Post-Future Arc

[scooz]

I've just been thinking lately about some of the possible plots Reborn can follow, assuming it will continue after they find a way to fix the future and return home. One that would be interesting would be a power struggle with the Yakuza. Let's face it, Tsuna is Italian (Sicilian if this is traditional) mafia, and a strong Italian mafia base in Japan might stir up trouble with the Yakuza, who are one of the biggest criminal organizations in the world last time I checked. So far, a lot of the battles have been internal struggles within the Italian mafia, but there has been very little conflict with outside crime organizations, except for one reference about the Yakuza made ages ago.

Another thing I have been wondering about is what if there is someone above Tsuna in the mafia world? Yes, he is the head of the biggest and most powerful family, but he may not be the Boss of all Bosses ::Clicks on Wikipedia and finds mafia terminology::

Traditional terminology

1. Capo di Tutti Capi (the "Boss of All Bosses", namely Matteo Messina Denaro for the Sicilian Mafia and Renato Gagliano for the Sacra Corona Unita)
2. Capo di Capi Re (a title of respect given to a senior or retired member, equivalent to being a member emeritus, literally, "King Boss of Bosses")
3. Capo Crimine ("Crime Boss", known as a Don - the head of a crime family)
4. Capo Bastone ("Club Head", known as the "Underboss" is second in command to the Capo Crimine)
5. Consigliere (an advisor)
6. Caporegime ("Regime head", a captain who commands a "crew" of around ten Sgarriste or "soldiers")
7. Sgarrista or Soldato ("Soldier", made members of the Mafia who serve primarily as foot soldiers)
8. Picciotto ("Little man", a low ranking member who serves as an "enforcer")
9. Giovane D'Onore (an associate member, usually someone not of Italian ancestry)

Now with the way they explain this title, Tsuna could easily be considered the Boss of all Bosses, but let's face it, manga authors love taking something from real life and turning it into something more symbolic and powerful, so it might mean something different in the Reborn world. Kinda like the King of the Soul Society that we have not seen yet, there might be a Don who rules over all the mafia that we have not met. I am not sure if there is any ceremony Tsuna will have to go through in order to accept his place as Head of the Vongola family, but I imagine if there was a Top Don, he would have to be accepted by him too, no? Just tossing ideas around.

I also think we are overdue for another visit to Mafia Land XD

Anyway, if the concept behind the Arcobaleno infants and their curses are not fully explained in this arc, then of course, we would expected it to be explained...eventually...right? We don't know too much about them or the circumstances surrounding their curses. We have learned much more in this current arc about the Arcobaleno, but we do not have the full picture yet, so that is a prospective conflict for future plots.

Anyone else have any thoughts? I always enjoy hearing others' ideas.

[Sixkiller]

I think there should be an arc where the 9th dies and Tsuna has to go to Italy to accept his position as the 10th. Then after that arc they skip some time (like 2-5 years) and show an older more mature Tsuna running the Vongola Family. I think it would open up the plot to new story lines and the like.

[scooz]

Yea, but I would put money on Tsuna having, at the very least, one more trial before becoming the Vongola Tenth. Yes, he defeated Xanxus and the First has accepted him, but it's never JUST that easy for poor Tsuna, lol.

[Sixkiller]

Indeed, the third trial could be meeting the Capo di Tutti Capi after the 9th dies. This could lead to some Yakuza take over of the Vongola Mansion which gets it destroyed. Thus we leap ahead 2-5 years when the mansion is rebuilt and Tsuna and his family are liing there comfortably until...

[scooz]

"until..." huh? lol. I would like to see some rivalry outside of the Italian mafia. There is the Yakuza, the Triad society of China, the Russian mafia, gangsters in America...there was the Irish mob, but I'm not sure how big they still are...I wonder if there is a world-wide Organized Crime convention where all these mafiosos, thugs, gangsters, and mobsters get together like the mafia does at Mafia Land...my wouldn't that be a spectacle.

[Sixkiller]

I can just imagine the Irish Mafioso having an Arcobaleno that looked like a Leprechaun, lol.

I wonder if there is a world-wide Organized Crime convention where all these mafiosos, thugs, gangsters, and mobsters get together like the mafia does at Mafia Land...my wouldn't that be a spectacle.
Of course there is. It's called a gang war. :D

[rayne_himura]

I can just imagine the Irish Mafioso having an Arcobaleno that looked like a Leprechaun, lol.

scary :ohh

these are great ideas you got guys.. im having fun reading them xD

[Sixkiller]

I'm kind of curious how much farther they can go with their abilities. Any thoughts?

[krompt]

Consider this,
After this Future arc is done, we rewind to the present for a short mini arc the rewind to the Past. In the past maybe they can explain all the arcobaleno as being the greatest hitman then exactly how they became babies and what is the entire deal. Tsuna and co. end up there chasing evil arcobaleno who wants to go back in time and change hist past using a reverse 10 year bazooka. Jumping through time sounds better than Tsuna fighting other mafias, then fighting the Italian army, then the UN, then aliens and keep going :hm

[rayne_himura]

i agree with krompt on that one.
going through the past will made us understand everything, not just with the arcobalenos. i wanna see the past Vongola bosses, how they were chosen to be the next boss or whatever. hehe it'll be boring yeah, but it'll be fun to find out.

the origin of the Vongola family yeah :yell lol

[scooz]

Consider this,
After this Future arc is done, we rewind to the present for a short mini arc the rewind to the Past. In the past maybe they can explain all the arcobaleno as being the greatest hitman then exactly how they became babies and what is the entire deal. Tsuna and co. end up there chasing evil arcobaleno who wants to go back in time and change hist past using a reverse 10 year bazooka. Jumping through time sounds better than Tsuna fighting other mafias, then fighting the Italian army, then the UN, then aliens and keep going :hm

I'm not talking about him taking on the world, but if we are going to be realistic, with how big the Yakuza are, I do not think they would enjoy another major crime organization setting up a major base on their home turf. Anyway, a reverse 10 year bazooka? If that were to happen, then it probably be the green arcobaleno...I think his name is Verde or something, who would be said "evil arcobaleno". He's the scientist one who helped create the boxes, so if any of them were to create a reverse bazooka, it would most likely be him.

@Sixkiller Gang war? I was thinking along the lines of something more peaceful, kinda like what the UN does, but I guess that might be the only way they can associate with each other XD

@rayne Yes, I want to see the origins of the Vongola family too. I wonder how the First decided to create the family even though he is someone like Tsuna. I've read that most mafia families are not the gangsters they are portrayed as. The mafia seems to have been created to be like a force outside of the law that takes care of a certain town or area. I suppose that is why the family was started, but then there were bosses like the Second, who were corrupt and that's where the sins of the Vongola family begin.

[krompt]

Yeah, I just don't want them to keep going, power level after power level, I already saw DBZ once this lifetime, never again :fu

I'd like to see them go back in time and each character learn about their past, like Goku learning about his father and stuff or maybe even Lambo learning about the rise and decline of the Bovino Family :zomg

[rayne_himura]

scooz: most probably the family was created in Italy... since the Vongola's main headquarter's in Italy. yeah mafias have been stereotyped as "gangsters"... they've been labeled the "bad guys" by society. what i want to know is, why the Vongola was created.. whats their purpose? is it to protect the people in it? for money? to rival other mafia families? O_o well the Vongola isnt perfect, they have corrupt former bosses... they've killed and slain people.. (Tsuna saw it himself on ep 87).

krompt: hahaha it can get boring when all they do is beat the hell out of each other xD yes yes yes.. history of other families such as Bovino and Chavallone families :wha

[Sixkiller]

@Sixkiller Gang war? I was thinking along the lines of something more peaceful, kinda like what the UN does

Is that not the same thing? :lmao

[rayne_himura]

it doesnt have to involve gang wars Six xD

[Sixkiller]

Well yeah but it's more fun that way. Plus the image of Vladimir Putin and Colin Powell having a knife fight is amusing to me.
Back on Topic: I think the Past Arc idea thing is to copy paste of the Future Arc we have now.

[rayne_himura]

well the future arc might answer some of our questions about the mafia, vongola, arcobalenos etc.. but what I wanted to see was how Vongola bosses were chosen..but i dont think the recent arc will go on and explain how it was done. too much fighting can quite get boring you know xD

[Janet8059]

Well, in case of Tsuna, if you remember, Reborn explains there were another candidates for the position of Vongola X, but since they were killed, it was Tsuna's turn...

About the Vongola Family Creation and Purpose, maybe everything started like a way to try to protect themselves from enemies, so they installed theyselves on some part of Italy; there, they began to grown in number if they promise to protect the people of there in exchange of their help... that could be a way if you think it...

And why Italy? if you ask me, maybe the majority of characters doesn't look like they should (where will you find a japanese with platinum hair?? - sorry Ryohei, nothing against you... -) but well the way Primo looked doesn't fix with japanese anatomy... or even if you want to keep pshysical atributes out, just paying attention to the name of first Vongola Boss... "Primo" means "#1" in italian I think... so, that could be enough reason to believe, along with this characteristics that he was italian... (Duh to myself XD!!!)

[rayne_himura]

nice theory you got there janet :3
uhm are you sure you meant ryohei or gokudera since they both has platinum hair xD and goku came from Italy and not Kyouko's brother xD

[scooz]

Yeah, I just don't want them to keep going, power level after power level, I already saw DBZ once this lifetime, never again :fu

I'd like to see them go back in time and each character learn about their past, like Goku learning about his father and stuff or maybe even Lambo learning about the rise and decline of the Bovino Family :zomg

No no no no no! lol. Trust me, I don't want this show to be like DBZ either, hahahaha, I am just thinking of ideas for future conflicts. The only time we usually see flashbacks in mangas and animes is during a big battle, so if we don't get all the answers during this future arc, then I have to assume there will be another big challenge waiting for Tsuna & co., which is why i am tossing around ideas.

Very few authors simply sit down for an entire arc and reveal all the deep dark secrets of the past only (recent Bleach excluded *Thank you Kubo*), there is always a battle in progress during which time a flashback is triggered (much like Gamma's) and THEN we get to see into the past. Besides, Tsuna doesn't necessarily have to "power" or "level" up in order to battle new enemies, he might simply need a new strategy or a new ally. The power can stay the same, but experience from different battles with enemies using different styles of combat is always good for a mafia boss.

I am curious about Lambo's family too. They have been mentioned in passing, but very little is known of them, and they are the ones who possessed the 10 year bazooka. Why the hell would they entrust it to a 5 y/o child like Lambo? And what is the significance of their family crest and Lambo's horns? These are questions I would like to see answered as well.

[Janet8059]

LOL!! No, I'm sure about taking Ryohei like example... X3

The reason why japanesses puts all kind of color to the characters is 'cause like the big eyes, they take example from occidental people... and as you know, there's all kind of colors when the sun is on the hair of someone!! XD So, I think that's why you can say a 3/4 italian can have strange color hair, or Mukuro, who has blue hair for example too... oo

And Ryohei is japanese, isn't he?? so, that's why I think is kind of weird seeing a japanesse like that!! XD

I'm agree with the fact that not only power is necessary... you know, the principal advantage Varia had against Tsuna and the others when the ring battles, wasn't the lack of power, but experience and maturity... You know everyone who saw Tsuna, they say he was just like Primo, with his same power and bla bla bla... I think the reason why he was killed it was because of his own mistake, 'cause even if he had powerful, you know above all things, he still had his warm heart and that could betrayed him against Millefore...

My theory about your question about Bovino's family emblem, is that maybe it was a family who raised cows before they could have enough money to call themselves like members of mafia... you know, in ancient times, the emblem of the family was atribuited to the family ocuppation... and I think horns are pretty enough to identify them...

About the bazooka... well... a genius can came from anywhere... maybe they had that only luck shot to had someone so intelligent to be able to create something like that, and that gave enough credit to the Bovino Family to be recognized as one inside Mafia (a lame one, but family enough to be known even for someone so great as Reborn...)

And the reason why Lambo has the 10-years-BAzooka...? Well, everybody knows Lambo, everybody knows what kind of kid he is... so I wouldn't be surprised if he only discovered it and took it without permission (by not saying he stole it!! XDDDDD)... and the reason why he could keep it when his family find out?? Well, just imagine the proud and joy when his leader found out his child was with the next Vongola leader... enough reason to let him keep something like that, I think!! XD