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Velius
09-02-2008, 10:04 PM
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Posted by Annie:

Bleach 324: The Claws

Continues from the last chapter, a headless body of Arivama fell on the floor. Kira sealed back his zanpakutou and said, “Farewell, a sky warrior. And I don’t want you to forgive me.”

A scene cut to Shuuhei who was looking exhausted. Findor taunted him if that’s all a lieutenant could do. Shuuhei hit back if Findor wanted to say he is not strong as of a lieutenant level.

“Exacta! As I expected from a lieutenant! If I’m not mistaken then that’s exactly what I mean!”

“Don’t call me lieutenant! I told you my name is Hisagi Shuuhei.” Then Findor mockingly apologized to Hisagi for being rude (since only Hisagi has introduced himself) then introduced himself as Barrrangan’s fraccion, Findor Garious. The he said the release command, “Crave the water’s surface.” His released form still looked like human only his right part is covered by shield. His right arm has turned in a big crab’s claw as tall him while the left arm looked the same as the right one except only smaller. Findor called it PinsaGuda while Shuuhei just calmly looking at him and said, “So this is Arrancar’s resurreccion (the release).” Findor complimented that Shuuhei has done some research.

“If you think only you arrancars has done some research on us then you’re mistaken.” Said Shuuhei.

“I never think so.” Smile Findor.

Then Findor disappeared so did Shuuhei, that same moment where Shuuhei was standing was cut into two pieces. Findor complimented him for be able to follow sonido’s speed. So Shuuhei snapped back at him for keep saying ‘exacta’.

“To live is a never-ending hard work. Only those with most correct answers will survive. So no matter who is it would have wanted to gain most correct answers, isn’t that so?”

“So you’d be the one who give the correct answer?” Then Shuuhei used his left hand to pick out the ornamental chain from his right arm and threw it to Findor. It exploded and he used the moment Firdor still confused to use Hadou #62 Heapporunkan and so many small lighted-pipes attacked Findor and locked him against the wall. While Shuuhei was coming to finish him off, Findor pointed his right claw and the stream of water came out. Shuuhei managed to dodge but he then saw how it actually able to cut the steel tank. Shuuhei was stunt but then Findor used this chance to attack more. Just when Shuuhei is about to get hit, he released his shikai,

“Harvest, Kazeshini.”

A note: A kidou Shuuhei used in this chapter is the one he used in the Diamond Dust Rebellion movie (he used it against Histsugaya). The one that people used to argued it was his shikai.

-His shikai is too hard to describe but it is a double weapons that connected by the chain.

Posted by spacecat:

フィンドール「水面に刻め ○刀流断(ピンサグーダ)」
Findor: "Carve the waters surface" ○ sword style of rejection (pinsagu~da)
○は執に虫の漢字
○ is in place of a Chinese character meaning insect or something that he doesn't remember.
69「刈れ 風死(かぜしに)」
Hisagi "Harvest, death wind (Kazeshini)."
刃が二つある鎌みたいな武器
The sword becomes a weapon consisting of two sickles.


蟄刀流断
(TN: I guess he remembered/saw it again) Hibernate (a friend tells me it can simply be inside also?) Sword Style of Rejection.
よくみたら風死は刃二つの鎌みたいなのが二つ鎖で繋がってる武器だった
Death Wind seems to have a chain linking the sickle style weapons.

Posted by Mori:

Mona @ 2ch

フィンドール「水面に刻め ○刀流断(ピンサグーダ)」
○は執に虫の漢字

69「刈れ 風死(かぜしに)」
刃が二つある鎌みたいな武器

-

蟄刀流断

よくみたら風死は刃二つの鎌みたいなのが二つ鎖で繋がってる武器だった

mori
09-03-2008, 11:16 AM
Mona @ 2ch

フィンドール「水面に刻め ○刀流断(ピンサグーダ)」
○は執に虫の漢字

69「刈れ 風死(かぜしに)」
刃が二つある鎌みたいな武器

-

蟄刀流断

よくみたら風死は刃二つの鎌みたいなのが二つ鎖で繋がってる武器だった

BigBadBuu
09-03-2008, 11:19 AM
Thanks for the spoilerage, Mori.

Looks like we got some Hisagi action this week, gogogo!

imamess
09-03-2008, 11:24 AM
I think that's a Shuuhei shikai (and a Findor release?)...Wind of death?

ch1mera
09-03-2008, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the spoiler Mori. Seems that we have Hisagi in this chapter!! I was waiting for this!

I´m not sure but I think that we have a shikai here, like imamess said :D

bleach91
09-03-2008, 11:44 AM
Posted by sheetz here (http://ichixhime.actifforum.com/manga-anime-f4/chapter-324-spoilers-not-yet-t2161.htm)

フィンドール「水面に刻め ○刀流断(ピンサグーダ)」
Findor: "Carve the water's surface. "0"刀流断 (Pinsagouda?)
○は執に虫の漢字
"0" is a kanji containing 執 and 虫.
69「刈れ 風死(かぜしに)」
Hisagi: "Shear, Kazeshini ("Wind Death")"
刃が二つある鎌みたいな武器
The sword is something like two sickles.


蟄刀流断
Mona gives the correct kanji for Findor's attack. It translates roughly as "Hibernation sword style rejection."
よくみたら風死は刃二つの鎌みたいなのが二つ鎖で繋がってる武器だった
Looking at Kazeshini more closely the two sickles are connected by two chains.

Loose Canon
09-03-2008, 11:45 AM
HISAGI?! Realllllly??? :inlove

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :yay :yay :yay

Thanks so much for the spoilers, mori! *smoochies*

P.S. -- dang it, still wrong on upcoming predictions; I thought we'd see Ikkaku next *grrrrr*

Weils
09-03-2008, 12:01 PM
刀流断(ピンサグーダ)」
○は執に虫の漢字

I think it means sword style break/cut (pincer guuda?)
Below it says it's the kanji name of an insect. Perhaps his release is shaped like an insect's?

zymotic1
09-03-2008, 12:04 PM
thats nice b/c never seen his release before, this fight might take another chapter or two.

BleachOD
09-03-2008, 12:12 PM
Wow...my dearest friend and My fan artist ROCKANGEL had an Idea about what his Shikai should look like and she hit the nail on the head.

Does she know Kubo? Rocky came up with this a while back

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/HisagiShikai.jpg

Raf
09-03-2008, 12:26 PM
Oh snap, if my favorite character (Hisagi)'s released zanpaktou is my favorite martial arts weapon (vigoorian flail) Then that would make my millennium.

Weils
09-03-2008, 12:38 PM
Actually, based on that little info on Hisagi's release, it could be more in line with the kusarigama (chain sickle).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Kusarigama.jpg/450px-Kusarigama.jpg

imamess
09-03-2008, 12:38 PM
I wonder if it's more like a kusarigama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kusarigama) with another sickle at the other end as opposed to a weight.

Weils
09-03-2008, 12:45 PM
I wonder if it's more like a kusarigama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kusarigama) with another sickle at the other end as opposed to a weight.

Here's a good example: Axl Low from Guilty Gear uses it.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/guiltygearalbum/Axl%20Low/ggxxr_cs1_ax.jpg

ch1mera
09-03-2008, 12:56 PM
Thanks bleach91.

Don´t need to go more far. We already saw a captain with a kusarigama, even if it only have a sickle. Think in Mayuri and in his ear in SS arc (Wiki info). You might be correct. That´s exactly how I see his release based in the info we have. Well, let´s wait and see.

briseïs
09-03-2008, 12:58 PM
nice spoilers on wednesday!!! yahoooooooo!

thank you for the spoilers BA!!!:hug

so finally hisagi´s turn, wonder if he will beat his opponent

:stfu2 YOU GO, HISAGI!!!!! BEAT THE HELL OUT OF HIM!!!

`
as you can read, I´m a little fanatic.............

Dascu
09-03-2008, 01:07 PM
Early spoilers. Chain-sickle's a cool weapon. I'm interested to see it in action.

spacecat
09-03-2008, 01:16 PM
Thanks Mori, I had a go at translating but it's difficult with Chinese characters in it lol Had to look up a Chinses dictionary xD (edit: thanks to sheetz also, I just noticed he finished the trans, when i first saw it, it wasn't or I may not have bothered lol).

フィンドール「水面に刻め ○刀流断(ピンサグーダ)」
Findor: "Carve the waters surface" ○ sword style of rejection (pinsagu~da)
○は執に虫の漢字
○ is in place of a Chinese character meaning insect or something that he doesn't remember.
69「刈れ 風死(かぜしに)」
Hisagi "Harvest, death wind (Kazeshini)."
刃が二つある鎌みたいな武器
The sword becomes a weapon consisting of two sickles.


蟄刀流断
(TN: I guess he remembered/saw it again) Hibernate (a friend tells me it can simply be inside also?) Sword Style of Rejection.
よくみたら風死は刃二つの鎌みたいなのが二つ鎖で繋がってる武器だった
Death Wind seems to have a chain linking the sickle style weapons.

SightUnseen
09-03-2008, 01:20 PM
Wow at long last. Shuhei's release. Thanks for the Spoilers

spacecat
09-03-2008, 01:32 PM
Well actually now that i think about it xD... It sounds like a cool weapon. Much better than that kidou pole looking thing someone had as an avatar (from the movie i think?).

Syn
09-03-2008, 01:38 PM
Yeah that's pretty cool. I can't wait to see it :)

Thanks for all the info, mori and space :)

ZoneGhost
09-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Finally Shuuhei's release

WatanukiXXX
09-03-2008, 01:41 PM
thanks for the spoilers Mori and translations Space!

Both their releases sounds interesting. Findor's 'sword style of rejection' reminds me of Chinese wuxia novels :D

And Hisagi's shikai has the 'wind' theme, tying him closer to Kensei. Out of all the VC's at the pillars, he is the one I expected most not to die.

Despite the predictable outcome, this looks like a longer fight. Hopefully it's an interesting one.

Fortunate
09-03-2008, 02:01 PM
Hisagi's a farmer! :learn

Thanks for the spoilers you two.

New Messy set Incoming! :zomg

furato
09-03-2008, 02:02 PM
Shuuhei is truly Kensei's student in the astral plane. He just met the man once and not only does he gets a tattoo in honor of Kensei, but also a zanpakutou with "wind" in its name like Kensei's.

"Harvest" for a sickle. Oh, Kubo, your puns.

Sol
09-03-2008, 02:04 PM
Thank you Mori and Space!! :hug

Yay Findor!!!

Im excited to see his release and hisagi's shikai too. :yay

This weeks chapter looks good. :D

zan2pacto
09-03-2008, 02:13 PM
Posted by sheetz here (http://ichixhie.actifforum.com/manga-anime-f4/chapter-324-spoilers-not-yet-t2161.htm)

2 sickles? this chapter delivers!

that means that there are THREE swords that turn into 2 now! How did Yamamoto not know that?

.access timeco.
09-03-2008, 02:14 PM
Man, I hope it really is a kusarigama /o/ not only they are cool as hell, I think a double scythe would be weird (technically, wouldn't it make a double zanpakutou like Sougyo no Kotowari? And we were told that only Ukitake and Shunsui had those kind).

And... hmmm, I have no idea what Pinsagu-da should be :/ but as long as it is an insect, I know I will love it <3 (well, I don't like Santateresa that much, but it was not very insect...ly).

Jyuushiro
09-03-2008, 02:17 PM
So Hisagi has the 2 sickles??

Little confused about that but sounds like its going to be a great chapter, even greater for the Hisagi fans.

Thanks for the spoiler guys.

spacecat
09-03-2008, 02:17 PM
Hisagi's a farmer! :learn

Thanks for the spoilers you two.

New Messy set Incoming! :zomg
I chose harvest but the word can be many things, cut, shear, clip, reap, prune lol so take your pick. I just liked harvest best, sheetz had shear i think which is also cool.

imamess
09-03-2008, 02:19 PM
Methinks Kubo didn't have Shuuhei's shikai planned when he wrote that Ukitake and Shunsui have the only double weapons. He probably just said, screw what I wrote before, I like the idea of two scythes.

Raf
09-03-2008, 02:21 PM
I hope he has some kind of nunchucku style to it. I wonder if it has an ability or if the extreme transformation is the ability.

Fortunate
09-03-2008, 02:24 PM
I chose harvest but the word can be many things, cut, shear, clip, reap, prune lol so take your pick. I just liked harvest best, sheetz had shear i think which is also cool.

Lol, Prune. :lmao

Messy: KT would bend over backwards for Shuu. :fu

spacecat
09-03-2008, 02:24 PM
Maybe since they are supposedly joined by a chain he thinks it counts as one :fu

lol yeah Prune didn't really have a chance against cool words like harvest and reap xD

Fortunate
09-03-2008, 02:26 PM
Maybe since they are supposedly joined by a chain he thinks it counts as one :fu

Then wouldn't that be the case with Ukitakes? :p

spacecat
09-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Then wouldn't that be the case with Ukitakes? :p
His has a chain? I don't remember, I guess so then :zomg

Agmaster
09-03-2008, 02:31 PM
Raf; What......what? Nunchaku sickles? What is this 8-bit theater?

But Yamamoto was TECHNICALLY correct. If 69 is a faux ninja (not unlike team Soi Fon...trade for Oomaeda much? Oh wait, can't have a hot VC for the oh so lesbo captain...I'm digressing again...) using two C&S's doesn't count as swords. So let it slide. This is Kubo, grant the man his foibles. It makes it a better read if you just accept.

Maybe Hisagi's shikai gets pouty as well if you call it by the inapropo name?

Frac
09-03-2008, 02:37 PM
In spanish thre aren't so many words similar for "pinsaguda" but it may be "Pinza Aguda", although I'm not sure yet.

Fortunate
09-03-2008, 02:43 PM
His has a chain? I don't remember, I guess so then :zomg

More like the rope at movie theater lines. :p

Raf
09-03-2008, 02:44 PM
Seriously, If I see him do this I will die happy. -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYAL2Ep_rdA

.access timeco.
09-03-2008, 02:49 PM
@Frac
I was thinking about that as well, but it doesn't fit the kana too much, or it would have an "A" after the "SA" :/ (the pinza part is ok. Maybe Pinza Gorda? :D naaah...)
Don't know, really. Maybe after seeing it, it will be easier to guess.

Frac
09-03-2008, 02:52 PM
@Frac
I was thinking about that as well, but it doesn't fit the kana too much, or it would have an "A" after the "SA" :/ (the pinza part is ok. Maybe Pinza Gorda? :D naaah...)
Don't know, really. Maybe after seeing it, it will be easier to guess.

Yep, is hard to translate it correctly, with Abirama and Charlotte it was easier xD.

Well, I want Hisagi to end this battle next week so we can see Ikkaku as soon as possible, and then...Ichigo's fight? Espada maybe?

Aalicia
09-03-2008, 02:53 PM
Pinza Gorda? :D naaah...)

If KT wants every Spanish and Portuguese people to think "fat dick", that might be it. After Fornicaras, nothing surprises me.

spacecat
09-03-2008, 03:03 PM
If it was pinza it would probably be ザinstead of サbut who knows. If he is another Granz brother like in my crack theory then that name sounds possible :fu 

Inevitable.Exit
09-03-2008, 03:06 PM
Hisagi has a wind weapon. Kensei had a wind weapon. 69. 69. HMMMM.

Spike
09-03-2008, 03:29 PM
but Kubo might mean that Shunsui and Ukitake is only ones with the zanpaktous before Shikai. Hisagi has only one sword, right, that becomes two?

.access timeco.
09-03-2008, 03:31 PM
I wonder if Kensei will think Hisagi is a stalker after they meet again. I mean, Kensei probably doesn't even remember that child he saved one day (he probably saved tons of people already), so I think it will be kinda awkward for him XP


@spacecat
In Spanish, the Z has the sound of "S" - サ-シ-ス-セ-ソ (just like the J has the sound of "H" - ハ-ヒ-フ-ヘ-ホ -, so I think Halibel will be Jalibel instead).


@Spike
Only Shunsui has 2 before releasing. Ukitake has just one. But, oh well, I agree with imamess

Akutabi
09-03-2008, 03:32 PM
but Kubo might mean that Shunsui and Ukitake is only ones with the zanpaktous before Shikai. Hisagi has only one sword, right, that becomes two?

Ukitake's starts out as one sword as well. Shunsui's the only one with two swords before releasing we've seen so far.

I want to see it before I make any judgments on how it should be classified.

Raf
09-03-2008, 03:34 PM
Those 2 are the only ones in SS with twin swords, Hisagi's release isn't really a sword anymore...

spacecat
09-03-2008, 03:35 PM
@spacecat
In Spanish, the Z has the sound of "S" - サ-シ-ス-セ-ソ (just like the J has the sound of "H" - ハ-ヒ-フ-ヘ-ホ -, so I think Halibel will be Jalibel instead).

Ah ok my spanish skills are quite poor, I knew about the H and J but not the S and Z really :oops

Akutabi
09-03-2008, 03:50 PM
Those 2 are the only ones in SS with twin swords, Hisagi's release isn't really a sword anymore...

Most of the translations I've read have Yama saying they're the only two zanpakuto to exist in a pair. Nothing specific like sword. Mayhaps you could provide the translation you use.

Lucia
09-03-2008, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the short spoiler, spacecat and Mori! :)

Hisagi's shikai sounds so cool! :noes ...It reminds me more of a nunchuck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunchaku) sort of weapon because of the connecting chain. But instead of sticks, he has dual sickles. Personally, I don't think it's similar to Shunsui and Ukitake's 2 swords. Yes, Ukitake's shikai release are connected to each other also, but Shunsui's isn't. You can check it here (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/156/15/). Yamamoto said on ch156 that Shunsui and Ukitake are the only ones with dual soul cutters. Soul cutters are usually in sword form. Shunsui and Ukitake's shikai releases still retained their sword-like appearance. Hisagi's shikai release, like what Raf said, doesn't anymore.

Question: Does the manga mention that anyone who wish to become a vice-captain have to showcase their shikai release(s) before being promoted? I know shinigamis who want to be captain has to show their ban kai, but does a vice-captain has to show their shikai? Can't recall if it was mention in the manga :headscratch

If KT wants every Spanish and Portuguese people to think "fat dick", that might be it. After Fornicaras, nothing surprises me.

:heehee

Rain
09-03-2008, 04:13 PM
:lmao @ pinza gorda

Kubo really wnats to hype Findor p ;)

Lucia- I don't think it was ever said



thanks for the spoilers, looks ok so far, im suprised its hisagis fight though

Clappers
09-03-2008, 04:28 PM
I wonder if Kensei will think Hisagi is a stalker after they meet again. I mean, Kensei probably doesn't even remember that child he saved one day (he probably saved tons of people already), so I think it will be kinda awkward for him XP


@spacecat
In Spanish, the Z has the sound of "S" - サ-シ-ス-セ-ソ (just like the J has the sound of "H" - ハ-ヒ-フ-ヘ-ホ -, so I think Halibel will be Jalibel instead).


@Spike
Only Shunsui has 2 before releasing. Ukitake has just one. But, oh well, I agree with imamess

The Espada are all named after designers and architects though of various nationalities;

Stark = Philippe Starck (French)
Barragan = Luis Barragan (Mexican)
Halibel = Harry Bell Measues (English)
Ulquiorra = Patricia Urquiola (Spanish)
Nnoitra = Richard Neutra (Belgian)
Grimmjow = Richard Grimshaw (English)
Zommari LeRoux = ?
Syazel Aporro Granz = Alejandro Zaera-Polo (Spanish)
Aaroniero Arrureurie = Eero Aarnio (Finnish - the Bubble chair!)
Yammy = ?

And the other names can also be written off to multi-ethnic origins. Arrancar terminology and zanpakatou names are purely Spanish, though.

And apparently Pinza's another name for the Daffodil, too. Wouldn't surprise me much with Luppi's Trepadora and Charlotte's Reina des Rosas... or it could be "clamps." Hopefully like Futurama's gangster :D

http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/Narcissus/Narcissus_Pinza_Closeup_JAY.jpg

kotetsu
09-03-2008, 07:15 PM
Thanks for the spoilers!! Hisagi releases his shikai.. can't wait to see it ^^.

Aalicia: Oh my...does pinza mean that in portuguese? :lmao

Actually, pinza in spanish is this (http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/791/pinzaiu3.png). So, if "insect" is mentioned in the spoiler... makes sense http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5949/tijeretasz2.jpg :D

*starts remembering "tijereta", Shawlong's release :rotflmao*

Zommari LeRoux = ?

Gaston Leroux? (french writer) :D

Velius
09-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Thanks for the spoilers guuuuuuuuys.

Shaping up to be another great (and quick) chapter. Cue overused Hisagi's release images in 3... 2... 1...

emoloz
09-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Well aint Ikkau's like two blades stuck as one and so is uktakes with some red rope thing. I think Kubo just changed his mind to be honest XD.

Eiji
09-03-2008, 08:54 PM
So next we see Hisagi. After that probably Ikkaku, and I hope that at last we will see fight beetween Ichigo & Ulquiorra...

Rinji
09-03-2008, 09:04 PM
Ah, how neat, Hisagi's release! ... you know, with the whole sickle and wind imagery that the name and appearance give, it kind of reminds me of a wind-element youkai in Japan named "Kamaitachi" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamaitachi). It's definitely plausible for its manifestation at any rate, maybe. :D

stark espada
09-03-2008, 09:05 PM
Alright I have to say this chapter seems like it will be very good this is the battle of the 4 dragons I have wanted to see the most. I thought findor would be like a horse a insect is a bit diffrent and if findors ability is Rejection that would be so cool if he could reject attacks that is what I'm hoping for.

Seems like this will be a good one

Velius
09-03-2008, 09:12 PM
Question: Does the manga mention that anyone who wish to become a vice-captain have to showcase their shikai release(s) before being promoted? I know shinigamis who want to be captain has to show their ban kai, but does a vice-captain has to show their shikai? Can't recall if it was mention in the manga :headscratch

It's the captain's choice as said in the TBtP arc. Pretty sure nothing is required.

Maianarisa
09-03-2008, 09:13 PM
Thanks for the spoilers!! Hisagi releases his shikai.. can't wait to see it ^^.

Aalicia: Oh my...does pinza mean that in portuguese? :lmao

Actually, pinza in spanish is this (http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/791/pinzaiu3.png). So, if "insect" is mentioned in the spoiler... makes sense http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5949/tijeretasz2.jpg :D

*starts remembering "tijereta", Shawlong's release :rotflmao*


Gaston Leroux? (french writer) :D

Phantom of the Opera!!!! Actually, if we're going by the architect theme, that would actually make sense. In the novels, Erik (aka the Phantom) was an architect in Persia.

Anyways, awesome spoilers! We get to see Hisagi's shikai!!! :yay

ShuiMei
09-03-2008, 10:05 PM
Ooh, thanks for the spoilers!
I'm looking forward to this as I've always had a weakness for Hisagi, this fight should help better flesh out his character, plus it gives me plenty of eyecandy... :D

cris
09-03-2008, 11:34 PM
The Espada are all named after designers and architects though of various nationalities;

Stark = Philippe Starck (French)
Barragan = Luis Barragan (Mexican)
Halibel = Harry Bell Measues (English)
Ulquiorra = Patricia Urquiola (Spanish)
Nnoitra = Richard Neutra (Belgian)
Grimmjow = Richard Grimshaw (English)
Zommari LeRoux = ?
Syazel Aporro Granz = Alejandro Zaera-Polo (Spanish)
Aaroniero Arrureurie = Eero Aarnio (Finnish - the Bubble chair!)
Yammy = ?


Aaroniero Arrureurie (Finnish) = Eero Aarnio

Patricia Urquiola (Spanish) - Ulquiorra

Nicholas Grimshaw (English) - Grimmjow

Italo Lupi (Italian) - Luppi

Nel Linssen (Holanda) - Nell

Richard Neutra (Austria) - Noitora

Rodolfo Dordoni (Italian) - Dordonii

Hisila Yami (Nepal) - Yammy

Alejandro Zaera-Polo (Spanish) - Zael'Apolo

Harry Bell Measures (Suiça) - Halibel

Luís Barragán (Mexican)- Barragán

Marcel Wanders (Holanda) e Maison Martin Margiela (Belgian) - Wanderweiss Margera

Stark = Philippe Starck (French)

Zoomari LeRoux = Claude-Nicolas LeDoux or Ledoux (French)

Aalicia
09-04-2008, 12:52 AM
Aalicia: Oh my...does pinza mean that in portuguese? :lmao

No, but it's close to pinça, that means tweezers. The catch is, if you take off the "n", it sounds like one of the dirtiest Portuguese words for dick. And gorda means fat, hence me making a connection.

... I appologize for my dirty mind... >.<'

Rasziel
09-04-2008, 01:42 AM
... I appologize for my dirty mind... >.<'

Meh, we are talking about the guy who gave someone the power of Rape and named it after an Angel - The author who is not afraid to have his characters hide swords in the crotch area, and etc. etc. etc. You just follow the pattern:fu

Pinza Gorda... What a weird name for ANYTHING :XD

Let's just hope it's not a "I conveniently have this power to counter your hax skills" all over again...


Also, a random note that has been bothering me for a while now:

If the main goal of the Dragon team is to break the pilars, why haven't they done so already? I mean, Kira pretty much left it alone, and Cuuhlhourne threw Yumi around like a ragdoll =S - Yet, NONE of them decided "Hey, the pilar is all alone!! Let's destroy it!"

鬼鬼
09-04-2008, 02:21 AM
Let's just hope it's not a "I conveniently have this power to counter your hax skills" all over again...


I hope it is though. Can't bear to see Hisagi's defeat right after his release.

vaizado
09-04-2008, 02:24 AM
Dunno if it's been brought up yet, so forgive me if it has, but arent Ukitake and Shunsui the only ones in SS who have a double zanpaktou?

Akutabi
09-04-2008, 02:25 AM
I hope it is though. Can't bear to see Hisagi's defeat right after his release.

I'm so torn. I want Hisagi to win because he's not had a battle we've seen yet and it'd be nice to see his abilities. But at the same time, I don't want another shinigami victory. If it's not handed to Hisagi like the other two have been I probably won't mind him winning.


Dunno if it's been brought up yet, so forgive me if it has, but arent Ukitake and Shunsui the only ones in SS who have a double zanpaktou?

Yama said they were the only two to exist in a pair. Of course, I don't consider Yama all knowing so I'm willing to accept some other such weapons escaping his notice. And I want to wait for scans before I decide if Kubo changed his mind and made Yama wrong

.access timeco.
09-04-2008, 02:59 AM
There is no way in hell that Hisagi will lose this fight! Unless we discover that Yumichika, Kira and Ikkaku all lost offscreen (thus making the whole Shinigami group losing. How? Avirama's Hierro > Wabisuke; Rosa Blanca having a HUGE delay... yeah, no!), Hisagi will win.

I mean... Kira would obviously not lose because he already lost his previous fight (against Matsumoto). Yumichika would probably not lose because he still had to show/explain the real ability of his Shikai. And Hisagi is a 2HIT COMBO: he lost his previous fight (against Yumichika) and has a Shikai waiting to be explored. Not to mention his enemy is still a Fodder... I mean, Fracción.
So, just asume Hisagi will win anyway and let's hope it will happen in a interesting way and not a "hey, look! My ability just happens to be exactly what is needed to counter yours! Man, what are the chances, huh? :D"
"Byakuya/Mayuri/Kenpachi/Kira: I KNOW! :D"

Ikkaku, maybe, can lose. He already won his last fight and we already know his Shikai and Bankai. But still, is a Shinigami x Arrancar, so I would not keep my hopes up.

xbleachrengadex
09-04-2008, 03:51 AM
props for the spoilers

Jyuushiro
09-04-2008, 04:02 AM
So Hisagis shikai turns his blade into two small hand weapons, something similar to his hero Kensei xDD

I guess he's going to join Ukitake and Shunsui on the pair zanpaktou.

NakeBenihime
09-04-2008, 04:14 AM
The whole "shinigami" idea came from the Western idea of the "Grim Reaper," who wields a sickle to harvest the souls of men, and Shuuhei, who is a Japanese god of death, the equivalent to the Western world's lone Grim Reaper, then that makes Shuuhei and his sickle even MORE like the Western version. How clever you are, Kubo-sensei! I like this idea that at least one shinigami will pay hommage to the original "soul reaper."

mgalli
09-04-2008, 05:06 AM
man finally we get to see hisagi's shikai, i bet its gonna be like kensei's seeing that the name is pretty similar

Frac
09-04-2008, 08:42 AM
I think that all the four shinigamis will win, Hisagi must win because his battle is the first we see, Kira and Yumih¡chika had already won and Ikkaku has bankai, what is a certainly victory.

But after this four battles i think that Aizen or someone else will defeat the "lines" of the captains and defeat easily the guardians of the four pilars, we all agree that Aizen must become closer to his goal and for that he has to destroy the pilars and make the Oken in the real Karakura, so this shinigamis victories won't be for so long.

鬼鬼
09-04-2008, 08:55 AM
I think that all the four shinigamis will win, Hisagi must win because his battle is the first we see, Kira and Yumih¡chika had already won and Ikkaku has bankai, what is a certainly victory.

But after this four battles i think that Aizen or someone else will defeat the "lines" of the captains and defeat easily the guardians of the four pilars, we all agree that Aizen must become closer to his goal and for that he has to destroy the pilars and make the Oken in the real Karakura, so this shinigamis victories won't be for so long.

I don't quite agree with that. :rolleyes:

thewizardninja
09-04-2008, 09:32 AM
I don't quite agree with that. :rolleyes: Well I do. Aizen has to win here eventually otherwise the last 100 or so chapters will be a waste of our time and Kubo's time.

furato
09-04-2008, 09:48 AM
The whole "shinigami" idea came from the Western idea of the "Grim Reaper," who wields a sickle to harvest the souls of men, and Shuuhei, who is a Japanese god of death, the equivalent to the Western world's lone Grim Reaper, then that makes Shuuhei and his sickle even MORE like the Western version. How clever you are, Kubo-sensei! I like this idea that at least one shinigami will pay hommage to the original "soul reaper."I thought the Grim Reaper uses a scythe?

The shinigami idea isn't wholly coming from the Western idea though. The idea of shinigami (death god) has deep roots in Japanese tradition as well. Kubo might have a fusion idea in the beginning, like in the initial concept art of Rukia with black school uniform and a giant scythe. But the concept brought to live at the end is traditional shinigami. I wouldn't call having one of them using a sickle an homage.

Edit: I stand corrected (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinigami).

鬼鬼
09-04-2008, 10:01 AM
I thought the Grim Reaper uses a scythe?

The shinigami idea isn't wholly coming from the Western idea though. The idea of shinigami (death god) has deep roots in Japanese tradition as well. Kubo might have a fusion idea in the beginning, like in the initial concept art of Rukia with black school uniform and a giant scythe. But the concept brought to live at the end is traditional shinigami. I wouldn't call having one of them using a sickle an homage.

A sickle is similar to a shorter version of a scythe.

Maybe Hisagi will get a special grim reaper costume when he uses bankai.

FeZ14
09-04-2008, 11:03 AM
A sickle is similar to a shorter version of a scythe.

Maybe Hisagi will get a special grim reaper costume when he uses bankai.

That would be assuming he has achieved bankai, though I like the idea of Ichigo and his bankai 'costume' because it makes him sort of unique. So I doubt if Shuuhei has bankai, his clothing would change. Remember, they are dressed in black anyway.

NakeBenihime
09-04-2008, 11:03 AM
I thought the Grim Reaper uses a scythe?

The shinigami idea isn't wholly coming from the Western idea though. The idea of shinigami (death god) has deep roots in Japanese tradition as well. Kubo might have a fusion idea in the beginning, like in the initial concept art of Rukia with black school uniform and a giant scythe. But the concept brought to live at the end is traditional shinigami. I wouldn't call having one of them using a sickle an homage.

Edit: I stand corrected (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinigami).

No problem. I found this info out a long time ago when I first got interested in Bleach, and was truly surprised that the Japanese death god does in fact come from the Western world's Grim Reaper. Doesn't seem like it would, but does. Just couldn't resist trying to prove someone wrong, right? ;)

Frac
09-04-2008, 11:12 AM
I don't quite agree with that. :rolleyes:

So do you think that Aizen will be stopped now by the captains? You don't think that he will see the royal guard at least?

LOL

spacecat
09-04-2008, 11:13 AM
Yeah I liked the harvest souls thing and the reap part, the word he uses for his shikai can be harvest or reap amongst other things. I guess it all ties into somthing xD

Clappers
09-04-2008, 01:31 PM
Or his take on the kamaitachi... wait, we've already had that one. X)

.access timeco.
09-04-2008, 02:01 PM
The chapter is called "The Claws".

In Pantip, someone posted a image of a crab. I am guessing the summary says Findor's release remembers one (*_* <3), so maybe its name is a refference to the big chela of the crabs. And, well, in spanish, chela is "pinza".
I wonder if there is a specific name for the "big chela" that fits the "pinzagu-da" kana ("Pinza ???").

I know I said "Pinza Gorda" kidding, but... you know? In spanish, it would mean "Big claw" just as "fat claw". So maybe it IS Pinza Gorda o_O well, I still hope the "gorda" part is wrong.

Aalicia
09-04-2008, 02:48 PM
^Big would be grande, not gorda. But it might be refering to crab pincers, alright.

Annie
09-04-2008, 02:58 PM
From here (http://www.pantip.com/cafe/chalermthai/topic/A6965060/A6965060.html)

Bleach 324: The Claws

Continues from the last chapter, a headless body of Arivama fell on the floor. Kira sealed back his zanpakutou and said, “Farewell, a sky warrior. And I don’t want you to forgive me.”

A scene cut to Shuuhei who was looking exhausted. Findor taunted him if that’s all a lieutenant could do. Shuuhei hit back if Findor wanted to say he is not strong as of a lieutenant level.

“Exacta! As I expected from a lieutenant! If I’m not mistaken then that’s exactly what I mean!”

“Don’t call me lieutenant! I told you my name is Hisagi Shuuhei.” Then Findor mockingly apologized to Hisagi for being rude (since only Hisagi has introduced himself) then introduced himself as Barrrangan’s fraccion, Findor Garious. The he said the release command, “Crave the water’s surface.” His released form still looked like human only his right part is covered by shield. His right arm has turned in a big crab’s claw as tall him while the left arm looked the same as the right one except only smaller. Findor called it PinsaGuda while Shuuhei just calmly looking at him and said, “So this is Arrancar’s resurreccion (the release).” Findor complimented that Shuuhei has done some research.

“If you think only you arrancars has done some research on us then you’re mistaken.” Said Shuuhei.

“I never think so.” Smile Findor.

Then Findor disappeared so did Shuuhei, that same moment where Shuuhei was standing was cut into two pieces. Findor complimented him for be able to follow sonido’s speed. So Shuuhei snapped back at him for keep saying ‘exacta’.

“To live is a never-ending hard work. Only those with most correct answers will survive. So no matter who is it would have wanted to gain most correct answers, isn’t that so?”

“So you’d be the one who give the correct answer?” Then Shuuhei used his left hand to pick out the ornamental chain from his right arm and threw it to Findor. It exploded and he used the moment Firdor still confused to use Hadou #62 Heapporunkan and so many small lighted-pipes attacked Findor and locked him against the wall. While Shuuhei was coming to finish him off, Findor pointed his right claw and the stream of water came out. Shuuhei managed to dodge but he then saw how it actually able to cut the steel tank. Shuuhei was stunt but then Findor used this chance to attack more. Just when Shuuhei is about to get hit, he released his shikai,

“Harvest, Kazeshini.”

A note: A kidou Shuuhei used in this chapter is the one he used in the Diamond Dust Rebellion movie (he used it against Histsugaya). The one that people used to argued it was his shikai.

-His shikai is too hard to describe but it is a double weapons that connected by the chain.

Rasziel
09-04-2008, 03:00 PM
Well - You can always take it to "Pinza Aguda" - Sounds much less pervert than "Pinza Gorda" and much more dangerous, as it's translated more like "Sharp Claw"

Crabs... It makes sense, there is no word in Spanish for the crab claw specifically... So Pinza DOES fit

Syn
09-04-2008, 03:03 PM
Thank you Annie dear :wha It looks like a cool fight and I can't wait to see Shuuhei's spell (can't have enough spells described :D). As for his weapon, don't worry; we'll see it tomorrow, so it's ok, we've waited that long, we can wait a little bit more :XD

And Kira wow.. so cold XD Awesome!

Frac
09-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Finally i think it will be Pinza Aguda xD.

EnSiFeR
09-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Thanks Annie for the spoilerage.....

There is a word in spanish to refer to a crab´s claw, tough it is kind of technical.... it is QUELA.... xD forget me lol

I hope Shuuhei wins this fight as quickly as possible..... There are many things I want to see already... the Vizards!!!! hell yeah!!!

.access timeco.
09-04-2008, 03:09 PM
Thanks, Annie! \o/\o/

I am amazed to see the Shinigami actually using Kidou in fights. Until now, only the Kuchiki house seemed to remember Kidou in the middle of a fight. But then, in two chapters, we already got Kira and Hisagi doing the same. That is great.

And Findor is really a crab \*_*/ I hope he gets more "animal visual traits" than Nnoitra did with Santa Teresa.

^Big would be grande, not gorda. But it might be refering to crab pincers, alright.
Yeah, but "gordo" (fat) is something that is abnormaly big. If you think as a japanese man that doesn't know spanish that much, it wouldn't be weird to use "gordo" with that meaning, y'know?
But since Findor got both claws, the name doesn't have to reffer to the big one anymore.

Pinza Aguda seems better, though, but I still don't know, since the kana doesn't allow an A aside from the one stuck with the S/Z.


EDIT: What about Pinza Gualda (Golden Claw)? Pinza Goda (Powerfull Claw)? Actually, they fit the kana even less :/

spacecat
09-04-2008, 03:16 PM
Thanks Annie, I like that Kira went through with it but yeah...won't bother with the same ole :p

Sounds like a decent chapter anyways, It will be new to see Hisagi fighting for me since I don't watch movies or anime fillers and new stuff is always cool.

Aalicia
09-04-2008, 03:20 PM
a headless body of Arivama fell on the floor.

Guess SS is really going to have turkey for Thanks Giving...

imamess
09-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Kira really beheaded Avirama after all. 0_0 It's good to see that he does follow through.

So they moved that kidou into canon. That's good to see him doing a pretty decent move like that without a chant (at least he didn't use in the move according to the Japanese wiki). Plus, it's nice to see more kidou since there can be a lot of different things that could be done with it, and with the main cast, the only one to really use it is Rukia.

And his arm bands are explosives? That's certainly interesting. Can't wait to actually see the chapter.

smach
09-04-2008, 03:26 PM
Guess SS is really going to have turkey for Thanks Giving...So far we've had poultry, so the next victim of carnage will probably be the crab/lobster, or else some random cow will show up on the battlefield.

BleachOD
09-04-2008, 03:50 PM
I love Shuhei but I want him to lose so Kensei can come and save him and then they can be the 69 connection and maybe have eye smex and give all fangirls 69gasms.

Amy corE
09-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the spoiler, Annie, my love!:wtf

I've waited too long for this to finally happen. Shuu-chan's shikai! And the infamous spell!

Shuu-chan is sly, indeed... throwing explosive chains and halogen lamps at his enemy like that...:XD

Loose Canon
09-04-2008, 04:16 PM
Ooooh, thanks so much, Annie!

I'm glad to see the decisive outcome of Kira's fight, an actual death, and no emo post-mortems about that death. It's war, Abirama was the enemy, and that's all there should be to it. Kira has become the height of awesome in my eyes. :inlove

How cool is Hisagi, fighting Findor to the point where Findor has to release -- while Hisagi hasn't even released into shikai yet??:cool: As for his kidou..... I guess I'm going to have to start watching the anime again (I refused to watch it after the SS arc because it strayed from canon -- I mean, what the hell is a Bount in the manga?).

Diamond Dust Rebellion is where this Kidou shows up? Guess it's time for me to do a search on Youtube or Veoh to see if it's out yet. :/

Majority Espada
09-04-2008, 04:19 PM
I'm so glad that we're seeing new kido....I'm so tired of 31 and 33...now I just wish the arrancar had something other than red cero, blue cero, and green cero

Akutabi
09-04-2008, 04:28 PM
Sounds like Yama's assertion is coming into question

I expect some captions inspired by that Element commercial after this chapter :hm

Findor: I want to pinch :fu

07Janina07
09-04-2008, 05:02 PM
Thank you for spoilers.

I am bore right at this moment with Bleach. Let's hope it gets better once Ichigo and Ulquiora finally fight.

Raf
09-04-2008, 05:21 PM
Mwahahahahaha as expected from Hisagi! If he gets beated I only expect it being from and Espada. Bonzai :D

Jyuushiro
09-04-2008, 05:45 PM
Never seen that side of Kira xDD

The two weapons connected by a chain, sounds so familiar LOL

Velius
09-04-2008, 05:49 PM
lawl. Kubo is a marketing genius. It's no coincidence that he does this on the same week of the DDR release. The fact that the anime even lines up is even more creepy.

Thanks for the summary Annie. Looks like things are going to continue to move at a fast pace. I think that pictures will greatly increase the enjoyability of this chapter for a lot of people. Me included.

Rain
09-04-2008, 06:01 PM
Continues from the last chapter, a headless body of Arivama fell on the floor. Kira sealed back his zanpakutou and said, “Farewell, a sky warrior. And I don’t want you to forgive me.”

A scene cut to Shuuhei who was looking exhausted. Findor taunted him if that’s all a lieutenant could do. Shuuhei hit back if Findor wanted to say he is not strong as of a lieutenant level.

“Exacta! As I expected from a lieutenant! If I’m not mistaken then that’s exactly what I mean!”

“Don’t call me lieutenant! I told you my name is Hisagi Shuuhei.” Then Findor mockingly apologized to Hisagi for being rude (since only Hisagi has introduced himself) then introduced himself as Barrrangan’s fraccion, Findor Garious. The he said the release command, “Crave the water’s surface.” His released form still looked like human only his right part is covered by shield. His right arm has turned in a big crab’s claw as tall him while the left arm looked the same as the right one except only smaller. Findor called it PinsaGuda while Shuuhei just calmly looking at him and said, “So this is Arrancar’s resurreccion (the release).” Findor complimented that Shuuhei has done some research.

“If you think only you arrancars has done some research on us then you’re mistaken.” Said Shuuhei.

“I never think so.” Smile Findor.

Then Findor disappeared so did Shuuhei, that same moment where Shuuhei was standing was cut into two pieces. Findor complimented him for be able to follow sonido’s speed. So Shuuhei snapped back at him for keep saying ‘exacta’.

“To live is a never-ending hard work. Only those with most correct answers will survive. So no matter who is it would have wanted to gain most correct answers, isn’t that so?”

“So you’d be the one who give the correct answer?” Then Shuuhei used his left hand to pick out the ornamental chain from his right arm and threw it to Findor. It exploded and he used the moment Firdor still confused to use Hadou #62 Heapporunkan and so many small lighted-pipes attacked Findor and locked him against the wall. While Shuuhei was coming to finish him off, Findor pointed his right claw and the stream of water came out. Shuuhei managed to dodge but he then saw how it actually able to cut the steel tank. Shuuhei was stunt but then Findor used this chance to attack more. Just when Shuuhei is about to get hit, he released his shikai,

“Harvest, Kazeshini.”

cool, thanks Annie



seems like a good chapter, as good as the last fight at least

for some reason im not as upset with these VC's beating fraccion, i dunno why

(maybe its cause i reread volume 24 and saw how easily bankai pwn'd the other fraccion, and almost feel that this isn't plotkai-esque wiring)

zymotic1
09-04-2008, 06:07 PM
a lieutents shikai which we havnt seen before, nice, ichigo vs grimjow hopefully is just as good as ichigo vs the captain he fought in ss right after he freed rukia

La`Punyeta
09-04-2008, 06:20 PM
awesome annie thx !!
and finally...Hisagi released..after... 324 chapters..he finally released
:yay

Findor vs Hisagi looks interesting...


Aguila's head falling....Kira is sure fierce like Gin said..:lmao

Orihime-Chan
09-04-2008, 06:28 PM
so now it's Shuuhei's fight time.. looking forward to see his full power.

Aki
09-04-2008, 06:56 PM
Thanks Annie!!:hug This is gonna be a great chapter can't wait to see it!! :noes

moonflowers
09-04-2008, 07:07 PM
Thanks Annie, space, mori, etc. for great spoilers. Hisagi. Shikai. Finally. Here! :wtf And I'm happy about his awesome kidou. Pics are going to be win. :)

bradc
09-04-2008, 08:15 PM
Actually, based on that little info on Hisagi's release, it could be more in line with the kusarigama (chain sickle).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Kusarigama.jpg/450px-Kusarigama.jpg

Nice pair of Cow plows/ploughs for Hisagi...

Quite a handy weapon too: Harrow (Tool) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrow_(tool))/Plough (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plough).

Agmaster
09-04-2008, 08:15 PM
Ah, a fraccion actually killed? Grats, Kira. You're still a wuss, but hey. I don't ask for your forgiveness.

Aalicia
09-04-2008, 08:27 PM
So far we've had poultry, so the next victim of carnage will probably be the crab/lobster, or else some random cow will show up on the battlefield.

Maybe THAT'S why Sabertooth is missing...

Clappers
09-04-2008, 09:04 PM
We've already Del Toro and Verruga (which was Wart, but the Warthog was the obvious inspiration)... I think we need a duck, personally.

♥Mad,bad & sad♥
09-04-2008, 09:08 PM
Continues from the last chapter, a headless body of Arivama fell on the floor. Kira sealed back his zanpakutou and said, “Farewell, a sky warrior. And I don’t want you to forgive me.”

Oh dear, ...poor Avirama. :devestated

So it's two down, two to go...? :mad:

rimrim
09-04-2008, 09:33 PM
Still no pics/raw/scan ?? :cry God I am so excited by that chapter ! (yes, even a simple Bleach chapter excites me...)

:rolleyes:

Shinrin
09-04-2008, 09:49 PM
So far we've had poultry, so the next victim of carnage will probably be the crab/lobster, or else some random cow will show up on the battlefield.


We have Ilforte representable for the Bull and we have the Exequais leader with a Bullskull for a mask.

But a milkycow would be even more of a laugh then Coolhorn(and no I didn't find coohorn that fun, was ok but this will be the same kind of humor)



Sound like Shuhai's weapon could be similar to that annoying filler guy that was Eating his own weapon in recent fillers.

flower
09-04-2008, 09:51 PM
:eek: So it appears that Shuuhei has a double-weapon Shikai?? I thought only Ukitake and Kyoraku had that...

thewizardninja
09-04-2008, 10:31 PM
It probably isn't a double weapon, it said they were joined by a chain remember. It probably looks like Ikkaku's bankai but smaller and with sickle's on the end instead of massive blades. That's what I get from it anyway ^^

Akutabi
09-04-2008, 10:44 PM
So far we've had poultry, so the next victim of carnage will probably be the crab/lobster, or else some random cow will show up on the battlefield.

Illforte = beef

Tesla = pork

Avirama= chicken/turkey

Findor = crab

So what else do people want on the menu?

It probably isn't a double weapon, it said they were joined by a chain remember.

So are Ukitake's. But let's remember, Yama-ji doesn't know everything

gab00n
09-04-2008, 10:50 PM
I thought there would be a pic out by now, awesome chapter though. I can't wait to see Hisagi's shikai, I'm sure it looks bad ass. Me wants some rabbit on the menu, mmmm rabbit stew. :)

thewizardninja
09-04-2008, 10:53 PM
So are Ukitake's. But let's remember, Yama-ji doesn't know everything
It's a bit different to Ukitake's because his blades have hilts and guards whereas what I have in mind is a chain with sickles on the end. So Hisagi would have to hold the chain, not the sickles. See the difference?

Akutabi
09-04-2008, 10:58 PM
It's a bit different to Ukitake's because his blades have hilts and guards whereas what I have in mind is a chain with sickles on the end. So Hisagi would have to hold the chain, not the sickles. See the difference?

And I have something like kamas in mind, which are basically small scythes.

thewizardninja
09-04-2008, 11:03 PM
And I have something like kamas in mind, which are basically small scythes.

But Kama are seperate weapons which WOULD mean Yama was wrong. My design makes everyone happy. Except you maybe ^^

schwegburt
09-04-2008, 11:04 PM
Wow, Kira actually removed Bird man's head :eek:. I gotta say his performance and attitude actually got me to warm up to him a bit.

I definitely like the fact that Kubo's introducing more Kidou's into the mix, it makes things alot more interesting. One thing I thought of when it came to the VC's using Kidou is that a Captain has Bankai, while that doesn't make him unable to use Kidou, I think it's usually easier for them to emphasize using Bankai. It seems like Hisagi and Kira are both "All around types" and tend to use kidous to cover for weaknesses that their Zanpakutou have.

PS - Ukitake and Shunsui have the only two twin Zanpakutos in Soul Society. Shuuhei has just paired sickle like weapons.

thewizardninja
09-04-2008, 11:07 PM
Wow, Kira actually removed Bird man's head :eek:. I gotta say his performance and attitude actually got me to warm up to him a bit.

I definitely like the fact that Kubo's introducing more Kidou's into the mix, it makes things alot more interesting. One thing I thought of when it came to the VC's using Kidou is that a Captain has Bankai, while that doesn't make him unable to use Kidou, I think it's usually easier for them to emphasize using Bankai. It seems like Hisagi and Kira are both "All around types" and tend to use kidous to cover for weaknesses that their Zanpakutou have.

PS - Ukitake and Shunsui have the only two twin Zanpakutos in Soul Society. Shuuhei has just paired sickle like weapons.

Just contradicted yourself budy XP

Akutabi
09-04-2008, 11:13 PM
But Kama are seperate weapons which WOULD mean Yama was wrong. My design makes everyone happy. Except you maybe ^^

So what if Yama was wrong? Since when was he required to be all-knowing?

knives13
09-04-2008, 11:17 PM
my 2 cents, I'm guessin Hisagi's release would look like Tsubaki's chain scythe mode from Soul Eater... ye

gab00n
09-04-2008, 11:17 PM
Just contradicted yourself budy XP

Using your logic, Ikkaku has three zanpakutous. :p

schwegburt
09-04-2008, 11:20 PM
Just contradicted yourself budy XP
Yeah, when I read it over I did :p.

I will say that Yama'ji effectively says "The only 2 soul cutters in Soul Society that are paired" in chapter 156 about Ukitake and Shunsui. Maybe he meant swords :confused:. Then again I guess we can wait and see if Shuuhei's release counts as twin weapons or is actually one of those other funky sickle like weapon sets.

Clappers
09-04-2008, 11:26 PM
Ukitake and Shunshui have two zanpakatou BEFORE releasing into shikai. That's the difference. Sorry if that's repeating what was said before.

Isaiah1989
09-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Ukitake and Shunshui have two zanpakatou BEFORE releasing into shikai. That's the difference. Sorry if that's repeating what was said before.


Shunsui does, Ukitake doesn't. I think that's what you meant =)

mgalli
09-04-2008, 11:42 PM
thanks a lot anne and space cat (how do you guys get these spoilers!lol)


anyways this is a pretty sick chapter, and I bet hisagis shikai is gonna be kick ass. I bet he'll end the fight next chapter.

But man I hope that one of these guys loses, (maybe ikkaku?) i mean its pretty lame just given the same old routine over and over again..."bad guy has the upper hand at first, but then the good guy releases his zanpaktou's true/special ability and the bad guy loses"....

whatever though.....kubo hasnt let me down yet and I dont think he will be anytime soon

Clappers
09-04-2008, 11:56 PM
Shunsui does, Ukitake doesn't. I think that's what you meant =)

Huh, fancy that. Well I guess the argument is they're both still swords, but eh. I'm more interested in Findol's release to be honest, sounds like a Fiddler Crab all over.

MasterOfPupets
09-05-2008, 03:34 AM
Yeah, when I read it over I did :p.

I will say that Yama'ji effectively says "The only 2 soul cutters in Soul Society that are paired" in chapter 156 about Ukitake and Shunsui. Maybe he meant swords :confused:. Then again I guess we can wait and see if Shuuhei's release counts as twin weapons or is actually one of those other funky sickle like weapon sets.

Until I see Hisagi's release, I can't say for sure, but I imagine by the sound of it the weapon will be like the Vigorian Flail from Ninja Gaiden 2.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1760/vigflailfu4.jpg

Basically, a nunchuck with small scythes on the ends. It's a single-handed weapon though, even though I expected his to be more Kido-type than physical.

Primera Espada
09-05-2008, 03:36 AM
Ukitake and Shunsui have twin zanpakuto, not dual ones.

That's important. Even their releases hint at duality. Furthermore, they are 2 seperate weapons (in ukitake's case, they are tied together with a ribbon, but the ribbon itself is not part of the weapon, it's a decoration like rukia's ribbon).

Shuuhei's might have 2 bladed ends, but that doesn't make it a twin zanpakuto. Is Yumichika's a quad zanpakuto? Is Hitsugaya's a twin? It has a chain and a bladed weapon on the other end as well.

The difference being is that shunsui's and ukitake's zanpakuto are two distinct weapons.

Zangetsu01
09-05-2008, 04:20 AM
RAW Chapter 324 : The Claws
~ Raw from Agent007 ~ & Thanks MH
http://static.mangahelpers.com/raws/weekly/Bleach_324_RAW%5BSF%5D.zip
Mediafire (mislabeled as Bleach 321)
http://www.mediafire.com/?yuzts44xbcw
http://www.sendspace.com/file/i52ssz
http://rapidshare.com/files/142733966/Bleach_324_Raw.zip

Look like Drake was right about the blade

Adding Onemanga link as available

Jyuushiro
09-05-2008, 04:34 AM
:0

Oh yeah, Hisagi is officially in Ukitakes and Shunsuis group. xDD

Pretty sick weapons, thanks for the RAW dude.

Akutabi
09-05-2008, 04:40 AM
Yep, identical twins. Correction, there are now three zanpakuto that release into pairs. I knew Kubo couldn't keep it up. Dual weapons are too tempting not to use

Now give me a zanpakugun :hm

stark espada
09-05-2008, 04:58 AM
Ah Shuhei weapon looks a bit basic if you ask me still a unique type in the fact of what it is I hope he uses it how they should be in a long range form. Oh and I think Findor stole the chapter :lmao I have to say he is going down as one of my favorite looking releases at present moment. Next issue will be interesting this one was good.

Jyuushiro
09-05-2008, 05:02 AM
You mean Shuhei, hehe.


But yeah, next chapter will be interesting for sure!

.access timeco.
09-05-2008, 05:07 AM
Both releases are great \o\ and the chapter as a whole was great (probably because it was not made to make one character look stupid just to make the other one be amazing).

I hope Findor can put up a fight after Hisagi released. Although this one seemed to be the worst of the 4 fights at the begining, now I am thinking it can turn out to be the most interesting.

Velius
09-05-2008, 05:10 AM
Thanks for the raws Zangetsu. So we finally get a Hisagi release and it turns out to be another duel weapon. O.o The design it pretty good. It's how he is going to use them that will make it even better. At first glance they look like they could be really deadly. I'm guessing it will go in that direction. :fu

Loose Canon
09-05-2008, 05:20 AM
OMG, it's the Scion logo!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/sshoeman/thMyscion002.jpg

Very trendy. :cool:

Over all, I loved the look of this chapter -- lots of progress in both the smaller VC battles as well as character development. Hisagi's got some wicked moves, and I love the arm cuffs that explode as well as provide a fashion statement. Bravo! :D

P.S. This looks like an Ukitake-type shikai. Two swords out of one. Nifty.

P.P.S. I know it's probably just me, and it's half past midnight where I am, but that last pose of Hisagi's with a "Scion" weapon in each hand with the dangling chain really reminds me of Nnoitora. Maybe I need sleep. :/

THANK YOU, ZANGETSU01! :hug

Aalicia
09-05-2008, 05:37 AM
*resists the urge to go scream at One Manga for them to put it on already*

I don't usually fangirl on Shuuhei, but, hell, I wanna get to see it before having to go out, already. 8(

Zangetsu01
09-05-2008, 05:47 AM
US Scanlation, Thanks Sleepy Fans
http://mediafire.com/?xytmdyzj1q1

OneManga is up too

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/324/01/

Jyuushiro
09-05-2008, 05:53 AM
Thanks, reading now.


Edit: Explosive arm band, thats what I call hax.

Loose Canon
09-05-2008, 06:09 AM
Thanks again, Zangetsu01 :love

I am curious about this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/324/07/) though. "It's time to put an end to this battle. The same way you guys do. In other words, I will carve you up."

Naturally, that's what an enemy wants to do -- carve you up. But Findor personalizes it by focusing on "you guys" -- Shinigami. To my mind, this reminds me of Zommari's comments before he bought the farm. I know hollows hate their natural enemy, the Shinigami, but it does make me wonder what kind of poisonous rhetoric Aizen's been filling their ears with.

Just a thought. :)

memnarch
09-05-2008, 06:12 AM
An arrancar and shinigami release in the same chapter plus a new kido spell??? Awesome stuff!!!

I'm curious to see what Hisagi's zanpakuto's abilities are. I noticed that like Kensei's zanpakuto is has "kaze" in the name, so it may have a wind ability. Although Tachikaze isn't exactly wind based...it was a nice connection between the past and present ninth squad members! :)

I had no idea what to expect from Findor's release, so the crab form was rather cool as well.

Kubo has got me hooked! :D

spacecat
09-05-2008, 06:21 AM
Ah ok so that's why they couldn't explain the weapons, I dunno what I'd call em either. Oh well thanks sleepyfans and Agent007 for the raw.

balladbird
09-05-2008, 06:24 AM
Thanks again, Zangetsu01 :love

I am curious about this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/324/07/) though. "It's time to put an end to this battle. The same way you guys do. In other words, I will carve you up."

Naturally, that's what an enemy wants to do -- carve you up. But Findor personalizes it by focusing on "you guys" -- Shinigami. To my mind, this reminds me of Zommari's comments before he bought the farm. I know hollows hate their natural enemy, the Shinigami, but it does make me wonder what kind of poisonous rhetoric Aizen's been filling their ears with.

Just a thought. :)

Well, the shinigami are far from innocent, so it's not necessarily prudent to believe that this anger they curry with the arrancar is based wholly in Aizen's lies. I'm sure before becoming Hybrids all of them have seen their fair share of weaker hollows being butchered by Shinigami, after all. ^^


As to the chapter, probably my favorite out of all the stall-battles to date. It was refreshing to see a shinigami actually struggling against his opponent, intsead of overwhelming them right off the bat with nonsensical ability. Granted, I still suspect that now that Shuhei has released it'll mean a one-hit kill for him in the next chapter. It has for everyone else. >.>

If that turns out to be the case, then the ants vs. dragons fights had best come to an end by the next chapter.

Southwind
09-05-2008, 06:31 AM
This was a nice chapter and I was glad because It was refreshing to see a shinigami actually struggling against his opponent, intsead of overwhelming them right off the bat with nonsensical ability
Btw, Findor at some places looked a lot like Ichigo!

spacecat
09-05-2008, 06:33 AM
Well, the shinigami are far from innocent, so it's not necessarily prudent to believe that this anger they curry with the arrancar is based wholly in Aizen's lies. I'm sure before becoming Hybrids all of them have seen their fair share of weaker hollows being butchered by Shinigami, after all. ^^

lol yeah look at what Kira just did...they are slaughtering hollows day and night, it's their job. Aizen has no reason to lie about such things lol

NakeBenihime
09-05-2008, 06:33 AM
Kazeshini!!! We finally know its name!! We finally see its form! :wtf *has been waiting a long time for this scene*

And, Findol is a crab? Mmm...crab... Me loves fresh crab... Shuuhei, don't dessimate him too much! Keep his body intact for the meat! He looks like good eats to me...:D

FeZ14
09-05-2008, 06:38 AM
Yoh!!! Great chapter, and that was just from the beginning.

For all those in doubt about Kira finishing off Redder, that first slide affirms his 'badassery' :cool: That was cold, and very ruthless with his 'I hope you don't forgive me' I am even more impressed by Kira Izuru!!

It's awesome seeing new kidou and bakudou spells, especially high powered ones like the one Hisagi used, level-62 not bad!! And his shikai is awesome. Now I'm sure most of our mouths are watering at what the next chapter unfolds to us, about his real power! We've been in the dark about Hisagi Shuuhei's abilities for a while now but this chapter just gave us a sneak peak at what he really has to offer.

Good chapter TK!!

Syn
09-05-2008, 08:17 AM
Wow Kira :love Count me in the Kira fangirls now :XD He was seriously badass and at the same time, there was such a feeling of sadness in those panels :3

As for Hisagi, I was never a fan of him, but seeing a character that thinks during the fights make me go "finallyyyyyyyyyyyyy thank youuuuuuuuuuuuu" :lmao

Yes, it was a very good read :XD

Eloni
09-05-2008, 08:34 AM
I soooooo knew that Shuuhei's shikai has to do something with wind (kaze) like Kensei's did! And he used kidou!:wtf Best chapter in months! I can't wait to see the next.:D

Spartan27
09-05-2008, 08:46 AM
Interesting weapons, I was expecting something like what BlackStar uses in Soul Eater, but I'm glad that it's a variation on the Kusari-gama. It's a pretty sick weapon, though it does look a little oversized imo, but then again this is Bleach we are talking about, most stuff in this manga is oversized.

Also I cant believe that I actually care and like Kira now, I mean he was cool in this chapter and the last, he's a lot different when he isn't thinking too much about his friends. I don't know if we have seen a decapitation yet in Bleach.

Soranushi
09-05-2008, 11:07 AM
Thanks again, Zangetsu01 :love

I am curious about this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/324/07/) though. "It's time to put an end to this battle. The same way you guys do. In other words, I will carve you up."

Naturally, that's what an enemy wants to do -- carve you up. But Findor personalizes it by focusing on "you guys" -- Shinigami. To my mind, this reminds me of Zommari's comments before he bought the farm. I know hollows hate their natural enemy, the Shinigami, but it does make me wonder what kind of poisonous rhetoric Aizen's been filling their ears with.

Just a thought. :)

Yeah, that sentence reminded me of Zommari as well. Honestly, it the same as when the Arrancar's were hollows all they want is to survive and live on. I bet its one of the reasons they follow Aizen to be freed from the neverending struggle of the dog-eats-dog world they live in......So I suppose this is just a battle of survival for the Arrancars and maybe even something more than just that.

Well anyway this was a fantastic chapter and like it was said earlier it's nice to see someone break a sweat once in awhile whilst fighting. Anyway Findor's Release was quite awesome. I was actually expecting something kinda ugly when I read about the Crab release earlier but it was quite awesome when I saw it a couple minutes ago:D.

And Kira he was f*cken cool being all "Farewell Sky Warrior.....I Pray that you dont forgive me.......":cool::noes. I liked Hisagi's little exploding bracelets:p and his release was pretty cool but not as cool as I thought it was:noworries. Still it was great finally seeing what it looked like:che, and since it basically means "Wind reaper" I cant wait see if he was awesome Wind powers:D. Great chapter was Great:wha.

imamess
09-05-2008, 11:09 AM
Sleepyfan scan is up:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/324/

I'm interesting in the potential for his shikai and exactly what it can do. He obviously throws it to deflect things, so I wonder if he'll swing it around to create some kind of wind.

I wonder if, like Kira, Shuuhei will get some long speech to counter Findor's whole thing about life being a string of problems, and you just need to make the most correct choices. That kind of thing is waiting for a rebuttal.

hinamori_momo
09-05-2008, 11:10 AM
I was a bit disappointed with this chapter, but i liked how that fraccion can beat shinigami, so its not : GOOD PPLZ WILL WIN which makes everything interesting. interesting how Findor is a crab.

Darkcountessb
09-05-2008, 11:17 AM
I think Kubo was eating dinner and watching Sailor Moon when he created Barragan's fraccion.

Go Kira! :yay I think that was the only part I liked about this chapter was Kira.

Ah well at least BBQ chicken is on the menu for when the shinigami win this war.

Soranushi
09-05-2008, 11:19 AM
I wonder if, like Kira, Shuuhei will get some long speech to counter Findor's whole thing about life being a string of problems, and you just need to make the most correct choices. That kind of thing is waiting for a rebuttal.

You know I wouldn't be surprised if this does happen 'cause these ants&dragons battle's have shown us stuff about what peoples morals in life. Yumi's was about beauty, Kira's was about War, and Hisagi's seems to be abuot choices. I wonder though what will Ikkakus be about if these battles do represent values and morals in life.

SightUnseen
09-05-2008, 11:32 AM
Soranushi: I think we've already know what Ikkaku' morals are since he fought Eduardo (GJ fraccion) and used his bankai.

imamess
09-05-2008, 11:40 AM
Ikkaku's will probably be something about devotion, since Po at the start was saying something about praying to the king (Barragan), who is his god. Ikkaku also loyally follows Kenpachi to the point of hiding his power so as not to get promoted.

Soranushi
09-05-2008, 11:46 AM
Lol, Sight I forgot about that:p, but imamess is probably right and its going to be about "devotion". But, it was covered already in his last fight, so I guess it'll be kinda like Yumi's battle, in that, Ikkaku&Po will fight to determine who's more devoted.

Rain
09-05-2008, 12:10 PM
*:fangirls over chapter*

this is a much better fight than the previous two:wtf findor looks cool, he was fighting to kill and hisagis shikai looks pretty cool

when i first read findor was a crab i was kind of ":sweat" but it looks cool:XD

Raf
09-05-2008, 12:39 PM
Awesome yay Hisagi! And an incantation bypass up to level 62, truly he exceeds that of a Lieutenant.

FeZ14
09-05-2008, 12:47 PM
You know I wouldn't be surprised if this does happen 'cause these ants&dragons battle's have shown us stuff about what peoples morals in life. Yumi's was about beauty, Kira's was about War, and Hisagi's seems to be abuot choices. I wonder though what will Ikkakus be about if these battles do represent values and morals in life.

You hit the nail on the head with that one!! I didn't think of it that way before. Trust TK to get philosophical :p but it's very insightful, these fights and the verbal exchanges between the Ants and Dragons. I reckon that Ikkaku's could be about pride or inner strength, those traits are a part of him.

P.S. Who needs schools when we learn so much from manga :cool:

Shinrin
09-05-2008, 01:50 PM
The fact that Ikkaku is the last one we'll see make me consider even more if he actually might die.

Decent chapter this week in Bleach style, but more story would help a lot these days

spacecat
09-05-2008, 01:51 PM
lol Shinrin it amazes me you still think he can die, props dude.

I dunno if I like all the speeches, comes across a bit high and mighty imo... though i spose if you win you get to be :p

Shinrin
09-05-2008, 02:03 PM
Well one of the main strengths in Bleach is what I want to happen.

I don't remember another manga that has made me imagine so many options and yet so few times deliver em.

And being the last one all the attention will be on him, and he will refuse to get help dour to honor and he won't pull out his Bankai and so to make any threat of the arrancars and giving any purpose in the Pillars fights he should lose and go out with a bang.(Plz let it happen)

zan2pacto
09-05-2008, 02:28 PM
this chapter is win. Hopefully the next chapter will deliver as well.

i wonder if we will get an explanation on why everyone's shikai is suddenly so uber?

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 02:56 PM
So far we've had poultry, so the next victim of carnage will probably be the crab/lobster, or else some random cow will show up on the battlefield.

Amazing! Your intuition was scary.o.o If I didn't already give you cookie for laugh. I'd rep you again!

Oh yeah...Smach sup!

This was the first Arrancar Release I really liked. Cool Shuihei I liked his dual Zankapakuto's. I can't wait to see him serve this lobster. I hope KT takes a little time with this one since Hisagi never gets to shine. I wouldn't mind if he went a four or five chapters. As long as he doesn't pull a Szayel...Four a five chapters and glimpse of Ichigo would be ok.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/em0136.gifI WANNA SEE ICHIGO!http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/q60-1.gif<---Ignore yell of frustration.

Agmaster
09-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Wow, this chapter seemed...really flacid. Like it was just going through the motions. From Kira's resignation and conclusion, to the new conflict. Aside from Exacta and a few quips, they are just going through the motions.

Shuuhei never did strike me as much of a talker, though. Guess that's why the ladies love him. Right?

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 03:04 PM
Shuuhei never did strike me as much of a talker, though. Guess that's why the ladies love him. Right? Either you are hetero or BLIND.

He's HOT! That's why...http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/yociexp15.gif

Budo
09-05-2008, 03:32 PM
Meh. I hated this chapter more than the past one, I liked the first panels with Kira, but f#ck...Bleach has become too fan-serving. I really couldn't care less about Shuuhei's shikai. I wanna see the plot move forward.


And Kubo, man, would it hurt to show your work to someone who actually speaks Spanish?
All those "Exacta!" make me cringe.:facepalm

The Cool
09-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Man some people complain way to much. I'm sure a lot less if it would go on if the chapters weren't so damn short. On another note thanks for the chapter link and for the spoilers earlier this week everyone (you know who you are)

spacecat
09-05-2008, 03:51 PM
Man some people complain way to much. I'm sure a lot less if it would go on if the chapters weren't so damn short.
You know... people like/want different things from the manga and you are complaining each week about others complaining so it's kinda ironic. If people don't like it it's their business, we can't love every chapter. It's great that you find it fun, that should be enough.

sketch
09-05-2008, 04:07 PM
"This war held everything in the balance - and the sword that could rip through it's darkness raced forward!"

Anyone else suddenly think that Ichigo was going to appear then?
I'm actually confused as to who it was referring to, it seems a bit odd if it was Hisagi. Mainly because, it's the kind of line you say about a main character.

*shrugs*

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 04:18 PM
"This war held everything in the balance - and the sword that could rip through it's darkness raced forward!"

Anyone else suddenly think that Ichigo was going to appear then?

*shrugs* *prays like hell this is so....*http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/yoyo066.gif

Kira's coolness is wasted on cheesy win *Wabisuke sucks BIG time!*
I don't mind the Hisagi shine...if I survive the nose bleed:yell

gigantor21
09-05-2008, 04:46 PM
The chapter was okay. It wasn't bad, per se, but it felt empty. Insincere.

Findor's "exam" quirk was generic and random. The fight didn't present anything exciting or surprising. There wasn't much story, but the chapter was paced well (thank God). All in all, it was just "meh".

Also, as cool as Kazeshini looks, I was annoyed at how it beat Pinsaguda so easily. If it were done tactically like Kira's, that's one thing, but it looked like Shuuhei just blasted the water away. I'm hoping it's not because of some convenient Pokemon logic or something.

My favorite part was in the beginning. Kira standing over his opponent's decapitated body, hoping that he wouldn't be forgiven, was chilling.

(Also, I really liked the art this week. It was very cleanly done, even during the exchanges, which was nice. I don't get why that happened THIS week, though. :p)

WatanukiXXX
09-05-2008, 04:53 PM
Surprise, I thought this chapter was decent-ish. It's tolerable. Compared with the rest of these filler fights at least Findor looked cool :fu

On Kira...the less said the better or I'd rant again :yell

I notice that when Kubo gives an arrancar an insect or err hard-shell (what's the term something -pod) release the designs come out better than when he gives them a mamalian or bird one ( I for one wasn't wowed by Nell or Grimmjow)

And Shuuhei's release was just meh for me. It looked silly. Reminded me of those childrens windmills as a kid.

So next week Findor gets owned, Shuuhei gives his big speech on whatever pretentious drivel Kubo wants to bore me with next, then two more weeks of Po vs Ikakku.

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 05:01 PM
Wow I loved Nel's release. Grimm's had to grow on me..
The bugs do come out better...and the seafood.<--I love Seafood.

If you rant about Kira, I will join you. I seriously hate him.

I liked Hisagi's shikai it reminds me of Chinese Axes. Makes me want to watch "3 evil Masters, Avenging Eagle, Challenge of the Ninja or Ten tigers of Kwang Tung"or maybe even "The Death Chamber" No the *Spear men of Death aka The Black Flag" <--- The Axe Man or "The Kid with the Golden arms"

I have real thing for Martial Arts, I prefer Chinese Kung-fu.

soulcandy
09-05-2008, 05:15 PM
"This war held everything in the balance - and the sword that could rip through it's darkness raced forward!"

Anyone else suddenly think that Ichigo was going to appear then?
I'm actually confused as to who it was referring to, it seems a bit odd if it was Hisagi. Mainly because, it's the kind of line you say about a main character.

*shrugs*

Hah yes, I definitely thought it meant Ichigo... got me all excited but no...false alarm. If it's about Shuuhei I hope we get to see some cool attacks from him in the next chapter though. I did love the fact that he used the kidou, that was awesome.

Also, when he told Findor to shut up with the Exacta I was all: thank you! ..It was starting to get a bit annoying, imo:rolleyes:

I love Hisagi, but I'm starting to get a bit bored with the way the battles are going right now..I like it more when more than one thing is shown in the chapter, instead of just one specific battle.

bradc
09-05-2008, 05:45 PM
Ah ok so that's why they couldn't explain the weapons, I dunno what I'd call em either. Oh well thanks sleepyfans and Agent007 for the raw.

Pair of Scythe, the chain allows the weapon to be thrown around :fu


Here are the name translations (http://deathlike.livejournal.com/1168356.html):

檜佐木 修兵; Hisagi Shuuhei: Chinese/Japanese Cypress Subordinate (Assist, Second, Aid) Cultivate (Study, Repair) Soldier (Troop)

Hisagi's weapon are used for cultivation during farming season

イヅル 吉良; Izuru Kira: One's Seated Posture, Lucky (Propitious, Good) Good (Virtuous, Respectable)

Pretty much same with his own sword. Even in despair, there's hope.

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 06:02 PM
Pair of Scythe, the chain allows the weapon to be thrown around :fu


Here are the name translations (http://deathlike.livejournal.com/1168356.html):

檜佐木 修兵; Hisagi Shuuhei: Chinese/Japanese Cypress Subordinate (Assist, Second, Aid) Cultivate (Study, Repair) Soldier (Troop)

Hisagi's weapon are used for cultivation during farming season

イヅル 吉良; Izuru Kira: One's Seated Posture, Lucky (Propitious, Good) Good (Virtuous, Respectable)

Pretty much same with his own sword. Even in despair, there's hope.

I was right...it is Chinese! :D Just like ikkaku looks like Lui Chia Hui aka Gordon Lu the "The Master Killer aka The 36 chambers." and his weapon looks like the Fighting Sticks the Monk San Te is credited with inventing in the movie. Merged with the Axe ,Spear & Pole he uses in that and most Movies

Shuihei just got cooler!:yell

Velius
09-05-2008, 06:02 PM
So next week Findor gets owned, Shuuhei gives his big speech on whatever pretentious drivel Kubo wants to bore me with next, then two more weeks of Po vs Ikakku.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Halibel's fraccion is next. You know it's coming. :fu They are going to fight the lower captains and vice captains. Everyone better get nice and cozy.

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 06:05 PM
I wonder if they will end up half naked when they release...
(Perviness comes out at random. Sorry :p )

Frac
09-05-2008, 06:25 PM
I was right about Pinza Aguda xD.

Does anybody know Findol's spell in japanese? Like "Inore" from Nnoitra or "Kirameke" from Coolhorn?

Jyuushiro
09-05-2008, 06:53 PM
I was right...it is Chinese! :D Just like ikkaku looks like Lui Chia Hui aka Gordon Lu the "The Master Killer aka The 36 chambers." and his weapon looks like the Fighting Sticks the Monk San Te is credited with inventing in the movie. Merged with the Axe ,Spear & Pole he uses in that and most Movies



The 36th chamber of shaolin, such a great movie, Ikkaku does look a bit like him :D

So the chains are to throw the scythes but they are also to connect the weapons, makes me think that the chains are just to show that before release it was just one weapon, like Ukitake and Truth of Pisces ^^

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 07:16 PM
The 36th chamber of shaolin, such a great movie, Ikkaku does look a bit like him :D

Wasn't it. Try Shaolin challenges the Ninja aka "Challenge of the Ninja" He kicks major ass. He marries a Japanese woman and her Judo was tearing up the house so he tells her to learn a Chinese style. She gets mad and goes home. To get her back he goes at her pride and says "Japanese Martial Arts were in fact Chinese. The first Japanese were Chinese" Which pisses off her Doujo. The result is the greatest martial arts you will ever see. <--Since he is a real fighter not just an actor.
They pit style against style. Weapons, Boxing Fight after Fight. (With great Plot)

The end fight with Yasuaki Kurata is one of the best in Shaw brothers history. "Master Killer" does the Crane style to combat Yasuaki Kurata Japanese Crab Technique. I love that movie. Thats It! I have to put a movie on while I sit here...:love

OH....I forgot about Ikkaku. (I really believed his character design is based on him
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/Bleach%20Photos/Masterkillerfightingsticks.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/Bleach%20Photos/Masterkiller2.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/Bleach%20Photos/MasterkilllerIkkaku.jpg


So the chains are to throw the scythes but they are also to connect the weapons, makes me think that the chains are just to show that before release it was just one weapon, like Ukitake and Truth of Pisces ^^

No his is not like theirs. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/no.giftheirs are twins one sword splits into two. Hisagi's are dual; they come as pair. He has two instead of them being twin.

Jyuushiro
09-05-2008, 07:29 PM
Ok thanks for the correction on that.

I love the genre, weird I haven't seen that one you mentioned.


PS: We should get together sometime and watch some kung fu flix xDD

bradc
09-05-2008, 07:30 PM
I was right...it is Chinese! :D Just like ikkaku looks like Lui Chia Hui aka Gordon Lu the "The Master Killer aka The 36 chambers." and his weapon looks like the Fighting Sticks the Monk San Te is credited with inventing in the movie. Merged with the Axe ,Spear & Pole he uses in that and most Movies

Shuihei just got cooler!:yell

Quite windy here...

Ikkaku's weapon turns into a Spear, and a Sanjiegun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_sectional_staff) (Three-section staff nunchucks). His bankai is more of a large attached double-axe.

Izuru's weapon is a Hook-Sword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_sword) or Chicken Sickles...

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 07:53 PM
Quite windy here...

Ikkaku's weapon turns into a Spear, and a Sanjiegun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_sectional_staff) (Three-section staff nunchucks). His bankai is more of a large attached double-axe.

Exactly !:D It's like he merged all three. The Shikai hasthree sections like the stick instead of two. That's how he surprised Ichigo. Because he was he wasn't used to three sections.

Ikkku's Bankai still has three sections even if he uses two to fight with. It looks Like giant Axes. but the design of the sections he holds and the end is shaped more like the spear/axe Master Killer's holding posted above.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1774/onebn7.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onebn7.jpg)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6048/twqgm0.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twqgm0.jpg)http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/521/threeim6.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=threeim6.jpg)http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6945/fouray3.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fouray3.jpg)
He's either based on this actor, San Te or both. imo...
He's as Chinese as Soi Fon and Rock Lee. Even the way he fights

Thanks for the proper name for them.:cool:

Chalice
09-05-2008, 08:38 PM
Hmmm did anyone notice that Avirama's body just laid there in a bloody mess and didn't vaporize into mid air? I thought Hollows vaporize when they get killed :confused:

Miyona
09-05-2008, 08:42 PM
Why did Findor release if he was winning :confused: it looks like he didnt need to >_>

and why does his release look like a pokemon :p

Covered
09-05-2008, 09:13 PM
Minamo ni kizame, Pinzaguda :fu
a fight between him and Kaien would be cool :heehee

Shdo
09-05-2008, 09:21 PM
next week, plotkai.

H!Mandy
09-05-2008, 09:53 PM
OD ~ omg, it IS Ikkaku! XO

I wonder if KT likes kung-fu movies :lmao

Why did Findor release if he was winning :confused: it looks like he didnt need to >_>

and why does his release look like a pokemon :p

lol, Krabby! XD~

I think he wanted to end it up with Hisagi already, and I'm happy, the fights are quite quick right now

I'm just filled with joy by the fact that Kira just killed Avirama like that :love

CeriaHalcyon
09-05-2008, 10:16 PM
All i gotta say is that it's about damn time, and unlike espada pumpkin, he didnt let us down.

but, this does bring to mind something that yamamoto said about kyoraku's and Ukitake's zanpakuto being the only two that are a pair.

Velius
09-05-2008, 10:24 PM
Hmmm did anyone notice that Avirama's body just laid there in a bloody mess and didn't vaporize into mid air? I thought Hollows vaporize when they get killed :confused:
Did you skip the Nnoirta fight? :D Most of the arrancar have just died and not went anywhere.
Why did Findor release if he was winning :confused: it looks like he didnt need to >_>

and why does his release look like a pokemon :p
Hisagi pretty much pissed him off. :lmao

every week, plotkai.
Fixed.

You make it too easy shdo. Keep em comin. :D

.access timeco.
09-05-2008, 10:46 PM
I don't get the "vaporize" thing. Grand Fisher and Zommari did it. Avirama, Nnoitra and Tesra didn't.
At first I thought that, maybe, Kenpachi's zanpakutou couldn't purify the souls or Nnoitra and Tesra were still alive. But there is no way in hell Avirama is alive and Wabisuke has nothing strange to justify something killed by it to not be purified.

Or maybe Grand Fisher and Zommari are the ones who weren't killed o_O
I mean, think about it, Grand Fisher had a "double" body when he was a Hollow. And Zommari... is weird!

KT makes it too easy
Fixed.


(sry, had to)

Clappers
09-05-2008, 11:00 PM
I dunno. I think the "vaporise" thing just depends on the circumstances. I mean all Arrancar when released sorta vaporise in a way back to their original form, I guess some just chose to die instantly or have no actual choice. (Which in Bleach land is very dubious, given Zommari screams before doing it whilst Nnoitra and Tesla both hit the floor silent...)

bradc
09-05-2008, 11:02 PM
All i gotta say is that it's about damn time, and unlike espada pumpkin, he didnt let us down.

but, this does bring to mind something that yamamoto said about kyoraku's and Ukitake's zanpakuto being the only two that are a pair.

Red Lobster, Dim Sum and KFC... Let's go grab a bite!

The old man is not going to let everyone in his every secret about Soul Society, particularly with his Elite Force and Chamber 46. Yamamoto did say if it wasn't for existence of Shinigami, they wouldn't exist in the first place.

Got to love the Lieutenants for starting up the wars :fu

abgalid
09-05-2008, 11:08 PM
I don't get the "vaporize" thing. Grand Fisher and Zommari did it. Avirama, Nnoitra and Tesra didn't.
At first I thought that, maybe, Kenpachi's zanpakutou couldn't purify the souls or Nnoitra and Tesra were still alive. But there is no way in hell Avirama is alive and Wabisuke has nothing strange to justify something killed by it to not be purified.

Or maybe Grand Fisher and Zommari are the ones who weren't killed o_O
I mean, think about it, Grand Fisher had a "double" body when he was a Hollow. And Zommari... is weird!


Fixed.


(sry, had to)
Besides the whole 'vaporizing' thing, one thing that has bothered me for a long time is how the Gates of Hell never appear anymore. (Remember the dead-parrot episode?) I thought the bad ones will be dragged to hell but up till now, I've yet to see one arrancar or fraccion or menos or any other hollow since that episode to suffer the same fate. Even Grand Fisher wasn't dragged to hell after Isshin killed him. Hmm ...

Miyona
09-05-2008, 11:11 PM
lol, Krabby! XD~


Krabby use water gun!

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/324/15/

>____> :p

And I guess that makes Abirama a Pidgey or something? :p

Did you skip the Nnoirta fight? :D Most of the arrancar have just died and not went anywhere.


Its okay, wouldnt be suprised if most people skipped that fight >_>

All i gotta say is that it's about damn time, and unlike espada pumpkin, he didnt let us down.

but, this does bring to mind something that yamamoto said about kyoraku's and Ukitake's zanpakuto being the only two that are a pair.

At least the pumpkin will survive more chapters then Findor it seems...

BleachOD
09-05-2008, 11:51 PM
Hmmm did anyone notice that Avirama's body just laid there in a bloody mess and didn't vaporize into mid air? I thought Hollows vaporize when they get killed :confused:

Maybe he did while Kira was