Do you believe in supernatural stuff?

[spacecat]

So do you? Ever seen one? Tell us about it xD

I've had some pretty freaky experiences myself and it is made scarier by the fact that my sister saw it also. It wasn't a ghost as such more like a transparant door that hovered in my room when we were kids. We nicknamed it the "the gate" cos we made a joke that it was a gate to another dimension. We tried throwing stuff at it but it just did nothing of course lol well our cousin got a psychic to bless a card which she gave us, we put it in the room and never saw it again. I was really young then so didn't really think about it at the time but if I saw it again I'd probably freak out. So not really a ghost story but kinda, I have more but i wanna hear what other people think first :p

[Zikky]

I haven't had any personal experiences, (well once when I was younger I got out of my bed and walked to my parents room and saw some shining balls of white, then I ran away, but I forget if that was a dream or not...) but my dad saw a ghost at a really old hotel. Freaked him out and he ran into a wall :D

[Frosted Heart]

I don't recall any ghost/supernatural things happening to me (except for one but that's kind of sketchy), but I do believe this world contains a lot of unsolved mysteries in it.

My brother said he saw a ghost hand flicking the lights off in the basement, when he was young and we still lived in our old house in the Philippines. It freaked him out and he never forgot the experience.

My uncle once stayed in a haunted hotel room. The closet door kept opening throughout the night, even when he jammed it really good. He called the front desk and transferred out to another room (well they did warn him beforehand but he didn't listen, lol!).

[shivath]

I don't believe in it myself but don't think it's anything wrong with thinking that way. I guess I choose not to think too much about it. Not too interested in it :) There is LOTS of things that is hard or impossible to explain in this world so I'm not even close to 100% sure it's not out there.

[ichiruki4eva]

I STRONGLY believe in ghosts because when I was like 5-7 I had what is known a sixth sense and therefore I could see all kinds of ghosts.... the one that I remember mostly was an old fashioned man wearing a top hat and split tuxedo, I found it interesting xD even though I somewhat grew out of that power... you can say that I can sense it and my four year old bro tells me what he sees like 'theres a funny man right there!!' and yah lol anyways, I DO believe in ghosts, and if you don't, then its ur loss cuz its totally true :D

[spacecat]

wow some interesting stories. lmao FH he stayed there even after they told him? Brave..@_@ And Zik I dunno, shining balls of light sound scary enough to me.

ichiruki4eva yeah when I was younger I remember a lot more stuff happening or me and my twin seeing alot of the same weird things. Makes me wonder if we imagined it together somehow of if it's just something kids are more aware of somehow?

[Frosted Heart]

wow some interesting stories. lmao FH he stayed there even after they told him? Brave..@_@ LOL, well, I'd call it more "he-scoffed-at-them-and-said-he-didn't-believe-in-ghosts" more than "brave". XD

But after that incident he believed in ghosts. ;)

[emoloz]

Yes i do. My experience of seeing Ghosts when i was that little geek in Y8 that voluntered to help out at parents evening. And we had to escourt parents to the allocated rooms to see their childrens teachers. When me and my friend were walking through the old part of the building once we had finished escourting some parents and we saw this women next to the fireplace and she was warming her hands against it. You see my high school used to be a nunnary with its own stable and such so we think that its one of the nuns which died there and haunts that part of the nunary which is now the staff area of the school.

[spacecat]

lmao FH. Yeah, you live in the UK and you have so much history over there. Lot's of haunted places apparently. *watched too much most haunted*

[McDoogle]

I believe in them, ive had a couple of personal experiences, like, seeing my granddad(dads side) in my room, and i wasn't born when he died. There's just little things that make me believe. As for most haunted, that's most likely a hokes xD

[spacecat]

Yeah it is pretty funny to watch though ahaha Have you seen it? When Derek acts like he is possessed, I can't stop laughing xD

[Jaws]

a transparant door that hovered in my room
:eek: ... I'd probably have a heart attack if I see that in my room!!! It's freakier than seeing a ghost, since you have no idea if something is goin' to come out from it, and what!!! I can't believe you two were brave enough to throw things at it ... :eek:

I have never seen any ghosts before ( I hope I never will ), but I do believe in them. Many members of my family have a tendency to run into them once in awhile. An aunt and uncle of mine stayed in a chalet before, where 'something' kept flushing the toilet ... eventually the thing got bored of doin' that, and went on to 'play' with their bed : shaking the bed, and moving it from one side of room to another. My Dad 'ran over' an apparition of a Japanese soldier before, while driving by a WWII cemetery at night. Another uncle of mine heard footsteps following behind him when he made a trip to the bathroom one night, he saw wet footprints trailing him when he looked back ( the house had wooden floors, and no it wasn't his footprints ). Another uncle once woke up holding a cross in his hand, it was on a necklace that he lost when he was a kid, and something found it for him, or rather decided to return it to him!?

I've heard many ghost stories from my family before, but those are the ones that got stuck in my head.

[Llama]

Yes, I believe in the supernatural. And I wouldn't want to mess with it lol.

[Riekie]

I dunno if it was some sort of ghost experience or not but it sure freaked the hell out of me.

in my old house (2 years ago) my room was in the attic and it covered almost everything of it. I had 4 slide doors, 2 behind my bed and 2 across the room on the other side..where I could store things.

one night I started to hear scraping sounds behind one of the sliding doors from across my room..first I thought that i was going nuts and tried to continue sleeping but it became louder and louder until some point it almost felt like it was about to open the slide door. it continued for several nights and suddenly it was gone.

My mom said that it was probably a tree or the wind but how can that be in confined space?

gah..when i think about it it totally freaks me out cuz i was terrified.

A friend of mine had some wacky and very scary experiences as well so I do think that there might be something...

[Shinrin]

not sure. I want to belive in supernatural stuff, but i havn't seen anything that i'd say prove anything so...guess it's a no.

[emoloz]

lmao FH. Yeah, you live in the UK and you have so much history over there. Lot's of haunted places apparently. *watched too much most haunted*

Yeah i heared the stories of you and Juunana watching most haunted xDDD. Yeah so theres really not much of a wonder that i saw a ghost.


I have seen loads of orbs as well. Theres this scary picture of my mum with loads around her when she was a baby O_O. We think she might have been a twin and the other cell to the twin inside my grandmother died and the orbs are telling us this.

Most haunted gah that shows so fake tho tbh. Though its funny when that Derick used to just flip out and pretend to be the ghost xD

[Darkhope]

Wow spacecat. xD What an experience.

I don't know... I've heard stories, but in reality, I think they are all souls that lost their way. I don't think any ghost is "truly evil", as some may put it.

[Gothic Lolita]

I dont think they are ghosts. Demons ? probably ...

My cousin saw a demon wearing all white, walking in their house on the ground floor jst before i came to spend the night. And her brother sometimes hears weird noises in his room.

My aunt saw a little boy wearing white and running THRU the door at 1am in our house ...

I believe that demons lurk in houses when they are not fully re-built and left in that state for some years. And they are always in caves and appear in deserts in the middle of the night. They showed in our local news station about a hunted cave, they showed a clip of a man running out of the cave yelling that someone is throwing rocks at him and when the camera zooms on the ground, you can see sand shoting up when the rocks hit the ground. now thats freaky >_>

[Slev]

This happened about 6 years ago when I was 13.

There is a big house on the corner of the street I used to live on, with a big property, and a large garage on the side made of cheap wood and chipped paint. My neighbors just moved out, without reason, so we gave the house the moniker of "abandoned house". They left abruptly, selling it to a construction company interested in building something over it (I know this because of the sign in front of the house explaining the request of a permit to build over it).

Nobody knew the family who lived there, but everyone knew they were odd. My friend Brian and I have seen them do things through open windows that I can't explain. They seemed to know when we were watching, because we wouldn't ever see them for more then 10 seconds a time. They would quickly close their curtains and continue their business. We could never get close to the house either, because of a nasty rotweiller who stood guard in front of the house. The property was also very poorly kept, as if they were to busy to take care of it.

Brian bought a telescope to look at the sky, but I had a better plan. He agreed, and one night we hid behind a truck in the lot across the street from the house. When their curtains opened we peered into the telescope, but we had a bad angle and couldn't see much. We watched for 2 or 3 minutes, and saw them preforming some kind of ritual and wearing all black. Then they stopped, looked directly at us, and shut the curtains. How they saw us behind the truck is beyond me. The next month they suddenly left, and rather then close their garage they put a big rock in front of it. They seemed to be in a hurry, because there was clothes on the floor like they didn't close a suitcase properly or bother to pack at all. For a while I thought they went on vacation. but after a month, I knew they weren't coming back.

We went into the house and some weird stuff happened, but I have no idea if it was all in our heads or not. There could be logical explanations or it could be some paranormal stuff. I don't really have time to type out what happened right now (I had this all written down before, but I can't find it >_<). I will later if anyone's interested.

[Riekie]

wow..Slev...tell us more!! I am very interested in this story of yours..véry interested...please write more of it when you have the time.

[HELLA PINOY]

I wudda crapped a brick if they saw me tryin to spy on them. Sounds like that episode of the simpsons when bart had the scope and thought flanders murdered his wife, lol

[Unicorn]

I believe in ghosts.

1) Saw a white lady in a nightgown once, when I woke up early to revise for an exam. Didn't recognise her at all. She was just standing in the kitchen, and I wasn't scared.

2) One night, I heard heavy footprints going back and forth across my bedroom ceiling several times. I live in a single-storey house. Mum said that it was prolly rats. Uhuh.

3) One of my pet rabbits had just passed away. 2 days later, I was sitting in our storeroom when I heard rustling amongst our old newspapers... exactly as it would sound if he had been playing hide n seek when he was alive. The other rabbits were in the garden.

[Shannon]

Uhm, I don't believe in ghosts, but I've heard that people have seen angels? Or something. I don't have personal experience, so I can't really say anything until I've seen with my own eyes. I'm like Thomas the doubter.

I've seen 'ghosts' in movies though, like I've seen that Nancy Drew movie about one hour ago.

[gab00n]

Yeah, I've had a few encounters with ghosts. There is a female ghost in our house. One night it stroked my foot, I woke up and thought it was a dream but then it did it again. The second time I thought it was a snake so I jumped out of bed but there was nothing there. That same night it grabbed my brothers foot as well.

It has sat beside me on my bed a few times which can be a little scary. I hear it walking in the hallway often and it has also jumped on my moms bed before, my dog came running into my room. It sometimes walks back and forth in the hallway and I have seen a black blob floating over a power adapter once, I should have tried to touch it.

When we first moved into this house there was no paranormal activities, it started after a year for just a few weeks and went away for about another year. It has been back for a few weeks now so it should stop again quite soon. If anyone wants to play a real spirit game that is guaranteed to work let me know, it will also prove the existence of extra dimensions.

[Slev]

wow..Slev...tell us more!! I am very interested in this story of yours..véry interested...please write more of it when you have the time.

Lol, I wrote everything in a notebook when it happened. I'll try to find it or else I'll have to say everything from memory.

Here's some pictures of the house from about a year ago. The construction company never did anything but board up the house. The house looks a ton worse at night :o


http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img37&img=/8/6/22/f_SA400028m_d6eb350.jpg
http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img37&img=/8/6/22/f_SA400027m_d1f767c.jpg

[speedphantom]

All this ghost talk is scaring me ^^;

I've never encountered a ghost so I won't believe it until I do.

Sorta related, lots of supposed alien sightings occur when the electromagnetic field of the earth becomes stronger. It can have the effect of making people hallucinate and see weird things.

[spacecat]

Yeah slev I'd like to hear that also @_@ it sounds really creepy.

gab00n that is amazing that you actually have one in your house! Have you ever tried to take some photos or anything?

I left my video camera in the hall way of a haunted pub one time cos we were working on a film there (in the lobby they have a famous photo of the ghost who haunts the pub). But anyways I left the camera rolling with night vision so all the lights were out. Not 5 mins after I left a bright orb flies down the hall on the video. I dunno what it was but I was amazed I got it on the camera.

[jdm6845]

@slev: I really want to hear the rest of your story! ^___^

@spacecat: That's really cool. Do you still have the footage????

One night it stroked my foot, I woke up and thought it was a dream but then it did it again. The second time I thought it was a snake so I jumped out of bed but there was nothing there. That same night it grabbed my brothers foot as well.
OMG... holy crap. That is seriously freaky. LOL, I don't know how you can still live there, though it's pretty cool. I've always been terribly, terribly afraid of ghosts and the like (for no apparent reason, just being stupid) and one of my worst fears was something sneaking up to the end of my bed and grabbing my feet :(...

Sorta related, lots of supposed alien sightings occur when the electromagnetic field of the earth becomes stronger. It can have the effect of making people hallucinate and see weird things.
I once saw this thing on tv about these scientists who were playing with the effects of electromagnetic energy, and they made this helmet that sent it to certain areas of the brain. People who wore the helmet often reported feeling a 'presence' in the room with them after it was switched on.


There was this girl I worked with who told me that she had an encounter with a demon. She said she woke up in the middle of the night and this animal jumped onto her chest and started tearing at her throat :/... she said she couldn't move or speak or anything for the longest time as it continued. When she finally could move, she started screaming for her mom.

She said that there was no doubt in her mind that it really happened, though I told her that what she had experienced might have actually been sleep paralysis-- that's when most of your motor functions shut off (a normal occurrence when you sleep) while you're still conscious. Hallucinations are fairly common when this happens, though her case was pretty extreme. Some people say that those who claim they've been abducted by aliens are really just experiencing this.

I've never seen a ghost or anything, but I guess that there was this one thing that was a bit odd-- I was lying on my bed, watching tv, when all of a sudden I heard this crashing noise. I looked over to the dresser in my closet and saw that this glass that had been full of polished rocks had randomly shattered. The base of the glass, which had been really quite thick, broke into hundreds of little cubes. A few years later, my dad was reaching into the cupboard, and just as he was about to grab another glass from the same set it too shattered in the same exact way. Maybe it was just a design flaw, but the timing was seriously weird... I mean, it shattered when his fingers were just an inch or so away.

[spacecat]

Yeah I still have the footage in storage, when I get it out I plan to upload it somewhere, I'll keep you posted XD

[Syn]

Some interesting stories here o______O
While I do believe in ghost and spirits (which are two different things for the buddhists), I never had an encounter with something strange. Though I did hear some stories.
-I heard a story of a lama exorcising a lady ghost in a cemetary (lama that I knew; there is roughly 99.99% chance that this really happened). I was already creeped out by cemetaries, needless to say it's still creepy places for me now XD except for the Père Lachaise in Paris, I usually avoid cemetaries.
-I had friends who, during a trip in Normandie (in the North of France) heard weird noises in the hallway during all nights. They were pretty creeped out, especially since it wasn't the first time they had some weird things happening to them.
-same family happened to lose their scissors randomly and never found them again. In Argentina, were they were from, it's a common belief that some kind of spirits like to do this stuff. Even when they moved out, they never found them again.

When I was in 14 years old, I was at a boarding school. We tried to call ghosts during the night (unknowingly of the proctor of course XD) but it never worked. It was also at the same period that I read tons of Stephen King. Then my mother told me that it was a bad idea; mainly because when you try this kind of stuff, buddhists say it's usually not ghost that show up, but evil spirits who are attracted by this kind of stuff. When you are scared etc, it also attracts those spirits who will do whatever they can to get in your way. I immediately stopped reading S. King and doing this stuff altogether XD

And actually, while I think about this, she may be right; I had a classmate when I was 12 who had a lot of beliefs such as something bad will happen on Fridays 13th. And every Friday 13th, something bad happened to her, while I was perfectly fine.

[jdm6845]

When I was in 14 years old, I was at a boarding school. We tried to call ghosts during the night (unknowingly of the proctor of course XD) but it never worked.
LOL, I had an Ouiji board that my sister and I tried to use. We asked it what we were going to be when we grew up-- it said that she was going to be a queen and that I was going to be a "casket deliverer"........... -___- Yep, that sounds about right... not at all off the mark.... :D

We also asked the "ghost" how he died. He said he was murdered with glitter XD.

When you are scared etc, it also attracts those spirits who will do whatever they can to get in your way.
O__O.... dang... I used to be scared a LOT.

[spacecat]

Yeah regarding ouiji boards and such, I learnt very young not to mess with those. A girl in my classes mother was driving me somewhere and she was telling me about a friends daughter who had just been put in a mental health facility. She said they used a ouiji board and after it she claimed a demon was following her. She ended up going insane pretty much. She wasn't lying either that girl really did go in there, wether or not she was really being followed was another case but whenever someone asked me to do those kinds of things with them I sat it out. A demon following me is the last thing I need.

[Syn]

Ahah space, a demon following her? Now that's creepy. But yeah ouji boards or other kind of games like these are not really good... you really don't know what you are summoning in the end. o__o

[jdm6845]

Oh WOW.... :( scary stuff.

I haven't really heard any stories of people running into trouble with those, other than the urban legends, though I've known a lot of people who really really dislike them. It was a bit of a fad in elementary school, but I really didn't use it a whole lot and haven't bothered with them since :p.

[spacecat]

I saw a video on youtube where they filmed strange things happening after using a ouiji board also...though it's youtube so not really a reliable source @_@

[Frosted Heart]

Oh WOW.... :( scary stuff.

I haven't really heard any stories of people running into trouble with those, other than the urban legends, though I've known a lot of people who really really dislike them. It was a bit of a fad in elementary school, but I really didn't use it a whole lot and haven't bothered with them since :p. Hahaha I tried it out in elementary school. But we didn't buy one ... we just made a cheap one out of paper. :p

Took a plain piece of paper, wrote 1-9, A-Z, Yes and No on it, and drew a house in the middle. Placed a coin on the house, and my friends and I placed our fingers on the coin. Then we 'invited' a ghost to come. :) When we were done we asked it to go home, and had the coin go back on the house.

Ah such funny memories. One time we got reaaaaally freaked out when our fingers turned blue, and the ghost said it would follow us forever. But a classmate said if we slapped someone who was born in Oct, it wouldn't follow us. LOL we looked for a classmate born in Oct (basically asking everyone in our grade what their b-day was :D) and when we found our victim, uh, 'saviour', we slapped his back silly. :cool: Of course our fingers just turned blue because we were pressing down on the coin for too long.

Of course I don't believe we actually summoned anything up. For one thing, it could never answer any of our questions correctly. And also I was the one moving the coin most of the time. lol!

Anyone believe in tarot cards? I do a little self-reading sometimes, and it's freaky how I get the same answers for the same questions, no matter how many times I shuffle. (I get different cards but the meanings all end up the same).

[Syn]

Oh, I used to do tarot cards too XD but the thing I was the best at was reading in the tea-leaves. It was just a joke, until I did it to the mother of a friend; she was stunned on how right on spot I was lol. I freaked out and never did it again ^^' (I didn't know her a lot; not enough to guess what I told her).

[Riekie]

wow everyone, such scary and interesting experiencesXD

Ahh Spacecat..please upload when you can...it sure sounds scary but interesting at the same time!

@ Slev: please find your notebook:D I reaaallly wanna know what happened!

about Ouiji boards and turning glass <--literal translation of Glaasje draaien:

A friend of mine has done it several times when she was young and she had experienced some very wacky stuff! right now she does not want to do it anymore because she's scared of what might happen to her.

once she 'played' with the ouiji board (with a friend) and there came a man who said that she was going to get a very dangerous disease and that she would die from it. he also followed her around for several weeks.

All I know is that I am too scared of playing such scary and possibly dangerous games. I am a real coward when it comes to ghosts and demons and stuff.

One time I was watching a film in which they were playin with the Ouiji board and suddenly the fire demon came and burned all of his victims. I didn't believe one thing of it but my mom who doesn't believe in ghosts and such because of our beliefs said that he really exists..now that freaked me out!

[Slev]

Alright, I'll try to tell it from memory. :p

Brian and I decide to go into the house. Both of us packed two flashlights each and head over to the door leading into the garage. The rock in front of the door is pretty big; about 3 feet by 3 feet. We move it enough to allow us to head inside. The door kind of slowly shuts behind us, but it was windy outside so that wasn't really a big deal.

There wasn't really anything in the garage. There was only a bunch of old furnature and some car parts that look like they would never work again. As we begin moving into the main house I start noticing some weird shadows and shapes out of the corner of my eye. I pass it off as my mind tricking me, but Brian mentions that he is seeing the same thing so I begin to worry.

One of the first things we encounter is a staircase leading down to the basement. When we are halfway down the staircase the door slams shut in a way that only a person can make it slam. That was the last we could handle, so we run as fast as we can back out the way we came. When we get to the garage door we try our best to open it, but it feels like the door is being pushed against. It finally opens and we run home.

We go around to the back of the house a couple days later. There's this glass sliding door with a big hole in the middle of it and a little blood on the cement next to it. As we are walking back around to the front side we notice that there are bloodstains on a window.

I've always tried to give logical explanations for all this stuff.
1. The shadows and shapes were tricks of light. Problem is that our flashlights were not on at that time so I have no idea what the source was.
2. The next time we go into the house we encounter a homeless guy in the basement. He could have been living down there, but the way he was acting makes me unsure of that.
3. It was windy, but I'm not sure if it was windy enough to make it so two people couldn't open a door. It's possible we were in too much of a panic to open the door properly.

We go back inside the house three more times. I would say this one was the least creepy.

[HELLA PINOY]

Its like an ongoing episode of Gooebumps or Are You Afraid Of the Dark, lmao. Thre was prob a strong gust of wind and thats prob why you couldnt get the door open right away. As far as the shadows...could have been limbs blowing outside. The basement door slamming could have the homeless man and he might have hid after he slammed the door...

[gab00n]

I've never tried taking photos or videos as I am lazy and don't carry a camera around with me. Besides the black blob and some tiny orbs I haven't seen an actual person or anything like that. If the activity spikes again I'll try get some evidence since I'm on vacation and have nothing better to do.

I have never played those board games but have participated in some other activities. Spirits don't often tell the truth, they lie and will kick your ass if you disrespect them. I would love to have some demon monster things following me around, that would be awesome. I'll learn to manipulate them and use them as personal bodyguards.

I have had sleep paralysis twice and saw things. They say you are awake but still dreaming but I'll tell you what I saw anyway. Both times I was sleeping on my back during the day in my brothers room as someone was visiting us. The first time I saw a person hiding in the closet, he seemed scared of me. I tried to shout at him but it was as if I was in a vacuum and no sound came out. I could only move my head around.

The second time I was woken by some devil like thing pulling at my chest. It was a skinny blood red thing but I couldn't see its face for some reason and again no sound came out of my mouth. When it pulled at my chest I resisted and felt an incredible feeling similar to adrenaline. It gave up and I fell back to sleep, it did this two more times with me falling back to sleep both times. When this was happening I noticed a spear like thing stabbed in my left shoulder.

I was really impressed when I woke up sometime later, if it was a dream then I would have liked to have remembered the full version. I hardly ever remember dreams so it is like I never have them. During sleep paralysis you are definitely awake so if anyone knows how to bring this about more often let me know as it is really exciting. I'll try sleeping in my brothers room again.

[Unicorn]

Slev, wow, you dared to go back to the house 3 more times? I'd have fled and never come back.

Anyone believe in tarot cards?

I do, but have never had a reading done for me. A friend of mine does readings from newly-opened packs of playing cards, she did one for me but I forgot what it said for me. Friend says she doesn't do it that often because she gets nightmares when she sleeps.

[Llama]

I believe in tarot cards but I would never try it or try doing it because the Catholic Church says that these kind of things could be involving demons without you realizing it. Maybe that's why she's having nightmares. I'd advise her not to do it anymore.

[Frosted Heart]

Well I think it's fine, as long as you don't take them seriously. The answers they give you are sometimes wrong, and of course you can always change your outcome by changing who you are right now. :) Tea leaf reading ... I can never get them right. ^^;; I have zero luck with those.

But the sleep paralysis one is kind of freaky. o_O That one I'd never wish to have!

Light orbs, I've heard on TV that most of them are just dust motes reflecting light. And the nightmares probably stem from being freaked out after reading the cards. Your mental state before you sleep can affect what kind of dreams you have, or if you dream at all.

[Llama]

I'll stay on the safe side and not get involved with these things.

[spacecat]

Yeah orbs can be dust or insects but there are ways of figuring out what they are and many are unexplained. And wow Slev I'm amazed you went back also :p

Gab00n: that devil thing sounds totally freaky. Black blobs are usually called shadow ghosts and I've seen photo's of them before so if you can try take one that would be awesome xD So you welcome this stuff eh? They reckon the only way to really see them properly is to invite them and welcome them so who knows maybe it's why you see them?

[Slev]

I'm surprised I went back myself.

The creepiest things about that house wasn't really the paranormal stuff, it was what the family left behind. When we went to the room where the family was when we initially spied on them, the room was literally filled with pentagrams on the floor with what looked like blood on them. I wouldn't know if it was or not, as I never wanted to get that close.

We also found a note near the pentagram room that said:

"Question: What is your name?
Answer: I don't have one.
Question: Who were you before you died?
Answer: Scott Fletcher
Question:Are you good or evil?
Answer: Evil.
Question: Tell us something about yourself.
Answer: I moved into your house. Leave now."

Joke or not, that scared the hell out of me. I kind of wish I had brought a camera back then, but I didn't have one, and there's absolutely no way I'm ever going in there again. :X

[Syn]

Lol that's scary Slev o_____O but didn't they want to build a new building where the house was?

[spacecat]

Yikes slev @_@ that would have had me running for the hills. It reminds me at a neighbours once I helped them pull up their old carpet and underneathe we found giant blood stains on a carpet under that one. It was really weird and creepy. Nothing paranormal but jeez lots of blood.

[Slev]

Lol that's scary Slev o_____O but didn't they want to build a new building where the house was?

That's what they said, but all they ever did was board up the windows and doors. The sign about the construction isn't there anymore as well.

Looking back, I should have probably told the police. I think we were scared of getting into trouble for essentially breaking and entering, though. :O

[Syn]

Ahah yeah I guess so but still o_____O it's creepy. I wonder why they don't want to build anything anymore... bad luck pursuing them? XD

[Slev]

Well, the day they boarded everything up they also removed the sign. After they did all that we went to the backyard and saw that the blood on the cement had been washed off. That also manages to creep me out a little.

People still ask Brian and me if we will take them in there. They say I'm too old to be afraid of it, but there's no way I'm going back in. O_O

[Syn]

Ahahah yeah I wouldn't want to go in there either o_____O it would creep me out way too much. oO

[Frosted Heart]

LOL I doubt the police would do anything about it. XD

Since that family owned the house, they could do whatever they want in it, and if it was blood, I'd bet that it was probably some animal (chicken, goat, etc.). But yeah, I wouldn't step into that house again either. Never know what might follow you. @_@

[badgercoon]

Oh this sounds like it'll be my favourite thread. (unfortunately I'm easily suckered into scaring myself) But wow those are some creepy stories. @_@

My lot of guys and I often go ghost hunting in our area, driving around and exploring.

Freaky thing around October we were wandering this area where a church and graveyard used to be (church and headstones to the graves were moved but the bodies is lost to urban legend), and while we were walking up the hill first time at night, I saw a huge softball sized orange orb go past my leg. Freaked me the crap out. And then another time we were there the buch of us were freaked out by a screaming yelp sound. Probably a raccoon. XD

Then they also found this bridge in the same area where it would effect the car engine. @_@ That whole area would drop a few degrees!

And our most recent adventure was til 5 in the bloody morning where we went to Ghettysburg PA. We were driving through one of the roads on the original battlefields at 1 in the morning. One guy heard a horse whinny, another heard hooves, and then the lot of us saw this big moving shadow in the distance that seemed to be coming towards us and not a tree. Apparently the guys said it looked like a man on a horse. I just saw the shadow moving fast/thrashing around.

I also lived in a college/uni dormitory that was haunted. People apparently saw things and we had something playing dingdong ditch with my wireless doorbell. ...And made a bottle of vitamins fly off the top of the fridge.

[Slev]

Well, if you enjoy paranormal stuff you might like this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=deoJUBW9CI8

It's kind of freaky, even though I bet at least some of it is fake. :>

Note to myself: don't watch things like this at 2:30 a.m.

[Adam]

No. To quote Simone de Beauvoir:

"Representation of the world, like the world itself, is the work of men; they describe it from their own point of view, which they confuse with the absolute truth."

[Kojy]

Argh i hate this ghost thing xD, still sometimes my mind trick me off like there was presence next to me, that's frightning O_O

[spacecat]

Well, if you enjoy paranormal stuff you might like this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=deoJUBW9CI8

It's kind of freaky, even though I bet at least some of it is fake. :>

Note to myself: don't watch things like this at 2:30 a.m.
Haha yeah it's the one I saw also xD And yeah I watched it just before going to bed...good idea..NOT! I think some of it is fake but some are pretty hard to explain. In one the camera flips around and you can see it in the mirror, it could be on string but, very hard to trick anyways. That one of the guy in the kitchen where stuff starts flying about seems the most real to me I think. He lasted a bit longer than I probably would have. It all reminds me of poltergeist so much xD

Badgercoon: haha good to see other people go out and do these things, I thought me and my friends were just weird. The battle area sounds freaky :/ and an orange orb...yikes lol.

[Gintoki]

Well, if you enjoy paranormal stuff you might like this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=deoJUBW9CI8

It's kind of freaky, even though I bet at least some of it is fake. :>

Note to myself: don't watch things like this at 2:30 a.m.

Oh man, it's 4pm here and it gives me the shaves, really frightening

[Ileenka]

I've only had one experience with the supernatural. >_>

About two years ago my friend and I went out for dinner. We returned to our apartment at around 9pm and we had to go through this playground to get to our block. My unit's balcony was facing this playground, and my friend asked me if my housemates were home. I said they weren't, and I cast a look at my balcony (which was located on the second floor) to check if the lights inside my apartment are on. And I saw (or I thought I saw) my housemate, Erin hanging out her laundry. Well she had near-waist-long hair and was wearing her usual white night gown so I didn't think much of it, and I noted to my friend, "Seems like my housemate is back after all." My friend was like, "Huh? How do you know?" And I remember replying, "Well, that's her on the balcony hanging out her laundry." But my friend said, "I don't see her."

I thought maybe well, it was too dark for my friend to see anything so I just let the matter drop anyway. It wasn't a big deal.

I returned to my apartment and nobody was home. There wasn't any done laundry on the balcony either, so I thought Erin must have been collected them and went out just as I was coming in from the other lift. It could happen. I waited for her to come back and asked her about it, but she said she hasn't been home since 1pm that afternoon because she went for a medical checkup at the doctor's.

Meh. Then Erin told me a week later after her medical report was out, and that she was diagnosed with kidney cancer the day she went to the doctor's.. which was the day I supposed 'saw' her on the balcony. She packed her bags for home and stopped school to seek medical attention after a week or so, but her cancer was already pretty advanced and she passed away a year later. T-T She was only 22 years old. She was one of my closest friends in university and I'm very shaken by this, she always took care of me like an older sister so that experience on what I saw on the balcony will stay in my memory forever. >_>

[Annie]

OMG Justine, I'm so sorry for what happen to your friend. That is really shocking ;___;

And this is a scary thread, why am I reading it all alone at 3.30 am T__T

[Syn]

OMG Justine, that's sad T_T Sometimes I guess we get weird premonitions.
I remember, I was in my last year of highschool; my mother was back home, and she told me it was really dark because of the clouds (I was at a boarding school, so I wasn't there at that time). She thought 'bad omen', finished her day and went to sleep. And, during her sleep, she dreamt of her oldest brother; she was showing him a path and told him it was 'that way' before saying goodbye to him... She woke up very unsettled by this dream and a few hours later, she came to my school to fetch me because he was dead and we needed to make a 600km trip to go to his funerals. T_T

[Ileenka]

Yes, Annie, she's so young, although three years older than me at the time, having cancer at age 20-21 is really just too unfair. I feel like crying whenever I think of her. But thanks for being a sweetheart.

And wow Syn T_T, that's really creepy and sad. I hope I won't have these types of premonitions anymore, one could never forget them in their lifetimes. >_>

[Syn]

Speaking of ghosts, I remember now that the house where I went for my summer vacations in 91 was haunted. While nothing happened while we were there (maybe too many people? We were 10/15 to live there at that time), a couple of friends came back a few years laters.
They first heard creepy stories about a ghost standing in front of the house but brushed them off. After all, the house was just a house for vacations so... but once they got there, they could tell that the atmosphere did really change. My friend, who is really perceptive, was really creeped out. She felt something brushing her a couple of time and they both saw the ghost once. It didn't do any scary stuff though, so I guess that's why, although they were creeped out, they stayed until the end.

[Annie]

Since I'm already here might as well tell what happened to me five years ago.

My family moved to this new house and I got my own room. It was the first night I spend in that house. So that night around 2 am I was really sleepy so I turned off the light getting ready to go to bed. Just about to sleep when I 'felt' a person staring at me so I opened my eyes. And I saw this woman looked down at me. Since I was so sleepy I thought she was my mom then seconds later I realised I locked the door, no way my mom could come in. So I opened my eyes again to look at her and I still see her. She wouldn't move or go away. So I got up and she moved from the bed to the door but still kept looking at me. I looked at her for like a minute bcause I was so shock before switched on the light and she was gone. That night I couldn't sleep at all >_>

[Slev]

In one the camera flips around and you can see it in the mirror, it could be on string but, very hard to trick anyways. That one of the guy in the kitchen where stuff starts flying about seems the most real to me I think. He lasted a bit longer than I probably would have. It all reminds me of poltergeist so much xD

Yea, well the ghosts look like CGI to me. The demon child seems fake because he closed the door, making me think someone on the other side of the door moved the 'demon.' Plus, the guy filming has the slowest reaction time in the world. :O

I'm still freaked at the bleeding Jesus picture. Mainly because it's the freakiest picture of Jesus ever even without the blood.

T-T She was only 22 years old. She was one of my closest friends in university and I'm very shaken by this, she always took care of me like an older sister so that experience on what I saw on the balcony will stay in my memory forever. >_>

That's depressing v_v, I'm sorry.

That's a weird premonition, I can't really think of how it can connect to what happened.

My family moved to this new house and I got my own room. It was the first night I spend in that house. So that night around 2 am I was really sleepy so I turned off the light getting ready to go to bed. Just about to sleep when I 'felt' a person staring at me so I opened my eyes. And I saw this woman looked down at me. Since I was so sleepy I thought she was my mom then seconds later I realised I locked the door, no way my mom could come in. So I opened my eyes again to look at her and I still see her. She wouldn't move or go away. So I got up and she moved from the bed to the door but still kept looking at me. I looked at her for like a minute bcause I was so shock before switched on the light and she was gone. That night I couldn't sleep at all >_>

O_o I don't think I would be able to sleep ever again.

This kind of reminds me of an old myth at my university. About 30 years ago a girl pulling an all nighter in the school library fell from the third floor and died on impact. Ever since then the library has been closed late at night. Now there's this myth that if you spend the entire night inside of the library she will visit you the every night after and never let you sleep. There was a girl a couple years ago who actually did spend the night there. Afterwards she went to a psychiatrist, saying that a girl spirit wouldn't stop staring at her as she tried to sleep. A couple days later she committed suicide.

[Riekie]

I am sorry Ileenka..that's a very sad story T_T

Whoah...reading all these posts is making me feel abit iffy *...* I am a bit scared now lying in bed at 00:30...scary!

and thanks for the links you guys...sounds interesting although not at 00:30 AM:D I think I will check it out in the morning..when there's real light and allXD

[nightshift]

lol all you guys are weenies for being afraid of ghosts with all your easily-explained-by-coincidence-or-science stories.

Yeah, I believe in ghosts. But aside from heart attacks from having the piss scared out of you, I always felt that ghosts couldn't do much harm to people. More like GTFO out of my house, I'm paying the damn rent, you're already dead, go to hell already...

[speedphantom]

Haha well put shifty:p

I used to be buddhist some years ago and they say there are meant to be all kinds of beings you can't see around you. I'm not really buddhist anymore but I took all the good things from it.

To me, no matter how many other people have experienced sightings of ghosts, aliens and other supernatural things, if I haven't seen it with my own eyes they don't exist. Seeing is believing;)

[Byakuya]

Yes I do :3

[Teishu Soukutsu]

Never seen, don't belive..

Although me and my bro did see a guy with a really huge bag on his back sneaking from tree to tree from our window at night. we were like 4-7.
Anyway our mom scared us with stupid stories of da candy men and bagmen n all sorts of stuff.. the candyman was cool he gave all the kids sweets O_o no kinky stuff, really.

Every time my uncle gets drunk he retells this story of him seeing an ufo XD
he says he returned from his mothers workplace(she used to milk cows) and saw an old old man with a really long bear standing next to a tree and then suddenly wham all sorts of lights n stuff flashing. This was like 24 years ago Estonia was occupied by Russia at that time.

>_> Step dad used to make snorting sounds behind the door when me n all my cousins were at our country place playing toy throwing wars upstairs in the sleeping rooms. plus he scratched the door..-_- what a dumb***...

don't believe in ghosts

[Zelos]

i think ghosts is a vague enough term for me to say i believe :D i at least believe in spirits as im pretty sure i have/had one following me since September. i went on a two-day trip last September just around the desert a little and i experienced so many weird feelings o_O its really hard to explain most of them... but the creepiest part was when we were at Crack-in-the-Ground down south of Newberry. its a pretty remote spot :P nearest McDonald's is probably no less than 2 hours drive away and you need to drive on a dirt road to get there. anyways, while i was inside the crack, i heard a voice that started just yelling "Get out! Get out!" over and over @_@ and it was really creepy. the person i was with that day didnt seem to hear it at all so instead of looking like a total freak, i just nudged her and said it was time to go XD and the voice kept repeating itself over and over again! i would describe it as a male, in his 20s. not too young but not too old, either XP.

the really creepy part was when i rounded a corner and saw a snake move behind a rock. i literally lept 10 feet in the air cause i thought maybe it was a rattlesnake! with a voice talking to me like that, i was definitely more jumpy than i usually am. when i puckered up enough courage to look around the corner (theres only one way out of the crack), i saw it was just a slider (a common non-venomous snake) so i just continued my way out.

after getting out of the crack, i was still hearing the voice >.< and we passed by some cougar tracks on the way out at the base of a nearby tree. the tracks were really deep and pointed towards the tree as if a cougar had exerted pressure to jump up into the tree. i looked up into the shadows of the tree and didnt see anything, so we kept on going with our hike back to the car.

about 50 yards from the car, we passed by the biggest turd ive ever seen O_O i dunno what left it there... something big >_> and it was brown so i assumed whatever left it was NOT a vegetarian. with the voice still in my head, i rushed to the car and then we were off. about a mile of driving, the voice vanished completely.

several hours later, on the long road home, i felt a huge amount of depression fall on me for no real reason that i could tell. i just wanted to cry but i couldnt seem to think of any reasonable reason for it. after getting home, i talked to an online friend about this (hes a very spiritual person and i never really was before my trip XP) and he said that it was good i had listened to the voice because there might have been some real big danger there. he also said that the major depression i got a few hours after the fact was a common thing after someone had a near-death experience O_O so ya, i was pretty freaked out XP

ever since, ive had quite a few "encounters" with the spirit i believe looked out for me last September. though ive never actually seen him, ive felt him and heard him. he feels like someone i had known my whole life 8D like a best friend type of person. im pretty sure hes the friendly kind of spirit, if he exists at all anyways. this could have all just been in my head >.< human minds are weird things so you never know 8D id like to believe he exists, though. cant prove he exists but it also doesnt do me any harm to believe in him, so why not?

[Geta Boshi]

I had some weird experiences so yeah I do believe in Ghost ^__^

[Teishu Soukutsu]

i think ghosts is a vague enough term for me to say i believe :D i at least believe in spirits as im pretty sure i have/had one following me since September. i went on a two-day trip last September just around the desert a little and i experienced so many weird feelings o_O its really hard to explain most of them... but the creepiest part was when we were at Crack-in-the-Ground down south of Newberry. its a pretty remote spot :P nearest McDonald's is probably no less than 2 hours drive away and you need to drive on a dirt road to get there. anyways, while i was inside the crack, i heard a voice that started just yelling "Get out! Get out!" over and over @_@ and it was really creepy. the person i was with that day didnt seem to hear it at all so instead of looking like a total freak, i just nudged her and said it was time to go XD and the voice kept repeating itself over and over again! i would describe it as a male, in his 20s. not too young but not too old, either XP.

the really creepy part was when i rounded a corner and saw a snake move behind a rock. i literally lept 10 feet in the air cause i thought maybe it was a rattlesnake! with a voice talking to me like that, i was definitely more jumpy than i usually am. when i puckered up enough courage to look around the corner (theres only one way out of the crack), i saw it was just a slider (a common non-venomous snake) so i just continued my way out.

after getting out of the crack, i was still hearing the voice >.< and we passed by some cougar tracks on the way out at the base of a nearby tree. the tracks were really deep and pointed towards the tree as if a cougar had exerted pressure to jump up into the tree. i looked up into the shadows of the tree and didnt see anything, so we kept on going with our hike back to the car.

about 50 yards from the car, we passed by the biggest turd ive ever seen O_O i dunno what left it there... something big >_> and it was brown so i assumed whatever left it was NOT a vegetarian. with the voice still in my head, i rushed to the car and then we were off. about a mile of driving, the voice vanished completely.

several hours later, on the long road home, i felt a huge amount of depression fall on me for no real reason that i could tell. i just wanted to cry but i couldnt seem to think of any reasonable reason for it. after getting home, i talked to an online friend about this (hes a very spiritual person and i never really was before my trip XP) and he said that it was good i had listened to the voice because there might have been some real big danger there. he also said that the major depression i got a few hours after the fact was a common thing after someone had a near-death experience O_O so ya, i was pretty freaked out XP

ever since, ive had quite a few "encounters" with the spirit i believe looked out for me last September. though ive never actually seen him, ive felt him and heard him. he feels like someone i had known my whole life 8D like a best friend type of person. im pretty sure hes the friendly kind of spirit, if he exists at all anyways. this could have all just been in my head >.< human minds are weird things so you never know 8D id like to believe he exists, though. cant prove he exists but it also doesnt do me any harm to believe in him, so why not?


lmao probs some song coming from the radio of the car or something.. ''Get out get out.. Nanananananana get out get out... nananana'' XD All i can say is weird stuff happens to optimistic ppl

[Zelos]

lmao probs some song coming from the radio of the car or something.. ''Get out get out.. Nanananananana get out get out... nananana'' XD All i can say is weird stuff happens to optimistic ppl

lol, the car was a bit far away and the radio wasnt even on >.< i think this stuff only happens to optimistic and/or crazy people XD or ones wanting attention. heh, i could be any of those or all three >.<

[Sola]

I believe in God. So I believe there is a Heaven and Hell and demons and angels.

[juunana]

I have believed in ghosts since I was little. A few things happened that made me. Firstly when I was about 8 I saw a hand holding a saw cutting a hole in the roof. I shook my head and thought I was imagining it but no matter what I did it was still there. I ran in and got mum and grandma. It was gone of course when they came out to look. Mum said it was probably the cat...yeh mum...right. The next thing happened when I was about 14. I was home from school in bed (faking I was sick XD) and I heard a man yelling. The sound went around the wall and stopped behind my head. I was freaked out so I tried to get up and get out of my room but something held me down. This happened three times but the second time it was a chainsaw I could hear on the walls. Third time I broke through whatever was holding me down and went and called mum who was at work. Nothing has happened since but I later met someone that had a similar experience which was really weird. I have worked on ghost hunts before and we never find anything ><. I think there is a lot of fake ghost stuff out there which ruins peoples chances of an open mind about it all.

[Mz D]

Yes, I've had too many weird experiences to doubt it. It could just be my overactive imagination but I think there are spirits that can be trapped or decide to stay in our world.

[Gisella]

I had freaky ghost-like experiences before such as the door slamming by itself and the T.V. going on/off.

But after watching Casper the friendly ghost, it was all good.

[Rain]

I don't believe in ghosts but if I'm alone at night I'm still afraid of them:D

[Axie]

I don't believe in them, or at least I try not to. I've always been afraid of the dark. XD

There are some incidents that I don't know how to take... maybe those times were just my overactive imagination.

For example, sometimes I hear someone breathing in the back of my room...and this other time when I turned off the light to go to bed, I suddenly saw an outline of a large man that was right in front of me. UH I hate night time... I'm such a kid. T_T

[Rain]

@Axie- i'm afraid of the dark too:eek:

[Kuchappy]

No way, their not true. Although many experts says they exists.

[Riekie]

Woah...that's scary Axie! I used to be afraid as well (when I the attic was my bedroom)...gah...those were some scary times..

[StarryInoueSky]

I didn't believe in them and after what happened to me... I both believe and don't believe.

Last week, I came back from Sacramento and was in my bed sleeping and I suddenly woke up because I felt someone was behind me. The hairs on the back of my neck were standing on end and I could feel that someone was behind me. A bit scared, I began to chant a few sayings that my family has told me to say in situations like that. So I began chanting and I hear a static noise inside my head and the more I continue to say the saying, the louder and faster the noise got. So I stopped talking and then I feel a hand pressed against my arm and my whole arm went tingly and the hairs on my arm all went on end. By now, I'm freaking out but I can't seem to scream or do anything than sit up and get off my bed. I went to sleep on the couch and when I sat on it, the noise stopped and everything felt normal again.

After that, I do believe there are spirits out there but at the same time I'm wondering if it was a dream or not... even though I was fully awake.

[Velius]

I have had night like that Starry. Most of the time I think it's all in my head. I have 'felt' something in rooms with me before, but I never have actually seen anything. I am one of those that would have to see something before I believe it, when it comes to this plain of existence that is.

[munga_monkey]

I heard this story from my cousins girlfriend. At one stage when she was in her old house she played the song Haunted by Evanecence and then all her furniture in the room started to move around like it was being picked up and stuff.
I don't know if I believe in ghosts or not but I remember turning the basement light off and when came back into the one door basement the light had been switched on again. (No one ever goes down there so yer little freaky)

[Jenni]

I believe in them. I've never had a personal experience, but they abound in the family. My Great-Grandmother has been seen by 4 separate members of the family, two of them at the same moment. The Church wanted them to try to recreate the experience so they could document it in Rome. They said no.

My Grandmother has also seen other apparitions, and apparently, a lady veiled in all black manifested herself warning my Great-Great Grandmother to leave right before her son was murdered by a friend of the family. So yep, I believe.

[NightMare]

No they don't exist so......I don't believe!

[Flying Banana]

yes...i'm scared of them O___O i've seen one in a hotel too in the balcony ;__; since i was younger like around 4-5 i came closer like those stupid movie people o.o and then my grandma came in -__-

[So-Dee-Lish-Us]

No..
But when no one was home,
a picture of my mom's wedding was drawn over with crayon. o_o
It's scary.

[Kristen]

I believe in them... because I seen one with my own eyes when I was younger. I'm afraid of them. x____x!!

[Rain]

Although I don't believe in them (not one bit) i'm still afraid of them. It doesn't make any sense and I can't explain it.

[Shadoblak]

Although I don't believe in them (not one bit) i'm still afraid of them. It doesn't make any sense and I can't explain it.

Maybe because you know they're there but think of you ignore them they'll go away!
SPIRITS ARE ALWAYS WITH YOU!!!!!!!! BOHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!


Anyway, yeah i believe in them, but they arent really scary..I also like watching those "Haunted whatever" shows....its interesting

[Zelos]

if i saw a ghost, id probably stare at it a while. i dont think id be as much afraid as i would be puzzled.

[negativzero]

If I see a glass floating across the room, then maybe...
I've heard many stories about encounters in the army camps when I was back in the army 2 years ago. Seems like all army camps here are like super haunted.

[ForteAnly]

I don't believe in ghosts at least until I see one. In my family they believe theres a ghost in almost every house they visit. If somethings wrong they think it haunted or that a ghost is causing it.

[Shadoblak]

Well ya never know...the spirits are always with you....Bohahahahahaha and all.....

But really, there isnt much to disprove it and I've witnessed some odd things

[Flying Banana]

No..
But when no one was home,
a picture of my mom's wedding was drawn over with crayon. o_o
It's scary.

really? you never told me that O.o i don't wanna go over your house now >__>

[So-Dee-Lish-Us]

xD
It's okay.
It happened years ago. c:
If you wanted to come over my house..
What would you do? T_0

[Flying Banana]

xD
It's okay.
It happened years ago. c:
If you wanted to come over my house..
What would you do? T_0
i would talk to you..?
because i get bored here -__- i'm, coming over Monica's house sometime =D

[So-Dee-Lish-Us]

EDITED
Let's continue this in the chat thread. >.>;;

Uuuh, yeah ... let's not go there. =x

[Flying Banana]

EDITED
Let's continue this in the chat thread. >.>;;

OoO
...
i might move to a house finally..it's actually my sister's bestfriend's house...she's moving so she's offering the house..but the thing is, it has a lot of Ghosts o.o

[Bleu]

Hollywood has made fortunes over movies about ghosts, such titles like poltergeist, ghostbusters, and others have gave us an image of ghosts, and even the cute little casper, too.

The idea of ghosts/spirits branches far away from hollywood. There are scientists who take the study of ghosts and make it a lifestyle, modern day ghostbusters try to exorcise supposed "haunted houses". The Discovery Channel has also made a show about Ghosts and peoples stories, "A Haunting".

Science has become very important in the study of ghosts. EVP, (electonic voice phenonom), and dowsing rods are commonly used in studies. Photographs and photos have been taken of supposed ghosts, but not many have been reconized as a plausible case.. as long as the idea of ghosts exist, there will be people trying to fool us.

The question is, where do we draw the line between what is real, and what is imaginary?

There are usually 3 types of people:

- The Believers,
- The Non-Believers
and the ones who believe that ghosts could exist, but until they've seen them with their own eyes, they dont exist.

In this thread, we will take a scientific and religous approach and try to decide whether or not these otherwordly beings exist. Keep in mind that even if you are not a believer, comming here because it is a debate thread and saying "that couldnt be true because...." wont be accepted. Seeing is believing. Debate the history of ghosts in different cultures around the world, from as far back in history as you can.

For example, try to look up ghosts in the history of chinese culture, japanese culture, european culture, african culture, ect ect. and see if we can find any trends. Any information you know off hand or have looked up would be usefull. If you have experienced any ghostly encounters, please share with us. When you share please specify the type of day, the weather, your mood, and where it happened if you can.

COMMENCE! LOL.

Below is a quote from Vizard_King that can help us understand types of hauntings.

"Intelligent or Traditional Hauntings
This type of haunting is what most people think of when they hear the word ghost. Unfortunately these types of hauntings are very rare. An intelligent or traditional ghost is kind of like Casper in the sense that they interact with people. The most common belief is that the ghost is connected to the site or people in some way.

Some reasons the ghost may be tied to the site or people:

1.Died as a result of a traumatic event, murder, car accident, etc.
2.Due to unfinished business.
3.The spirit may have died suddenly and not realized he/she died.
4.The living loved ones are so emotionally distraught they can’t let go.
5.The spirit is emotionally connected to their loved ones.
6.They cannot rest due to an injustice done to them.
7.Fear of the other side or judgment
These ghosts are generally associated with physical activity like slamming, opening, closing, unlocking doors and windows, voices, and sounds. A strong presence, a scent, or touch may be experienced. People rarely see a manifestation of the ghost in the form of an apparition or mist.



Residual Haunting
A residual haunt is believed to be activity of reoccurring or traumatic actions from past events that leave an imprint on the environment.

This type is probably the most common type of haunting. Because its' characteristics are similar to the intelligent haunting, people often mistake it for an intelligent/traditional haunting. Like intelligent haunts, some examples of activity are phantom footsteps, sounds, images, and scents. One major difference between this haunting and the intelligent/traditional haunting, is that this type of haunting is not considered to be that of a ghost, and there is no interaction with the living.

It is believed that this activity is the dissipation of stored energy from the site. The theory is the energy is stored or absorbed by the site due to repetitive or traumatic events of the energy expended while performing such actions. Similar to a tape player, the energy is stored in the magnetic field of the environment. Over time the energy builds up and is discharged showing a replay of the event, and then the cycle starts again. Some suggest that atmospheric conditions such as storms may initiate the playback. There is also a quantum physics theory that relates the energy as light particles that are dormant until they are stimulated by an outside variable under the proper conditions. Researchers have observed that the energy tends to diminish over periods of time until eventually it is either exhausted, or the level is so low that it is not experienced again.


And the ever famous Polterguist Hauntings. You can guess what Spirits do durring this Haunting. Most of the time they just mess around with objects but sometimes they are what are sometimes called "Demon" spirits. These spirits attack the living for some reason or another. From as simple as a push to Scratches and causing the person actual harm"

[Frosted Heart]

There's a thread in Social General about ghostly encounters you've had right here (http://bleachasylum.com/showthread.php?t=196). I won't merge the two since this thread debates the existence of ghosts. So please, if you post here, don't just tell us what spooky things have happened to you; actually discuss why you believe/don't believe/are not sure about the supernatural. :)

[Bleu]

Didnt know about that thread. Yes, please everyone just dont tell spooky stories ^-^ Well you can, but be scientific about it and be open-minded about the situation, people are allowed to discuss about what might have caused your encounter :)

Id like to start off my talkin with a personal experience that i had.

Time: 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning
Place: My room, above the thames, london a few years back. Old old house, many families lived in it before, about 30 rooms.
Weather: Gloomy, rainy. typical european weather.
Mood: Tired, startled.

This is one of my recent encounters, i havent experienced much since i moved to france.. I was sleeping and i suddenly awoke, i really dont know how., but it creeped me out. I usually never wake up, but this night i did and it was an eye opener. On my entire bedsheet was a green aura just slowing creeping its way up to me. I kinda felt suffocated in a way. I ran out of my room and slept in the den with the tv blaring.

Though i feel it to be a genuine experience, The green glow could have been reflected street lights through the window glass. I did look to see if something was reflecting, but i couldnt see anything. The suffocating feeling i felt could have been just my reaction to it since i was barely awake and very suprised. Since the house was very old it could be possible that something did not want me there, as 'home is where the heart is' and people grow connections with their home, as it is a santuary. It is also possible that my eyes could have fooled me, since i do need glasses and i cant see well, being awaken so suddenly like that could have made me dizzy and halucinate.

[Vizard_King]

As A Paranormal Investigator Of course I think Spirits Exist.
Kind of hard not to think they Exist.
I myself have had a Paranormal experiance.
One that scared me so damn much I wanted to know more.
I am very open minded when it comes to this. I know that many of the so called "Paranormal" Activity is just things that happen normaly, but some things can't be explained.
I've seen it.
I like the fact that The Atlantic Paranormal Society ,the guys from the Scifi show Ghost Hunters, work at the same angle I do and they have found alot of good evidence. And they try to disprove it but cannot.
Evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7C7WlYCZGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDSZkzRuQSA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2oTGk8jvuw
I would LOVE for someone to disprove the lighthouse evidence!
Get this:
The lighthouse has Motion Sensor Lights near the top where the the camera is pointing at. If anyone was up there than they would trigger the lights.
Check This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ZOBMrREJ0
Watch Close.

[earthforge]

I don't think they exist. At least if ghosts are evil, I don't think they exist. But if they are peaceful and invisible, than yes.

This is because why would a ghost interfere if they're supposed to be invisible to all? It kinda makes no sense.

Vizard_king: Technical anomaly. Happens. Sometimes my lamp in the living room flickers from a lower setting to a higher setting (3 settings: a low-power, a high power, and an off setting.) But that's only because it's getting old. Probably that's the lighthouse issue.

Do Not Neg Rep me on this post!!!!!!!!!!

[Bleu]

Wow! Never heard of that show, thanks for posting about it. apparently from the youtube comments, alot of their episodes dont have any encounters, but the ones that do are supposd to be good. my aunt lives in springfield, mass, and her house is pretty haunted, i last visited there about 5 years ago. maybe its an area thing. i am going to look more up on that city to see if i can find alot of things about it. that thermal video is very good. you can see the outlines of his legs, and thats just very hard to fake.

thats really amazing. im going to look up more about the show and the cast.

earth: of course nobody is going to neg rep you. if they do, then report it. this topic is for all opinions and to discuss possible theroies and the hard evidence behind it all to prove or disprove.

[Vizard_King]

I don't think they exist. At least if ghosts are evil, I don't think they exist. But if they are peaceful and invisible, than yes.

This is because why would a ghost interfere if they're supposed to be invisible to all? It kinda makes no sense.

Vizard_king: Technical anomaly. Happens. Sometimes my lamp in the living room flickers from a lower setting to a higher setting (3 settings: a low-power, a high power, and an off setting.) But that's only because it's getting old. Probably that's the lighthouse issue.

Do Not Neg Rep me on this post!!!!!!!!!!

A valid observation, but as Jason and Grant were chasing the apparitions the Sensor kicked the lights on as they passed.
And how do you explain how it jumped two floors in a second?
And I belive they tried to debunk the fact that there were other people
There is only one way down and if they were people then they would have had to pass by the Investigators.
As for Evil Spirits, I think they exist.
There are 3 types of hauntings:

Intelligent or Traditional Hauntings
This type of haunting is what most people think of when they hear the word ghost. Unfortunately these types of hauntings are very rare. An intelligent or traditional ghost is kind of like Casper in the sense that they interact with people. The most common belief is that the ghost is connected to the site or people in some way.

Some reasons the ghost may be tied to the site or people:

1.Died as a result of a traumatic event, murder, car accident, etc.
2.Due to unfinished business.
3.The spirit may have died suddenly and not realized he/she died.
4.The living loved ones are so emotionally distraught they can’t let go.
5.The spirit is emotionally connected to their loved ones.
6.They cannot rest due to an injustice done to them.
7.Fear of the other side or judgment
These ghosts are generally associated with physical activity like slamming, opening, closing, unlocking doors and windows, voices, and sounds. A strong presence, a scent, or touch may be experienced. People rarely see a manifestation of the ghost in the form of an apparition or mist.



Residual Haunting
A residual haunt is believed to be activity of reoccurring or traumatic actions from past events that leave an imprint on the environment.

This type is probably the most common type of haunting. Because its' characteristics are similar to the intelligent haunting, people often mistake it for an intelligent/traditional haunting. Like intelligent haunts, some examples of activity are phantom footsteps, sounds, images, and scents. One major difference between this haunting and the intelligent/traditional haunting, is that this type of haunting is not considered to be that of a ghost, and there is no interaction with the living.

It is believed that this activity is the dissipation of stored energy from the site. The theory is the energy is stored or absorbed by the site due to repetitive or traumatic events of the energy expended while performing such actions. Similar to a tape player, the energy is stored in the magnetic field of the environment. Over time the energy builds up and is discharged showing a replay of the event, and then the cycle starts again. Some suggest that atmospheric conditions such as storms may initiate the playback. There is also a quantum physics theory that relates the energy as light particles that are dormant until they are stimulated by an outside variable under the proper conditions. Researchers have observed that the energy tends to diminish over periods of time until eventually it is either exhausted, or the level is so low that it is not experienced again.


And the ever famous Polterguist Hauntings. You can guess what Spirits do durring this Haunting. Most of the time they just mess around with objects but sometimes they are what are sometimes called "Demon" spirits. These spirits attack the living for some reason or another. From as simple as a push to Scratches and causing the person actual harm

[Bleu]

Yup.

Those hauntings are also sometimes called "flashback hauntings". The discovery Channel show "A haunting" had an episode that focused on this phenomenon. There was a young girl who saw a man named mr gordy. mr gordy would play with her and push her on a swing, and talk to her. A scientist from the North decided that it wasnt a ghost, but the memories of a person. Everything we do is recorded into the enviorment. if you push something, it moves, i you say something, it is flowing through the air. sound waves could be recieved by us from outerspace from a million years ago, under the right circumstances.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yvOnjNqiR1c&feature=related

this episode also focused on enviorment. In short, some areas are more prone to activity then others. Like my old house, in england, my neighbors had also experienced supernatural experiences, it seemed to be an area thing. While in the episode it said that rocks shifting may cause hallucinations, i disagree with this. I do not think that they are halucinations, but in fact a disturbance in the land that trigers things to become active. if you push a dormant object, it moves.

[Vizard_King]

I watch that show, but I have trouble beliving some of the stories.
Many of them could just be for show.
We don't know for sure

[Bleu]

That is true, but i am going to believe the legitimacy of it because it is on the discovery channel, which is science. that episode seems more possible to have actually happened, since there was alot of science in that particular episode

[Vizard_King]

Good point. Discovery wouldnt put a fake show up just for ratings.
And some of the stories have alot of details so it is possible that they are real

[Adam]

I don't believe in the existence of ghosts in the slightest. The human eye can only detect a very small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, and there is a lot of stuff going on around us constantly that we cannot see. I've taken enough psychology courses to know that the human mind is prone to many miscalculations, so I've never believed others' tales that they've seen a ghost; it's much more plausible that their memory is faulty or that the brain didn't process what they saw properly. That humans typicallywant to believe in ghosts makes me doubt these stories all the more, since people will see what they want to see.

As for paranormal activies, such as the ones Vizard King mentioned in his first post here, I think Simone de Beauvior says it best:

"Mystery is nothing more than a mirage that vanishes as we draw near to look at it."

While science may not be able to explain such events in the present, I have full confidence that they will in the future. Back in the past, the doxa (common belief) was that rain, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and all sorts of previously inexplicable events were thought to be the works of gods or some other spiritual force, yet we now know otherwise. Will this trend continue? Just like how we can't prove there is no such thing as ghosts right now, you can't prove science will not be able to disprove the paranormal in the future.

It's easy to say that the cause of something seemingly impossible was the work of some spirit, or ghost, and I've never liked that, personally.

[Vizard_King]

As for paranormal activies, such as the ones Vizard King mentioned in his first post here, I think Simone de Beauvior says it best:

"Mystery is nothing more than a mirage that vanishes as we draw near to look at it."

While science may not be able to explain such events in the present, I have full confidence that they will in the future. Back in the past, the doxa (common belief) was that rain, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and all sorts of previously inexplicable events were thought to be the works of gods or some other spiritual force, yet we now know otherwise. Will this trend continue? Just like how we can't prove there is no such thing as ghosts right now, you can't prove science will not be able to disprove the paranormal in the future.


I like that point. It is very true that we thought Gods caused Natural things.
But we belived that because we could not see what was making it happen.
I see it therefore it is.
But Humankind has always encountered Spirits of some form or another.
For it was some experiance or another that first came the belif of a Soul and the Afterlife.
But it is kind of hard to explain being hit by something that was not there.
Last time I checked Air doesn't have fists.

I think that the Spirits, OUR Spirits walk the Earth Long after our bodies die. And Most of the time we don;t contact the living because we have ourselves to worry about.
But sometimes a Spirit wants to stay and wants to be seen for some reason or another.

The Invention of the Video camera has helped that belif alot.
A Camera is a Tool. What you see on the screen is what it saw.
And Sometimes it sees a figure that was not there.

I hope that someday we well find out what causes Spirit activity.
Weather it is truly a Ghost or something in Nature, or an Echo from the past.
We shall see

[Bleu]

You do have a point, Adam.

Religion would play alot into spirits. It is possible that we tell ourselves that these things exist, they're real, there is life after death. all of this is to comfort ourselves, because as humans, we do not know what life is like when we die, do we just go black mindless forever? do we go to heaven or hell? we dont know. The existence of ghosts would really help comfort alot of people, as death is a topic science cant explain other than causes of death. People seek out faces in objects, jesus on a peice of toast, a figure appearing out of smoke. It is human nature to reconize such things so we can understand.

No matter how advanced science becomes, there is two things that we will never fully understand: Death, and the Human Mind. And that is true no matter how many phyc classes you have sat through :)

In my opinion, when someone says surely that ghosts do not exist, cannot exist, its like telling me that the sky isnt blue. the grass isnt green. It is something so obvious to me that it becomes as clear as the sky, and as green as the grass, and becomes fact to me.

People who are blind are born without seeing a thing, but yet, they know that beyond the darkness of their eyes, there is always something there that they cant see. and maybe we are all just born blind.

[Vizard_King]

That point reminds me of a great song by The Tragically Hip called
Inevitability of Death:
"
Puffy lips glistening skin
And everything comes rushing in
We don't go to hell
memories of us do

I get a sense of connectedness
Exclusive tight but nothing dangerous
We don't go to hell memories of us do
And if you go to hell
I'll still remember you

But I thought you beat the death of
inevitability
to death just a little bit
I though you beat the inevitability
of death
to death just a little bit

Terry's gift is forever green
It got me up and back on the scene
we don't go to hell
just our memories do

Fantastic gap common space
Open concept in your smiling face
we don't go to hell memories of us do

And if you go to hell I'll still remember you"

Makes you think,dosnt it?

[Rain]

Ghosts have yet to be proven as a fact so I won't believe in them:cool: they still scare me sometime though:p and I beieve that ghosts don't exist simply because it makes no sense for them to exisit (to me at least).

talking about shows with ghosts in them- Every ghost encounter can be explained by something else, and what makes those encounters so amazing is just the peoples reactions.

Bleu- but the sky isn't always blue, grass isn't always green:p and ghosts don't exisit. its all in how we percieve our world

[tari101190]

i'd like to post my opinions on this, but i wanna know some things first.

when you guys aretalkin about ghosts, do you mean some kinda of electro-wateva residue stuff left over? or do you just mean likefantasy style ghosts?

the former would make this debate sound more plausible i guess...cos i don't really think ghosts exist, in a fantasy-magic kindof way (or anyway ata ll to be honest...).

In my opinion, when someone says surely that ghosts do not exist, cannot exist, its like telling me that the sky isnt blue. the grass isnt green. It is something so obvious to me that it becomes as clear as the sky, and as green as the grass, and becomes fact to me.but there is concrete evidence showing why sky is blue and grass is green...there's not enough evidence to say ghsts exist, in any way, shape, or form...kinda.

i can understand that we do not lknw everything about the universe yet though, but overtime we have learn more. eventualy we will know more about this. although i feel the answers will show that ghosts arn't real.

While science may not be able to explain such events in the present, I have full confidence that they will in the future. Back in the past, the doxa (common belief) was that rain, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and all sorts of previously inexplicable events were thought to be the works of gods or some other spiritual force, yet we now know otherwise. Will this trend continue? Just like how we can't prove there is no such thing as ghosts right now, you can't prove science will not be able to disprove the paranormal in the future.i like this post basically.

when you talk about ghosts, i dn'trealy think its just ne subject. some ppl may refer to fantasy style ghosts which are just our spirits that form after death. some may think of them as some electro-wateva residue stuff. some think of it as something to do with the afterlife and some stufflinked to it.

personally i think to debate it yyou should ignore the religious/fantasy sides though...when it comes to thse areas, there is 0 evidence to prove anything in the slighest right?

even without knowing much on the subject, we live in a day and age where we think more logical about things...itmay be a very long time til we have more concrete evidence about ghosts. for now its more speculation etc i think...

[Vizard_King]

You know I think I'm the only one who gave evidence for my side.
Remmber, The Evidence is in the Video, Photo or Personal Experiance.
Which I have has the Latter many times.

[Bleu]

We;re going to refer to ghosts as apparations, shadow-ghosts, poltergiests, ect,. the blanket over the head, no. The most common types of ghosts/spirits. but please no orbs of light, unless its really genuine. most cases oft hat can be dismissed really easily by dust..

*i gave a video and a personal experience, too*

What i mean by the sky being blue is that you can see it, not something proving the existance of it. Science has proven the elements that the sky is composed of, yes, but some people see spirits, too, as clear as they see that sky.

Ghosts have never been proved by science, so does that automatically mean they arent real? no. It's the same as Aliens, and bigfoot, and pygmy colonies. (pygmy colonies had been legend, and have recently found evidence that they did exist). Science does have a limit. There are many things in this world that we cannot prove with science, but if we dismiss it just by that it would not be the scientific thing to do. science is the never-ending seek for answers, and until i see a scientist tell me "spirits do not exist" and give me all the proof i will ever need, im still going to believe what i have seen with my own eyes.

But, how could we really prove that ghosts do not exist? If they are the embodiment spirit of a dead, surely they cant die twice and leave "fossils".

[Vizard_King]

Yeah, No Orbs. Most are just dust or Bugs. Nothing special.
It's the Shadows, Apparitions and things like that that we want.

[emoloz]

I believe in Ghosts. I can understand Adam's point completely but what's to explain why would you see a dead person who you don't even know and why would the mind just make it up? Also why would Cameras come up with evidence of Orbs and actual faces of ghosts? It doesn't make sense. I think Ghosts are around is but we can't see them because were not meant but from time to time they actually do appear. I have seen a few ghosts before so i guess thats why i believe it.

[Bleu]

seeing truely is believing.

Camera orbs are usually dust and bugs like vizard said, but faces and figures are pretty substantial.

Also, there was an episode on a haunting, and i will link it, where this medium has been experiences ghostly encounteres since she was little. an old woman was angry over her property and her voice was always echoing, through research it was found that a woman around the civil war used to live in that house, and her land was confiscated after her husband died and she lost her slaves and possessions. A man who appeared to be dressed in air-force attire appeared in her window, and she was also bitten by a small child spirit during the night.

how could this be imagination then? if someone had no prior knowledge of all of these events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Haunting
information on "a haunting"

[Vizard_King]

I actually want to see that new show on A&E called Paranormal State, I think.
That looks like it'll be good.
It's about a group of Penn State Students make a Paranormal Society and investigate Hauntings.
It's on Tommorow at 10 eastern Time.

[Adam]

But Humankind has always encountered Spirits of some form or another.

And how did they do that? People hearing voices in their head? Many prophets in the past would simply be labelled as schizophrenic if they tried to spread their doctrine these days. Encountering spirits? What the Spartans of ancient Greece would really do is pump a poor girl with lots of drugs and "interpret" what her crazed ramblings were. This is something that's true in many historical encounters with spirits; the influence of drugs. Another thing to take into account about past examples is how bad recording methods were for a long time. Word of mouth is not a very accurate way of communicating in the long run.

I don't think it's a coincidence that mankind's encounters with spirits have significantly decreased as we've become more scientifically aware over the years.

The Invention of the Video camera has helped that belif alot.
A Camera is a Tool. What you see on the screen is what it saw.
And Sometimes it sees a figure that was not there.

Cameras are far from being perfect tools. What they do is capture light (or heat, or whatever the camera is designed for); no more, no less. They're rather limited and you can't gauge depth perception through a monocular lens the way people and other animals can with two eyes. Just watch a regular movie to see how cameras can appear to show us something that isn't real. Then there's natural and common inconsistencies brought about by the lens of camera. Take a look at a lens flare or how a wide-angle lens will warp the world. The circles of light you'll see in a lens flare are not really there; it's brought about entirely from internal reflection and and scattering from material inhomogenities in the lens itself.

No matter how advanced science becomes, there is two things that we will never fully understand: Death, and the Human Mind. And that is true no matter how many phyc classes you have sat through :)

Sadly, every person will understand death and the afterlife, eventually, though science likely never will. And great strides have been made about our comprehension of the human brain in the past hundred years, and our knowledge of the brain will only become greater through the next millenia.

In my opinion, when someone says surely that ghosts do not exist, cannot exist, its like telling me that the sky isnt blue. the grass isnt green. It is something so obvious to me that it becomes as clear as the sky, and as green as the grass, and becomes fact to me..

Uh, that's not exactly the best way of thinking.

I believe in Ghosts. I can understand Adam's point completely but what's to explain why would you see a dead person who you don't even know and why would the mind just make it up? Also why would Cameras come up with evidence of Orbs and actual faces of ghosts? It doesn't make sense.

Well, it does make sense that humans can see faces just about anywhere. We train our eyes from a young age to recognize and differentiate individual faces, which is useful in telling people apart, but this has a definite impact on our brains. Have you ever looked at a linoleum tile and seen a face there? However, you know it's just a random pattern of color, and it will often only appear as a face from a certain angle. But why do you see a face in the first place? It's because of shortcuts your brain uses to process images of faces. Yeah, and this type of thing happens all over the place, not just on linoleum tiles. Not too long ago, there was a big buzz over a piece of toast that appeared to look like Jesus (or was it the Virgin Mary? Ah, that doesn't matter). And people will often see faces in poorly lit areas from cameras.

I have seen a few ghosts before so i guess thats why i believe it.

I've got a quote for this, from Alphonse Bertillon:

"One can only see what one observes, and one observes only things which are already in the mind."

I'm not a paranormal investigator so I'm not too familiar with cases of ghost sightings, but I would bet that most people see are ghosts of humans, what people's brains are most strongly associated with, not dogs or any other type of animal, which people's minds would not recognize as easily.

[Bleu]

Uh, that's not exactly the best way of thinking.


How is that so? I see therefor i believe. You see things in front of you dont you? they are there, so you believe it.

--

We will never ever fully understand the mind, no matter how many milleniums have past. Science could tell me why i cry, but only i can tell them why i am crying, and that would never be the same as someone else, as every brain is built on the same concepts, but are completely different.

When ive seen a spirit, i wasnt drugged up, or hungry, thristy, or any of that. i was fine, my body was not really affected in a way to cause abnormal hallucinations. When i was with my brother one time when we were walking, we both saw the same thing, so drugs/my brain couldnt be a problem.

[Vizard_King]

Thanks for joining us, Llama.
I agree. Ghost Hunters is a very reliable source for Paranormal Evidence.
I like how it shows every investigation weather they catch somethinbg or not.
Now THAT is Reality TV

[Bleu]

through my searchings on youtube i saw a live one that they had on halloween, it was interesting. Ive been watching some of their clips for a while now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEIhc0EmXxY

2:08, amazing.

[Vizard_King]

Ah I remmber those episodes. The Ruins from Ireland where amazing to me.
I know Thermal Imaging and Red Figures don't just pop out of nowhere, follow people, split into 4 and dissapear.
It just does not happen.
Another video from that episode in Ireland shows something interesting. And scary.
Oh, it's the video after the Thermal.
Please explain that one.
If it's anything other than Paranormal, I wanna know.

[Bleu]

Quiet.

Anyways i want to hear some more anti-spirit opinions.

Also, has anyone ever captured a 'spirit' on film?

[lala~]

wow interesting topic :)

hm.. i've never been a firm believer in spirits really. my disbelief is more out of fear than anything, but occurences of ghosts/spirits seems too unexplainable for me that i can't really relate to it. maybe its a good thing but still, i can't help getting scared out of my wits everytime i hear a ghost story even if i tell myself they don't REALLY exist.

[cheez]

I would like to believe in ghosts but I can't get behind the existence of something that dose not have objective evidence, or an objective means of determining if ghosts are present or not. Ghosts Hunters dose a good job at being objective. A Haunting on the Discovery Channel is a very poor show in my opinion, it is not objective, it dosn't make any attempt to disprove or give alternative explanations to why the people saw what they saw. One of the buildings at my college is rumored to be haunted it has even had a paranormal investigation team, a few mediums, and numerous students have claimed they have seen ghosts, and there is no way to prove or disprove any bodies claim, so I can't believe in something that dosn't have some indisputable proof.

[Bleu]

I would like to believe in ghosts but I can't get behind the existence of something that dose not have objective evidence, or an objective means of determining if ghosts are present or not. Ghosts Hunters dose a good job at being objective. A Haunting on the Discovery Channel is a very poor show in my opinion, it is not objective, it dosn't make any attempt to disprove or give alternative explanations to why the people saw what they saw. One of the buildings at my college is rumored to be haunted it has even had a paranormal investigation team, a few mediums, and numerous students have claimed they have seen ghosts, and there is no way to prove or disprove any bodies claim, so I can't believe in something that dosn't have some indisputable proof.

A Haunting is more of a recount of events, while Ghost Hunters hunts them down, Since A Haunting is based on eyewitness accounts, it becomes hard to dissprove since some cases were 30 or 40 years old. But other then that, i agree wth you. Its very hard to believe in something that you dont have evidence for. As for your college building, have you ever tried to stay in there alone or with a friend?

[Vizard_King]

Cheez, Your right. I am the same. I need evidence before I prove a place is haunted.

Try investigating the place yourself.

As for me, There is an old Sanitarium close to where I live.
Me and my team went to investigate, and we found the place very active.
Doors closing on their own happened the most.
Now, before you start yapping about how it was "Just the wind"
Let me explain something to ya
It was the middle of July when we investigated. No Wind at all.
Also, These Doors were more like iron gates more suited for a Medieval Castle.
They were heavy as hell.
And they were all left open.
Until they started to close when nobody was near them, of course.
Lastly, we all saw the same apperition.
I feel ashamed that we didn;t catch it on camera.
But, we all had the experience on our own.
And when we got back, the last one to see it talked about it.
And that scared the crap out of us. We all saw the same F*cking thing

[cheez]

The building used to be a orphanage before they conferted it into a college, so it had some creepy aspects to it, less now since they renivated it. I have personally never felt anything wrong in the building but I know plenty of people who have and some even refuse to enter the builiding. I pass by the building during my night walks, and I'm usually the only person out except of the campus police because I'm walking at 5AM :) and I'v been one of only two people in the building before also (class was cancled because of weather and I didn't check my email :) ) so some people have sworn that their are ghosts their but I'v never seen any hint.

[Vizard_King]

Well, If you have no evidence yourself and all you got to go on is what other people saw, than just ignore it.

[Frosted Heart]

Some of the posts here are great, but some of them were either spam or not thought out enough. Please remember, posts in the Debate section needs a little more in them. Thanks. :)

- FH

[cheez]

My main problem with the show A Haunting is that it's on the Discovery Channe, if it was on another channel then I wouldn't have a problem with it. The Discovery Channel presents its self as an educational entertainment channel, and any program on the channel is assumed to be at least partly factually based. A Haunting simply reenacts the peoples supposed observations, I believe that this gives the false impression that these accounts are fact based, that is my main gripe with the show.

Vizard_King I'm interested what did your apparition look like and did it do anything?

Back to the supposidely haunted building on my campus, I have ran into a variety of stories of encounters ranging from believable to wishful thinking. I have talked to some people who have claimed that they have seen "mysterious shadows" and loud noises that must have been caused by ghosts, these accounts I see more as wishful thinking because they could have been caused by numerous easily explainable events. A few of the campus police talk to on campus have been their for over ten years and dismiss all the ghosts stories, they are the ones who lock up the building at night so I give them the most credibility. But I have talked to others that have had rather convincing stories, a girl that I know recounted her story in the basement of the building with her old roommate. While they were walking by the campus radio station both of them felt a significant drop in temperature along with an unexplainable intense feeling of fear, as she recounted her story her body started shaking, so what ever happened in the basement rather spirits or not was real enough to her.

[Bleu]

I think that would be fun to go exploring the campus at night all alone, well, with another person (but not a group).

I have another account of a "ghostly encounter" that my mom told me about, that happened when i was one or two years old. I dont know any specific details about the day or whatnot, but i want some opinions on both sides to tell me what you think since i am not too great on child physcology.

My grandmother died a year before I was born, my other grandmother died in the 80's. The word "grandma" was never spoken in my house, since i did not have one, and they didnt like to talk about it. I apparently was sitting down on the floor talking and playing, and when asked what i was doing i replied "playing with grandma" and looked forward smiling brightly. That scared my parents. xD

Anyways yes, does anyone know of anything that could bring upon this?

[cheez]

From a skeptics point of view I'm assuming that you went over to other children's homes and played with other kids, you could have easily heard the word grandma there. Other children might have retold stuff they got fro