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Velius
08-26-2008, 02:46 AM
Everything posted will go in this front post so check here before posting. Do not post scanlations/translations etc that you did not do and claim you did, we will ban you.

Note:
The raw mentions that Volume 35 will be released on the 4th of the 10th. The cover goes to "the mad scientist" Mayuri Kurotsuchi.

Scanlations:

US Scanlation is up too
http://mediafire.com/?h2hgj3xmdba
Thanks to Sleepy Fans

Here is the RAW
http://www.mediafire.com/?l3ktm00ymzj
~Thanks to Agent007 (SleepyFans)~

Summary by Annie:

Bleach 323

Continues from the last chapter Kira simply said, “Iron wings? That is a strong name. But wings are just wings.” He then threw his sword up in the air and used Hadou #53 Tenrun which created a windy storm. Arivama lost his balance but managed to stop the storm. Once he turned back to Kira he already broke into a building. Arivama used his features as bullets and shoot them into the building. Kia ran out of a building and destroyed the poles on the street as shields. He realized that the features could re grow. Arivama yelled he wouldn’t let Kira do whatever he’s planning then scratched his chest to draw blood. Suddenly another set of wings appeared on his back. He flew and used his left wing to hit Kira.

Arivama was surprised to see saw Kira laying down on the same spot he had attacked. When Arivama was getting smug over it Kira thanked him.

“You’re a long-range fighter. I was thinking how could I lure you to be near me...my zampakutou couldn’t affect the distanced objects.” Arivama was about to yell how could a weird looking sword do anything when his body fell.

His left wing is pulling him down until the floor break and he fell down to another floor. Kira then explained how Wabisuke could double the weight of the objects. Since Arivama’s wings are as heavy as rock, it is impossible for him fly anymore. Arivama accused Kira of cheating. Kira asked back that didn’t Arivama asked him to cheer before the fight.

“If that action is of a warrior’s then it is beyond my understanding. The 3rd division flower is Mary’s Gold. It means hopeless and it is the pride of the 3rd Division.”

“Battles are not the way to become a hero. It is not a joy that bring pleasure. Battles bring hopelessness, fear, and dark side and gruesomeness. Because of this people fears battles and choose the way to avoid them.” Kira slowly walking toward Arivama.

“I believe my Wabisuke is the best suited with the 3rd Division way of thinking out of all the zampakutous. More you cut, more you have carry the weights. Once you couldn’t carry them any longer you will bow down to the floor. As if you’re apologizing. That is Wabisuke.”

“You just asked how could a weird sword like this cut a person?” Asked Kira while rising his hand up. Arivama tried to protest when Kira simply said,

“A warrior wouldn’t beg for his life”

And he brought his blade down.

A note: There is no chapter title for this chapter. At least Drake couldn’t find it anywhere.

Looks like there will a voting for favorite zampakutou to celebrate Bleach 7th Anniversary.


Translation of the large spoiler by Danna:

吉良「戦いは英雄的であってはならない
Kira: War will not become heroic

戦いは爽快なものであってはならない
War will not become something refreshing

戦いとは絶望に満ち 暗く 怖ろしく 陰惨なものでなくてはならない
War will be full of despair and dark sorrow

それでこそ人は 戦いを恐れ
By those reasons, people are fear of war

戦いを避ける道を選択する
And choose the way to avoid conflicts

僕の斬魄刀 侘助は 全ての斬魄刀の中で最もその三番隊の考えに即した刀だと思ってる
斬りつけたものの重さを増やし続け 斬られた相手は重みに耐えかね地に這いつくばる
侘びるかのように 頭を差し出す
故に「侘助」
My Zanpakutou, Wabisuke, is said in the third division to be the most compliant sword of all Zanpakutou. Weight of things that are cut by this sword will continuously increase. Any opponents who are cut by it will not be able to stand their own increasing weight and grovel on the ground. They will hold out their heads as if grieving. That is “Wabisuke”.

その妙な刃で一体何を斬るのかと訊いたね」
“You asked what the hell will be cut by that weird sword”

首に刀をすっぽり
The sword appeared at his neck

鳥「まっ…待ってくれ」
The bird guy “WA..wait!!”

吉良「戦士が 命乞いするもんじゃあないよ」
Kira “A warrior is not someone who begs for his life”

煽り
Aori

絶望 闇
Despair, Darkness…

Posted by Spacecat:

+破道の59 ?嵐(てんらん)くらい 

オサレ文字なんで文字化けする・・・

Plus he uses Hadou (way of destruction) 59 ? Dark Storm

TN: I presume it's dark storm but I'm braindead at the moment. I'm also not sure why he has the kana for tenran in brackets, I know tenran can mean show/exhibition but I'm not sure why he's used it in this case...maybe it can also be storm.

The characters/writing on the first page is messed up/unclear.

Posted by Zangetsu01:

Jump #40 Cover
http://www.shueisha.co.jp/magazine/boyc/jpg/w_jump0475_h.jpeg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7551/59069479ro7.jpg

Posted by yanniv:


吉良「戦いは英雄的であってはならない

戦いは爽快なものであってはならない

戦いとは絶望に満ち 暗く 怖ろしく 陰惨なものでなくてはならない

それでこそ人は 戦いを恐れ

戦いを避ける道を選択する

僕の斬魄刀 侘助は 全ての斬魄刀の中で最もその三番隊の考えに即した刀だと思ってる
斬りつけたものの重さを増やし続け 斬られた相手は重みに耐えかね地に這いつくばる
侘びるかのように 頭を差し出す
故に「侘助」

その妙な刃で一体何を斬るのかと訊いたね」
首に刀をすっぽり

鳥「まっ…待ってくれ」

吉良「戦士が 命乞いするもんじゃあないよ」

煽り
絶望 闇…

Gamma
08-28-2008, 05:38 AM
吉良「戦いは英雄的であってはならない

戦いは爽快なものであってはならない

戦いとは絶望に満ち 暗く 怖ろしく 陰惨なものでなくてはならない

それでこそ人は 戦いを恐れ

戦いを避ける道を選択する

僕の斬魄刀 侘助は 全ての斬魄刀の中で最もその三番隊の考えに即した刀だと思ってる
斬りつけたものの重さを増やし続け 斬られた相手は重みに耐えかね地に這いつくばる
侘びるかのように 頭を差し出す
故に「侘助」

その妙な刃で一体何を斬るのかと訊いたね」
首に刀をすっぽり

鳥「まっ…待ってくれ」

吉良「戦士が 命乞いするもんじゃあないよ」

煽り
絶望 闇…

Velius
08-28-2008, 06:27 AM
Thank for the spoiler yan. Look like Izuru is up.

Isaiah1989
08-28-2008, 06:35 AM
ahhh hopefully there's some good action from Kira's fight

balladbird
08-28-2008, 06:37 AM
*prays this chapter brings Kira's fight to a close*

perhaps only two fodder left after today!

Zangetsu01
08-28-2008, 06:38 AM
Jump #40 Cover, Thx Deu$

http://www.shueisha.co.jp/magazine/boyc/jpg/w_jump0475_h.jpeg

Flying Banana
08-28-2008, 06:40 AM
zangetsu :wtf thanks for posting that :wtf
some IchiRuki i see :fu Rukia looks really pretty there :wtf

yeah i really hope Kira's fight's interesting like coolhorn :heehee

furato
08-28-2008, 06:41 AM
Ooh, movie poster. I'm not following the release schedule, is it going to be aired soon?

Velius
08-28-2008, 06:45 AM
Ooh, movie poster. I'm not following the release schedule, is it going to be aired soon?
Not aired, released in the theaters. :D But yes, kinda soon. December 13th is the release date. Hopefully we will have the 2nd one by then. :hm

Zangetsu01
08-28-2008, 06:56 AM
Here is the color page

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9946/bleach3232ov4.jpg

Sorry, home-made work, and I'm not good with Paint :(

A better looking version, Thx Deu$

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7551/59069479ro7.jpg

Soranushi
08-28-2008, 07:03 AM
Wow! I was kinda bummed out knowing that the Color page was more than likely gonna be one of the main crew again. But this Ichigo color page is pretty awesome:D.

Thanks Zangetsu01 for the pics and Yanniv for the summary:thumbs

Nacchan
08-28-2008, 07:13 AM
thank you very much yanniv-san and Zangetsu01-san :hug

so the next chapter will be Kira-kun's fight? waah I can't wait! :noes

袖の白雪
08-28-2008, 07:17 AM
Yeah, Kira's fight! I can't wait either since I have not seen him in the manga for a while. :wha

And thank you Zangetsu01 and Yanniv

furato
08-28-2008, 07:22 AM
Ichigo again? :/ Nice to see Kubo being experimental though. If only we get more of the vice-captains...

jinxie
08-28-2008, 07:26 AM
OMG! :wtf IchiRuki COVER! Ichigo COLOUR!

AND Kira fight :inlove!!!

You are all wonderful for posting the info!! I am all jumpy after work and yay! OK, 5pm should leave soon but must read more...

And yay! I also have Friday (tommorrow) off so long weekend!!!

It is a good week ;)

Kristen
08-28-2008, 07:28 AM
The jump cover is actually really pretty, imo. I love that his art is improving.
I don't like the spread that much. I wanted more characters.

Can't wait for the translations though =3

Danna
08-28-2008, 07:46 AM
吉良「戦いは英雄的であってはならない
Kira: War will not become heroic

戦いは爽快なものであってはならない
War will not become something refreshing

戦いとは絶望に満ち 暗く 怖ろしく 陰惨なものでなくてはならない
War will be full of despair and dark sorrow

それでこそ人は 戦いを恐れ
By those reasons, people are fear of war

戦いを避ける道を選択する
And choose the way to avoid conflicts

僕の斬魄刀 侘助は 全ての斬魄刀の中で最もその三番隊の考えに即した刀だと思ってる
斬りつけたものの重さを増やし続け 斬られた相手は重みに耐えかね地に這いつくばる
侘びるかのように 頭を差し出す
故に「侘助」
My Zanpakutou, Wabisuke, is said in the third division to be the most compliant sword of all Zanpakutou. Weight of things that are cut by this sword will continuously increase. Any opponents who are cut by it will not be able to stand their own increasing weight and grovel on the ground. They will hold out their heads as if grieving. That is “Wabisuke”.

その妙な刃で一体何を斬るのかと訊いたね」
“You asked what the hell will be cut by that weird sword”

首に刀をすっぽり
The sword appeared at his neck

鳥「まっ…待ってくれ」
The bird guy “WA..wait!!”

吉良「戦士が 命乞いするもんじゃあないよ」
Kira “A warrior is not someone who begs for his life”

煽り
Aori

絶望 闇
Despair, Darkness…

Soranushi
08-28-2008, 07:54 AM
Thanks Danna:)

Well at least Kubo is going pretty fast with the fights I glad that they'll probably be over pretty soon. Anyway, too bad for Abirama he was pretty cool while he lasted.....Well Farewell Abirama:cool:.

La`Punyeta
08-28-2008, 07:56 AM
spoilers out already...:yay

oh so it's a kira fight...and avira lose..as usual..:lmao 2 down..2 to go..

thx for the translation danna..

Amy corE
08-28-2008, 08:02 AM
A BIIIG THANKS to yanniv and Zangetsu01. Thank you guys for the spoilers.
And thanks, Danna, for translation.

Damn, I'm feeling ecstatic about the cover.:noes The art is very beautiful. Ichigo looks hot, Rukia is pretty. I don't like the colorpage however...er...

Hmm...Kira sure talks a lot. But I'm glad that Kubo is not intending to prolong Elite's fights for too many chapters.

♥IchiRuki♥
08-28-2008, 08:11 AM
Thank you very much Zangetsu01 for the cover, I love it! :wtf And thank you too for the color page. And thanks Yanniv and Danna for the spoilers and the translation.:) Kira fight? Yeaaaaah... ^^

Nell
08-28-2008, 08:16 AM
Jump cover looks great, the spoilers are meh... But giraffe neck Ichigo. AGAIN. Me doesn't want ;___;

bradc
08-28-2008, 08:18 AM
Thanks Dan, Yan and Zan :crazy

Somehow is bizarrely echoing the recent fillergami episode (sweatdrops).

Kira is just like his sword... Time to play badminton with the birdy :XD

furato
08-28-2008, 08:31 AM
Kira: War will not become heroic
War will not become something refreshing
War will be full of despair and dark sorrow
By those reasons, people fear war
Sa...sayonara Zetsubou-fukutaichou? O_O

Thanks Danna, Yanniv and Zangetsu for bringing in these spoilers, btw.

BleachOD
08-28-2008, 08:37 AM
Here is the color page

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9946/bleach3232ov4.jpg

Sorry, home-made work, and I'm not good with Paint :(

A better looking version, Thx Deu$

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7551/59069479ro7.jpg
God Bless you...God Bless you...http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/th018-1.gif

I sincerely mean it.



OMG! :wtf IchiRuki COVER! Ichigo COLOUR!

)http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/emo-icon_he.gif

OMG! http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/ichigowife/gifs/lols-1.gif

I can die happy! My threats...er prayers have been answered. Ichigo is included in color chapter...I don't have to kill the editors:cry

I so happy I don't care ...even if I think Wabisuke and Kira sucks. I want to see Hisagi release (For some reason those two words side by side seems smutty):headscratch...I think I am just a perv...;)

DeDaL
08-28-2008, 08:55 AM
Oh... Bleachigo again? Kinda ... well, it IS stylish, but GODDAMNIT! It's the 7th Anniversary of the series and all they do is announce a new movie!? How about some awesome full-color chapter, huh, punks? I still drool all over the full-color BanKai chapter, and most people simply masturbate to it. Wait, no, that's just me.

Anyway, this spoiler is certainly the latter part of the chapter, where Avirama's lying on floor and Kira actually has TIME to blabber around like a stupid dog. "Wabisuke's blablabla..." Will you SHUT UP with the obvious stuff, Kubo? Not all of us are as dumb as Wanderweiss.

Goddamn it, these chapters become shorter and shorter... I'd murder the WSJ's Editor-in-cheif if that's gonna give Bleach more weekly pages...

Yes, I want ACTION! Yeah, yeah, okay the last chapter was okay, it was all good-based on everything, but WHAT THE FUCK?! They have swords, so where's the swordfighting, fencing, smart moves? If everything would be done with "OMG, My dick is bigger. I win!" and "Your's bigger, but mine's fit your asshole better. I win!" attitude, then all this is going nowhere.

P.S> Yes, bad mood. Shounen Jump sucks ass lately.

Aalicia
08-28-2008, 09:23 AM
I want to see Hisagi release (For some reason those two words side by side seems smutty):headscratch...I think I am just a perv...;)

With good taste, though.

And looks like whatever there is on this week's Jump ended up perving a lot of people anyway... *stares oddly at DeDaL's post*

WatanukiXXX
08-28-2008, 09:30 AM
thanks Yanniv, Dana and Zangetsu01

Predictable? Yes
Repetitive? Yes
Pointless? Yes


why, it must be another Bleach chapter :facepalm

Ichigo colour page is hot though :nuts

spacecat
08-28-2008, 09:47 AM
69 added this on 2ch, though it's not that interesting lol


+破道の59 ?嵐(てんらん)くらい 

オサレ文字なんで文字化けする・・・


Plus he uses Hadou (way of destruction) 59 ? Dark Storm

TN: I presume it's dark storm but I'm braindead at the moment. I'm also not sure why he has the kana for tenran in brackets, I know tenran can mean show/exhibition but I'm not sure why he's used it in this case...maybe it can also be storm.

The characters/writing on the first page is messed up/unclear.
-------------------------------------------------------------

The spread is >.< (i knew I wasn't getting my hopes up for a reason :fu) and thanks Yan and Danna for the spoiler/trans...sounds a bit gloomy.

vkikay
08-28-2008, 10:00 AM
isn't this a full-color chapter? so no Hisagi?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!:yell:yell

i did love the cover though...cool.. thanks guys

i dunno 'bout the cover.... :headscratch there's something tad wrong with Ichi..:headscratch I WANT HISAGI!!!! :yell

imamess
08-28-2008, 11:31 AM
The color features looks to be nothing different. Just when I think I could potentially see character who generally get the shaft in that area and the new fodder fraccion, we get Ichigo. I know he's the hero and all, but I'd like some variety. The cover is kinda that same thing as well, but you can't really get creative with the cover, especially when you're promoting a movie.

As for the chapter, so predictable. I generally don't say that, because no matter how "predictable" people say some events are, no one really predicted it. But the idea that wabisuke would play directly against Avirama's flying was pretty much the general consensus around here. The details could make this a better chapter (as they usually do), but I'm pretty dubious.

Oh well, to me the only feature of these fights I'm looking forward to is finally seeing Shuuhei's shikai. Maybe we'll get it in a week (or two :sweat).

Rain
08-28-2008, 11:59 AM
thanks for the spoilers guys

the color spread is ok I guess :lmao I would have prefered one with all the heros doing something, not just Ichigo standing there

the cover is better, and maybe its cause Its kind of early here, but Ichigo looks wierd:rofl

the chapter itself, looks about average:p

Frostman
08-28-2008, 12:03 PM
Wow, my respect for Kira has suddenly gotten bigger. Thats an awesome quote he says.

Darkcountessb
08-28-2008, 12:22 PM
Thank you guys :hug you did a great job finding the spoilers and the covers. *bows*

I like the way they look even the one with Ichigo. To me it fits! I mean he is the main character of Bleach so having him on a color spread is great I think. The Jump cover is really nice as well. Either way I'm just glad to see these fraccion fights are almost done with.

debbiechan
08-28-2008, 12:32 PM
OOOOOhhhhh, Kira speaks. I'm a sucker for Kubo's little philosophical soliloquies. Kira is such a good mouthpiece for them!

And blam, one more down, two more to go! I was hoping for a more exciting fight but at least we got some poetic musings from Kira.

Thank you Zangetsu, Danna and Yanniv!

The cover looks a little blah to me but I can't see it very well--maybe I'm already getting tired of that "unhappy Rukia" face. She looks pretty, though.
Movie promos keep showing me her and Ichigo looking so angsty. :(

COLOR PAGE--GORGEOUS. Ichigo looks butch and troubled all at once--and I love his Hollow decoration there. It's really a nice drawing--I love it. I was hoping for more characters but this is apropos. Ichigo! Wonder how long it will be before the story gets back to him. Ulqui's had enough time to shiskabob him three ways by now.

Jyuushiro
08-28-2008, 12:55 PM
Awesome, thanks for the spoilers guys.

More Kira is what I wanted.:D

Fortunate
08-28-2008, 01:08 PM
Thanks for the spoilers. This looks like a quickie. :p

Inevitable.Exit
08-28-2008, 02:27 PM
Uh what is happening at the end of the spoiler. Kind of confused...

gab00n
08-28-2008, 02:37 PM
Seems like a cool chapter, thanks everyone for the spoilers. The color page is cool, that skull badge on Ichigo is pretty interesting. It kind of has a voodoo vibe to it, maybe it has something to do with his hollow powers. Ichigo can control your mind so watch out ladies.

Agmaster
08-28-2008, 02:38 PM
Haha. Shoulda worked for Tousen. Then when the coup came he would've probably been brought along. Poor guy. But way to speed through fodder.

Southwind
08-28-2008, 03:01 PM
Wow, this chapter is going to be good! I was looking forward to the Kira fight! Thanks guys for the spoilers! :D

Covered
08-28-2008, 03:19 PM
Kira beated Aquila already? so fast :fu
now I want to see more of Findol vs. Hisagi, it's going to be a great fight I think :heehee

Riekie
08-28-2008, 03:56 PM
Woah, Ichigo looks like hell, twice! those spoilers of the cover and some other colour page looks so bad, i can't even put it into words, well barely.

he looks like 27 years old there...woah KT.

Thanks everyone for the spoilers/translations:hug

and tch, pair 'em up with someone who doesn't have a good zanpaktou to kill 'em off for once..>.> this is getting old..

soulcandy
08-28-2008, 04:39 PM
Thanks for the spoilers and translations, guys! :]

Ahh, the ichiruki in me is definitely happy with that cover...and the color page is amazing.

Can't wait to finally get to see the Kira fight--I wonder if we'll get to see some reaction from Gin to it.

TotalAbsolute
08-28-2008, 04:42 PM
Thanks for teh spoilers and everything, um quick question about the ichigo picture, is that the inside of ichigo's banki cloak, if so i wonder if that skull is there . Im just wondering because thats what it looks like to me.

Annie
08-28-2008, 05:14 PM
From here (http://www.pantip.com/cafe/chalermthai/topic/A6937249/A6937249.html)

Bleach 323

Continues from the last chapter Kira simply said, “Iron wings? That is a strong name. But wings are just wings.” He then threw his sword up in the air and used Hadou #53 Tenrun which created a windy storm. Arivama lost his balance but managed to stop the storm. Once he turned back to Kira he already broke into a building. Arivama used his features as bullets and shoot them into the building. Kia ran out of a building and destroyed the poles on the street as shields. He realized that the features could re grow. Arivama yelled he wouldn’t let Kira do whatever he’s planning then scratched his chest to draw blood. Suddenly another set of wings appeared on his back. He flew and used his left wing to hit Kira.

Arivama was surprised to see saw Kira laying down on the same spot he had attacked. When Arivama was getting smug over it Kira thanked him.

“You’re a long-range fighter. I was thinking how could I lure you to be near me...my zampakutou couldn’t affect the distanced objects.” Arivama was about to yell how could a weird looking sword do anything when his body fell.

His left wing is pulling him down until the floor break and he fell down to another floor. Kira then explained how Wabisuke could double the weight of the objects. Since Arivama’s wings are as heavy as rock, it is impossible for him fly anymore. Arivama accused Kira of cheating. Kira asked back that didn’t Arivama asked him to cheer before the fight.

“If that action is of a warrior’s then it is beyond my understanding. The 3rd division flower is Mary’s Gold. It means hopeless and it is the pride of the 3rd Division.”

“Battles are not the way to become a hero. It is not a joy that bring pleasure. Battles bring hopelessness, fear, and dark side and gruesomeness. Because of this people fears battles and choose the way to avoid them.” Kira slowly walking toward Arivama.

“I believe my Wabisuke is the best suited with the 3rd Division way of thinking out of all the zampakutous. More you cut, more you have carry the weights. Once you couldn’t carry them any longer you will bow down to the floor. As if you’re apologizing. That is Wabisuke.”

“You just asked how could a weird sword like this cut a person?” Asked Kira while rising his hand up. Arivama tried to protest when Kira simply said,

“A warrior wouldn’t beg for his life”

And he brought his blade down.

A note: There is no chapter title for this chapter. At least Drake couldn’t find it anywhere.

Looks like there will a voting for favorite zampakutou to celebrate Bleach 7th Anniversary.

spacecat
08-28-2008, 05:20 PM
Thanks Annie...

Well the Banana sword gets my vote :cookie

Akutabi
08-28-2008, 05:22 PM
One wonders what convenience Ikkaku and Shuhei's opponents will provide them. Will Ikkaku also end up out of everyone's sights so that he can use bankai without worrying about being promoted on the spot?

Frostman
08-28-2008, 05:28 PM
Thank You Annie! Kira seems really cool in this chapter, Kubo really has a way with words.

La`Punyeta
08-28-2008, 05:29 PM
nice annie..thx for the summary...
favorite zampaktou voting?? lol...guess I'd go with Kenpachi's..
Im just hoping the hisagi and Ikaku fight will be different......btw.. liked the way Kira used a combination of his zanpaktou and kido...kinda nice..

Flying Banana
08-28-2008, 05:48 PM
i'm confused :lmao did Kira lose or something @__@

thanks for the scanlations Ann-chan and Yanniv and Danna :wha
the zanpalutou poll, of course mines'll be Hitsu :fu

vkikay
08-28-2008, 05:48 PM
Annie, YOU RULE!!! thanks for the summary.

now i think the chapter's more than OK even if Hisagi wasn't there. I like Kira's dialogue. can't wait to read with the panels

i like girly zanpaktous. i like Rukia's Sode no Shirayuki or Senbonzakura...:D hmmmm

.access timeco.
08-28-2008, 05:52 PM
Well, despite how pointless and predictable all those fights are (I am already start to not wanting Oomaeda to have his own 1-1 anymore, even if it makes him look badass), I have to say this chapter can be good due to Kira showing a different view about the battles.
Usually, we only get the view o the bloodlust characters in this subject (normally, the 11th Division), so it is good to see another view (in this case, opposite).

And I actually liked Kira reading the summary. I can't stop thinking his speach is like a slap in the face of the 11th division (and Avirama is exactly like them... but cute <3).

So, Águila = weaker Golondrina + Santa Teresa? :D ok, I think he will look great with 2 pairs of wings.


EDIT: I wonder if we'll get to see the avatar of the TOP5 Zanpakutou in a color spread *_* *_* *_*

Black Dahlia
08-28-2008, 06:21 PM
The summary makes it sound like a great chapter. Kira's getting tons of airplay nowadays.

debbiechan
08-28-2008, 06:27 PM
Another poll? Hee, WSJ is brave. Where do we send in our votes? Mine goes to Senbonzakura. Scatter! Just too cool.

Thanks Annie. I love all Kira's speech. Wonder if we go straight to Hisagi next or if we get a bit of a tease because people want Hisagi's shikai (OR BANKAI! :eek:) more than they want to see Ikkaku...

One chapter for Hisagi and one for Ikkaku? Naw, that's too short. I want at least one of these fights to be trouble for the VC.

Happy Seventh Anniversary Jump. The cover with the weird-angled Ichigo and the poopy-faced Rukia is growing on me. It's awfully soon for a movie tie-in cover but I guess that's what it is. I expect they'll be another in December. I just wish Rukia were cheerier--the pose is almost identical to a chapter spread they had once in SS with Rukia being damsel in distress.

On the other hand, I'm loving the Ichigo color page more. He looks ominous. That skull over his heart is just whispering Shirosaki to me.

MasterOfPupets
08-28-2008, 06:29 PM
Annie and all, Thanks for the spoilers.

After reading that speach by Kira, I think he's become one of my favorite characters.

Loose Canon
08-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Thanks annie for the summary, and thanks yanniv, Danna, zangetsu01 and space for all the spoilers/translations! (Did I get everyone? *frets*)

I think I'm going to really get into this chapter. I just love learning about what all the various squads stand for, so I'm eating up Kira's little speech with a spoon! :) Up till now, I had a certain disdain for Squad Three, thanks in part to Gin, but I've got a new respect for it now. Good job, KT, as always! :thumbs

Another thing that I'm happy about -- no wasted time on these side-fights. They have to get done, obviously; the fraccion were introduced, so they've got to be dealt with, but KT seems to recognize that devoting about 2 chappies per "dragon" is all that's needed.

I just have a question -- where have all the hollow holes gone? None on Coolhorn (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/322/02/), nor on Findor (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/322/11/), and I can't see any on Abirama (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/322/18/). I was totally buying the theory that the more evolved the arrancar, the smaller/less distinguishable the hollow hole, but that doesn't fit (Ulquiorra has one, after all). And Abirama seems even less evolved than Coolhorn, not to mention he's kind of a birdbrain (<--ooh, a pun! Funny, right? No? Ah well, I'll try harder:rolleyes: )

I guess I'm saying I just miss hollows looking like hollows. :(


EDIT:
Another poll? Hee, WSJ is brave. Where do we send in our votes? Mine goes to Senbonzakura. Scatter! Just too cool.


*hugs Senbonzakura* It's got my vote. :)

xbleachrengadex
08-28-2008, 06:41 PM
thanks annie =]

lookingback7
08-28-2008, 07:28 PM
Thanks for the spoilers guys! Very interesting chapter. I like it.

balladbird
08-28-2008, 07:35 PM
Even with suspension of disbelief at its maximum level... I'm having an increasingly hard time swallowing the incredible luck all the shinigami (captains as well as lieutenants) have had with running into the one exact arrancar against whom their abilities and expertise is the most effective. >.<

Byakuya and Zommari, Kenpachi and Nnoitra, Mayuri and Szayel, Yumichika and Coolhorn... now this? >.< If the captains had run into each other's enemies instead we'd be looking at an entirely new manga.

*sigh* at this rate, Oomaeda's gonna win his fight because the fraccion he ends up battling will lose power when their oponent whines.

Rain
08-28-2008, 07:45 PM
Annie- thanks for the summary


kira is pretty cool, he is fun to listen too, so the third division is like the exact opposite of the 11th, they don't enjoy fighting, see fighting totally differently, cool:D


space- banana sword better win :yell

zangetsu will win i bet:-_-

:lmao

Jyuushiro
08-28-2008, 07:55 PM
Byakuya and Zommari, Kenpachi and Nnoitra, Mayuri and Szayel, Yumichika and Coolhorn... now this? >.< If the captains had run into each other's enemies instead we'd be looking at an entirely new manga.




True but I think that even if they didnt get matched up they would still win their fights, I dont really mind what TK is doing, I actually think is kinda cool and sucky for those Espada and Fraccion:cool:


So a poll for best release, Hitsugaya will probably win. LOL

Miyona
08-28-2008, 07:57 PM
Rukia looks old in that cover...not saying the cover isnt nice but it looks like she has wrinkles on her face or something...

anyways...

OMG these chapters *sigh* someone spare us from them >_>

Im hoping the captain fights will be a lot better, but its gonna be funny when the captains beat up on the espada much like whats happing right now>_>

and Aizen is still sitting on his butt doing who knows what.

balladbird
08-28-2008, 08:04 PM
True but I think that even if they didnt get matched up they would still win their fights, I dont really mind what TK is doing, I actually think is kinda cool and sucky for those Espada and Fraccion:cool:


So a poll for best release, Hitsugaya will probably win. LOL


I agree that anyone captain could have succeeded in killing Nnoitra, and any VC of killing Coolhorn... though I can't imagine anyone other than Mayuri could have possibly killed Szayel... even he had to go into god mode to kill that hax character. ^^

I don't really mind it... it's just strange that this Redder guy is so perfectly matched to Kira's ability.

ch1mera
08-28-2008, 08:20 PM
Thanks for the spoilers yan, space and danna. And thanks for the summary, Annie!

The cover and the color spread are ok. That skull reminds me the badge of substitute shinigami :p Very predictable chapter, that´s all I have to say. Now I´m looking forward to see Hisagi and Ikakku.

Jyuushiro
08-28-2008, 08:21 PM
^^

I don't really mind it... it's just strange that this Redder guy is so perfectly matched to Kira's ability.


Hax character, loooool.

It is more strange that he had to mention how his wings are made of steel and heavier than rocks. xD

Sidonzo
08-28-2008, 09:06 PM
Loving Kira in this! XD

stark espada
08-28-2008, 09:06 PM
sigh another disappointing and obvious loss :-_- I mean this one was not even a guess to how he would win I mean birdman I had high hopes for so yet again another arrancar loses yet again making them look like more jokes :-_- Ah I really wish these would play out to get an arrancar win but I think I have just given up all hopes
I REALLY WISH KUBO WOULD CHANGE THINGS UP:fpalm this is probably gonna be another boring fight when you see it.

.access timeco.
08-28-2008, 09:18 PM
At least all of this is making the Sexta Fracción look like the strongest Fracción around \o/... so, I am ok with all this losses.
I mean, suddenly Nakeem and Di Roy doesn't seem so weak anymore, at least they hadn't released yet.

balladbird
08-28-2008, 09:24 PM
Di-roy lived for, like, 3 panels of the invasion... I'm pretty sure he has the "weakest fraccion" category sealed up. ^_^

Clappers
08-28-2008, 09:37 PM
I guess it wouldn't have been so bad if he didn't divulge the weight of the wings. I mean Kira could have felled him if he had hit all wings multiple times, which would be not as ludicrously stupid. But then again, I'd rather he just got these fights over with and got back to Ulquiorra vs. Ichigo.

♥Mad,bad & sad♥
08-28-2008, 09:38 PM
http://www.shueisha.co.jp/magazine/boyc/jpg/w_jump0475_h.jpeg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7551/59069479ro7.jpg

Both terrible images. :hm

Arivama yelled he wouldn’t let Kira do whatever he’s planning then scratched his chest to draw blood. Suddenly another set of wings appeared on his back. He flew and used his left wing to hit Kira.

Ah, Abirama, you have redeemed this chapter for me. :)

Shinrin
08-28-2008, 09:42 PM
Rukia looks old in that cover...not saying the cover isnt nice but it looks like she has wrinkles on her face or something...


Or perhaps age is simply catching up to her;)

--------------------

Thx for the spoilers and summary.

Not the greatest sounding chapter, but with more spoilers it sounds better

chbimun
08-28-2008, 09:43 PM
At least all of this is making the Sexta Fracción look like the strongest Fracción around \o/... so, I am ok with all this losses.
I mean, suddenly Nakeem and Di Roy doesn't seem so weak anymore, at least they hadn't released yet.

I know! Hitsu, Ikkaku and Renji all had to release their bankai to defeat the released Sexta fraccion. These VC aren't breaking much of a sweat against Bara's fracs.

Arthas
08-28-2008, 09:50 PM
Man, I loved Kira's speech in this. While I don't agree with it entirely, I don't agree with the 11th division's battle loving either so I guess it comes out even.

Beyond that as far as favourite Zanpakutous goes: Senbonzakura all the way.

Akutabi
08-28-2008, 10:10 PM
Despite my negative attitude towards Ichigo, I actually would vote Zangetsu in this. Mainly because I hold out the hope that Ichigo will eventually pull off half-decent Karinzan-jutsu attacks by learning more about Zangetsu.

I know I'm not the only one who thinks Tensa Zangetsu's black blasts resemble Gamma's :hm

Lucia
08-28-2008, 10:20 PM
Annie, Spacecat, Zangetsu01, Danna, and yanniv, THANK YOU so much for the summary, spoilers, and scans.

I like BOTH the cover and the spread. The chapter looks interesting :)

A 'pick-your-favorite zanpakotou' poll :noes

Rukia looks old in that cover...not saying the cover isnt nice but it looks like she has wrinkles on her face or something...

Or perhaps age is simply catching up to her;)

I think it's just the way her face is colored :-_- ...Plus, it look like there's a light shining on the side of her face or something. It will probably look much better in high quality version.

imamess
08-28-2008, 10:20 PM
I see the zanpakuto poll results being fairly close to the pop poll results. Obviously, there will be differences with the non-shinigami characters not being eligible, but I wouldn't be surprised if the top 3 stay the same. Personally, I'd vote for Mayuri at this point, but I'd have to wait for Shuuhei's (then still probably vote for Mayuri's :-_-)

Weren't Grimm's fraccion the oldest? Their numbers were just after the espada, but seeing as the numbering system outside the espada isn't even mentioned by the fraccion anymore, I'm not sure if it's even relevant anymore.

Makes me wonder how strong Dondechakka and Peshe were before getting their masks taken off since Nel was the number 3.

emoloz
08-28-2008, 10:31 PM
Thanks for the spoilers all the cover and spread nothing interesting it seems >.>

Aizen Sousuke
08-28-2008, 10:46 PM
Weren't Grimm's fraccion the oldest? Their numbers were just after the espada, but seeing as the numbering system outside the espada isn't even mentioned by the fraccion anymore, I'm not sure if it's even relevant anymore.

They were around the oldest. 11-99 were given numbers based on the order they were born. This would make you assume that as time went on, the quality of fraccion generally went up as Aizen was able to recruit more Hollows and things of that nature. That being said, while the number does represent age, I think there could be a chance that the younger fraccion may have a chance at being stronger than the older fraccion.

At this point though, Kubo has totally dropped the idea of the Arrancar # other than the Espada since it is meaningless.

Also, Kubo has totally forgotten about the Hollow hole. Check out Findor, who still has an excuse for not having a hole, and then Coolhorn and Abirama. Nell and Szayel don't have holes either. I would say there could be a purpose to this, like Nell maybe filling her hole with love if she was the only one, but at this point there are just too many inconsistencies for me to assume that this isn't anything but carelessness.

.access timeco.
08-28-2008, 10:52 PM
Di-roy lived for, like, 3 panels of the invasion... I'm pretty sure he has the "weakest fraccion" category sealed up. ^_^

Man, after everything, I am pretty sure the same would have happened to Avirama and Cuuhlhourne if Kira and Yumichika had released as fast as Rukia did.
They just got luck that their enemies for one reason or another decided didn't released just after the fights began, or they would be defeated long before they could do anything :/


At first I was pretty angry how all the Sexta Fracción were killed, but now I am happy. As time goes by, the Números are becoming more and more fodder.
If Jalibell's Fracción wait too long to fight, I bet Ganjuu will be able take the 3 of them at the same time :D

But is still better than the anime, where Rukia and Ashido oneshoted Gillians and Adjuchas with sealed swords like they were just regulars Hollow.

H!Mandy
08-28-2008, 11:50 PM
thaaaaaanks for the spoilers :hug

oh, awesome cover =D Rukia looks beautiful to me *_*
Ichi too~

gawd, that color spread just proves it: Ichigo is NOT 15 years old. xO

I kinda wanna see this chapter, I'm liking Kira <3

ooh, fav zanpakutou!! that's sooo nice :yay

gottaloveanime
08-29-2008, 01:44 AM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7551/59069479ro7.jpg
Ichigo... are you ALRIGHT?! :confused: you look like you're on drugs or something
But I guess since it's promoting the movie, it's ok for Ichigo to look like that, haha.

The magazine cover looks good though. :p Pretty Rukia in the back and angsty concerned Ichigo. However Kubo should be more careful with Ichigo's neck. Seriously he's slowly turning into a giraffe.

Hmmm, Kira chapter, yay. Thanks everyone for sharing spoilers :glomp

gab00n
08-29-2008, 02:44 AM
I don't see why everyone is whining, Ichigo looks fine to me. He just looks more serious than usual, like he just became a complete Vizard and knows he can seriously whoop some ass.

Raf
08-29-2008, 03:24 AM
Second win with Shikai, I'm feeling good about seeing Hisagi's release :3

Zangetsu01
08-29-2008, 04:38 AM
Here is the RAW
http://www.mediafire.com/?l3ktm00ymzj
~Thanks to Agent007 (SleepyFans)~

Really no idea where the chapter's title is...

Look like there is some information on volume 35, and new musics for the anime ???

vaizado
08-29-2008, 04:56 AM
Here is the RAW
http://www.mediafire.com/?l3ktm00ymzj
~Thanks to Agent007 (SleepyFans)~

Really no idea where the chapter's title is...

Look like there is some information on volume 35, and new musics for the anime ???

The Aguila dude is red! Awesome! I was getting tired of all the white. Thanks posting it. :)

Zangetsu01
08-29-2008, 05:08 AM
US Scanlation is up too
http://mediafire.com/?h2hgj3xmdba
Thanks to Sleepy Fans

I'll add the Onemanga link as available ;)

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/323/01/

Shadoblak
08-29-2008, 05:17 AM
Soooo....another "silly arrancar now you're dead" chapter...woo
thanks for the spoilers!

Isaiah1989
08-29-2008, 05:18 AM
oh wow. Kira gets 439725623780449925672349856 cool points.

Jyuushiro
08-29-2008, 05:19 AM
323

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/323/01/


OM

Velius
08-29-2008, 05:33 AM
Thank for the spoilers everyone. I bet some days Kubo mentally kicks himself for making it take so long for normal characters to make any kind of power progression. Then we get powerups that consist of putting both hands on your sword and chapters like these were we don't get anything at all. It's good that Kubo realizes that is exactly the situation and won't drag it out. One chapter fights = good. Izuru looked cool and got cool lines, so it's all good. Another cool chapter.

zan2pacto
08-29-2008, 05:36 AM
c'mon you have to admit that the last frame is pretty badass. I mean hes going to decapitate that bird - that's a first for any real battle, and an appropriate use for a sword that makes its opponent "bow its head."

Otherwise bleach has been pretty crap-tastic for a few months now.

Loose Canon
08-29-2008, 05:37 AM
US Scanlation is up too
http://mediafire.com/?h2hgj3xmdba
Thanks to Sleepy Fans

I'll add the Onemanga link as available ;)

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/323/01/

Thanks Zangetsu01, as always! :hug I'd rep you again if I could (darned safety measures :/ )

Huh. Always wondered about that weird U-turn shape of Wabisuke -- how ruthlessly appropriate for a sword that makes its opponents go to their knees as if waiting for their execution. :wtf

Okay, then.... Next! *crosses fingers for Hisagi*

Velius
08-29-2008, 05:38 AM
Otherwise bleach has been pretty crap-tastic for a few months now.
People have been saying that for the last year now. :-_- And yet we see the same people saying it during this time, so it can't be all that bad.

Shadoblak
08-29-2008, 05:42 AM
No, its just hard to completely stop reading a manga you've been so invested in for years....You have to see how it ends...and you also keep hoping that it'll get better and return to it's former glory....Also this is a Bleach forum, so you may as well stop buy and bitch about the chapters...Right? :p

Shdo
08-29-2008, 05:47 AM
again i see the shinigami kill a enemy that was broken.
again i seen an arrancar losing by giving the shinigami the victory on a silver plate.

this starts to become boring.

Loose Canon
08-29-2008, 05:49 AM
It just occurred to me...

There still isn't a title for this chapter. So... now we're missing hollow holes AND chapter titles? Maybe this post should go in the "Where the hell are they?" thread... :ohh


Thanks, Jushiro, for the link :love

memnarch
08-29-2008, 05:53 AM
Exactly Shdo. I know once I start something, be it a manga, book or tv show, I have to see how it ends if I care at all about the characters.

Although I think we all saw the whole steel feathers/Wabisuke thing a mile away, it was still satisfying to see a harder side to Kira, who can sometimes come off as a bit of a wuss (I said SOMEtimes!). His whole explanation about war was epic. Also, it was cool to see some more kido, which we don't see nearly enough of in my opinion.

Now we're on to the Hisagi and Ikkaku fights! I'm not so sure that Ikkaku will win this time. I'm not basing that on any particular observation, I'm just thinking that it's about time for some good guys to start dying. And Hisagi's fight is sure to be good, as we'll finally get to see his zanpakuto.

Mad_Scientist
08-29-2008, 05:59 AM
Just read the chapter. I must say, I rather like the third division's philosphy, hehe. I can see a whole nest of new Gin theories spawning from this chapter now, though. :)

gab00n
08-29-2008, 06:26 AM
So Kira's zanpakutou is shaped the way it is for the purpose of cutting peoples heads off, that's totally bad ass.

NakeBenihime
08-29-2008, 06:33 AM
Wow, Kira can be ONE morose guy, can't he? Not to mention how he takes all the fun out of fighting, but what a breath-of-fresh-air is his attitude towards it? Bleach always has these guys who just love the hack-and-slash way of doing things because it's so "fun" to war with everyone.

It's like they're all too dumb to realize that war is HELL, and that's not a good thing. Avirama is your typical, cookie-cutter "I love to hack-and-slash" fighter who thinks battling is a game. He can't see the forest fore the trees, basically. Yay for Kira who finally tells him, and us, like it is, and is a fighter who simply wants to put an end to the chaos that is war... You go, guy!!! :glomp

Aizen Sousuke
08-29-2008, 06:37 AM
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/289/02-03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/323/02-03/

Any one have any idea what Kubo's fascination with this skull and Ichigo is?

balladbird
08-29-2008, 06:42 AM
I've just read the chapter, and while my complaint from earlier still stands strong I will say this much for it:

Thank you, Kira! It's about time SOMEONE realized that these weren't (supposedly) a bunch of exhibition matches, but, in fact, a WAR.

It's ridiculous how this battle starts with everyone standing in a gentlemanly fashion, waiting for one-on-one duels to pass, then couple this with the fact that some of the shinigami care more about foolish pride and saving face than they do keeping their life and defending their piller (*cough* yumichika *cough.*)

his response to the question "Is this how a warrior should fight?" was dead-on. They're not fighting for honor or pride. They're fighing to win, which means anything they do to secure that victory is correct. It's like Roy Mustang said in FMA: "In war, there's no such thing as a 'cheap shot'"

Loose Canon
08-29-2008, 06:43 AM
Just read the chapter. I must say, I rather like the third division's philosphy, hehe. I can see a whole nest of new Gin theories spawning from this chapter now, though. :)


*laughing* Let the wild imaginings begin! Gin isn't evil, he's fickle... Gin is actually a rampaging pacifist, devoted to staying with Aizen until he's shown his old taichou the error of his ways... Gin's secretly working for the King of SS, and has been since he was a child (the slaying of his fellow Shinigami at that time was merely a ruse to gain Aizen's trust -- the dead guy got better :smug).

Or, it could be that Third Division and Gin were simply a bad fit. ;)


On another note, did Kira activate his Shikai without calling its name, or did I miss it? I thought the ability to silently achieve Shikai was indicative that that Shinigami had reached the level of Bankai. At least, that was what Byakuya hinted at in chapter 140, "Bite At The Moon", IIRC.

NakeBenihime
08-29-2008, 06:43 AM
@Aizen Sousuke: ^I guess he's saying just that, "both life and death reside within me." Kubo says in interviews that he's been fascinated with the delicate balance between life and death ever since he was a small child. Even then, he waxed philosophical beyond his years...

soulcandy
08-29-2008, 06:55 AM
Just read the new chapter...Kira was pretty badass in this one (in a very erm, gloomy way)
I did like his speech about war though--even though it was rather, well, obvious. War+chaos=both sides are not having a great day.

Still, good chapter...I loved the explanation of the Third Division's philosophy, but I feel it can be applied to Gin without having to assume he might be good (even though that's a theory I wish would happen because it'd be fun >.>). Bringing an end to the war by making enemies bow their head, as Kira said, can also be done by backstabbing/being damn sneaky (Urahara anyone?), and Gin could end up being harmful yet at the same time useful for both sides...for the sake of ending the war.

But eh, late night theories usually turn to senseless ramble...so I end here.

Aalicia
08-29-2008, 07:51 AM
Any one have any idea what Kubo's fascination with this skull and Ichigo is?

Death and Strawberry, anyone?...

spacecat
08-29-2008, 08:13 AM
Yeah the colour page I like less seeing larger :lmao Just not my thing I spose >.>
Some nice panels... well specifically the last page where Kira has the sword around his neck. I'm pretty sure in 2 weeks I will have forgotten this chapter though xD

furato
08-29-2008, 08:38 AM
For one, I like seeing Kira decapitating people with Wabisuke. Not because I'm an S -_- But because it would be a waste not to, as the zanpakutou's design was specifically for that ability. I mean, if you give your character a head-chopping device, there's got to be some head-chopping. Of course, he couldn't have done it to Hinamori or Rangiku, so poor fraccion gets the cut instead.

I wonder if Kira gets into arguments with the 11th division often... wait, when Renji was in 11th division, maybe they had arguments on that that leads to sparring sessions with Hinamori scolding the two of them? *imagination wanders*

La`Punyeta
08-29-2008, 08:45 AM
Kira turns out to be a head-hunter.. :lmao I always wondered why Wabisuke is shaped like that...and it was to cut the head of his enemies...and it was awesomeeee !!!

LOL @ the color of avirama...I thought at 1st he was black and white..but RED?! :lmao

WatanukiXXX
08-29-2008, 09:13 AM
Thanks Zangetsu01 for the sleepyfan scans

There was some thinking involved here. First with the new hadou and then with running into buildings and using the poles as shields. Although one wonders why Kira doesn’t just levitate/fly like the other Shinigami? :learn

The blood thing, probably a hint at Avirama’s Aztec connection
I can tolerate Avirama losing, but that little speech made this chapter annoying :hm

What pretentious drivel. I was smirking and slapping myself silly at Kubo’s little spiel :notrust. How does one take Kira’s philosophy seriously when the so-called ‘war’ has been set-up as a dance competition with opposing members strutting their stuff? Not too mention the plotkai shield that protects all the good guys :-_-

This isn’t a war. It’s a Shinigami catwalk where they strut one after another, show off their moves and finish off helpless Arrancar (helpless because the author gives them no chance in hell of winning) to be crowned Kings and Queens of Badass :facepalm

Now, all of a sudden Kira goes “war is serious bznss!!” and we’re supposed to swallow that :scared ? Arghh

I’d like to see some of this sorrow and gloom, darkness and despair among the Shinigami :hmph Oh, wait, there is no reason for any darkness and despair because there are no casualties. Not even permanent injuries. To all intents and purposes for the Shinigami this is just a game.

A pity that the only side that knows exactly the reality of war as per Kira’s notions are the Arrancar. He should just switch sides, that way he can go all emo with some justification :cookie

spacecat
08-29-2008, 09:22 AM
Someone asked me to read the raw to see if it said anything about Volume 35.
Volume 35 will be released on the 4th of the 10th. The cover goes to "the mad scientist" Mayuri Kurotsuchi.

smach
08-29-2008, 09:25 AM
Hmm...I wonder if Kira had to use any force to decapitate the odd-looking bird, or whether its head came off cleanly due to the neck's weight being doubled. :headscratch

schwegburt
08-29-2008, 10:02 AM
Abirama's fate was pretty much sealed when we found out about the release, but still this actually was surprisingly interesting for a chapter.

I liked Kira's philosophy on war and battles, it's a real nice counterpoint (and the utter truth) to the "I love battle" nonsense coming out of so many of the other characters mouths. It's refreshing to see him cut through that crud. It's kind of funny. The Privaron Espada of all the Arrancar seemed to have grasped the real nature of war. Cirucchi and Dordonni got it at least.

@ smacharia8 - Lol I was wondering the same. He's still got hierro so it could take a little sawing action to get through . . . hmmm that's a little too gruesome.

Rain
08-29-2008, 11:57 AM
better chapter than i expected

Im not pleased with how easily the fraccion are being written off, but thats not important I guess :D

Kira was pretty cool this chapter, I love how he describes war, and the fact that he is merciless

if only Kubo would make the villains like that:noes

as for the color spread, *ignores the Ichigo* Abirama looks cool:wha

spacecat
08-29-2008, 12:21 PM
Kira was pretty cool this chapter, I love how he describes war, and the fact that he is merciless

if only Kubo would make the villains like that:noes

Yeah exactly >.>

I liked the red of the feathers anyway, I didn't expect them to be that colour but it was nice.

Soranushi
08-29-2008, 12:32 PM
Well this was a pretty awesome chapter, better than I expected....man for some reason I think not getting spoilers early anymore helps with it as well. Anyway I think Kira was pretty cool with his Darkness, and Despair speech concluding with Abirama's decapitation:D.

Color pages were cool, and just like space&rain Abirama's red color was an interesting color for him since I was expecting something else:cool:. The Ichigo page was nice, in that, it looked like a painting:che....I'm makin me an ava out of him:p.

zan2pacto
08-29-2008, 01:04 PM
People have been saying that for the last year now. :-_- And yet we see the same people saying it during this time, so it can't be all that bad.

I think its like the saying in Office Space.

Every day keeps getting worse, so every day of my life is the worst day of my life. - just apply that to the manga.

Also, I loved tbtp and the fighting arc. and I dont care that people did things like grabbed their sword with 2 hands for a powerup, I thought it was all massively cool.

gigantor21
08-29-2008, 01:35 PM
LOL I'll have to disagree with you this time, Wata. I thought the chapter was great.

The color pages. Kira's adaptability. The environment's prominent role. Kira stepping on Abirama's childish view of battle. The use of Wabisuke as a guillotine. The chapter feeling whole, thanks to the great pacing. It's been a while since Kubo did so many things right in one chapter.

Yes, the speech was tacky. But I see it as a ray of hope. Kubo may be foreshadowing that the War won't be treated like a runthrough of Street Fighter anymore. And to be honest, I got used to the speeches being corny as shit years ago--they haven't moved me since Volume 11 or so. Plus it's not like this is the only shonen series you see it in. :p

This is my favorite post-Gaiden chapter so far.

(Sora, I stopped reading spoilers a few weeks ago, and I'm glad I did. It really helps.)

Soranushi
08-29-2008, 02:03 PM
Yeah Gigantor21 I'm gonna stop reading the spoilers from now on, and honestly, its no fun when you know whats gonna happen before you even read the chap. And I think I'll start enjoying Bleach as much as I did last year when I just read it 'cause it was fun to read:che.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/289/02-03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/323/02-03/

Any one have any idea what Kubo's fascination with this skull and Ichigo is?

I didn't see this earlier, anyway, I also wonder what this could possibly mean for Ichigo. Who knows maybe Kubo is hinting at some new mask for Ichigo(powerup:p) thats coming soon in his Fight with Ulquiorra.

Darkcountessb
08-29-2008, 03:30 PM
A power up is likely since we all know poor Ulqui's going to be defeated. :cry

This chapter was ok, I liked Abirama's color scheme. He sort of reminded me of Vincent from Ergo Proxy with that color scheme. Still, I like his design, he deffinately has an Aztec eagle look. I'm kind of getting tired of these fights tho. They're nice and all but can I see some Shinigami get defeated since we know no one's going to die during this war...not even Aizen.

Inevitable.Exit
08-29-2008, 03:39 PM
KT..is letting me down again.

LET THE SHINIGAMI LOSE ONCE IN THE ENTIRE MANGA PLEASE. I DO NOT CARE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I KNOW WHO IS GOING TO WIN.

Seriously, Yumichika wins with a broken Shikai and a convenient release by Coolhorn.

Kira wins in an obvious way with an enemy who got immediately retarded and stopped using a strat that works for him.

Hisagi will be fighting that guy then be like Oh...I lied...I AM THE LEVEL OF A CAPTAIN HISAGIBANKAIWHICHSLAYSTHEESPADAINTWOFRAMES.

Ikkaku will be all like "Oh well. I hate you guy. It cant be helped. BANKAICURBSTOMP".

Then Ichigo will be like "OMGPOWERUPRESOLVEILOVEYOUORIHIMEYOUAREMYNAKAMARAWR RR GETSUGA TENSHOU SPAM".

I'm sure the 1-3 espada will be dumbed down or conveniently go against a counter from the shinigami.

Bleach's art is beautiful but seriously...make me not know who is going to win. PLEASE.

The Cool
08-29-2008, 03:47 PM
Maaaaan WHATEVER! I thought this chapter was great. Had enough action to keep me going and ended well in my opinion. I mean be real...Kira isn't going to die...and if he does it wont be here. It will probably be from the hands of Gin. He better cut that birds head off and not be a b*tch about it. I hate punk good guys. KT did well this week :D

Just can't please some people. :cool:

jelome1989
08-29-2008, 04:01 PM
I don't mind missing these "ants/dragons" whatever fight
I just hope the reason for this is Kubo's just buying some (if he still did not have enough) time to prepare for the grand finale.

im ok with this "crap" (no offense i hope) as long as the main event be good enough to
compensate it

lookingback7
08-29-2008, 06:49 PM
Frankly this is a really well done chapter. If it had been a stand alone everyone would be happy. It was action packed yet had an interesting dose of philosophy, it let us know a little more about a character that everyone has been wondering about and the art was superb as always. It major problem is, as many other people have stated, there's no suspense. We all know who's going to win. On the other hand, everyone would freak out if KT killed one of these VCs - so wadda ya want him to do?

It's true though, some shinigami need to lose once in a while.

Eloni
08-29-2008, 07:10 PM
This chapter was as good as it can get when it's about a character you're not interested in... does that make sense?
So yeah, it was an okay chapter for me, since I don't really care about Kira. But finally, some merciless beheading!:nuts
:XD
I was surpised that Kira could be like this, too.

I hope next chapter will be about Shuuhei, I'm going nuts here waiting for his effing shikai.DX

Kastro187420
08-29-2008, 07:22 PM
I think Shuuhei will be saved for last, for the simple fact that he's the one we know least about, so the anticipation will be built up. I think Ikkaku will be the next one up.

This is an interesting chapter though. Its nice to get a little background on Kira's Zanpakuto and why it is how it is since all Zanpakuto seem to be a reflection of a users personality.

DarkPulsar
08-29-2008, 07:41 PM
I am hoping for my sanity's sake that we just skip Ikkaku this time around and move onto Shuuhei. We've already seen pretty much all it appears Ikkaku has to offer, and I love him, but I don't want to see the same predictable stuff again. Let's get to Shuuhei and see something new, so we can be done with these filler chapters and see some progression.

emoloz
08-29-2008, 09:13 PM
Glad to see Kras back but the fights a bit lame. thanks for the stuff guys.

thewizardninja
08-29-2008, 11:12 PM
Stop complaining about how the Shinigami are kicking ass. You seem to forget that these fraccion are weaklings that are just there to be defeated so we can see how these 4 have improved since we last saw them. The real fight hasn't even begun...

CeriaHalcyon
08-29-2008, 11:16 PM
OMG what a cool chapter, it was longer and had colored pages :heehee

I'm glad i didnt see the spoilers,

-sama
08-30-2008, 12:40 AM
For an undercard fight/give Kubo more time for ideas chapter, it was rather well done. Hopefully the next 2 bouts go as quickly. We want to get back to the good shit, the main event of Captains vs top 3 Espadas.

Aalicia
08-30-2008, 12:48 AM
This is my favorite post-Gaiden chapter so far.

And me thinking you'd get heartbroken with Avirama's decapitation...

hinamori_momo
08-30-2008, 12:55 AM
OMG, i luved that chapter, even though it was a bit disappointing because of the lack of action XO but i liked it and those phrases kira says

gigantor21
08-30-2008, 01:15 AM
And me thinking you'd get heartbroken with Avirama's decapitation...

LOL nah, not really. I knew straight off he was on the short list for death watch, so it wasn't all that jarring, really. I'm just glad he got such a good chapter before he went. ;)

memnarch
08-30-2008, 02:32 AM
Stop complaining about how the Shinigami are kicking ass. You seem to forget that these fraccion are weaklings that are just there to be defeated so we can see how these 4 have improved since we last saw them. The real fight hasn't even begun...

Exactly. It's Barragan's fault for thinking his underlings are actually good. Senile old man...clearly he has forgotten what happens when you mess with warriors. :komamura

Allow me to demonstrate what does happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlEYCQHA4sg

Shadoblak
08-30-2008, 02:36 AM
Yeah! Who do you guys think you are hoping for interesting chapters where good writing and unexpected twists make for exciting reading!

hottfroggy
08-30-2008, 02:50 AM
This was a great chapter!! :wtf

Now only two fights to go until the UlquiIchi showdown!! :lala

Go Team Ichi!! :yay

:XD

Inevitable.Exit
08-30-2008, 03:22 AM
Yeah! Who do you guys think you are hoping for interesting chapters where good writing and unexpected twists make for exciting reading!Exactly.

I think it is funny that the same people who are like "OMGOSH STOP COMPLAINING IT WAS AN AWESOME CHAPTER KIRA IS THE PWNZRS" are the same people who are going to be like OMG ICHIGOKUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN when he gets another Nakama-fueled power-up. KT's writing in suspense is lacking. He is good for some quote worthy philosophy every once in a while, but other than that meh. Sorry I'd like to actually be able to get into this manga. I'm just waiting to see how Aizen gets nurfed into a loss.

Aizen Sousuke
08-30-2008, 03:54 AM
I don't think Barragan's thought process should be questioned. If his fraccion are Adjuchas, then they would have originally been Vice-Captain level. Becoming hybrids should have put them way beyond the level of normal Vice-Captains, but alas, it seems like this is not the case.

Aalicia
08-30-2008, 04:24 AM
I don't think Barragan's thought process should be questioned. If his fraccion are Adjuchas, then they would have originally been Vice-Captain level. Becoming hybrids should have put them way beyond the level of normal Vice-Captains, but alas, it seems like this is not the case.

This wierd image of Hisagi, Ikkaku, Kira and Yumichika on top of the 4 pillars, singing "Too sexy for your Adjuchas" at Barragan suddenly popped inside my head...

... yeah, I should really stop hijacking, I know... >.>'

bradc
08-30-2008, 04:42 AM
I don't think Barragan's thought process should be questioned. If his fraccion are Adjuchas, then they would have originally been Vice-Captain level. Becoming hybrids should have put them way beyond the level of normal Vice-Captains, but alas, it seems like this is not the case.

(Throws Szayel Aporro's Rising Phoenix at you) :glomp

The hybirds of high birds are definitely in the question, but it reaches the point where Szayel Aporro's return much more epic than it may seem. Fraccions are basically vice-captains and/or lieutenants; they are pretty much the same as Shinigami but everything is reflected released (white, relfect colours) where Shinigami are inverted release (black, absorbs colour). :devil


ETA: Aizen Sousuke didn't lie about the Hybirds (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/175/09/) either :p

spacecat
08-30-2008, 09:52 AM
Yeah! Who do you guys think you are hoping for interesting chapters where good writing and unexpected twists make for exciting reading!
lol Yeah xD

AS: your'e still using Hitsu speech logic? You should know better than that :p

DarkPulsar
08-30-2008, 10:01 AM
Indeed, there is no logic, only plotkai.

Shdo
08-30-2008, 10:13 AM
in both those fights the shinigami were given their victory on a golden plate.

first yumichka who would never use his true power unless no one see it and his enemy happend to have a power that make everything unseen...BRAVO TK! what an intresting twist!...not.

and kira fight...the enemy fire feathers on him, those feathers are heavy and making them more heavy will only make them more deadly.
so what happens next? instead of making something intresting or showing something new, the bird man just decide to charge in for no good reason and get plotkaid.

let me guess, the one who fight ikkaku have a powerful ability that mask reitsu and thus allow ikkaku to release his bankai, and findor will have awsome ability and hisagi will somehow have the power to beat it because its just happens that his shikai is just PERFECT against this specific release.

the only way to make this half decent is to either allow one friccon to win or have the 5th friccon (the saber tooth theory thing) come in and kick every one of the elite ass.

CeriaHalcyon
08-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Does anyone know why no one has posted an english translation to this week's bleach?

I can't find it on mangashare, i found it to read on onemanga but no one has it for DL, :cry

Tanequil
08-30-2008, 01:39 PM
For me, the only part that was remotely interesting was the short Kira speech. It was... different. KT's no longer spouting the "Nakama Will Save The World If Only We Believe" stuff, and starting to get a tad realistic. Now, if he would only go the distance and start with the plot proper again, that would be nice. I wanna see what Aizen has up his sleeve again... Never thought I'd be saying this, but the fights are getting boring. Wanna see more. :)

CeriaHalcyon - Bleach Exile has it available for download on their site...

spacecat
08-30-2008, 01:40 PM
Haven't seen it yet, lots of scanlators only seem to do it if they were gonna be the first :cookie Can't you download the sleepy fans somehwere? I'm sure Bink will have it done at some point.

CeriaHalcyon
08-30-2008, 01:54 PM
Thanks everyone, for some strange reason i was shocked cause mangashare didnt have it yesterday :wha

gigantor21
08-30-2008, 02:33 PM
Yeah! Who do you guys think you are hoping for interesting chapters where good writing and unexpected twists make for exciting reading!

LOL I fully agree with this--and Shdo's comment on victories being given on a silver plate. While I feel that Kubo did a much, much better job here than he did with Yumichika, that didn't make the fight any less of a giveaway. But like Ceria, my hope is that Kira's speech and subsequent decapitation belies a less whimsical approach to the fights. Shuuhei dying would be especially subversive to Kubo's current MO.

I actually posted on that before, but it was at the bottom of the page and most everyone missed it. :-_-

Aalicia
08-30-2008, 05:16 PM
Shuuhei dying would be especially subversive to Kubo's current MO.

I actually posted on that before, but it was at the bottom of the page and most everyone missed it. :-_-

It might have been a good thing. If too many females see you wishing the 69 dead, and it ends up happening in the manga, they might all just gang up and lynch you over being the bringer of bad karma...

Well, truth be said, the biggest plot twists in Bleach were never fight related, but rather Aizen related, so I guess people will get something they didn't see coming, sooner or later.

jinxie
08-30-2008, 06:57 PM
Kira turns out to be a head-hunter.. :lmao I always wondered why Wabisuke is shaped like that...and it was to cut the head of his enemies...and it was awesomeeee !!!

LOL @ the color of avirama...I thought at 1st he was black and white..but RED?! :lmao

I loved the revelation of Wabisuke's hook-shaped purpose in the last page. Kira's zanpaktou is vicious!

I know, I saw the colour panels with Abirama Redder and him being red just made me :lmao! The Renji references just keep going... next thing I know there is a sliced pineapple next to Abirama's decapitated head. Please, Kubo-sensei? ;)

I enjoyed this chapter; more Kira panel time is great and I liked his speech on the beliefs of the 3rd Division.

♥Mad,bad & sad♥
08-30-2008, 10:02 PM
the only way to make this half decent is to either allow one friccon to win or have the 5th friccon (the saber tooth theory thing) come in and kick every one of the elite ass.


Sounds like a good idea to me.:wha That must be the reason Barragan hasn't sent in his 5th frac. :heehee Kubo is going to suprise us and redeem the other fracs by having Sabertooth kick elite ass (that takes a load off my mind). :amuse

Shdo
08-30-2008, 10:13 PM
assuming the sabertooth isnt a major plothole and TK forgot he made him.

♥Mad,bad & sad♥
08-30-2008, 10:36 PM
assuming the sabertooth isnt a major plothole and TK forgot he made him.

I'm sure Kubo would never make a totally avoidable mistake? Right? :cookie

gigantor21
08-30-2008, 11:02 PM
I'm sure Kubo would never make a totally avoidable mistake? Right? :cookie

You mean like the "20 Brothers" from Volume 23? Some of whom were neither Espada nor Fraccion, and never got an explanation or another appearance? Come now. :XD

♥Mad,bad & sad♥
08-30-2008, 11:18 PM
You mean like the "20 Brothers" from Volume 23? Some of whom were neither Espada nor Fraccion, and never got an explanation or another appearance? Come now. :XD

Your absolutley right gigantor21. :) Kubo could easily avoid avoidable (mouthful :lmao) mistakes, but he doesn't. :confused:

Aalicia
08-31-2008, 01:34 AM
You mean like the "20 Brothers" from Volume 23? Some of whom were neither Espada nor Fraccion, and never got an explanation or another appearance? Come now. :XD

That's not exactly a mistake. If Aizen would have said 20 brothers and we ended up having something like a total of 10 arrancars in the whole of HM, that would be a mistake. Given there are even more than 20, in between espadas, privaron espadas and fraccions, not to mention whatever else roams the land that we don't yet know about, it's just an unrevealed guest list, meaning we know he had a gathering with 20 individuals, most likely arrancars, but we don't know who was present and who wasn't.

If Sabertooth ends up being Coolhorn's early design, then it's a mistake alright.

memnarch
08-31-2008, 02:12 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Aizen had some forces in reserve that are stronger than the Espada, i.e. more Vasto Lorde and/or the Vaizard.

I think he has counted on the numbers being about even and has some more people to call on at least. That might explain the whole 20 brothers thing. Or Kubo may have just intended the whole 20 brothers thing to freak us out and not for Aizen to mean it like Hitsugaya meant his earlier statement about Vasto Lorde.

vaizado
08-31-2008, 02:18 AM
Sooo, did Kubo to name the chapter?

Velius
08-31-2008, 02:38 AM
Sooo, did Kubo to name the chapter?
He will fix it later I'm sure, once a good thousand people let him know he forgot. :lmao Probably once it's released in the volume. He isn't perfect, he' gonna mess up. Really guys, lets not be so critical of something you can't even come close to doing.

Bleach is like your favorite baseball team. You stick with it during the rough times and enjoy the good times. People who go to the games to boo the home team are not wanted. :hm

Shadoblak
08-31-2008, 02:43 AM
lets not be so critical of something you can't even come close to doing.

Well now I wouldnt say that....

Velius
08-31-2008, 03:01 AM
Well now I wouldnt say that....
Yea, cause people who can get a popular series in WSJ are a dime a dozen.

Shadoblak
08-31-2008, 03:01 AM
with some of the writing it sometimes makes me wonder dude :p

gab00n
08-31-2008, 03:04 AM
Well now I wouldnt say that....

Really, please show us some of your work. :) These small fights will most likely be done in 3-4 chapters, then I am sure Ichigo will pop up. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Ulquiorra is really capable of, it should be awesome.

Miyona
08-31-2008, 03:06 AM
You guys really need to stop defending these chapters...I mean bad is bad right?

They arent saying the whole manga is bad...just these last few chapters.

Velius
08-31-2008, 03:09 AM
You guys really need to stop defending these chapters...I mean bad is bad right?

They arent saying the whole manga is bad...just these last few chapters.
Read one page back please. That is exactly what they are saying. Not even on topic about the chapter.

Shadoblak
08-31-2008, 03:15 AM
No, it's not exactly what I'm saying at least.....If it was a bad manga, nobody would give a crap...but it's a good manga with AWFUL uneventful predictable chapters.. I'm not trying to bash Kubo or anything, but you can't honestly tell me the structure and writing of more recent chapters is expert...

stark espada
08-31-2008, 03:20 AM
You guys really need to stop defending these chapters...I mean bad is bad right?

They arent saying the whole manga is bad...just these last few chapters.

Miyo since the captains showed up in HM the story has been going down hill up tell then it was omg what is going to happen then its just been death after death after death :-_-

Now issue 315 was a diamond in the rough so to say with the all the bad issues I thought OMG there going to destroy the shinigami finally some vengeance. But instead we get what seems at this point to be two defeats and the kira's win made no bloody since I mean how come none of the debre hit him or he did not fall or did not get hit at all it made no since I mean he could have at least made it look like he got wounded I mean at least the coolhorn battle someone broke an arm before there plotkai win.

This issue has been about the penicale of terrible issues in my opinion. I really hope it goes up hill I mean this issue to me makes me think it hit the bottom of the mountain. This issue could have easily been a turn around epically at the end
since we knew basically nothing about Hawkman. Who is to say he could not lift the weight and was just tricking him into a false sine of security and flapped his feathers to hit him or shoot a feather upward to attack kira. That could have easily been a win for the arrancar right there more then any thing. He really does not seem like the type who would cower from what we saw.

I mean think of it like this Aizen needs all the warriors he can right now its like 28 to 13 I mean the bad guys are very outnumbered and that is not how a manga should be unless he is ending it right now wasting three arcs with Aizens plot :fpalm Kira and the other 4 (other then maybe hisg who is gonna do something with that vizard who's name i forget) have no true more meaning to the plot I mean most of them have shown all the ability's they can do I mean ikkaku has gonna banki and shown what it does so he has no more true point so this would have been perfect time to get rid of some hero's to help the odds

Velius
08-31-2008, 03:24 AM
Insert baseball analogy here. If you don't like, the rest of us really don't want to hear it. There have been plenty of people who have had not a problem with the recent chapters and I'm one of them. Anymore more of it will be deleted.

Shadoblak
08-31-2008, 03:27 AM
So because some people like it, it means it's a good chapter? I can understand deleting flaming and even off topic posts...But if someone expresses their passing distaste for the chapter I don't think that should be deleted....

GreenBlack
08-31-2008, 03:30 AM
I like Kira's poetic theory- it makes sort of sense. BUT I WON'T SAY I LIKE KIRA. |: Just his philosophy! XD Nice to know a little more about Squad three though.

Aalicia
08-31-2008, 04:05 AM
So because some people like it, it means it's a good chapter?

Because some people don't like it, it doesn't mean it's a bad chapter neither, aye.

If KT doesn't kill VC's, people complain, if KT would kill VC's, people would also complain. KT set up the matches so that VCs could show off their shikais in all glory, people complain. If KT would make matches be decided by amount of power alone, people would also complain. Bottom line, there will be people complaining, no matter what KT does. As there will be people enjoying whatever KT does.

I'm not even a Kira fan, but if I were, I would have enjoyed this chapter even more, given KT made him shine in it. The heroes are supposed to shine. And it's not like the arrancar are shown as weaklings, in terms of raw power alone, all of them are shown to be massive, if this was a punch fight, the VCs would probably be rendered mash potatoe. But it's not a punch fight, it's Bleach. And Bleach says that if your opponent is stronger than you, you can have an ability that turns the table. And if you don't, your strength of will into victory will close the gap in power. And if it doesn't, your friends will come to help you. This is Bleach. Or at least, it's how I've seen it so far, and a big part of whatever made me enjoy it so much.

wakeskater
08-31-2008, 03:52 PM
Im sure we will see some people die before the end, but it will be epic and tragic and plot provoking, remember this is shounen so not alot of good guys will die. (just a note for the ppl about that)

I wasnt made a Kira FAN persay by this chapter, but I definitely like him more, he is solemn and intelligent, doesnt like to fight, and doesnt have alot of power, but he does what he has to to keep the peace and fight for justice.

vaizado
08-31-2008, 07:59 PM
He will fix it later I'm sure, once a good thousand people let him know he forgot. :lmao Probably once it's released in the volume. He isn't perfect, he' gonna mess up. Really guys, lets not be so critical of something you can't even come close to doing.


Wha..?

I wasnt being "critical", I was just asking 'cause I didnt know if the chapter had a name or not. Not like that was Kubo's fault to begin with, his editor or publisher should've caught on that so Im guessing the nameless chapter was on purpose.

Velius
08-31-2008, 08:01 PM
Wasn't talking about you viazado. I probably should have split that up or something. :XD