Arrancar ~ where do they go?

[Sarada]

Where do you think Arrancar go when they die?

I'm specifically interested in the ones who got killed by a Zanpaktou. For example, Shawlong, Deeroy, Edorado, Illforte, Nakim, and Grimmjow is now in the danger zone too.

In the anime, it appeared as if they did get purified, in the manga it's not clear at all.

Now the important thing.

Would Aizen LET them be purified??

We don't know if an Arrancar would remember anything from it's 'kar days, and even if it doesn't, it's still a risk, since SS might have some method of recalling those memories. Thus providing valuable information on Hueco Mundo, Las Noches, the Espada, .... .

Note that Aizen did have the technique to make the hollow that killed Kaien go back to HM after it was dead. So preventing an Arrancar to be purified would be among the possible techniques.

So are they tampered with so they can't go to SS? Will they go to SS at all?

[krompt]

Intresting. I believe that when a hollow becomes an arrancar he become "part shinigami" and in turn shiningamis are technically already dead or "Souls". But if an arrancar could die i think that they would go to a place in SS that isn't interfered with, because techically arrancars are human souls that turned into a hollow, then arrancar, so if they dont go to hell they should go to SS. But that is a very interesting topic.

[Nama]

Good question. :confused:

Like krompt said, the Arrancar become half-Shinigami. . .in a way. They still are partly Hollows, who originally were humans. I think they should have at least a part of their human souls remaining in them. So since they are not actually Shinigami, I don't think they just disappear/become non-existent when they die. What I think is that they will go either to Soul Society or Hell.

When they were Arrancarized, they became more Shinigami-like in terms of fighting abilities, but they didn't become Shinigami. So why couldn't they go to Soul Society (or Hell) when they die? Maybe if Aizen has developed a technique that'll prevent them from being purified, just like Sarada said. But now, I say it's possible/likely that their souls go to Soul Society or Hell.

[Mei]

I tend more towards Hell, because as Hollows they ate Human souls, right...
But who knows...difficult, but interesting topic.

[yanniv]

Well, they technically die. Kaien said in a Rukia flashback that when (they) spirits die, they return to Soul Society in the form of particles that make up Soul Society. I believe this basically means that you as a soul die, but your remains, similar to a human body when it's breaking down, goes into things and is used for other purposes(kinda like our body can be used by bacteria, etc.).

I also would like to add that Aizen probably has a technique that the dead Arrancar return to Hueco Mundo, instead of Soul Society. This would make sense and that way Aizen or Szayel could use those particles for further experiments of investigations.

[Sarada]

Well, they technically die. Kaien said in a Rukia flashback that when (they) spirits die, they return to Soul Society in the form of particles that make up Soul Society. I believe this basically means that you as a soul die, but your remains, similar to a human body when it's breaking down, goes into things and is used for other purposes(kinda like our body can be used by bacteria, etc.).

Kenpachi also said "When we die we change a little and then we can fight again"

And this was also discussed in the Databook, but this doesn't include Arrancars.

I tend more towards Hell, because as Hollows they ate Human souls, right...
But who knows...difficult, but interesting topic.

Yeah Hell would be the place they go if they were evil in life, but evil acts after death ( as a hollow) aren't counted and are the essence of the 'purification'.

[SiSL]

To my theory, they are purified as seperative hollows that formed them. Basically no more D-roy, Shawlong or Grimmjow... The hollows that they formed them will be purified considering they consist more than one soul unlike Shinigami.

[yanniv]

Kenpachi also said "When we die we change a little and then we can fight again"

And this was also discussed in the Databook, but this doesn't include Arrancars.

Well, if you are going to claim he said such, provide in the SOULs book you found it and the chapter Kenpachi said it in.

Mine is chapter 268. www.readbleach.com just for your convenience.

And if yours turns out to be true, it means we have inconsistent information on Kubo's part. Hopefully that isn't the issue.

[Llama]

Arrancar are purified as shown in the manga when Isshin purified the Grand Fisher. Though as other people have said, Aizen has probably tampered with this. Such as the hollow Kaien faced or Grantz's brother.

And though Vaizards aren't mentioned, I believe they would die the same way a Shinigami would.

[Griffith]

They go to Szayel's Laboratory, for experimentation:nuts

[Axie]

Well, if you think about it... Arrancar are technically still hollows. They just decided to remove the mask, making them more powerful. Arrancar were never given the chance to get purified when they were masked. I believe if a Shinigami defeats an arrancar the soul trapped in the arrancar will be purifed and sent to Soul Society.

[Geta Boshi]

Most likely SS purified as one soul, cant leave out hell depending on gravity of crimes.

Kaien’s Hollow Metastacia was an exception the hollow had taken refuge in a shinigami body . Shinigami souls don’t need to get purified also most likely leave bodies behind in SS ( Bya's Parents Graves Kaien's body : How Ganju remembers Rukia) .Also due to refuge in a shinigami's body the purification ritual for Metastacia could have been omitted

Also Metastacia was created by Aizen I don’t think other Gillians or Adjucas are created by Aizen just hybridized . Metastacia was a Psuedo Arrancar most likely none of Numeros are they have been hybridized by Hogyoku

[Velius]

Well, arrancars are just evolved hollows. And hollows were once human souls. So if they were die by a zankauto, then I guess they would go to the Soul Society or Hell. And if they were killed by something else, they would just cease to exist.

Souls can retain their memories when sent to the SS. I would say it is possible hollows and arrancar could as well. But this whole topic leaves a lot to guessing and filling in, when Kubo is the only that can do that without being wrong.

[Beee]

I think they would reincarnate in the human world if they're killed (though if they're eaten It's not quite clear...) since they're part shinigami.

[Velius]

I think all souls reincarnate in the human world if they're killed (though if they're eaten It's not quite clear...)
Yea, souls that have been sent to Rukongai, that die are sent back to the real world, somehow. We still aren't exactly sure on the process. I remember early in the manga it said souls going both ways were regulated. Didn't go anymore into it then that.

[StarryInoueSky]

I think they would go to SS... and the ones who did evil deeds while being alive would go to Hell... *is curious to know what kind of lives Grimmjow and Ulquiorra had*

[Saffire]

Well, if you are going to claim he said such, provide in the SOULs book you found it and the chapter Kenpachi said it in.Well, Kenpachi's line at least is in c143. As for SOULs, the only thing I know of from it is that souls who are sent to Soul Society pass a fixed period of time and then reincarnate. I don't know what (if anything) it says about Shinigami, but they don't seem bound by that rule since we know many Shinigami that are a couple hundred (or even thousand) years old.

Kaien's lines do not necessarily contradict Kenpachi's, however. Kaien only spoke of the body and the heart, neither of which need be involved with reincarnation.

[yanniv]

Well, Kenpachi's line at least is in c143. As for SOULs, the only thing I know of from it is that souls who are sent to Soul Society pass a fixed period of time and then reincarnate. I don't know what (if anything) it says about Shinigami, but they don't seem bound by that rule since we know many Shinigami that are a couple hundred (or even thousand) years old.

Kaien's lines do not necessarily contradict Kenpachi's, however. Kaien only spoke of the body and the heart, neither of which need be involved with reincarnation.

Well, the way Kaien put it, was the body itself becomes spirit particles and your heart (or memories) move on to others. From that statement I conclude that it's very similar to how we die. Our bodies go, but our memories live on in other people's minds. The only difference is the spirit particles probably go on to make new spirit. I however doubt that these new spirit will retain the same memories seeing as that would make Kaien's point irrelevant.

[Shirosaki]

this might help

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5826/sscopia657pr.gif

[Shannon]

I'd guess they'd go to the Soul Society, if killed by a zanpaktou. If they were killed by a Quincy... where did they go again? I forget.

Unless they're really purely evil, then they'd go straight through the gates of hell.

[Llama]

Wow Shirosaki, you're a better artist then Rukia is.

[Axie]

Thanks for that Shirosaki !! <3

*right clicks and saves~*

[Surreal]

Arrancars are still Hollows in nature, so if they are purified by a Zanpaktou they should go to Soul Society.

I think all the souls that once formed a Gillian class arrancar/hollow are set free and they return to Soul Society.

If I recall correctly, the only souls that go to hell are the ones who committed unforgivable acts while they were alive. All the crimes after they turned Hollow are washed away after the soul burial, or so Rukia explains it.

So if you were good person during your life you will go to Soul Society and if you were a murder/rapist/whatever you will go to Hell, regardless of what you have done during your Hollow state.

[krompt]

I'd guess they'd go to the Soul Society, if killed by a zanpaktou. If they were killed by a Quincy... where did they go again? I forget.

Unless they're really purely evil, then they'd go straight through the gates of hell.

If a quincy kills them their soul is completely destroyed, which unbalances the nature of the universe or something like that.

And thanx shiro you never cease to amaze:D

[Sarada]

I think all the souls that once formed a Gillian class arrancar/hollow are set free and they return to Soul Society.


That's if they can be seperated.

I'm not fully comprehending all of the Menos stuff, but the latest anime episodes mentioned that the eaten soul will be released again if the Hollow is purified ... don't know if you can rely on the anime that much tho ... Studio Pierrot are utter morons, like Kakashi not being able to see through Itachi's Bunshin with his Sharingan .... my god .... ok off topic ...

But a Menos isn't a normal Hollow, so there's no telling if they'll split up when they are killed.

[Surreal]

Well, when Hollows are purified they revert to a plus with their sins erased.

So it is possible that all those hollows are reverted to a plus, thus destroying the bond that formed the Menos.

Menos Grande are nothing more then a Hollow Voltron xD

[BigBadBuu]

Menos Grande are nothing more then a Hollow Voltron xD


"...and I'll form the Head!"
/me pictures the transformation sequence.
:rotflmao


I want to agree with those who say that Arrancar are "just" upgraded hollows-- ie, they are simply purified upon death.

Then again, as stated & proven by Uryuu, arrancarization does give them Shinigami anatomy. Also, #8 did speak about recovering Il Forte's remains.

What is clear is that the "hollow" does die, very permanently at that. It's the plus part of the soul that's recovered. Actually, yeah... The hollow is actually like a shell encasing a trapped plus. Whatever happens to that shell doesn't affect the plus, right? I mean, Ichigo didn't take any of the damage the Vaizard inflicted on Hichigo right?

So yeah, I think everything would point Arrancar being purified just the same as "normal" hollows, with some hollow "remains" left over at the scene.

-Buu

[Syn]

Yeah I agree BigBadBuu.
Beside that, I'm one of those who think that once a soul/hollow is eaten by another hollow, it's pretty much destroyed as it serves merely as food, to become a part of the current hollow (Aaro being an exception, as he could use the memories/powers from those souls, it proves that usually they're not conglomerate of hollows, but one hollow).
And if the hollow is killed, he goes to either hell/SS depending on the sins he did while human.

And while I'm at it, souls killed by Quincies are destroyed. No redemption for them.