What if you're wrong? (possible spoilers?)

[Primera Espada]

All this shipping convos, and hollow evolution theories, and bankai theories got me thinking.

Take the one thing you think and want to happen the MOST in bleach.

And what if in the next chapter, it's proven wrong. Flat out, completely, irrevokably wrong. If you like IshiHime, then next chapter, Ishida comes out of the closet. If you want Ichigo to fully master his hollow side, then he turns out to completely free himself of it. If you want Gin to be a good guy, he's revealed as the ultimate mastermind.

What would you do, as a reader, if the way you think bleach is playing out turns out to be completely wrong, ruining your hopes and dreams for a story.

Would you read on? Would you hope somehow Kubo will fix it? Will you accept that you were wrong, and read anyways because you enjoy it? Or would it be SUCH a 180 on what you think the main story of bleach is, it would prove impossible for you to read on.

I'll go first.

For me, I'm thinking, really, really thinking, that Ichigo's going to have complete rejection of his hollow side, and moreso, possibly give up his shinigami powers and live as a human.

So what would destroy that idea?

If Ichigo becomes a hollow completely, by having his human body killed, and then having his spirit turned into a hollow, only to have the hou gyoku on him, making him an arrancar. That would force him to permanently be hollow/shinigami hybrid with no hope of returning to his life.

I would probably.... not really read the plot sections, but stick to the fights, since they would be awesome. But really, that would kill Ichigo's character so much I don't think I could read it. It'd be all shirosaki all the time.

There, you go.

(by the way, please, PLEASE refrain from making any sort of comments regarding what someone posts is what is most important to them in what will happen in bleach. Keep your comments relating to their action from the resulting polar opposite occurance. This means no arguing about the actual topics each person brings up, only discussing their reactions.)

I understand that this is a slippery question, I hope you all take it a bit lighthearted. I'm basically just saying "How bad can it be if we aren't right?"

[Jhaxe]

That's why I don't make predictions. I've played out so many scenarios in my head that I believe would be great alternatives to whatever Kubo is planning, but I refuse to choose one to go by...for multiple reasons.

This is one of them. I try not to get my hopes up that something WILL happen, only that it has a chance.

If we could predict everything that was going to happen in a manga, would the manga still be worth reading? If we weren't wrong in what we hoped, then would the manga really be that interesting? Would it still really be worthy of your time if you could already predict the ending?

So, in lieu of that, I try and keep my mind open. If there is something I want to happen that doesn't, I just accept it and move on. There's always fanfiction, among other possibilities.

Really, I wanted Gin to play more of a part in this arc than he has...but he hasn't. I still hold some hope that he will be involved before the arc comes to an end, possibly when they retrieve/save Rukia. If he doesn't though, it's alright.

I'm sure Kubo knows what he's doing. It's not really my place to judge the plot before it's actually over. In light of that, I still hope for a few things to come to pass in the near to far plot line, but like my hopes for Gin in this arc, if they don't, than I'll just accept it and keep on reading.

[debbiechan]

Haha. Kubo has thrown me some curve balls before, but the basic stuff seems fairly predictable--Ichigo gets stronger, characters learn important lessons, the villains have too much sadistic fun, no one who is funny and/or likable will die... (that doesn't bode well for Hime, actually. <.< At this point, I'm 50/50 on predicting her death in Bleach).

So, as long as the basic formula goes along the way it should, I'm happy.

As for my ships, I have no doubt about them :D IchiRuki will be canon by the end of the manga; IshiHime will be strongly implied, and Ishida will only be gay in the fangirls' fantasies.

[spacecat]

I already think nothing I want to happen in Bleach will happen and so I doubt I'm gonna care when it really doesn't. I've already been let down so many times that now I just expect to be. I'd be more surprised if something did go how I want and yeah I think I can deal with that :p. I don't really ship hardcore and all my fav characters are destined to die or have their character turn good which for me would be almost just as bad. So yeah if you already lost your expectations I don't think you can be really disappointed. :(

[Cezaria]

Well, apparently Luppi had a large fan following in Japan before...erm...THAT happened.

So, nothing can ever be for certain anymore...I've found so far that nothing I've seen predicted on the internet had ever been wholly proven to be true.

So...UlquiHime might actually be canon! (No fodder :>)

pleaseshoottheshamelessshipper

Like...the latest rumour I've hear is that Chad is a hollow/human mix...Which is farfetched but not entirely unlikely o.o

[Mei]

If Rukia shouldn´t end up with Ichigo, then I want her to find happiness
with Renji for example. I could really live with that.
But Kubo should write it out in a very good, credible way,
so that I won´t have to think in the end: "what, huh, no way, disgusting...."
It should fit the whole Bleach universe and shouldn´t
ruin the personality and credibility of the main cast.
If nothing shippy will happen in the end, well, that´d be
alright for me as well, because that´s just the risk of reading Shounen.

Please take the following lighthearted:
I think I couldn´t handle it so easily if IchiHime happened.
Probably I would stop reading Bleach completely and
just follow the newest chapters for its art.
I don´t know, but it´d be just so wrong for me.
(this is not meant to offend IchiHime shippers;
it´s just my humble pov; I respect your fandom
and can understand your feelings regarding this ship)

[Mz D]

I take the predictions as just for fun. If my OP doesn't happen I won't be put off Bleach as I love the twists and turns it's already done. If my favourite character dies or isn't paired off with who I want them to be I will try to accept it.

It was the same for Rorouni Kenshin, the character I really liked and wanted more of died. But he died in such a cool way that I forgave the mangaka. The same applies for Bleach if it's well written I don't care if my favourite outcomes don't happen. That is what fanart and fanfiction is for in my view.

Being too serious about predictions takes the fun out of it. I was wrong about what Grimmjow wanted Orihime for but it was no big deal. I come to these forums to discuss these kinds of predictions and put forward theories about what could happen.

I like reading what people think could happen, I never expect them all to be 100% right but it's enjoyable talking and discussing it. (Not the flaming parts but I avoid those types of forums and threads)

[furato]

My pet theory is about Rukia and Hisana's origins. But it's not something so important so if I'm wrong I'm just gonna shrug and read on.

As for pairings, if RenRuki doesn't happen I'm gonna sulk for a few days, maybe join a grieving thread in one of the FC/communities, then shrug and read on. And hunt for fanfic.

In the end, it's not about whether you predict wrong or right that matters, it's about how Kubo writes the actual stuff and whether it aligns with my preference. I can be wrong and still like it: example is during SS arc I thought Urahara was the real mastermind. It wasn't, I was wrong, but his actual twist was much better than what I thought. Example out of Bleach is Fruits Basket: I didn't like Machi when she first appear because I don't like the way she's presented as rebound material for Yuki; in the end, she is rebound material but along the way I find things that makes her better for Yuki than Tooru, and I fell in love with the pairing.

Even if we think something's not right, or out of place in the Bleach world, what he writes IS the Bleach universe, that's Kubo's prerogative. If I don't like it, I can say he suck (or be fair and say he don't suck but our tastes are clearly different) and won't spend my money on his work anymore, that's my prerogative.

[emoloz]

I don't really guess anymore because Kubo is quiet unpredictable with what he does there just no point you might as well live for today with his work and not for tommorow as i say. He changes stuff around a bit much or he leads a trail on for a little while and you never know when hes just about to jump into the next stage. I mean some parts you can kinda guess but most of the time your never 100% correct. No one ever is.

[Rain]

I actually want to be wrong, and I'd be drawn to Bleach even more. There are so many shows that I watch where I can usually predict what will happen, it can get boring. Bleach isn't one of those, I don't usually know what will happen next.

Also, since this is a manga nothing is set in stone. People can die and come back to life, so no character is completely written out. Even romantic pairings can change, so no relationship between 2 people (like Ichiruki) means there can't be another (like Ichihime).

[Shinrin]

Well then the story would be closer to what i expected it to be.

[Velius]

Well, apparently Luppi had a large fan following in Japan before...erm...THAT happened.

Yea, you're right, because most of the people thought he was a chick! lmao.

Predicting is all for fun. No one knows what's going to happen. If they did, this wouldn't be fun. Everyone can be and more then likely will be wrong at some point about something. No big deal.

[Sapphire Star]

Well the thing that would crush me the most is if IchiRuki didn't turn out like AT ALL. I would be very idsappointed. BUT I think I would still keep reading regardless. ^^

[Sergelia]

Well, I do want IchiRuki to happen - and I do EXPECT it to. But what if my #1 wish and expectation in general, that Urahara is the Main Badguy (tm) turned out to be wrong? Hm...

I'd be somewhat confused, you know. All this time I expected him to come out as Bleach's devil, with Yoruichi as his Dark Queen (tm). But I'd definitely keep on reading in hope for Kubo to stun me with something more original and more unexpected. I think he can do better than me as far as his plot goes, so I don't think of my predictions too highly. ^__^

My #2 prediction, that IchiRuki will happen (in whatever way or sort; even as very-close-friends-with-strongly-implied-romantic-intentions), being crushed? No WAI, dude. Impossibility. If it were crushed, however, I'd call Japanese 911 (or whatever they have there) and ask them kindly to check if Kubo Tite was being threatened and taken hold of by evil terrorists. Or aliens.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, I'd just keep on reading for the fights (and characters), and laugh. Laugh a lot. No IchiRuki? It could only ever be compensated by Rukia becoming the Queen of Universe and Ichigo being her main swordsman or something. Nothing else, period.

[Sapphire Star]

Well, I do want IchiRuki to happen - and I do EXPECT it to. But what if my #1 wish and expectation in general, that Urahara is the Main Badguy (tm) turned out to be wrong? Hm...

I'd be somewhat confused, you know. All this time I expected him to come out as Bleach's devil, with Yoruichi as his Dark Queen (tm). But I'd definitely keep on reading in hope for Kubo to stun me with something more original and more unexpected. I think he can do better than me as far as his plot goes, so I don't think of my predictions too highly. ^__^

My #2 prediction, that IchiRuki will happen (in whatever way or sort; even as very-close-friends-with-strongly-implied-romantic-intentions), being crushed? No WAI, dude. Impossibility. If it were crushed, however, I'd call Japanese 911 (or whatever they have there) and ask them kindly to check if Kubo Tite was being threatened and taken hold of by evil terrorists. Or aliens.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, I'd just keep on reading for the fights (and characters), and laugh. Laugh a lot. No IchiRuki? It could only ever be compensated by Rukia becoming the Queen of Universe and Ichigo being her main swordsman or something. Nothing else, period.


I agree completely with your edit? And you really think Urahara is the main baddie? Now THAT'S interesting. Have to say i've never seen that prediction before. xD

[Saffire]

I theorize quite a bit and I do have visions of how I'd like the manga to go, but I tend to avoid investing a lot of emotion into them. If it's right, awesome. If it's wrong, darn. I recognize that ultimately, this isn't my story and if something happens that goes against what I would've liked, then that's my problem, not Kubo's.

Though if Yachiru doesn't get more screentime, I might have to go smack him. :p

[Inuhanyou]

Well its not a very hard question to answer really, if your wrong about somthing ,well your just wrong. I've been wrong about many things regarding my favorite series's before.. But i've(somewhat) managed to find my way past it and enjoy the thing for what it is -twitch-. Even if your blunder is shoved down your throat every time you read a page.

Ya cant be 100% sure about every single thing, that would just set your own self up for disappointment. But many things in this series i CAN be sure of such as..

Tousen will always be blind.
Chad will always be tall.
Hollows will always exist.

Things like this are constant and never changing.

Everything else is pending investigation and can change at anytime during the course of the manga.

[Velius]

Tousen is blind. But then, he is also not blind. lol. He has made many comments on 'seeing' stuff. lmao. ah Kubo....

You could go either way with that one and still be right. ha.

I have a feeling the person(s) this was directed at won't be responding....

[Primera Espada]

Wow, I post, go to bed, and when I get back, 2 pages XD

Anywho, thanks for everyone sharing their opinions, a lot of them were refreshing.

For future posters though, if you're going to say "why predict? No point in that" well, we allready have 6 people saying that, we don't need a 7th, I think we get the point by now XD. This is more for the people who do entertain themselves by predicting.

Thanks everyone, and keep on posting.

[Rain]

This topic is "what if you're wrong" and in the first post Primera Espada asked if you'd stop reading if you were wrong. My answer is no but I though about what it would take (in the bleach universe) to get me to stop reading. The only thing i could come up with is.....

None of this ever happened. Some random person wakes up and this whole story turns out to be a dream. There are no such things as shinigami, hollows, quincies or people with superpowers. The main cast are just people in this persons normal boring life. If this ever happened I would stop reading bleach forever.

[HinataFan]

I always note that in every fandom, that I have encountered, there's always this group who is so sure about what is going to happen like they are the creator of the series themselves. I am guilty of that sometimes...

Only the creator knows exactly who will end up with whom so I am just going to sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride.

Maybe even he has not decided just yet...I surely don't know.

I love this franchise to much to turn my back on it for being burned on the shipping front. :o

[Sergelia]

:rolleyes: I fail to see the purpose of posting that. You haven't answered the thread's question.


Anyway, as for the supposed "originality" of the Urahara-is-Ebil theory, heh, I get the impression it's quite popular. I saw it in some random forum I've lurked through, and so far I think it's veeeery likely. But if I turned out to be wrong, well then... I'd be a bit sad, but nothing much more.

Ooh, and I had one more theory going on -- again, a popular one; that Sado is going to become an Arrancar. It's time Chad got some spotlight, yo! :yell If that's not the case, however, then well - Kubo will have to try harder to make Chad's character interesting. So far... what was the point of it? He used to be my second favorite up till the middle of SS arc, but, thinking back at it, what was Chad's true purpose as a character? So basically, if I turned out to be wrong, I'd just think "Kubo has a LOT of explaining and development to do. *nods* "
Bleach is... a good manga. I wouldn't just turn my back on it, despite of possible theory-shipping-whatever disappointment.

[Riekie]

Then I'll shoot myself right here and now.

Nehh...I don't think I'll be much upset..I like twists and turns..so that's good! Ofcourse I'd like to see certain things happen..but once it does, it's not that fun anymore IMHO.

I trust KT enough that he'll deliver an awesome outcome for everything involving the plot.

[Syn]

I have a lot of pet theories.
I first thought that Ichigo was going to give up his powers, at the end, and then Kubo showed ch00a, and that theory went to the trashbin XD
I see a lot of flaws in SS and I believe that SS is bound to change (for example integrating the Vaizards amongst them). I also believe that Ichigo will live in SS (it may be at the end of the manga or after that). The fact that his father is a shinigami who came to earth made me think that to close the loop (and yes, I also believe that IchiRuki will happen).
I have pet theories about why Urahara chose Rukia over anyone else to hide the Hougyoku, why Gin loves to torture her so much too. I have pet theories about the Espadas (ah and I thought for the longest time that Ulq was #5 lol XD).
I have pet theories about a lot of things (though I lack some on Aizen... we know too few about him :/), I don't expect all of them to become true, but I somehow expect the first one to come true, yes.

[Sapphire Star]

:rolleyes: I fail to see the purpose of posting that. You haven't answered the thread's question. .

lol I think they did just indirectly. They said:

I wouldn't just turn my back on it, despite of possible theory-shipping-whatever disappointment

Which at least I'm assuming means that if she's WRONG about the couples she's shipping for then she'll still watch/read Bleach because it's still good stuff regardless.

^^

[Sergelia]

@Sapphire Star -- I suppose you are right. I apologize to Hinata-fan if that is the case; I can be a little... ahem, sometimes. Blame it on my genes... bitchiness is inheritable here. xD


And, well, it's not like I haven't had a theory of mine crushed already - I'm talking about Ulquiorra turning out to be the Fourth Espada. I jumped to conclusions and like many fellow fangirls suspected him to be the First. Still, it only did to improve my view on Kubo's storytelling abilities - he's not as predictable as most manga-kas. So I basically gave the man kudos for proving me wrong.

[HinataFan]

:rolleyes: I fail to see the purpose of posting that. You haven't answered the thread's question.


Anyway, as for the supposed "originality" of the Urahara-is-Ebil theory, heh, I get the impression it's quite popular. I saw it in some random forum I've lurked through, and so far I think it's veeeery likely. But if I turned out to be wrong, well then... I'd be a bit sad, but nothing much more.

Ooh, and I had one more theory going on -- again, a popular one; that Sado is going to become an Arrancar. It's time Chad got some spotlight, yo! :yell If that's not the case, however, then well - Kubo will have to try harder to make Chad's character interesting. So far... what was the point of it? He used to be my second favorite up till the middle of SS arc, but, thinking back at it, what was Chad's true purpose as a character? So basically, if I turned out to be wrong, I'd just think "Kubo has a LOT of explaining and development to do. *nods* "
Bleach is... a good manga. I wouldn't just turn my back on it, despite of possible theory-shipping-whatever disappointment.I fail to care if you didn't. Did you even start this thread?

I posted in the last paragraph that I would love this franchise to much to turn my back on it because of getting burned on the shipping(Ichihime) front.

[Sapphire Star]

I fail to care if you didn't. Did you even start this thread?

I posted in the last paragraph that I would love this franchise to much to turn my back on it because of getting burned on the shipping(Ichihime) front.

Woah there! http://bleachflame.com/forums/images/smilies/newsmilies/sweatdrop.gif

Hang on she apologized I believe....I explained what you meant and she noticed that she misinterpereted your post. K?

*releases sigh* No need to get defensive....we're not accusing you of anything. ^^

[Primera Espada]

Syn, you didn't actually say how you would react when those don't come true XD

Also, what about 00a made you think he wouldn't give up his powers? Since giving up his powers is one of my theories, I wanna know if it's been pre-crushed XD

[Syn]

I think no way in hell Ichigo will give up his powers because he craves for them. It's only with them that he can protect and be fully himself. In ch00a we see an Ichigo who wants to protect but can't do anything; and then in Bleach, we see him grow, protect, need more power to protect, etc. Him, giving up his powers? No way. And it's just what his hollow side is there for too: so that he doesn't give up, ever. Or he'll take control. Ch00a+the chapters where he fights his hollow side are really the chapters that made me drop that idea for good.

And well, some of my theories have already been crushed, and I'm still there. My biggest theory will probably happen by the end though, so it's unlikely that I drop Bleach before that :p (boredom could though).

[Primera Espada]

Yah, as much as I like grimmjow, if my theory of "the Ichi/Grimmjow fight ends and there's resolution between the characters" doesn't come true SOON, well, I might just stop reading >>

[Byakuya]

Byakuya will take on all espada members at the same time, kill Aizen, kick Ichigo out of the story and it will be renamed The Adventures of Kuchiki Byakuya.

Are you telling me this could be wrong?

[Dice]

Byakuya will take on all espada members at the same time, kill Aizen, kick Ichigo out of the story and it will be renamed The Adventures of Kuchiki Byakuya.

Are you telling me this could be wrong?

QFT :love :love

I agree the story will go this direction. :yay :yay. Byakuya and Rukia traveling together throughout the countryside ~nyaaaaa :inlove :inlove

Who needs boring characters like Ichigo when there is Byakuya. :yell :yell

What a wonderful post, Byakun. :cool:

[Ileenka]

This thread serves as a purpose to wonder about things that have not come to be. So according to Primera Espada's opening post, which I quote as:

I understand that this is a slippery question, I hope you all take it a bit lighthearted. I'm basically just saying "How bad can it be if we aren't right?"


Bya-kun's statement is truly light-hearted and fits in every way of 'what if it is wrong'. :love :love People should be more humourous like Bya-kun :yell :yell

So allow me to go next. What if Orihime slips on a banana peel next chapter and falls face first down the cliff, expecting to hit onto the the hard rock of Las Noches, only to be caught by a wandering and sprinting Noitora out of nowhere? :nuts Then again she could be caught by Ulquiorra who escapes his dimension just in time, catching her bridal style. :inlove

Such sweet hypotheses.

[Sergelia]

I see. So. This is war. Yep. Bring't on.
NoiOri FAILS so bad; he acknowledges her body and soul are truly owned by Uqlui-kun. >..< yes, he does. And yes, they are. He seemingly transferred the ownership to Aizen, but in all truth that's only because he expects to elope with Hime and live a happy life in the Hueco Mundo's suburbs. >__>

No banana peels in LasNoches (tm), Ileenka, nope. I have a feeling Nell will go eeeebil and stuck out a foot in front of Hime, who will eventually trip over and fall into Ulqui's loving hands. *nods*

But if I'm wrong she can just keep on standing there, I don't mind...

Byakuya, you're my hero.

[Guildenstern]

Anyway, as for the supposed "originality" of the Urahara-is-Ebil theory, heh, I get the impression it's quite popular. I saw it in some random forum I've lurked through, and so far I think it's veeeery likely.

If Urahara doesn't turn out to be hock-deep in all this nonsense I will eat an entire chocolate cake. By myself.

In fact, if I'm wrong about the destination Bleach is heading towards I will eat several chocolate cakes. Over the course of a week. This is how deep my conviction runs.

Now, if I'm right I will also eat several large chocolate cakes. In celebration. Celebration of being not only chubby in future, but right.

No sacrifice is too great. Especially when the sacrifice is having to eat cake. Witness the blazing, rich chocolate-y depths of my sincerity! :cry

Also Byakuya/Rukia on the road together a la 'Kung Fu: The Legend Continues' only less platonic is kind of hot.

[experimentchoco]

If I proved to be wrong in my IchiRUki worship, I would probably be incredibly angry. Though, to me IchiRuki seems too right to be wrong, but that might be my ego stepping forward.

If my theory of Grimmjow becoming part of the good guys is wrong and he dies trying to stop Ichigo, I'm probably be sad. But that theory can easily be wrong.

[Primera Espada]

okay, thank you guildenstern for pulling the focus back on what I asked.

This is not a predictions thread, people.

This is a "how will you react" thread.

several of you have gone off on a tangent.

I appreciate the lightheartedness, but now you're just making fun =/

[Dice]

okay, thank you guildenstern for pulling the focus back on what I asked.

This is not a predictions thread, people.

This is a "how will you react" thread.

several of you have gone off on a tangent.

I appreciate the lightheartedness, but now you're just making fun =/

EH???? :headscratch Several of us have gone off on a tangent? How So?

As you can see from our very happy posts filled with bright colorful smileys :yay :yay, we will be dreadfully heartbroken if our predictions don't come true considering the amount of enthusiasm and love put into our posts. :cry :cry

I thought that was blatantly obvious. :headscratch :headscratch

Also I would like to say:

ULQUIHIME is canon! CANON! :yell :yell

Another thing that I will not be wrong about. :inlove :inlove

[Annie]

I never think about how I would react because I'm always right *is smug*. But if something I want doesn't happen I'll do what Guild suggested, go and have chocolate cake is the best way to heal the disappointment.

[Ileenka]

Dice! :eek: Great post! :love



This is not a predictions thread, people.

This is a "how will you react" thread.



If that's the purpose of this thread, then it can be simply summarised in a few posts. By common sense, there are only a few possibilites.

If people end up being proven wrong in their predictions, they would either:

1. Disappear from the forum forever and not show their face again, :headscratch or
2. Pretend nothing has happened and moved on, :headscratch or
3. Hoping that people would forget about their posts and try to act they were actually right, :headscratch or
4. Put the blame on the author and whine about how they ought to be right instead, :headscratch or
5. Admit their wrong judgement graciously and move on. :yay

These are very likely the most common reactions one would expect. This thread is not very interesting. I'm not sure how you can expect people not to put in a few humourous predictions every now and then, also I do not see how are any of the posts off tangent. :nuts This is the General section anyway. :lmao


And Dice, :love :love YOU ARE SO RIGHT! :yell :yell

:yay CANON!!! :yay

[spacecat]

If people end up being proven wrong in their predictions, they would either:

2. Pretend nothing has happened and moved on, or
3. Hoping that people would forget about their posts and try to act they were actually right, or
4. Put the blame on the author and whine about how they ought to be right instead, or
5. Admit their wrong judgement graciously and move on.

Yes this is true, I have already done all of those, as for number 1..in your dreams ppl ahahahaha :rotflmao

[Sergelia]

Well I'd do a combination of 1, 4 and 5. ^__^ Depends on how I feel. Maybe I'm even half-hoping KT will betray me so I can stop wasting my time on Internet.

However the way things are going... NO WAI. :nuts My preds WILL prevail.

Oh, and chocolate cake is not the best solution... I eat too much of it anyway, so it would not do much to heal my shattered hopes.

[Guildenstern]

okay, thank you guildenstern for pulling the focus back on what I asked.

This is not a predictions thread, people.

This is a "how will you react" thread.

several of you have gone off on a tangent.

I appreciate the lightheartedness, but now you're just making fun =/

I'm putting the focus back on the important issues-- how much goddamn cake all fans of Bleach should be currently/in future ingesting, and what kinds. Chocolate cake is a very serious issue and I'll thank you all to treat it with the gravity it deserves. Even the colour of the cake, a rich somber dark brown, provokes serious judge-like grave discussions and hallows the very thread in which it is invoked. Away with your lighthearted banter, peasants!

...OK, I'm done now. /ducks

On a more topical note, yeah, there's only so many variations of "If ________ doesn't happen I'll get smashing drunk and play strip mahjong over the internets using my laptop and the WiFi at the airport!" that can be posted. Eventually people are going to branch off. XD

...Urahara is still totally behind 70% of this. Totally.

[Primera Espada]

lol, for the sake of argument then, I'll throw this out there.

If my prediction of Renji becoming captain doesn't happen, I'll be rather confused, honestly.

As Kubo has built him up to be a leader in the latest arcs (read: feild commander, not hero) and how he's the only vice captain with bankai, and even the argument about ikkaku being captain and refusing tends to lean to the idea that Renji will fill one of those gaps.

It would disappoint me if the spots are all filled by the Vices of those squads. Hisagi's okay though, but then again, he got waxed by a 5th seat XD.

gettin the idea guys?

step 1: What do you predict
step 2: How would you feel if it's wrong
step 3: Why it would affect you that way.

Mind you, I love some of the jokes, like the running cake joke, but, like guildenstern did, post something topic related in addition to silly comments, is all I ask.

[Beee]

Well I have been wrong many times already..(ex : I thought DeiRoy would kickass...) I guess I just try to keep in mind than my guesses and theories are just that : Guesses/theories ;)

I'll continue reading even if I'm wrong ;) the only reason I can possibly stop reading a manga is if something I really don't like happens (like in Death Note... but I still read it till the end but I'm not sure I'll ever read it again O_O;; )

[Rain]

Lets see if I can do this:

I predict Inoue will fight and win in an important fight

I'd feel somewhat upset (I won't cry though)

Inoue deserves a win, and a strong as her "healing" is I think it would be a huge waste if her only power to delevop is her "healing"

[cleodux]

Oh reading other members comment is somewhat fun.

step 1: Usually i never predict or create a very dark or deep theories on those mangas that i read. One of my interesting theory is Ichigo's mom still alive and kicking, and somehow she is part of the royal family >_< (also Isshin,Ryuuken and her involve in the love triangle thingiee muhahahhaha) Anyway... i am not sad if that will not happen. About the shipping I will say IchiRuki at the end, if somewhat they can not be together because of time, place, condition, i am still ok at least we are all know that they love each other or something like that. If IchiHime somehow start in the middle of the plot...

step 2: I swear i will stop reading(at once) and deleted all my Bleach collections(scanlations) and donate my mangas away. And i will become a troll and go spamming on all Bleach forum that i can find lol.

I can not take too much chocolate cake(although i like it) but i can eat ice cream instead :o

step 3: Because no point to read the story, no matter how good the story or fighting or supporting character what so ever. First... my fav canon pair is not coming true, and my 2nd fav also not coming true, where is the point left?

IchiRuki :hug
UlyHime :yell

Well I have been wrong many times already..(ex : I thought DeiRoy would kickass...) I guess I just try to keep in mind than my guesses and theories are just that : Guesses/theories ;)

I'll continue reading even if I'm wrong ;) the only reason I can possibly stop reading a manga is if something I really don't like happens (like in Death Note... but I still read it till the end but I'm not sure I'll ever read it again O_O;; )

Actually i stop reading right after L "you know what" and sneak a peek on other vol, but i never read finish.

[manfan]

If I'm wrong......I would be very happy and sad.

If I'm right.....I go and shoot Kubo Tite.;)

[Luhy]

I really want to see Nel turn back into her adult form...

If shes stuck as a child with none of her old memories (before being first turned into a child) I'd feel my heart a sink a bit out of feeling sorry for her ; ; Nel is awesome and she's the most moral and caring 'bad guy' out there... hate seeing bad things happen to good people, especially adorable psycho ones~

[Ninira]

I would like it if Nel could remember all the sacrifices that Pesshe and Don have made for her. I'd be a bit sad if she didn't, but maybe she'd be happier that way...

If IchiHime or RenRuki didn't happen, it wouldn't be much skin off of my nose. HOWEVER, I do not want Orihime's and Renji's apparent affection to be tossed off the face of the earth and just have them thrown to Ishida/Byakuya/Tatsuki, etc. I want them to be sanely resolved in that case, and if IchiRuki does happen, I don't want it to be because Hime or Renji die. If Orihime and Renji's feelings weren't resolved, I'd be pretty pissed.

But on the other hand, I don't think there's anything that could make me stop reading Bleach. I stopped reading DN because the driving dynamic was torn apart. I couldn't bring myself to read it afterwards. However, because there isn't really a main driving dynamic in Bleach, a lot of things could happen and I would be fine. Even if my favorite characters died, I think I'd still be okay.

[WatanukiXXX]

All of my predictions have proven to be wrong anyway but it doesn't stop me from making more:D

What is unpredictable has been the fate of the villains and they happen to be my primary interest (in Bleach anyway). Blame it on Kubo for making such attractive character designs for the folks the heroes are meant to kill off <shrugs>

I was upset that Tesla died. Similarly when Luppi died. I felt they were just wasted for no real reason.

Now I only have 2 main concerns. That Stark and Wonderwice survive till the end and they are powerful. If those two come true I am a happy bunny.

[Orihime-Chan]

I already think nothing I want to happen in Bleach will happen and so I doubt I'm gonna care when it really doesn't. I've already been let down so many times that now I just expect to be. I'd be more surprised if something did go how I want and yeah I think I can deal with that :p. I don't really ship hardcore and all my fav characters are destined to die or have their character turn good which for me would be almost just as bad. So yeah if you already lost your expectations I don't think you can be really disappointed. :(
Awww :glomp Don't lose hope yet XD they can still live and keep on being evil! An open ending anyone?!


All I wanted to happen has already did! Hime gave me more than I could hope for! Fabulous moments with every character she meets along the way!! And she's still making more! :p
If and only if Kubo kills her (which I highly doubt) I'll be too sad that I'll stop reading Bleach for a long while! I'd probably check it once in a while to see what happened to the other characters and such...

[.access timeco.]

I predict Tousen will become a Vaizard and own big time! Or just become a Vaizard and make me have major fangasms when he puts his mask on.

If he dies before it, specially if he is killed by Kenpachi or Grimmjow... I would pray for Shawlong to be alive in Rukongai and throw all my hopes upon him.

And then, if we discover that Arrancar are not purified, but destroyed by zanpakutou... man, that would suck so damn much :~

[07Janina07]

If my predictions where not to come true I will...bake cakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


No seriously I would probably be depressed but it all depends really. I know Kubo is ambigous but so far he has been consistentwith certains things that I am happy over so I don't really worried.

[Lady Mizura]

If IchiRuki SUPERNOVA :yell didn't happen, first, I'd cry. But then I'd smile because I'm guessing there will still be love :love

[Mad_Scientist]

I have a lot of theories and ideas, but there's not a single main prediction or theory of mine that I am really that dedicated to. That said, there's something I really want to happen, though it's more of a hope than a specific theory. It is further development of Gin's backstory and his relationship with Matsumoto.

I really like Gin for some reason, and there are many different ways Kubo can take the character. He can make Gin the ultimate mastermind behind it all and the true main villian behind Aizen, he can make Gin an actual good guy who isn't truly evil, he can make Gin just what he seems to be, Aizen's loyal second-in-command. Any one of those and I'll be happy, as long as it is handled well. And depending on what happens with Gin, there are many different ways his relationship with Matsumoto can be taken, and again, as long is it is further developed and expanded upon in a good manner, I'll probably be at least somewhat happy.

But what if it isn't? Ichigo and company is about to escape Hueco Mundo, when suddenly Gin shows up to stop them. But then Hitsugaya shows up saying "I'm going to KILL you Gin!" and after an extremely short and anti-climatic fight in which Gin displays an unremarkable bankai, he is killed. And that's it. Not further development of Gin ever, no further flashbacks or memories. Even worse, we don't even see Matsumoto's reaction to being told the news of Gin's death, and we never see a single thought of her's on the matter, and their entire relationship is pretty much discarded and forgotten about, without any explanation.

If something like that happened, I'd be very disappointed, to put it mildy. I doubt it would stop me from reading the manga (by itself at least), but Bleach would almost certainly drop to my least favorite manga, out of those I actually bother to read that is. I'd probably never shown another ship FC here either. :D

[lookingback7]

You know, I feel exactly the same way about Gin/Ran. ^ As a matter of fact if KT took the alleged time off the HM arc to go into THEIR backstory, I'd cheer (and I really don't want him to leave this arc until we see Ulquiorra again).

I feel the same way about Uqlui/Hime as I do Gin/Ran. Another couple that KT seems to be surprised by the reaction to.

Plotwise I can see the same thing happening to Ichigo that apparently happened to Isshin. He loses his powers and goes back to the human world to live a normal life - until his wife is killed by a hollow and his son gains shinigami powahs!! I don't really want that to happen though. I'd rather have him become a hollow because it appeals to my sense of tragedy. :p

See, the thing is, KT needs to realize that all of his character are very compelling and he can't treat any of them as throwaways (not the he does, generally). That's the only thing that would really upset me about Bleach - if KT seriously betrayed any of his awesome characters - by that I don't mean killing them, killing them is ok as long as it's an epic death.

[Katty008]

One thing that I find kind of funny is this: A) Nobody except multitudes of hollows even died until the Karakura arc, and even then they weren't all that important and didn't have much screen time until they did die. And B), Ichigo's main driving point is always a girl. He's like the movie James Bond, except not so kick butt.

One thing that's driving me insane is Inoue's plan to use her powers to deny the Hougyoku's existence. I know I tend to overthink things, but wouldn't that create a time warp? If the Hougyoku had never existed, then Urahara never would have put it in Rukia, and Rukia may or may not have ever had to give Ichigo her power, but even if she had Aizen and Urahara wouldn't have done their plotting and Rukia would have goen back to Sereitei without anyone the wiser and Inoue wouldn't have developed her powers and thus not had the powers to deny the Hougyoku's existence, so the Hougyoku would exist, lather, rinse, repeat. Though I can't quite see Bleach ending with the shattering of the time-space continuem.

[Bleu]

Bleach is twists and turns.

If the things we want to happen didnt, then it would still be bleach. its just another turn in the story.

I would'nt stop reading bleach, infact, i'd be even more interested.

That just proves how great a writer KT is! [=

But, the things that we want proves that our fandom is true. We have gotton to such a level that we have begun to hope, and wish. & thats a great compliment for bleach, and kubo tite. He really has an awesome story going on here.

[EX|pada #0]

One thing that I find kind of funny is this: A) Nobody except multitudes of hollows even died until the Karakura arc, and even then they weren't all that important and didn't have much screen time until they did die. And B), Ichigo's main driving point is always a girl. He's like the movie James Bond, except not so kick butt.

One thing that's driving me insane is Inoue's plan to use her powers to deny the Hougyoku's existence. I know I tend to overthink things, but wouldn't that create a time warp? If the Hougyoku had never existed, then Urahara never would have put it in Rukia, and Rukia may or may not have ever had to give Ichigo her power, but even if she had Aizen and Urahara wouldn't have done their plotting and Rukia would have goen back to Sereitei without anyone the wiser and Inoue wouldn't have developed her powers and thus not had the powers to deny the Hougyoku's existence, so the Hougyoku would exist, lather, rinse, repeat. Though I can't quite see Bleach ending with the shattering of the time-space continuem.

Oh my goshes, that's sooooooooooooooo true! I'm surprised that I never thought about it.

Well, I'm not an expert in theories (Most in argue against them LOL XD *Love to piss the others off*), but if someone of my TOP 5 fav characters die, I would cry. Oh, and if IchiRuki not happen too! :cry *fangirl*

[AnimeFantasyFan]

But what if it isn't? Ichigo and company is about to escape Hueco Mundo, when suddenly Gin shows up to stop them. But then Hitsugaya shows up saying "I'm going to KILL you Gin!" and after an extremely short and anti-climatic fight in which Gin displays an unremarkable bankai, he is killed. And that's it. Not further development of Gin ever, no further flashbacks or memories. Even worse, we don't even see Matsumoto's reaction to being told the news of Gin's death, and we never see a single thought of her's on the matter, and their entire relationship is pretty much discarded and forgotten about, without any explanation.

I must agree. As a fan, I really want KT to get to his points- he's good at tying up loose ends, so fortunately I don't see something like that happening.

I want to know what what his deal was with Matsumoto, and I really want to know the "why" of his oh-so-cracky relationship with Rukia too. That plothole would severely damage my faith in KT as an artist. :cry

[Bleu]

Well i really do hope that doesnt happen O_O as i am a huge fan of Gin, and ginran xD

But, you never can really tell with KT. But i doubt he would do that to his characters. Gin is an important character, why just kill him off like some hollow?

[cheez]

Well I've been wrong about all my predictions so far
Thinking that Zommar would either be number 1 or 2 and be kick ass, I had such high hope for him :cry
I have two predictions that I would like to come true.
My crack predictions of Ichigo's mother being a hollow and Ichigo having to killer her at some point
My other crack prediction of Orihime overthrowing Aizen and becoming the main protagonist.
If these don't come true then I'll be sad like with the fate of Zommari, but I'll keep on reading Bleach if it keeps my interest.

[Hiraga]

I have a feeling, that Grimmjow will join Ichi and co.
Other prediction: the old espada will turn out to be Sado's grandpa...
About Ichigo, after he will go back to the real world, his father will tell him that he was a shinigami XD