View Full Version : Reborn Target 197 spoilers and discussion
spacecat
06-11-2008, 11:24 AM
BA english scanlation:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NX9T2AM6
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sswyzh
You can read online:
http://www.onemanga.com/Katekyo_Hitman_Reborn/197/
or
http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/index.php?image=Hitman%20Reborn/Katekyou_Hitman_Reborn_v20/Hitman%20Reborn%20c197_BA/01.jpg&server=nas.html
Many large pics:
http://i25.tinypic.com/nlaknb.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2zrgebb.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/kamj4h.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/257qi69.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2jeahlh.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2gvs9wi.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/a3jzb8.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2qk4img.jpg
Quick Translation:
When Uni returns from speaking with Byakuran her appearance has changed/ her actions become weird.
Gamma: I can see it in her eyes, the princess is no longer there!
Byakuran! What have you done with Uni!
Bya: Hmm I wonder what it was?
Gamma attacks Byakuran but Uni protects him.
At the time of signing Gamma gives the box to Uni as he does not wish to use it on behalf of the Millefiore.
The scene changes/flashback ends and Genkishi (Phantom Knight) appears before Yamamoto.
Gamma recognises Genkishi as the greatest swordsman of that era.
ユニはびゃくらんと話してから様子がおかしくなった
γ(この目…ここには姫はいない!)
「白蘭!ユニ様に何をした!」
びゃ「さーて何だったかな?」
γびゃくらんを攻撃するがユニがかばう
調印の時間に、ミルフィオーレのために使うつもりはないとガンマがボックスをユニに預けて回想 終了
場面かわり山本の前に元気氏が現れるところまで
γいわく元気氏はこの時代最強の剣士
Other script:
ごめん次号の
ジェッソのアジトに着くユニ、γ、他の護衛の人
中に入っていくと白蘭が前を横切る
白「ん?えーと誰だっけ?って知るわけないか見るのも会うのも初めてだもんね ユニちゃん
てっきり赤んぼうがくるかと 思ったよりずっとチャーミングだね」
ユニ「あなたは思ったより…普通だわ」
白「よくいわれる おっととりまきの皆さんはジッリョネロが誇るマーレリングの守護者の皆さん だ
いいな~本当に羨ましいよ 今日は何人か欠席してるみたいだけど」
γ「霧の守護者は何者かの策略によりヴァリアーの剣士にやられたがな」
白「へえ
確か7^3の一画であるそのマーレリングを守るのが君の一族の使命なんだよねユニちゃん
っと立ち話もなんだからゆっくり話そうか……できればボス同士水入らずで」
γ「貴様そんなことが!!」
ユニ「いいわ」
γ「姫!!」
ユニ「私の目を見て 無謀にみえる?」
γ“まさか姫にはすでに白蘭との話し合いの結果が見えているのか…?”
笑顔でいってきますと言うユニ
ユニ「ありがとうγ 私あなたのこと…(耳元でこしょこしょ)」
優しそうな表情で見送るγ「小娘め」
ユニ白蘭と話に行く。暫くして出てくる
ユニ「我々ジッリョネロファミリーとジェッソファミリーは合併します 合併後の母体はジェッソ としボスは白 蘭さまに…」
γ「姫!!何を言ってるんだ!!」
ユニ「気安く触れるな 合併の後私はナンバー2となる 触れてよいのは白蘭さまだけだ」
γ“この目… ここには姫は…いない!!”
γ「白蘭!!!ユニ様に何をした!!!」
白蘭「さーて 何だったかな?」
γ「貴様ァァ!」
かばうユニ「白蘭さまに手をあげるのならば私を殺してからにしなさい」
γ「姫!
うおおおお!白蘭んん!」
少し時間がたつ
γ「調印の時間だ その前に姫…こいつを返す これはジッリョネロファミリーのためにとあんたの 母 さんから もらった匣だ
ミルフィオーレのために使うつもりはない また再びジッリョネロのために使うときが来るまで預 かっていても らいたい」
ユニ無反応
γ「時は必ずくると信じている」
回想終わり
Translation of the new script by Ann-chan:
Uni arrives at the Gesso Hideout, guarded by Gamma and some other people.
Gamma: We've reached the Gesso Hideout.
Gamma: Princess, is it really okay?
Uni:Yes.
old guy: We've been expecting you.
I'll guide you to the guest room on the 10th floor.
Guy: fu~ I've overeaten again.
2 plates was too much.
Uni: You're Byakuran, right?
When they enter, they come across Byakuran.
Bya: hm? uhhhhhh Who was it again? Like I could know, we've never seen or met each other before Uni-chan. I thought there might be a baby coming, but you're far more charming than I'd imagined.
Uni: You're more.... ordinary than I'd imagined.
Bya: Nicely said. Your escorts are the Wielders of the Mare Rings you Giglio Nero are so boastful of. How nice~ I'm so jealous. Though we seem to be missing someone today.
Gamma: The Mist Wielder was defeated by the Varia's Swordsman, according to someone's trap.
Bya: hmm~ Surely protecting that Mare Ring, one of & 7^3's pieces, was an order from your family, right, Uni-chan?
But standing while talking makes it hard to talk... If we could see each other in private....
Gamma: You bastard, that's...!!
Uni: Okay.
Gamma: Princess!!
Uni: Look into my eyes. Do you see any recklessness?
Gamma's thoughts: Could it be that Princess already knows the outcome of the meeting with Byakuran...?
Uni announces her leave with a smile.
Uni: Thank you Gamma. About you, I.... [She whispers something]
Gamma sees her off with a gentle face. "Little lady"
Gamma and the rest of the staff come together in the hallway.
Gamma: What's up?
Other Guy: Uni-sama's blood pressure and pulse didn't have any abnormalities.
Gamma: Great, keep going.
Old Guy: But Uni-sama sure is a wonderous child.
It feels like she's been a family member since forever.
Because she looks just like the previous two bosses.
That smiling face shows her heart.
Guy: Yeah, our only remaining light.
Gamma: Don't say stupid things, you bunch of lolicons.
Old Guy: Wha?!
Guy: Like you're not the most suspicious one here!!
Gamma: I've been in an unrequited love since her predecessor.
Gamma's thoughts: and to me, that girl is too dazzling...
Uni comes out of the room after some time.
Byakuran: Bye, Uni-chan.
Guy: You're alright!!
Old Guy: I'm so relieved.
Uni: We Giglio Nero Family and the Gesso Family are merging. After the merge, the parent body will be the Gesso Family and the Boss will be Byakuran-sama...
Gamma: Princess!! What are you saying!!
Uni: Don't touch me so easily. After the merge I will be Number 2. Only Byakuran-sama can touch me.
Gamma's thoughts: "these eyes.... Princess... isn't there!!"
Gamma: Byakuran!! What did you do to Uni-sama!!
Byakuran: hmmm I wonder what?
Gamma: Bastaaaard!
Uni protects Byakuran.
Uni: If you want to lay a finger on Byakuran-sama, you'll have to kill me first.
Gamma: Princess!!
Guy: D-Don't!!
Old Guy: Stop it Gamma!!
Gamma: Hime! Uuuooooooo! Byakurannnn!!
Some time later.
Gamma: It's time for the signing of the deal. But before that, Hime.... I want to return this.
It's a box I recieved from your mother for the sake of the Giglio Nero Family. I don't intend to use it for the Millefiore.
Until a time when I can use it for the Giglio Nero Family's sake comes around again, I want you to hold onto it.
Uni gives no reaction.
Gamma: I believe that time will definately come.
Gamma: Phantom Knight...He's the Giglio Nero family's biggest traitor. I'll admit that he's this time period's
Greatest Swordsman.
Yama: this guy!!
juunana
06-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Hmmm I wonder what Byakuran did =/ sounds pretty cool <3 Thanks space <3
FireCandy
06-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Hmmm I wonder what Byakuran did =/
Maybe hypnotized her? Nah, I don't care because Yamamoto is back! *fangirl*
The scene changes and Yamamoto appears.
Gamma recognises him as the greatest swordsman of that era.
Waaaahh.. Yamamoto :lala
Thanks for the spoilers!
And yeah what did Byakuran do with Uni? O.o
Gol D. Roger
06-11-2008, 01:42 PM
Sounds to me like maybe Byakuran found a way to take the old Gironello boss's soul out of Uni's body. Or something. :confused:
spacecat
06-11-2008, 01:43 PM
Yeah, thanks to Yan I figured out who it meant by 元気氏 Genkishi...aka Phantom Knight. So I edited the translation.
I didn't know it was his name :lmao
Griffith
06-11-2008, 04:26 PM
looks like a decent ch. Byakuran :wtf
Ann-chan
06-11-2008, 04:58 PM
LOL space that Genkishi/Phantom Knight is spelled wrongly in the script XD so no wonder you didn't get it then >__>; it's supposed to be 幻騎士.....
but how is the Phantom Knight the greatest :hm Squalo is supposed to be the greatest :yell xD
and Byakuran :yell It's nice to see him again but I knew Uni couldn't have gotten loyal like to him on her own after all he caused :hm Gamma is so going to join up with the Vongola now to save his precious princess from the spell that changed her :fu
Mystic Serenade
06-11-2008, 05:06 PM
It's simple Byakuran is a loli hunter, he made Uni into a woman and rocked her world
Anyhow, looks like Gamma might not die after all :lmao
hazel
06-11-2008, 06:21 PM
omg, that would sure happen in hentai dj if Reborn has any /doubt, too little women/. but no, don't, i don't want to think of that even if it was my first bet :XD
sure Gamma wouldn't die, nobody died so far in Reborn, and the first victim wouldn't be Gokudera's.
Griffith
06-11-2008, 06:56 PM
LOL space that Genkishi/Phantom Knight is spelled wrongly in the script XD so no wonder you didn't get it then >__>; it's supposed to be 幻騎士.....
but how is the Phantom Knight the greatest :hm Squalo is supposed to be the greatest :yell xD
and Byakuran :yell It's nice to see him again but I knew Uni couldn't have gotten loyal like to him on her own after all he caused :hm Gamma is so going to join up with the Vongola now to save his precious princess from the spell that changed her :fu
How do we know Byakuran's amazing Charisma is not what changed uni :fu
stark espada
06-11-2008, 07:06 PM
Hm with Yamamoto being back it sounds like a plot device to stop the ongoing battle if you ask me? (Because they know gamma should win this one plotkai die :hm)
But any who maybe one of Byakuran has some kind of mind wiping or altering power?
Ann-chan
06-11-2008, 07:39 PM
Griff seriously give it up :p you're being a desperate fanboy here :lmao ByakuranxUni is not canon XD she was so obviously brainwashed, just admit it xD she wanted to stop Byakuran you know :p
Griffith
06-11-2008, 08:29 PM
Ann Chan you are in denial, just like you were with the sky Pacifier :lmao
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Grimmjow_01/reborn/014uniLOLZ.gif?t=1213216282
Added spoiler tag. -yan
hazel
06-11-2008, 11:01 PM
Griffith got brainwashed along with Uni
marie
06-12-2008, 02:31 AM
It's simple Byakuran is a loli hunter, he made Uni into a woman and rocked her world
:lmao
Sounds interesting. :3
spacecat
06-12-2008, 06:32 AM
lol poor Gamma, what has become of his princess :scared
And Mystic I can see that, half the bad guys from Shounen series seem to be loli hunters :lmao
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 09:43 AM
yeh omg what have you done to the princess Griff D: Gamma will come and kill you for this :lmao
spacecat
06-12-2008, 09:56 AM
lol I was like didn't I post that...then realised I posted it in the secret bullets thread :lmao what am I on xD
I added some parts of script to the front post but I am not sure if it's real since the guy said he would post pics and hasn't.
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 10:38 AM
yeh I dunno about the script either lol I finished translating it and most of it seems okay. Is just one part that was like.... this can't be real lol but the rest seemed believable at least xD but I dunno really no pics yet so no confirmation and is kinda different from previous spoiler too. Phantom Knight not mentioned here.... but the part with the signing and when Uni came back was in so I am confused xD
spacecat
06-12-2008, 10:43 AM
Ah nah just got confirmation from the usual spoiler guy that it's real xD
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 10:58 AM
lol k, I will post the translation then :>
Uni arrives at the Gesso Hideout, guarded by Gamma and some other people.
When they enter, Byakuran makes his way towards them.
Bya: hm? uhhhhhh Who was it again? Like I could know, we've never seen or met each other before, Uni-chan. I thought there might be a baby coming, but you're far more charming than I'd imagined.
Uni: You're more.... ordinary than I'd imagined.
Bya: Nicely said. Your escorts are the Wielders of the Mare Rings you Giglio Nero are so boastful of. How nice~ I'm so jealous. Though we seem to be missing someone today.
Gamma: The Mist Wielder was defeated by the Varia's swordsman, according to someone's trap.
Bya: hmm~ Surely protecting that Mare Ring, one of 7^3's pieces, was an order from your family, right, Uni-chan?
But standing while talking makes it hard to talk... If we could see each other in private....
Gamma: You bastard, that's...!!
Uni: Okay.
Gamma: Princess!!
Uni: Look into my eyes. Do you see any recklessness?
Gamma's thoughts: Could it be that Princess already knows the outcome of the meeting with Byakuran...?
Uni announces her leave with a smile.
Uni: Thank you Gamma. About you, I.... [She whispers something]
Gamma sees her off with a gentle face. "Little lady"
Uni goes to talk with Byakuran. She comes out after a little while.
Uni: We Giglio Nero Family and the Gesso Family are merging. After the merge, the parent body will be the Gesso Family and the Boss will be Byakuran-sama...
Gamma: Princess!! What are you saying!!
Uni: Don't touch me so easily. After the merge I will be Number 2. Only Byakuran-sama can touch me.
Gamma's thoughts: "these eyes.... Princess... isn't there!!"
Gamma: Byakuran!! What did you do to Uni-sama!!
Byakuran: hmmm I wonder what?
Gamma: Bastaaaard!
Uni protects Byakuran.
Uni: If you want to lay a finger on Byakuran-sama, you'll have to kill me first.
Gamma: Hime! Uuuooooooo! Byakurannnn!!
Some time later.
Gamma: It's time for the signing of the deal. But before that, Hime.... I want to return this.
It's a box I recieved from your mother for the sake of the Giglio Nero Family. I don't intend to use it for the Millefiore.
Until a time when I can use it for the Giglio Nero Family's sake comes around again, I want you to hold onto it.
Uni gives no reaction.
Gamma: I believe that time will definately come.
spacecat
06-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Thanks Ann chan..and yes that time will definitely come :fu
FireCandy
06-12-2008, 12:37 PM
Thank you, Ann-chan! :glomp
Only Byakuran-sama can touch me.
No love for Gamma :lmao
yanniv
06-12-2008, 02:08 PM
Many large pics:
http://i25.tinypic.com/nlaknb.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2zrgebb.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/kamj4h.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/257qi69.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2jeahlh.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2gvs9wi.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/a3jzb8.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2qk4img.jpg
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 02:15 PM
OMG THE FIRST PIC. EPIC. with that said, I will proceed to viewing the rest xD
and turns out even the part I thought was fishy is real xD Uni too cute ahahaha she loves Gamma XD cos that's what she's going to say heheheh you can't really translate it the way it's supposed to be but the way she starts so definately implies she wants to say I love you ahahaha too cute, too cute XD
Gamma is so definately the daddy :hm
and uh. yeh. Byakuran. the hair.... *nosebleeds*
spacecat
06-12-2008, 02:17 PM
Gamma looks cool, I get a real father/daughter vibe :lmao
How cute, the foxes sleeping on the grass :lmao
Also, that Yama panel is awesome xD
juunana
06-12-2008, 02:21 PM
Ahhh first pic so cute xD The fox with butterfly awwws. But Omg why did byakuran cut his hair its so nice longer @__@.
Thanks yan <3
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 02:25 PM
gah I want to see Yama's fight now! :> looks like it's going to be epic <3 and let's hope he will get Phantom Knight on the good side too so Gamma and Phantom Knight can go and save their Princess :lmao but maybe Phantom Knight was brainwashed too? D:
thanks for the pics Yan, can't wait for the raw <3
FireCandy
06-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the pics Yanniv!
Gamma & Uni look really cute together :wtf
I don't like Byakuran's hair. Reminds me of Jiraya from Naruto :cookie
Have no fear, Yamamoto is here! :fu
What's about Lal, though?
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 03:51 PM
I added a translation of the rest of the script as I read it from the scans. I don't know if it's complete now though? seems a bit sudden to go from the flashback straight to Yama like that so I think there's still some pages in between there?
added the rest of the trans on the front page.
spacecat
06-12-2008, 03:56 PM
Thanka Ann.
Uni tells Gamma he's her dad :fu
Kolbertt
06-12-2008, 04:17 PM
Yama brought up the fangirl in me :wtf - He looks simply too wonderful in that last pic
Uni tells Gamma he's her dad
There soooo many wrong things with that sentence :XD
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 04:20 PM
^if you see things wrong in that sentence you are mistaken :hm because Gamma just is Uni's daddy :fu
my favourite part:
Gamma: Don't say stupid things, you bunch of lolicons.
Old Guy: Wha?!
Guy: Like you're not the most suspicious one here!!
Gamma: I've been in an unrequited love since her predecessor.
YES :yell so cute <3 and Uni is telling Gamma that he's her one true love :yell I already explained why I think so in one of my previous posts :lmao
spacecat
06-12-2008, 04:42 PM
Holy baloney I never read that part Ann xDDDDDDD
Ok maybe he is her daddy but it's more like...who's your daddy? :fu
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 04:47 PM
yeh it's the best part in there, I swear xD I laughed SO hard when I saw it cos it's what we've been saying for weeks now :lmao
ok now it is getting wrong space looooool incest! Baaaaaad Gamma~! and first the mother, then the daughter~ what a soap opera this is turning out to be xD
spacecat
06-12-2008, 05:03 PM
Don't hate the playa :cookie
Ann-chan
06-12-2008, 05:40 PM
who says I'm hating, I just want him to pick and one and stick to it xD preferably the mother lol I like Uni and Gamma's father-daughter relationship xD
though in current day, she's all grown up.... so even if she were to return to normal maybe he wouldn't like her anymore cos she's not a loli anymore lol
hazel
06-12-2008, 05:41 PM
ok, never mind Gamma business, go Yamamoto!
/does anyone also get the impression this PKnight's shoes makes him look weird? like the Puss in Boots or something, it's not healthy even for women/
Griffith
06-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Byakuran so beautiful :wtf
Mystic Serenade
06-12-2008, 07:20 PM
Things are turning out pretty good.
In the end, it will be Gamma's pool stick that will reign supreme over Byakuran
Griffith
06-12-2008, 07:41 PM
Gamma aint touching byakuran, he is getting beat by Hibari and now Hayato. That is a clear sign that he he will be doing nothing :cookie
I doubt he could touch Shou :hm
Ann-chan
06-13-2008, 06:54 AM
I agree with Mystic, the poolcue of death will win over everyone :lmao
but I do agree with Griff in that Byakuran is beautiful <3 but Gamma WILL be doing things to Shou :hm what kind of things is still a secret xD
hazel
06-13-2008, 10:30 AM
in the extreme end it may be so Uni predicted everything and gave Gamma this box back just to test Vongola's resolution.
i assume Uni's not happy with Bya /i know, who can be not happy with Bya, Griffith, stupid girl/ and predicts that the merge is about to be destroyed /she gives him this box back to fight for his family's sake, not for the whole thing like it was before/.
did she herself discovered/obtained/learned something that would make her family strong enough, or she seeks an alliance with the Vongola?
if so, didn't she warned her family not to kill the Vongola because she had not chance to do so, because she wanetd the confrontation to check their powers or she still isn't sure if Tsuna would defead Bya so doesn't want to team up with uncertain winner and lose her safe position?
it doesn't make sense, unless Uni knows Amano's style /that nobody would die/ and had a look at some spoliers.
eddieson
06-13-2008, 01:10 PM
Raw is out by Negi_FH.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5G534CWK
http://rapidshare.com/files/122112574/Katekyo_197.zip
spacecat
06-13-2008, 01:45 PM
English speedscan by us XD Hope you like it :3 Thanks to everyone who helped.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NX9T2AM6
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sswyzh
You can read online here. (http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/index.php?image=Hitman%20Reborn/Katekyou_Hitman_Reborn_v20/Hitman%20Reborn%20c197_BA/01.jpg&server=nas.html)
Kolbertt
06-13-2008, 04:16 PM
Who would have said the Pedophile lines were true after all :zomg -
And now, let's pray for the Yama/PK fight being short and action packed a la Varia arc
Tyki Mikk
06-13-2008, 05:05 PM
Wow. All I can say is this chapter was awesome...........
Need to backtrack to figure out why stuff happened now. This history is really helping what is currently happening in the future arc.
Thank you for the release.
Ann-chan
06-13-2008, 05:08 PM
wah space nice scanslation <3 Great work space, juu and danna =D I can't wait till next week's fight between Yama and Phantom Knight >D
Griffith
06-13-2008, 05:27 PM
Great work guys, hopefully these BA speed scans will bring more people to the reborn section here :wtf
spacecat
06-13-2008, 05:29 PM
Yeah I hope they bring more people, the current members also need to post more :hm
stark espada
06-13-2008, 05:46 PM
Ok I read this weeks issues and here are me thoughts on it
byakuran is really sporting that sweater vest :XD
I really think he is using hypnitizum I really do. He even made uni go as far as to be a human shield WTF
Oh and genkishi looks like they took genkishi right out of claymore with the haircut and the way gen looks
4 blades wonder if they do a zolo from one piece and let genkishi use all of them at once :lmao
Ann-chan
06-13-2008, 05:49 PM
the current members also need to post more :hm
wait, first I am a Dutch spammer and now I need to post more? :p
but yeh, I hope new members come cos of the speedscans =D it would be fun to get more people posting often <3
@Stark: It would be cool if Phantom Knight used the 4 swords at the same time like Zoro lol
juunana
06-13-2008, 05:53 PM
Lol stark yeh he does look claymore like...I actually thought it was a girl until today.........orz. I dont know what but I am interested to find out what Byakuran can do even more now....maybe he is just good with the ladies lawl. Thanks to ann,danna and space for help with the scan. <3
stark espada
06-13-2008, 05:53 PM
Ann-Probably gonna have one in the mouth two of them would not be surprised if they connect to one another for like the right hand and then one single blad for the other.
More posters would be good but it probably end up being more spammers more rather then straight up posters :lmao
juuna-I when I saw (gonna go with it :XD) still looks like a female to me even though it was said to be a he :lmao
Obviously the true power he has is the power of the sweeter vest :lmao but yeah I really wanna know what he can do as well now more then I did earlier.
Griffith
06-13-2008, 05:55 PM
i think phantom is just going to use his mist abilities to make yama think he is using those 4 swords.
Lots of possibles with the mist abilities and 4 swords.
But this matchup favors yama, since he was studying the squalo tapes and squalo beat phantom.
spacecat
06-13-2008, 05:56 PM
Ann, you are one of the only members I wasn't referring to there :p
Stark :lmao claymore, he so does xD
Ann-chan
06-13-2008, 06:00 PM
nah I know space xD I know I spam lol but I love reborn too much not to xD but people need to get out of the yaoi FC and into the target discussions :hm the yaoi FC is the only one who almost needs a v2 lol
stark espada
06-13-2008, 06:01 PM
Be even funnier is if this phantom knight uses its mist ability to make himself look like this
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/dark_angel_044/claymore/Alicia1.jpg
Thanks for doing the manga every one who did
Griff I think your right on that mark unless the phantom knight is just like 100x stronger now but still plot wise yama is going to win
spacecat
06-13-2008, 06:08 PM
lol stark xD
Phantom Knight has probably had some help from Byakuran to become stronger or whatever, he got beat by Squalo before as we saw in the flashback but now Gamma says he is the greatest swordsman around. Something changed and his loyalty to Byakuran appears to be a clue to me as to what. Meh I dunno :p I think no matter what Yama will pwn him.
stark espada
06-13-2008, 06:11 PM
Phantom knight probably sold them out in order to get stronger byakuran probably struck a deal for a deal kind of thing with him. But would that also indicate that byakuran can just get a power up out of no were to any one or did he send the phantom knight to some special training?
spacecat
06-13-2008, 06:12 PM
Well he is obviously the most powerful around so maybe, there are many possibilities there :3
juunana
06-13-2008, 06:16 PM
Loool stark u crack me up xD
Yeh Id say the phantom wont go down so easy but I kinda hope squalo shows up lol.
Yeh I wonder if some people even read reborn or just yaoi fangirl it...no offense to anyone but at least do both xD
stark espada
06-13-2008, 06:20 PM
space-Which is why I really wanna know what he can do maybe if were lucky the phantom knight will give some clue as to what happens.
That is good juunana xG
Eh probably more yaoi lovers of the people rather then readers if the yaoi fanclub almost being at V2 compared to the other FC for reborn, if it indicates any thing :lmao
Ann-chan
06-13-2008, 06:24 PM
if Squalo shows I'd die xD but it's never going to happen ahahaha
but yeh, I think it's hard to say how Phantom Knight is supposed to be stronger than Squalo/Yamamoto now.... Squalo also trained (those vids were from the future too xD) so I wonder how Phantom Knight managed to get stronger..... though I really think he got brainwashed by Byakuran too somehow :hm
I need to reread the part where Gamma got drunk cos Phantom Knight was there too then and something happened I think.... but I haven't had a chance to read my copy of Reborn v20 properly yet, I just flipped through to see if that part was in lol
spacecat
06-13-2008, 06:25 PM
Yes reborn yaoi seems crazy popular :lmao
And yeah Stark he may give a few things away, I'd suspect a few more when he is defeated. It seems to be how these things work :cookie
Ann: it was just when he gave him the box I think.
Ann-chan
06-13-2008, 06:27 PM
ah ok then, if it was just the ring it was nothing bad xD I loved seeing Gamma punch Tazaru again though lol his punch looks so cool but lame at the same time XDDDDDD
and we all know why the reborn yaoi is popular :heehee
spacecat
06-13-2008, 06:30 PM
lol I love that chapter xD Gamma looks so hardcore :lmao I'm pretty sure it was just him giving the box from Uni.
I felt so sorry for gamma this chapter, especially because of the title page...I hope in the end he gets his princess back :lmao
stark espada
06-13-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm think I will literally fall out of my chair if Yamamoto The phantom knight in like two or three issues having the phantom knight no stronger just gamma thinking he is strongest :lmao I unistaly would not be surprised if it happened I would just be laughing like crazy.
I think its popular cause most of reborn is males rather then females.
Same here I wanted to see gamma just smack the hell out of MR.sweeter vest :lmao
FireCandy
06-13-2008, 07:05 PM
@spacecat - x-posted this chapter to LJ khr community. With a credit :fu
Yamamoto will pwn Phantom Knight. If Squalo was able to do that, he can do it even faster! :yell
And Gamma and his 'friends' - bunch of lolicons - nicely said :lmao
Lal is okay. I'm glad :love
Someone said that Gamma, Squalo and Gokudera need to have some sort of competition to see who is the most fanatically devoted to his boss. Don't you agree with that?
spacecat
06-13-2008, 07:31 PM
Yeah they all wanna sleep with their boss no matter who they are :lmao It is the way of the mafia :cookie
FireCandy
06-13-2008, 07:37 PM
I can see yaoi explanation here :fu
stark espada
06-13-2008, 07:38 PM
FireC-I think that would be a really hard one though squalo I think would come in as good a place as gamma and gokudera Those are the two that need that competition it would be such a hard one to judge :lmao
Well maybe but what if phantom Knight has gotten outrageously strong now?
spacecat
06-13-2008, 07:46 PM
Meh he will probably be tough to beat but Yama trained with Reborn and watched Squalo's tapes so it's like he trained with both. It doesn't get much better than that ;)
stark espada
06-13-2008, 07:53 PM
True I'm interested to see how this one is going to turn out and I still want to see the phantom knight use all the blades at the same time :lmao
FireCandy
06-13-2008, 09:08 PM
If it's true that he's the same level as Gamma, he's still dead. Btw - (since Yamamoto is said to be a born killer) I wonder - will he kill Genkishi or just leave him powerless?
Griffith
06-13-2008, 09:45 PM
Maybe Genkishi would have learned something after his defeat to squalo :cookie
eddieson
06-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Nice scan guys. I'm so happy that Yamamoto is about to fight.
stark espada
06-13-2008, 10:14 PM
Would not suprise me for a moment if Genkishi learned some new tricks
Kolbertt
06-13-2008, 11:42 PM
Ok - I may get some hate by this kidna wacko theory...
Last week, we were told that the Phantom Knight lost against a certain Swordman. To whom, we were not even hinted, all we were told is that it was because of a deal with the Gesso -
Now, this week, Uni attends the Byakuyan meeting with only 4 guards. Assuming she herself holds the Sky ring, that would only net us 5 Mare rings in total. - And this is where the crack begins...
What if the Swordman PK lost against, was not Squalo, but Future Yamamoto?! The Mare Mist holder lost against Squalo, and that way, we'd have the 4 Mare guards, Uni, the Phantom Knight, and the already defeated Mare Mist. Giving us the 7 Mare rings of the time ;p
Byukuya would know of the Phantom Knight defeat, and that's why he wouldn't mention it. Instead, asking about the missing Mare Mist.
Yah, this can be easily refuted if someone pin-points the PK being Mare Mist holder exact panel/line (Which I've missed so far) - But this would indeed set up some hot stuff between Yama and the Phantom Knight -p
knives13
06-13-2008, 11:51 PM
great scan guys :)
Ann-chan
06-14-2008, 07:55 AM
@Kollbert: I don't get your theory's foundation at all xD why wouldn't Phantom Knight be the Mist Wielder and who else is it supposed to be then >__>; on the last page of this week's chapter he is clearly surrounded by something misty you know :p
spacecat
06-14-2008, 08:05 AM
Didn't Gamma say to Byakuran that he lost to the Varia? So I guess he meant Squalo.
Scan one manga link:
http://www.onemanga.com/Katekyo_Hitman_Reborn/197/
Ann-chan
06-14-2008, 08:41 AM
yeh space I thought he meant that at first too, but I think he means the Mist Wielder isn't Phantom Knight, so that the one who lost to the Varia wasn't Phantom Knight but someone else ^^; and that the one Phantom Knight had been slashed by was Yamamoto. though it was confusing to read lol I dunno if I got it right xD
and still, it was rather clear that Phantom Knight was the one who went on the "mission" and that the mission was to take out the Varia's Swordsman. Gamma also said it was according to someone's plan, someone being Byakuran. Byakuran ordered them to defeat the Varia's Swordsman, PK went, got defeated, case closed, no Yamamoto involved :p
lol toooooo long explanation xD
yey for being on One Manga again =D
spacecat
06-14-2008, 08:48 AM
It had to be phantom knight, he isn't at the meeting and he was the one who went to fight a swordsman, and we know he is in Gamma's family cos he is their biggest "traitor."
Ann-chan
06-14-2008, 09:07 AM
yep I can't see it not being him at all :T and he did betray the family.
I also noticed in re-reading v20 that Ginger Bread is actually Black Spell too xD and we still haven't actually seen him cos the first was a doll~ I don't think he was in the Giglio Nero before though, guess he joined later ^^;
bah I can't wait till next week's fight <3 It's gonna be goood haha looking forward to some good old sword fighting <3
spacecat
06-14-2008, 09:13 AM
For once at least I'm going for the shounen good guy who will most likely win :lmao
Ann-chan
06-14-2008, 10:53 AM
yeh :lmao can't go wrong with Yama, he always wins xD Unlike Gokudera, who always seems to lose =____=; but maybe Yama will finally lose to even it out :p
spacecat
06-14-2008, 10:57 AM
Nah I think he will win or at least do as much damage as Phantom Knight. Gamma and Goku both damaged each other a lot, no one has clearyl won or lost their fight yet, I think this fight will turn out the same.
Ann-chan
06-14-2008, 11:05 AM
I hope so :> and then in the end Phantom Knight will return to normal and they will all team up ahahaha cos the Vongola senior members are both defeated lol lal can't do anything anymore and Ryohei is badly damaged as well..... so they need new older people to watch over them :lmao
spacecat
06-14-2008, 11:30 AM
I think the Vongola will win here for sure so it seems likely to me Ann...though I'm sure many will disagree. I would have felt differently before the flashback but now it just seems too obvious.
eddieson
06-14-2008, 01:27 PM
yeh :lmao can't go wrong with Yama, he always wins xD Unlike Gokudera, who always seems to lose =____=; but maybe Yama will finally lose to even it out :p
Unfortunately Yama has already lost before.
spacecat
06-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Yeah he lost to Gamma :lmao
I can't remember if there was anyone else?
eddieson
06-14-2008, 02:35 PM
He also lost to Squallo.
Ann-chan
06-14-2008, 02:41 PM
oh yeh the very first time but that wasn't really a fight? I guess xD Yama and Goku both got their asses kicked xD
Griffith
06-14-2008, 07:32 PM
yep I can't see it not being him at all :T and he did betray the family.
I also noticed in re-reading v20 that Ginger Bread is actually Black Spell too xD and we still haven't actually seen him cos the first was a doll~ I don't think he was in the Giglio Nero before though, guess he joined later ^^;
bah I can't wait till next week's fight <3 It's gonna be goood haha looking forward to some good old sword fighting <3
I got to correct you Ann-Chan, Ginger is actually white spell, that fact coming from him being Glo's VC in the 8th squad. Which is a white spell division. His puppet does where black but it is not the millefiore uniform.
http://img34.onemanga.com/mangas/00000024/00000185/12-13.jpg
hazel
06-14-2008, 11:10 PM
yeh :lmao can't go wrong with Yama, he always wins xD Unlike Gokudera, who always seems to lose =____=; but maybe Yama will finally lose to even it out :p
that would be interesting if he'd lost and have to have for ex. Gokudera and Gamma saving him, cos really, everything seems to be way to easy to Yamamoto /i know he's just a genius, that's all, and that's how i love him but that would've been interesting to watch, and maybe Gokudera would grow up at least and stop boasting about every small thing when he does a big one/
Ann-chan
06-15-2008, 05:10 PM
@Griff: yeh you're totally right lol I dunno why I misread it xD I was so surprised about it lol but I mixed him up with someone else now that I think about it.... cos that one guy that was killed by baishana.... the one with the piercings and tats lol I think we saw him in the flashback too xD so he was really Giglio Nero before :>
but we still need to see the real Ginger :hm
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