Reborn Target 192 Spoilers and Discussion

[Ann-chan]

First spoilers are out:

終始獄寺戦
獄「SISTEMA　C.A.I.とは複数の属性リングと複数のボックスを順序よく開匣しなくては力を出し 切ることのないパズルのボックス
そしてこいつを使いこなすための５つの波動がオレには流れている」

嵐の炎の表面を雨の炎でコーティングして攻撃したりしてた

Translation by Kirimi @ MH:

Gokudera is talking, presumably to Gamma. The SISTEMA C.A.I. is a puzzle box system. It consists of multiple Rings and Boxes of different attributes, and it needs to be opened in a certain order for it to work. If it's not opened in the correct order, you can't use its power. This means that if you master the SISTEMA C.A.I., you can use 5 flame attributes at once.

Gokudera's Storm flames are surrounded by Rain flames as he attacks.

pics:

http://i30.tinypic.com/15gs5t5.jpg
Gokudera: You're not the only one who's changed.

http://i28.tinypic.com/10ftjs2.jpg

script:

(煽り・C.A.I.･･･その真価とは！？)
標的192 SISTEMA C.A.I.
獄｢よくも芝生を！！｣
γ｢中学生登場か　また痛い目にあいたいようだな｣
獄｢ほざいてろ　変わったのはおまえだけじゃねえ｣
γ｢ほう　そいつは楽しみだ　しかしまた大層な兵器だな
その異様な形状と怪しい装飾は　３人の匣職人の中で最も芸術家肌のイノチェンティのオリジナル とみた
高くうりさばいといてやるぜ　ショットプラズマ！！｣
かわす獄寺。
γ｢ホバーで晴の守護者からひきはなそうってのか？どうせおまえも死ぬんだ　無意味だぜ　エレクトリック・ タワー｣
受け流す獄寺。
γ｢！！まただ　嵐の兵器でオレの炎を完全に無効化だと？｣
獄寺の瞳の中にスカウターのような解析図が現れている｡
獄｢標的射距離3800　温度20度　湿度55％　無風　重力　磁力による補正0.012｣
γ｢！｣
獄｢赤炎の矢(ﾌﾚｲﾑｱﾛｰ)！！｣
γ｢ほう　だいぶできるようになったな　だが｣
雷のバリアで防ぐγ。
γ｢たとえ嵐の"分解"能力をもってしても　属性一の硬度をほこる雷の・・・オレの炎のバリアを破ることはできない！ ！
！！貫いている！？　それはありえねえ！！MAXパワーだぞ　エレクトリック・タワーのはじき方といい・・ ・ちいっ　一体どうなっている？｣
獄｢逃がすかよ！！｣
γ｢逃げやしねーよ｣
獄｢！？｣
γ｢見るのさ！！｣
バリアを使わずに炎を受けるγ。
γ｢・・・！！この炎・・・ただの嵐の炎じゃ・・・！｣
γの顔面に炎が当たる(痛そうw)
γ｢ぐっ　っと　あぶねぇ・・・｣
顔から血を流すγ。
γ｢うやむやは許せないタチでな　だがハッキリしたぜ　正直驚いたがな
嵐と雨の属性の炎を同時に使えるとはな
正確には嵐の炎の表面に雨の炎をコーティングしてる
雨の炎で雷のバリアを沈静させ弱体化させてから　嵐の炎で分解して貫く
お前のシールドも同じだ　沈静と分解の相乗効果でオレの炎を無効化させた｣
γ(・・・・・・一つのリングが炎にできる属性は一種のみだが　炎を出すために必要な波動を　一人の人間が 複数持つことはある
そのために複数のリングと匣を持つ者もいるが　実戦で使えるレベルとなると相当なレアだ)
γ｢ましてや２種類の炎を融合し同時に放つなんざ聞いたことがねえ｣
獄｢へっ　おまえをそこまでビビらせられたなら苦労したかいがあったぜ｣
獄(そうだ　嵐の属性以外の炎に気づくことがSISTEMA C.A.I.を解く鍵だったのさ・・・)
　～回想～
獄｢くっそー！！やっぱりわからねーぜ！！
SISTEMA C.A.I.と名付けられた匣が16コ　そのうち開けられた匣は4コだけ・・・しかも出てきた兵器に炎を注 入してもウンともスンとも言わねぇ・・・
１つには全く使えねぇ仔猫が入ってるしよ～～｣
床でガリガリつめとぎする瓜w
獄(本当に10年後のオレはこれに活路を見い出せてたのかよ！！これじゃ山本にも勝てねぇし　10代目のお 役に立つどころか迷惑が・・・)
瓜が机に飛び乗りゴロゴロ転がる。
獄｢おいコラ！！兵器で遊ぶな！オモチャじゃねーんだぞ！！｣
瓜｢フーッ｣獄｢！｣
瓜｢シャー！！｣獄｢ゴラー！！｣
大ゲンカ。
(瓜・スタスタ去る)
獄｢(ゼェゼェ)くそ・・・ケンカ損だぜ
げっ　やっべ！！壊しちまった！！　どこのパーツだよこれ！リングみてーだけど・・・　！！｣
獄(・・・・・！リング！？)
それを指にはめてみる。
獄｢！！かすかだが　こいつは雨の炎！？｣
(オレには雨の波動も流れてんのか・・・？)
(ドシュッ)獄｢こいつもだっ　雨のリングで新たに３つの匣が開いた！！
だかまた兵器はウンともスンとも言わねぇ・・・しかもまだ９つも開かねえ匣が・・・
はっ　まさかこの３つの兵器のどっかにもリングのパーツが・・・・・？　！あった！！｣
　～回想終わり～
γ｢どうやら　そいつは中遠距離攻撃に特化した兵器のようだな　だがカラクリがわかった上で　そう何度もく らうと思うか？｣
獄｢さーな｣炎を打ち出す。
γ(また雨のコーティングか・・・？よけるが吉か・・・　！何だ！？この不規則な加速！！　この尋常じゃな い炎の出力は・・・晴の活性か！！まずい)
γに直撃する。
獄｢嵐と雨だけならば話は簡単だったんだ
SISTEMA C.A.I.とは　複数の属性リングと複数の匣を順序よく開匣しなくては力を出しきることのない　パズルの 匣！！
そしてC.A.I.を使いこなすための　５つの波動がオレには流れている｣
右手の全ての指にはめたリングには、それぞれ違う炎が灯っている。
(煽り・嵐＋４種の波動が紡ぎ出すバリエーション！！)
　
巻末・G.W.過ぎるとどんどん暑くなっていきますね。でも半袖はラクチンで好きです！

[Primera Espada]

hm, this makes him and yamamoto an even BETTER pair, don't you think?

I like the fact that Gokudera, who's always had to be the smart fighter of the group, is having an intricate puzzle that he has to unlock in a certain order to make it effective.

It's interesting though cause anything that's not storm is gonna be weaker than normal.

Ideally I wonder if this sistema will be used by the entire group, so it can be used at max strength??

[yanniv]

Seems pretty hax of a setup to have 5 different wave attributes if done right, but having a water coating fighting someone with electricity isn't a good idea.

[Lilium]

Thanks for the spoilers Ann :wtf

Sistema CAI sounds pretty hax lol. let's see if goku makes his future self proud.

[beautiful_death]

Sistema CAI seems to be very powerful. If Gokudera can get it right, he'll give Gamma a run for his money. However, water clashing with electricity might be bad.

[Ann-chan]

luckily a proper translation was now given by kirimi so I posted that up XD (there wasn't any yet when I posted earlier) I'm glad to see I was right on most points lawl but the bit about the mastering was too hard for me xD *should get a proper dictionary*

anyway, I already love SISTEMA C.A.I. *A* It's because I love puzzles ahaha it seems so original and indeed, very like Gokudera cuz we all know he is secretly really really smart XD

but yeh, wonder what he means to accomplish with the water :T maybe he'll get the coating off once it's absorbed all electricity lawl :p

[yanniv]

http://i30.tinypic.com/15gs5t5.jpg

[Ann-chan]

thanks for the pic yan <3 sadly doesn't really show anything new though xD ended with this kind of pic last time... I want to see Gamma's face though huhuhu :p

[Primera Espada]

ooh, I get it.

It's like they were explaining, something like clouds beget lightning begets storm, which begets rain, which begets mist...

or something.

So he has to do it in that order, but I bet he can start with any of them, as long as he keeps going in the right order.

[yanniv]

http://i28.tinypic.com/10ftjs2.jpg

[Ann-chan]

XD awesome, I already don't get it at all rofl but it seems like he needs to use a ring and then get a number of boxes open and to use another ring, he'll need to use some kind of combo lol xD

looks like the five abilities he can use are storm, rain, thunder and then I think cloud and sky but my italian isn't that good lawl

also, added the script to the first post, in case anyone might find that interesting to dig through :p

[Primera Espada]

to sum up the pic, he has 4 storm boxes, 4 rain boxes, 2 thunder boxes, 4 cloud boxes, and 2 sky boxes.

as I understand the pattern,
he has to use them in this order

storm, rain, sky
or
storm, thunder, cloud.

And it's possible he can only activate the sky or cloud at the same time as rain or thunder (respectively)

[Ann-chan]

wow you're so smart primera :O I didn't get it at all lol I'm not made for stuff like that xD is too much like math orz;;;

but anyway I was right about the boxes, kirimi gave confirmation (she's italian, so she knows haha):

Tempesta = Storm
Pioggia = Rain
Fulmine = Lightning
Ciel sereno = Clear Sky
Nembo = Cloud

<3 someone should give him sun and mist boxes and then he'll be the pokéboxmaster! XD

[Primera Espada]

lol, actually, those threw me off QUITE a bit

Tempesta = Storm, that was easy
Pioggia = Rain, that was too
Fulmine = Actually means thunder (which if you remember, the actual ring is the thunder ring, not the lightning ring)
Ciel sereno = I kept getting blue sky, but apparently 2chan thought it was the sun, so I got worried XD
Nembo = Raincloud

See, just cloud is a different word, lightning is a different word, and just sky is ciel. So it wook me awhile to figure out exactly what everything was XD

[spacecat]

Interesting, seems kinda hax for him :3 I wonder if he can even use it properly yet?

[Raiden]

I still believe in the goddess :hm

[Kolbertt]

Spoilers out! - Massive script

Kirimi, from Manga Helpers says:


- Gokudera and Gamma exchange banter, as usual. Gamma compliments Gokudera for his "exaggerated weapon". I think he said the Boxes were created by Innocenti (the most artistic of 3 creators of the Box technology).
- Gamma attacks with his Shot Plasma and Electric Tower. He says Gokudera's Storm flames are useless against him.
- Gokudera simply defends the attacks (I think), and analyses the situation. He is able to assess the target's distance, ambient temperature, humidity, wind conditions, gravity, and magnetic field to correct for all these factors before he shoots the Flame Arrow.
- Gamma defends with his EM barrier. He says even the Storm flame's disintegration powers cannot penetrate his solid lightning flames.
- Or so he thought. >XD Gokudera's flames smash through his barriers, forcing Gamma to max his power to avoid being hit directly. Though the flames graze his face, and he's bleeding from his face.
- Gamma realises that the flames that struck his barrier were not just Storm flames. Gamma is surprised that Gokudera is able to use both the Storm and Rain flames at the same time.
- Then, what follows is Gokudera explaining, I think, but the script is unclear. He says that his storm flames are being coated with rain flames. The rain flames' tranquility weakened the EM barrier, while the storm flames' disintegration did the rest. The synergy of the two types of flames means that Gamma's Lightning flames are now useless.
- Gamma says one Ring can only make one type of flames, but people are able to have multiple attributes with the required wave energy. So, there are people who hold multiple Boxes and Rings of different attributes. However, this is very rare and even rarer for them to use it in battle. Then, to use two different attribute flames at the same time is completely unheard of.
- Gokudera is pleased with himself for causing Gamma's real shock. To himself, he recalls that the key to unlocking the Sistema C.A.I's secrets was to notice the flames of other attributes.

~ Flashback ~
- Gokudera is trying to figure out the Sistema C.A.I. From its name, he realises that the system has 16 Boxes, but he's only managed to open 4 of them. Plus, he can't power all 4 of them with his flames.
- The only one he's managed to power with his flames is the cat. Uri is scratching the floor behind him. XD
- Gokudera is depressed that he can't even beat Yamamoto or help Tsuna. Uri jumps onto the table and starts rolling around. XDD
- Gokudera shoos the cat away (I think Uri is playing with the Boxes?) and eventually, they get into a cat fight. XDDDD
- But, pretty soon, Uri walks out of it... Gokudera lost. >_> To his horror, he realises that their scuffle has broken one of his Boxes. He picks up a strange-looking item that looks like a Ring. He puts on the Ring and notices a faint blue rain flame! Gokudera realises that he actually has the Rain wave energy too.
- With the Rain flame, he's able to open another 3 Boxes. But, he still doesn't understand how the weapon works, nor can he open the remaining 9 Boxes.
- But, Gokudera quickly realises that among the 3 Boxes he can open, there's another one which has a Ring... And he finds it!
~ End flashback ~

- Gamma says he's figured out Gokudera's weapon. Gokudera is indifferent and attacks again.
- Gamma is expecting the Rain-coated storm flames, and readies for it, but the flames speed increases. They're now armed with the activation of the sun flames! Gokudera scores a direct hit.
- He says, "If it's just the Storm and Rain, that'd be too easy. The Sistema C.A.I. consists of multiple Rings and Boxes to be opened in a prescribed order. It's a puzzle box! In order to use the C.A.I, I must have 5 wave energies coursing through me."
- In Gokudera's right hand, all his Rings light up with different attribute flames.

end

:-_- - Dare correct me if wrong, but doesn't this contradict what was stated some chapters ago? :s

[Dizzy]

Interesting, so Gamma's on the ropes for the moment o:

But he hasn't even busted out the foxes yet, let alone whatever he has that makes him confident he can beat Hibari ...

And if Haya has all of the wave energies, then does that mean Bianchi has them all too? Unless it's just Haya's mother who's got the epic rainbow of powers :zomg

Anyways, thanks for the trans Kolbertt, and thanks for the spoilers Ann-chan and Yanny, very much appreciated <333

[Kolbertt]

Blah - I'm kinda "Meh" on the chapter so far...

I mean, I thought that the multiple flame thing (From now on, referred to as "The Rainbow HAX" Credits to Dizzy :p) was purely and Exclusive of the Arcobaleno's... Kinda like this kills the uniqueness of Lal :-_-

Prolly a better explanation or a proper translation can change my mind ---

[Dizzy]

Well isn't Gokudera from a renowned Mafia family or something?

Maybe his Rainbow Powers were caused by the breeding of several generations of mafioso with different flame wavelengths.

Honestly, despite agreeing with Kolbertt on the out-of-nowhere-ness, I'm really intrigued here. And I'm sure Amano can pull off a good explanation in the end.

[yanniv]

Well it did say some chapters back that people have many different wave types regardless of their main wave type.

Also remember Hibari used a mist ring right after the gamma fight. So this idea isn't exactly all that new, it's just hasn't been showcased until now.

[Primera Espada]

I find it strange that "clear sky" translates into sun? I guess it all depends on if gokudera actually uses the kanji for sun when talking about it.

[spacecat]

Thanks for posting the script, I think I look forward more to next weeks chapter than this, when Gamma gets serious :lmao

[Primera Espada]

Apparently, even though the ITALIAN word in sistema CIA is for sky, the japanese word they use is apparently derived from the word sun, so he's actually using everything but sky and mist.

[Ann-chan]

raw is out dudes :O get it here (http://rapidshare.com/files/113795315/KHR_192_FrankyHouseRaws_b.zip)~

[spacecat]

Thanks Ann, well I'm more keen to see next weeks now XD

[Ann-chan]

yes it was really cool <3 and Gamma is so getting pwned no matter what you all say :p

[spacecat]

I spose we shall see ;) At least wait till Gamma gets serious before you decide :p

[Dizzy]

Thanks Ann-chan, looks pretty awesome o:

I wonder when the onslaught of GokuGamma yaoi is going to show up :heehee

[Raiden]

we will see Gamma covered in his foxes next ch, virtually unharmed :hm

[Ann-chan]

^lol yeh, we will see Gamma covered in his foxes, totally PWND by Goku :hm

[yanniv]

Don't underestimate Gamma.

This chapter was a typical shounen cliche chapter.

[Dizzy]

As long as it doesn't start swinging back and forth like the IchiGrimm fight, where each chapter has a different person winning and momentum flops around like a fish out of water.

That was just annoying as hell :/

[Ann-chan]

^yeh I hope it won't be like that orz

and ok ok, I'll cut the jokes about Gamma already :p it's just fun to tease space xD I am actually still rather skeptical about how Goku could have become stronger than Gamma just by having Sistema C.A.I even though Gamma also powered up >__>;

[spacecat]

lol I knew it :yell but it's ok cos now I can stop talking smack about Gokudera :p

[Ann-chan]

yeeeeey we can all live in peace again XD it's just so much fun to see you defending the failed aizen clone :p xD

[spacecat]

I feel sorry for him D: He gets hated on so much :cry

[Ann-chan]

but it's not real hate D: I love him too, it's just that he's so much fun to make fun of XDDD just like mukuro lol

[spacecat]

Yeah I don't really mean by you, Yan showed me a thread at manga helpers and they were all dissing him :hm And yeah Mukuro is fun to make fun of kufufufufu xD

[Ann-chan]

omg D: I never really go there for anything but scans and info and stuff so I never noticed orz poor Gamma :cry I wish I had the spinning mukuro gif here now rofl it's too cool XD we should get some reborn smileys lol I nominate the headbutt of love and spinning mukuro I know that loz and juu will back me up on it XD

[Lilium]

Making fun of Mukuro? :hm

:hm

[spacecat]

lol it got moved to the emotes thread cos ppl were complaining XD The spinnning Mukuro is hilarious xDD but we better talk about the chapter in here anyways :p