Something that came up during the GrandFisher fight

[Escobar]

the original grandfisher fight..

i don't know where this belongs but..i figured here..

the way ichigo's mom worded her final wish, didn't sound like something a "mother" would say per se..

could it be telling us something to look foward to in the future? maybe she wasn't his mom? maybe isshin isn't his pop either?

[krompt]

Can you please supply the information of the "final wish" for futher disscussion? Like what it was exactly XP

[Escobar]

Grandfishers' lure remembered the mother's dying wish

"Ichigo, im so proud ..

Dad, Karin, Yuzu...and you ichigo..

im truly proud to have known you

Ichigo, live , be strong, be gentle and smile

Ichigo, thank you"

[krompt]

Yeah it does sound like she was not supposed to be the mother but a guardian angel for the family or something. But i doubt it, i still think it is his real mom, you may chose otherwise XP

[Escobar]

you may be right and i may be just looking to into it..but you could agree with the fact that what she said is a little different from what you would assume a mother would say..

either way...like i said i may be looking into it too much..i mean..look at the way isshin acts with him,...maybe it's just the regular in the kurosaki household lol

[Shinrin]

Easy answer i presume:

Ichigo's mother never appeared in that fight.


GF did make his other half look like her, but that is all, Her soul interfeering is anime only



Also I still assume Masaki died 10 years ago and not by GF

6 years ago a substitute Masaki got killed by GF(Likely a modsoul)

[Riekie]

Huh..how do you come to that conclusion Shinrin?

[Shinrin]

Which part?


If it's my asumtion about Masaki's death then:
It's the only way i see for neither Ichigo nor Isshin having lied. To make the answer short

[Gintoki]

Well, Urahara asked Isshin if he finally got his revenge against GF, so there should be some lead towards this. I don't think there's something Urahara's not aware of.

[krompt]

*returns*
He might of meant getting revenge on GF for making Ichigo's life hell without his Mom, not neccessarily killing her, if that was the case i think he would have gone after GF right after Her death.

[Shinrin]

Well, Urahara asked Isshin if he finally got his revenge against GF, so there should be some lead towards this. I don't think there's something Urahara's not aware of.


Could you give me an explination then 2 how Masaki could have died both 10 years ago & 6 years ago?

Hmm...
now that i think about it if Yuzu's abillities were strong enough, how bout Masaki died 10 years ago in an acident or something, which made Isshin want to be a doctor to avoid it happening to anyone else... Her soul stayed back and lived with the familly, but dur to the families high reiatsu everyone could still see her as if she had still been alive.


Thats another explination and the only other one to come to my mind atm if the other one ain't true.


Acording to my memory Isshin said Masaki died 10 years ago twice one beeing in his shinigami form.
Also one would asume he'd have more feel in it after killing GF

[Velius]

I don't think that was actually Masaki either. It could have been, seems kinda far out there though. I wouldn't put it pass Kubo to make those words mean something later on.

[Rain]

Wow, I never thought of Masaki dying 10 years ago and then a mod-soul died 6 years ago. That seems like something Kubo would do, and it fits into the story well.

[Frost]

Grandfishers' lure remembered the mother's dying wish

"Ichigo, im so proud ..

Dad, Karin, Yuzu...and you ichigo..

im truly proud to have known you

Ichigo, live , be strong, be gentle and smile

Ichigo, thank you"

I have a valid reply.
That was filler.
Originally, Ichigo further impales himself on purpose to hit Grandfisher, his mother does not appear.
Acording to my memory Isshin said Masaki died 10 years ago twice one beeing in his shinigami form.
Your memory is wrong.

[Rain]

The only supporting evidence I can think of would be after the GF when ichigo and isshin were talking. Ichigo corrected his dad saying Masaki died 6 years ago the look on Isshin's face could be taken 2 ways. Either he noticed he was wrong, or realized Ichigo didn't know the truth.

[Shinrin]

Your memory is wrong.


Thx for replying made me give it another look, My memory ain't that far off actually.
Page 11 of Chapter 188


Isshin:But the arrancar now was completly diffrent
Isshin:From the one i saw over 10 years ago

Combine that info with what he said previously it seem to indicate it

[debbiechan]

Could you give me an explination then 2 how Masaki could have died both 10 years ago & 6 years ago?

Hmm...
now that i think about it if Yuzu's abillities were strong enough, how bout Masaki died 10 years ago in an acident or something, which made Isshin want to be a doctor to avoid it happening to anyone else... Her soul stayed back and lived with the familly, but dur to the families high reiatsu everyone could still see her as if she had still been alive.


Thats another explination and the only other one to come to my mind atm if the other one ain't true.


Acording to my memory Isshin said Masaki died 10 years ago twice one beeing in his shinigami form.
Also one would asume he'd have more feel in it after killing GF

Wow. I've been busting my brains to understand why Kubo kept having Isshin say "ten years ago" when Ichigo knew the real date to be six.

Masaki in a gigai. That's sounds really likely!