this :killu shall be what happens to the animators if they do. I really wish the Fillers would've started atleast after Nel transformed into Neliel.....I wish*sigh*.

[Hiraga]

Nel's fight is one of my fav fights in the manga, so the animators can't do it so wrong :D
(I'm looking forward to your AMV, Stark)

[Arrancar_Fan]

lolz, if Nel's fight isn't as good as it should be, there will be blood :D:D

[stark espada]

AF-:lmao good movie reference. But I actually think at points during this fight its animation might be even better then this fights animation. Just me thinking though.

[AnimeGirlPan]

Nel fights good and stuff
and shes a good speaker to Inoue too lol

[stark espada]

pan-That speech she gave inoue was the perfect prep up speech.

I would alsmost want here to be a public speaker she was that good.

[Aizen Sousuke]

After watching 166, my faith has been sort of restored to the animators. They did a great job with the fight and they have shown improvement compared to the atrocities that we had to bear since the Bount Arc. I hope this is a sign of good things to come, and that they will only improve from here. If that's the case, the Nell fight will be bound to please - especially since they will add more to the fight for the purposes of time, meaning we see Nell more ;)

[Arrancar_Fan]

pan-That speech she gave inoue was the perfect prep up speech.

I would alsmost want here to be a public speaker she was that good.

Nel is one preppy speaker then :D:D

im also hoping that the animation will get better and better ^^ Nel's true form appearence really shocked the whole Bleach world so obviously the animators have to make a big deal about it!!

[stark espada]

I think so AF she is a good speaker.

I think the animation will go down in the fillers but then the Nel thing comes up and I think it will be the best animation in bleach at the moment.

[AnimeGirlPan]

so its settle then
Nel is a great pep speaker for Inoue Orihime :D

[Ninatina]

The animatar better not stuff up her fight with Noi :yell
Cause that's my fav scene from Nel :inlove

Oh, and the flashback too :inlove

[stark espada]

Nina-I think the best of the fight animation will be when Nel releases.

[Melodymix]

Agree. And I'm quite confident the anime-team will do a very god job when her release form is revealed :love
Not to mention, Ichigo's shocked reaction when he sees adult Nel :XD

[Hiraga]

Not to mention, Ichigo's shocked reaction when he sees adult Nel :XD

And Ichigo's shocked reaction when Nel embraces Itsygo XD
Nel's realease is my current fav :)

[Arrancar_Fan]

Not to mention, Ichigo's shocked reaction when he sees adult Nel :XD

thats gonna be the best :XD

[stark espada]

Mel-That was one of the funniest scens in the manga so I will probably crack up when I see it in the anime. But I really wanna see the animation right before she turns back I mean it looked great so just can not wait to see it in anime

[AnimeGirlPan]

just hope back in the manga..Nel don't get forgotten
:yell

[stark espada]

She is far to important and built up for kubo to say ah screw her she will no longer be needed.

[Arrancar_Fan]

dont worry ^^ Nel isnt go anywhere

[stark espada]

AF-I think all of us would be pissed if she is written off it would not make any since building it up and then throwing her away.

[Arrancar_Fan]

yes, that doesnt make sense. and Kubo-taichou isnt stupid :p hes watching out for Bleach since Zombie Powder failed

[stark espada]

:cry I loved zombie poweder I wish they would go back and re do it it was great it needs an anime.

but no kubo might not be a little worse at fights as some but one thing he excels out above all others is story and plot someone with that much known is going no were.

[Arrancar_Fan]

i liked Zombie Powder too but aparenlt not the majority of Japan :cry

i think Kubo-taicho has taken really good care Bleach so far :p:p

[stark espada]

I think (other then fillers) bleach has been all and all a 9.5 in my rating and it keeps getting better

It will probably move to a 9.7 when nel releases in anime

[Arrancar_Fan]

well, i hope it turns 10 for u ^^

it sure is a 10 on my scale :p:p well, maybe 9.8 ;)

[stark espada]

its getting there thought this filler is going to keep it at same level or lower it unless its just great.

but nel noi fight might make it a perfect 10

[marie]

Joining, along with an avy.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg258/shini-marie/gfx/neri01.png

[Melodymix]

Welcome marie. And OMG, that's such a amazing avatar :inlove

[EX|pada #0]

I can't believe I wasn't here until now :headscratch

Joinage :love

[marie]

Welcome marie. And OMG, that's such a amazing avatar :inlove

The avy artwork was actually drawn by someone from BA~! :inlove

Credit for the art goes to the amazing Cezaria.

[Melodymix]

Welcome to the FC EX|pada #0 :D

So let's start off with a question new memebers (and if you are an older member you can answer it as well :D)

What aspects of Nel appeal to you the most?

marie:Tell her she is an awesome artist and what is ahppening to the Gintama FC XDDDD

[marie]

Her human-like emotions, strength, and kindness. also tits

And her throat-penith. :fu / runs out

[EX|pada #0]

What aspects of Nel appeal to you the most?

Her "warrior woman" style. I definitely LOVE this sort of character. They're so... kick ass :XD

[stark espada]

Welcome marie and EXL :hug

Both good responces to the question.

[Lax_Duke]

Welcome to the FC marie and EX|pada #0. Thanks for joining.

And thats a cool avatar marie.
We are close close to V2

[stark espada]

Lax very close also I should say if I am not here when V1 hits a thousand could I ask you all to wait a little bit for me to get on so I could make it?

[Arrancar_Fan]

Joining, along with an avy.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg258/shini-marie/gfx/neri01.png

awesome!!! late unofficial welcome!!!!

same to u EX|pada #0-san!!!!

nice responses :D

[stark espada]

so here is a topic.

Who thinks nel will be on of the only arrancar to actually live?

[Arrancar_Fan]

i dont really think that ^^ theres still Ulquiorra and Halibel and Stark. but i think Yami will die soon. i have a feeling they have a brighter future ;) but i could be wrong :p:p

[stark espada]

I think halibel and stark will live but not as much ulquiorra I think he will die a warriors death.

[Arrancar_Fan]

oh i hope he dosn't die :cry but its just a hope

there hasnt been any facts that prove he will live or die ;)

[stark espada]

he has a beat colleciton so he might live

[Arrancar_Fan]

ya ^^ alot of fans like Ulquorra so he can't go ;) Kubo-taichou may lose lots of fans if he got rid of Ulqui :XD

[Hiraga]

come to think of it, Nel has a beat collection as well ^^
(if Kubo-taicho kills either Nel or Ulquiorra, he can be sure to follow them)
Welcome, new members! :glomp

[stark espada]

That is another reason I think nel will live yet grimmjow has one as well but it was because he was popular

[Arrancar_Fan]

you think grimmjow might be dead!? :faint

he cant be!! again, Kubo-taichou would lose alot of fans :nooo

[Melodymix]

Lax very close also I should say if I am not here when V1 hits a thousand could I ask you all to wait a little bit for me to get on so I could make it?

Sure ^^ And you have to copy and paste the members lisdt again since after I sent you the code for the front page, few members have joined in. And marie has brought in a new avatar as well ^^


Who thinks nel will be on of the only arrancar to actually live?

I think most the Esapdas will die (well, most already are -__-) but Nel will live since KT has drawen her as this innocent, caring Espada, while the others have no other future except stay in HM to serve Aizen. Can't imagine Grimm or Nnoi staying at Kisuke's shop, working under him

[stark espada]

first I think grimmjow is dead I mean his eyes went white that normally means dead. Second.

Yes out of all 10+ espada I think Nel,stark and halibel will be the only to return alive but I think once aizen is beat they will go back and rule HM in a fair way

[Rain]

i think nel will live on after the end of all this, but i don't think she will be the only one to

i do think she will be the only one to not be punished by SS though, and she will probably be someone who tries to keep the peace in HM after everythign is over

[stark espada]

So rain kind of the same way I think what will happen

[zero_squad]

Can I join?

@Rain: I agree with your theory. I believe that Nell will survive(Kubo won't kill one of the cutest and funniest characters) and will help the SS to keep the peace in the HM, and I think she will help Ichigo in future adventures.

[stark espada]

What if they appoint her a special caption of HM and maybe one or another espada

[Ogihci]

joinage...adult nel boobs are hawt. -^.^-

[stark espada]

Welcome to the FC ogi

[Soranushi]

Who thinks nel will be on of the only arrancar to actually live?
I do and for many reason most of which were already said in everyones posts. But One reason is because she's become one of the main characters right now for instance out of all the good guys in the HM arc. She probably has had the most notable character development thrown at us during the arc everyone else's wasn't really noticeable except Inoue's. Well that my opinion anyway and its because she's new thats why her development was easier to notice but I still believe she's one of the mains now.

The "one of the only arrancar left" that depends on what happens down the road I'm kinda expecting more than just a few to live. But this depends on what happens after the upcoming battle I believe something big is gonna go down concerning all the hybrids and it's going to involve fighting the rules again. Anyway this idea comes from the assumption that Aizen is going to make more Arrancar which he has to if he wants to defeat the Guard. Well if things dont go the way I see it then I only think Nel,Stark,Lillinette,Grimmjow,Halibel, and maybe Ulqui's+a Few Numeros will live after the battle. Well I guess we have to wait and see about this part.

[EX|pada #0]

Who thinks nel will be on of the only arrancar to actually live?

I think not. I think Grimmjow will live, and maybe Ulquiorra. Some(one) of the TOP3 may live too, since we don't know them very well to say something about.

Bu yes, Nel shall live. She had a lot of development, and I don't think Kubo will throw it all in the trash by killing her.

[Rain]

zero_squad & Ogihci- welcome to the FC

I can't say for sure whether i think she would eb the only one left (i can't imagine kubo killing off both Ulqui and GJ) but im sure nel will live, and actually be considered a good guy

[stark espada]

I think grimmjow is already dead (his eyes went white)ulquiorra has to die he is guarding hime and will not stop tell dead.

Nel should go back to adult and I can see her on aizens seat in las noches

[EX|pada #0]

Nel should go back to adult and I can see her on aizens seat in las noches

Ohhhhhh, it would be awesome! :fangirl

I'd have fangasms to death XD

[stark espada]

ExL-LOL it would be great

[zero_squad]

I think that Stark and Lillinete won't die too(I think they're not bad) and they and Nell will rule the HM. If Aizen survives, he'll escape to another place(perhaps the hell).

@stark Espada: I don't think Grimmjow is dead, he's a perfect antagonist and will help Ichigo many times in the future yet. Ulquiorra cannot die too, cuz I believe in OrihimexUlquiorra(they'll get married in the end).

The only Espada I'm quite sure that will die is Barragan(and obviously Yammi, but he's too weak that I think Chado can kill him).

NELL RULEZ

[Arrancar_Fan]

joinage...adult nel boobs are hawt. -^.^-

unofficial late welcome u perv ;)

stark espada-san: ur idea is really awesome!!!

zero_squad-san: i agree ^^ i dont think Grimm will die any soon (neither Ulqui) there to important

[stark espada]

best part is it actually seems like it could happen.

[Aizen Sousuke]

For the sake of the story, I think Grimmjow and Ulquiorra both need to die, but not necessarily right now. I think a good possibility is Grimmjow possibly helping Ichigo defeat Ulquiorra in Hueco Mundo, but dying in the process. I think Ichigo is not at a plateau yet where he can defeat Ulquiorra one on one, and therefor it will be a group effort - Nell, Zaraki, Grimmjow (maybe), etc., yielding victory, but not death for Ulquiorra. Ulquiorra can go on to serve Aizen when he attacks the king, but ultimately will have to be beaten by Ichigo at some point. He is unforgiving and merciless, and potentially a Vasto Lorde. There is no room to reason with him on viewpoints and save his life, he is not a maverick or independent like Grimmjow. He will die fighting for Aizen, and will not cower or lose his cool.

As for Stark and Halibel, I would like them to live past the upcoming battle to see more antagonist development (I also sorta like Lilinette, I wouldn't be surprised if her and Stark had some kind of relationship), but I won't be surprised if they do die.

One thing is for sure.. Nell won't die :)

[stark espada]

Well in truth I was thinking grimmjow would die that way as well. Yes that is how Ulquiorra is you see he will die like I think.

Stark and lili seem to be the more kinder ones like nel is So I really do not see either of them dieing and halibel either. Truth fully I see stark,Halibel and Nel setting up a new way of government in HM in order to make things with peace it might take some time but I think they will be the le way for a treaty with HM and the SS. Though the deepest part might not be under there power!

But if what I'm thinking is to happen Nel can not be a kid she will have to be an adult!

[Aizen Sousuke]

Well Aizen will need Stark and Halibel to help him rule once he usurps the King's position and takes over Soul Society. And honestly, there is no reason for Captain Hikifune to be mentioned if she was not going to be seen later in the manga during present time. I think it foreshadows the fact that Aizen will succeed in his plan, or at least, advance beyond the Karakura battle. It is natural for Aizen to retain some of his minions (Stark, Halibel, maybe Ulquiorra), while all the other die (the rest of the Espada, etc.). That gives him a decent foundation to build his new "empire" on, as well as still gives room for Ichigo's development as a character. Ichigo is ascending towards Aizen like one would climb a ladder. He goes from Privaron, to Sixth Espada, to potentially 4th Espada, to ????. Going from Ulquiorra to Aizen may be too big of a step.

[Lax_Duke]

Getting off-topic but I have to say, Grimm and Ulq have no future ahead of them, except, serve Aizen to take over Soul Society. Even if Grimm gets healed by Unohana or someone, and Ulq lives after the battle with Ichigo, I cannot imagine them living in Soul Society or staying in HM (meaning no bright future for them)
But with Nel its different. She is one the the former Espada I've seen that serves under Aizen and shows a very caring, gentle emotion, so strong its enough to save Ichigo. So I can tell she may end up having the better future than Ulq or Grimm. My hope is that she lives in Ichigo's closet with Rukia or his bed XDDDD

Oh, and welcome to the FC zero_squad and Ogihci

[Ogihci]

He may reach Aizen but something will stop him from defeating him, (lol as always) Nel will still be there but i don't know if she'll regain her awesomeness of remain as a kid. The top 4 won't really die, since it is assumed that they are true Vastro Lordes It will just have casualties on both sides then chigo will turn up in the town and start going emo and try rushing AIzen ans then Aizen does his thing, everyone gets the wtf look and he returns to Huecho Mundo and everyone remains bleeding. the end! in all this Nel turns back to her adult form and hugs ichigo again ^.^

[stark espada]

ok every one back on topic alright!

ok So do you think things with nel would be the way they are now or do you think she would be one of aizens evil solders?

[Ogihci]

thats a hard one, she has feelings which are not of those of the espada now, yes she followe dhim, but maybe she might one of the few who would stand against him.

[Hiraga]

ok So do you think things with nel would be the way they are now or do you think she would be one of aizens evil solders?

Of course she won't join up with Aizen again
Aizen wouldn't take her back to the espada after what she did for Ichigo and the others

[Aizen Sousuke]

Nell got her memory back, but she still has all of the experiences that she had from when she was a child with Ichigo. She's not going to go back to Aizen's side, she will stay and help Ichigo with whatever he wants.

[MOF^^]

Kubo knows very well that most of Bleach fans like Nel very much.And even if he doesn't pair our Neliel with anyone,there is one thing I'm dead sure about-she is going to stay in Bleach until the end.Not because I hope so or believe it is so,but because she has too many fans.
I would like it if she and some of the Arrancars(for instance-Lilly or Stark like somebody mentioned) could defeat Aizen and Gin.I can't stand both of them,but that's another topic anyway.Nel and the rest can just..make Hueco Mundo better.I'd like Nel to stay in Ichigo's group like a kid,but that's impossible..

[stark espada]

No when I said that I meant how do you think things would be if she never got turned into a kid by Nnoitora?

[Aizen Sousuke]

She would probably still be with Aizen. But it doesn't change the fact that she is compassionate to a degree. She doesn't do anything that is mindless and is to satiate lust. She follows Aizen's orders, and thats it, as evident through her flashbacks. On her own time, it seems she does care for Dondo and Pesshe, and also care a lot about when dinner and lunch are :)

[stark espada]

Ah so what your saying is she is still in aizens army(probably 2 at this point.) But in a since she would be in a way the nel we know and love I could see her at the espada meeting asking for something to eat rather then tea.

[Aizen Sousuke]

Yeah, I don't think her personality changed, just her allegiances, and her ability to become more personal with people as opposed to a high-ranked and highly observed leader.

[Hiraga]

No when I said that I meant how do you think things would be if she never got turned into a kid by Nnoitora?

If that's the case then I would say the same as Aizen Sousuke

@ stark
that would be funny :D
maybe she would ask for strawberry XD

(OFF: I think after this arc Aizen will serve strawberry tea in the meetings :D )

[stark espada]

hira-:rofl

aizen yeah probably right

[Miyona]

Nel was so cute cheering on "Itsugyo" last episode! And getting Inoue back in shape too:yay

Neliel would still be in Aizen's army if she wasnt turned into a kid...she never really wanted to leave in the first place.

[Arrancar_Fan]

Nel was so cute cheering on "Itsugyo" last episode! And getting Inoue back in shape too:yay


yosh, that was super adorible :p:p

Neliel would still be in Aizen's army if she wasnt turned into a kid...she never really wanted to leave in the first place.

i dont no :rolleyes: she might have been secretly rebeling. she didn't seem so pleased about finding arrancar to join or killing rebels.

[Aizen Sousuke]

But that was just Nnoitra who she was displeased with. He truly was in Nell's eyes, a beast.

[Arrancar_Fan]

thats wat i was thinking also. btu im sure the other espada had killed rebels as well. all in all, i dont think she agreed with many of Aizen's ways.

[Aizen Sousuke]

With regards to Aizen, it seems she followed his exact orders, nothing more, nothing less, and that's the way she viewed things. It was like a job, whether or not she liked it, and truth be told, the whole thing conflicts her personality. She never was a fan of fighting, but did it because she had to.

[Arrancar_Fan]

so she followed orders without question and did her job and left, without excepting the way he handels things. did i get that right ^^'''??

[stark espada]

AF-You got it right on the dot

[Aizen Sousuke]

Well that's what it seems like. She didn't do anything extra like slaughter to satiate her basic desires as a Hollow. It seems she has enough logic/reason/love to overshadow and compensate for the emptiness and hunger that dominates most basic Hollows.

[stark espada]

Yes she seems and still does like she is a level above that of an adjustus(Nnoitora) This brings up another question could that mean since she is a bit above the normal could she possible be a VL if just a weak one or could she possible have been as close to it as you get?

[Miyona]

Actually...I think Noity is stronger then her, Stark.

I dont think she is a Vastrolord....

[Rain]

I she could be just a weak VL, but I doubt it (her original form seemed more like what i'd expect from an adjuchas and not a VL) although it would be cool if she were a VL

And i don't think that menos, and especially arrancar are just like hollows in that they only try to satisfy those basic desires......upper levels of menos, and arrancar especially are too humaniod for that i think

I really want to see why she sided with Aizen to begin with, because i wouldn't have though she was originally on his side even though she was

[stark espada]

rain to answer you question I have said this before I think aizen is in a way like hitlar very good with his words and able to rally the arrancar to his side. I think she was swayed bye what he was saying to join up with him and she just happened to be strong enough to be the 3rd espada.

[Aizen Sousuke]

I think Nell is a Vasto Lorde. Not because that this his her fanclub, but because of her personality traits.

Vasto Lorde are said to be the most intelligent of all the Menos. If we look at the current set up of the Espada, there is a clear cut line between 4 and 5. Ulquiorra seems to be levels beyond Nnoitra in terms of strength. If we analyze their personalities, Ulquiorra is calm, collected, intelligent, and uses logic and reason to avoid doing senseless and irrelevant things that disregard or defy his orders and the greater good. Nnoitra on the other hand, though having his moments, is exactly the opposite. Everything to him is about his own strength, how he can prove himself, and how he can become stronger. He has a blood lust and only craves to be the best and stop all those in his way. Those ranked 3, 2, and 1, share a similar personality with Ulquiorra, while Grimmjow, Leroux, etc. seem to be more along the lines of Nnoitra. This makes, in my mind, Ulquiorra and the higher Espada Vasto Lorde, while Nnoitra and below are the masses of Adjuchas and Gillian.

If I were to put Nell in one of these two groups, she seems like she possesses the character traits of a Vasto Lorde.

[stark espada]

You see aizen agrees and has some of the same idea's I share I do also think she was much stronger back then why because she had been a child for so long I mean she just got her power and self back there is no possible way she could have complete power back just like that.

[Arrancar_Fan]

id have ta agree wit Aizen-san. Vaste Lordes are the highest rank as well as role models for the rest of the arrancar. Nell, turned adult and in the flashback, has shown traits of calmness like Ulquiorra and she seems very full of herself, irritating Nnoitra. not like its bad to be self-confident. she's obviously very smart and knows what shes talking about. even after the long time period, she still seems like a Vast Lorde (with th exception of hugging Ichigo :p:p)

[stark espada]

I agree AF and as I said every thing could not have just came back in like the blink of an eye.

[Aizen Sousuke]

I don't think she is full of herself, she just understands her position in terms of power and leadership compared to Nnoitra.

"Why do you follow me?" Nnoitra asks.

"Because you are weaker than me." Nell responds.

That's not arrogance, it's more of her taking responsibility over him, basically proving to him that she needs to watch him like a dog on a leash, because he is a savage beast.

[stark espada]

aizen again got it right on the dot to what happened. since she was stronger and he was an adjus she could have been a VL for certain once he had said that.

[Aizen Sousuke]

There is also another thing. Nell told Nnoitra that their mission was to find the Vasto Lorde.

Why would Aizen send an Adjuchas to find Vasto Lorde, when the Vasto Lorde potentially be stronger than the hybrid Adjuchas (even if it isn't a hybrid). Logically, if Aizen was to try to get Vasto Lorde to join him, he would have to send something stronger than a Vasto Lorde, which is a Vasto Lorde Arrancar. Otherwise, there is no way to demonstrate the power increase, as well as be able to subdue the Vasto Lorde if there is resistance.

[stark espada]

Aizen that is true but would a VL arrancar be stronger then a normal VL?

Nnoitora was probably looking for one to have a real challenge though they would just flick him away

[Aizen Sousuke]

If a Vasto Lorde Arrancar isn't stronger, than there is no point to hybridization.

[Arrancar_Fan]

lolz, srry to get off-topic guys but V. 2 is coming!! one more page and Nel will finally have a second version of her FC!!!

wat would the diff be between Vl arrancar and VLs??

[Aizen Sousuke]

Vasto Lorde Arrancar would have Shinigami powers and human traits/features where a normal Vasto Lorde would just be really evolved and strong, but would still be a Hollow nonetheless.

[Rain]

Stark- you becoem the new-owner right:wtf

i won't be upset if Nel is a VL

stark- Aizen is pretty damn persuasive, so anything could ahve happened i guess

AF- a VL is still a pure hollow, while a VL arrancar is a VL that has come closer to the shinigami, they would most likely be far stronger

regular VL's are stronger than an average captain

[stark espada]

True to that.

Oh also 5 more post tell then and every one be cool why I make it ok.

[myfinalheaven]

Oh gosh can I join this club. I love Nel, although the innocent child she is such a strong character even more so in the adult from. I want to see more of her the manga has been lacking Nel moments...it has intigued me and now I want to find out more xD

[Aizen Sousuke]

Seeing as how Captains can defeat a hybrid Adjuchas (Zaraki beat Nnoitra, Byakuya beat Leroux, Mayuri beat Szayel) we could deduct (with room for error) that if an Adjuchas is normally a Vice-Captain level and can compete with Captains when turned into Hybrids, then a Vasto Lorde which is stronger than a Captain to begin with, would become ridiculously strong when turned into Hybrids. A normal Vasto Lorde is probably stronger than a hybrid Adjuchas based on this evidence.