Should we show who reps you?

[spacecat]

So let's vote then, I am getting too many pms about this, you don't need to post but make a vote please. Comments are welcome.

1. Do you want to be able to see who reps you and people to see who you rep?

2. Do you prefer it be anonymous? Remember that you can always leave your name if you want them to know...

[Sarada]

Partly agreeing if I understand it correctly.

I don't think it's anyone's business to be able to see who I give rep too, and what comment I give them, except for a mod, if they see fit to check it, it's like a very short private message and I sure don't want my pm's to be public.

On the other hand, anonymous repping is cowardly. So you should be able to see who you get rep from.

[spacecat]

ah nah i just worded that really badly, i mean the person you rep will see it was you and you can see who repped you obviously. No one else other than mods can see the reps though apart from the 2 users involved of course.

[shivath]

2. Do you prefer it be anonymous? Remember that you can always leave your name if you want them to know...

I'll have to agree with this one. If they really want to be known they can always add their nick there. Being forced to show your nick for positive reps isn't bad but I assume the negative reps could break out some forum fights or whatever. If that even exists.

But even with that said, as written by Sarada. It's kinda cowardly(?) to give at least negative reps without a nick, or at least a reason to go with it.

[Velius]

I think it should stay how it is, that people can see who reps them, for multiple reasons.

It makes people rep more honestly. They can't just go neg repping away for any stupid reason without the person knowing who did it. If you don't have to put your name on something, you are more likely to abuse that.

It takes away from the hassle of having to put your name there. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would and does forget.

It just keeps the system from becoming abusable.

[Beee]

Well you always have the choice to give your name when you rep ;)

I think reps are a little useless anyways. The only good thing out of it are the shineh green bars xD

[badgercoon]

I think it should stay how it is, that people can see who reps them, for multiple reasons.

It makes people rep more honestly. They can't just go neg repping away for any stupid reason without the person knowing who did it. If you don't have to put your name on something, you are more likely to abuse that.

It takes away from the hassle of having to put your name there. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would and does forget.

It just keeps the system from becoming abusable.

I strongly agree. It's like the school of thinking "If you wouldn't say it to their face, then you shouldn't say it at all."

Sure anony-reps are fine, though I see too much abuse and bullying resulting from it, too. So it'd be easier to deal with them being eitehr non-existant or at least not anonymous.

[Nocturne]

I agree with Velius and badgercoon. Transparency is always a good thing. And yeah I'm one of those who repped and forgot to type my name.:o

[Sola]

I want to see. Or if the reppers choose to leave their name then they could.

[Sexta Espada]

Showing the good Samaritarian Reppers is awesome. I would approve of this showing who repped me positively and whom I just repped.

[Shannon]

I like how it is right now. :D
They have the choice to add their name anyways, right?

[Slev]

Being able to see someone's name when they rep you would definitely stop some of the more inane negreps from being sent out. Some people will negrep anything just because of the anonymity of the system.

Well, I put my name on both positive reps and negative reps anyway, but I still vote to be able to see the person's name.

[SiSL]

"Definitely" is a good word for seeing who repped us and people to see who repped them.

[spacecat]

My only problem is with neg reps that if the name is shown the person is just going to do a retaliation neg rep even if they were being a dick in the first place and deserved it whereas the person who gave it probably doesn't. If people can't neg rep cos they know they are just going to get a retaliation neg rep then the system really is pointless cos no one will neg rep.

[furato]

My only problem is with neg reps that if the name is shown the person is just going to do a retaliation neg rep even if they were being a dick in the first place and deserved it whereas the person who gave it probably doesn't. If people can't neg rep cos they know they are just going to get a retaliation neg rep then the system really is pointless cos no one will neg rep.But mods can annul retaliation negreps, can't you guys? There are good and bad points to anonymity vs non-anonymity. For one, names in good reps can lead to sucking up or favouritism, anonymity in bad reps can lead to spite reps or gang reps.

For me I'd rather have the names though, just so people can be a little bit more responsible with their clicking. Maybe that way the mods would only need to deal with the public dicks and not so much the cowardly ones.

[spacecat]

Yeah but we made gang reps illegal so if someone reports it we delete them and warn the users. It works both ways, mods can delete retaliation neg reps but we can also delete unjustified ones from anonymous people like we have been doing.

[mori]

I like having anonymity as an option, its nice to just get an anon rep everynow and then, just to say people you don't necessarily discuss directly with notice you and think you post well.

If there's a problem with neg abuse I'm sure it can be dealt with via mods/admins, we'd just have to trust that most forum members are capable of being mature enough not to abuse continued anonymous repping so that it doesn't become a large scale problem.

[Agmaster]

Well, since it apparently IS serious business I think you may as well with all the other rules linked it it. Is there really any reason to hide it since a complaint/request reveals the source. It's a convenience for the repper as well, since we don't have to tell you who we are.

[Sarada]

Another reason is that if a rep is anonymous, you can't give your own say about it to that person. Like I wanna do now :(

[Velius]

My only problem is with neg reps that if the name is shown the person is just going to do a retaliation neg rep even if they were being a dick in the first place and deserved it whereas the person who gave it probably doesn't. If people can't neg rep cos they know they are just going to get a retaliation neg rep then the system really is pointless cos no one will neg rep.
And that is where the problem lies. Either was you go, people are going to abuse it. Show names - no one neg reps/retaliation neg reps = pointless. Don't show names - people abuse system - pointless. So yea, dead end in both directions. Honestly doesn't matter to me anymore.

[Syn]

This is pretty much why the staff finally dropped out the rep at BF because it was abused and there was nothing we could do about it XD

It was so pointless that we just decided to drop it.

[Kojy]

Oh well i joined BF pretty much late so this reputation feature is quite new to me, still i agree that people should be able to see who reps them indepedently if they're positive or negative. :)

[Sola]

I think we should be able to see neg reps but reps are optional.

[spacecat]

Very true Velius. Well since I use neg rep sparingly I don't care either way. When I get neg repped I don't really give it much thought but unfortunately some people get upset and that's mostly why I made the poll.

[Lady Orihime]

So is this a 'go' or 'no'? :confused:

[Velius]

I say just leave it how it is. Seems like it would cause the least amount of problems this way. Who cares if no one neg regs because of this. At least it's makes it somewhat easier for spacecat. Even if it is a little.

[krompt]

Yeah I agree that we should leave it this way, it makes it a little easier rather than putting alot more work on the Moderation staff and Spacey. I guess we'll have to deal with neg reps, which shouldn't be to hard XD

[aznxenocide]

This was a bad idea in BF, and I don't see why it'd be any different here.

[spacecat]

I say just leave it how it is. Seems like it would cause the least amount of problems this way. Who cares if no one neg regs because of this. At least it's makes it somewhat easier for spacecat. Even if it is a little.
Are you agreeing we should show them or not show them lol? You do know mods can see but others can't right? :o

[Lady Orihime]

Yeah I agree that we should leave it this way, it makes it a little easier rather than putting alot more work on the Moderation staff and Spacey. I guess we'll have to deal with neg reps, which shouldn't be to hard XD

No, it shouldn't, but if someone is going to neg-rep me for no reason and also won't grow the balls horns to leave their name, I will complain to spacecat (and he know's this...it's our thing, we complain to one another :D) and that will cause more work for him and the other mods. I told space that if I had known who neg-rep'd me, I would have contacted that person myself and get some answers. I wouldn't neg-rep them back...that's just childish.

[Shirosaki]

yes
i vote for yes

[spacecat]

ok i opened it for a few more days. xD

[Velius]

Are you agreeing we should show them or not show them lol? You do know mods can see but others can't right? :o
Well then... Don't I feel dumb. :rotflmao My lack of paying attention aside, I guess then it should be changed is what I was going for, if that is the case, names not shown. lol. No wonder you get so many pms about it.

[ezxx]

i don't really care either way. it's not like i can give much of a rep anyways :)

[Guildenstern]

Anonymous is the true nature of the internet.

No, we shouldn't be able to see who reps us. Let me be a mysterious Samaritan. :/

/votes no

[aznxenocide]

Anonymity for the win. If you don't want to be known for a rep, you don't have to.

[♠ Fate ♠]

I guess... @_@ Both have their good and bad.

For negative reps, it may make people go attackle on the person who neg repped them... and that would be nasty. ><;;

But it's also good in a way that it encourages positive reps. Less hate, more love. =D

So whatever the outcome, I guess I'll just accept it. ^^

[twsl]

Anonymous is the true nature of the internet.

No, we shouldn't be able to see who reps us. Let me be a mysterious Samaritan. :/

/votes no

lol!!! so why do we have nicknames? to remain anonymous yesh >_____> I don't see the point in repping someone anonymously. if you think someone did a great job irl, you will step up to that person and say yesh you sir! you does a pritty good job sir! you won't write a anonymous note and send it to that person, that's just weird and lame imo xD

anyway, voted yesh!

don't be a wuss and take responsibility (SP? ;x;x) for the actions that you do would i say yesh sir

[Primera Espada]

Honestly, I've found a lot of people who positive rep will leave their name in the rep, so you know.

That being said, the neg reppers likely never do.

That's sorta what bothers me, I guess. If someone neg reps you, leaves a 3 word sentance that barely explains, you may not actually understand what you did wrong, and can't improve it.

And some people just use reps as a way to post spam (positive or negative) sending messages like "OMG YES" or "WTF FAIL" which are rather pointless and uninformative.

I dunno, but the phrase "everyone is braver when they're anonymous" is not always a good thing. It means people are more likely to be jerks as well. Or that people won't care if they are doing anything constructive.

I personally don't participate in the repping system, but I know there's been times where a statement is made in regards to a post, and I can't for the life of me figure out what they are talking about. I'd like to know, but I can't, since they're anonymous.

Also, is there any way, currently, that someone can be saved from repeat negative reppers? I mean, if we don't know who's posting, we may not have reason to suspect someone might just be neg repping us whenever they get the chance, just cause they disagree with us. Space it out just right, and it may not catch anyone's eyes for awhiiile.

I dunno, I just feel it would simplify things a lot. Lets rules to worry about, and, as another poster said, makes people feel responsible for their actions.

[Nell]

I voted for no because if I were to neg rep someone because of an inadequate post, it would more likely end with being neg repped in return for no good reason. I think it's better this way *nods*

[spacecat]

Also, is there any way, currently, that someone can be saved from repeat negative reppers? I mean, if we don't know who's posting, we may not have reason to suspect someone might just be neg repping us whenever they get the chance, just cause they disagree with us. Space it out just right, and it may not catch anyone's eyes for awhiiile.


Yeah well if you are negged over and over tell me and I will check, if it's the same person I'd ask them why and sort it out from there cos that is not ok, well if it is simply cos they don't like you.

edit. btw i looked at ur reps and there is not someone doing that, all your reps pos or neg are mostly from different people.

[Sergelia]

Voted "no". Not only because no one has neg-repped me yet (or I just missed it, if they did), but because I wouldn't be able to care less who does it. If my posts are truly offending or inappropriate I figure someone reasonable will be able to tell me what it is; if not, then I'm not interested in their opinion.

And should I ever feel the need to negrep someone, I'll be sure to sign myself. ^__^

[Sapphire Star]

I voted yes because I like to see who thought what when someone reps me...whether neg rep (which I have fortunately not recieved and will hopefully stay that way) or good rep :)........if only to assuage my curiosity.

So yes is how I go. ^.^

[Rain]

I voted "couldn't care less", because I think the current way is perfect. You can be repped and either see a name or not. It shouldn't be required to show a name, it should be optional.

[Sapphire Star]

So when its it gonna be said which way we're going with? Like, when does the poll close?

[Primera Espada]

lol, I didn't say people were doing it to me.

I was pointing it out as a possibility.

Not to mention, isn't that more work for the mods?

[spacecat]

lol, I didn't say people were doing it to me.

I was pointing it out as a possibility.

Not to mention, isn't that more work for the mods?
Well you did have quite a few negs so i thought u may have :p

More work? Not really and as if anyone cares about that anyways :lmao

[Marionette]

Doesn't that defeat the point of reps though? This is a better way to vent than people flaming each other back and fourth, privately or publicly (because if they stay in the forum, private enmity will eventually affect public).

[silhouette]

I am assuming the reason behind the reps system is to improve the quality of posts...you know to probably encourage people to make better posts and/or discourage otherwise spam, bashing ...etc.
However, allowing anonymous neg reps can be abused and revealing the name may make abusers think twice why they would neg rep someone. On the other hand, showing the name may cause more flaming wars....I say get rid of the neg reps, it's not necessary (! >_>)

[Agmaster]

It all depends on the size of this place and arguments can be made for both positions at either size.

For a small place, the intimacy goes hand in hand with naming the reppers. A sense of responsibility pops up because of the nature of the relationship between posters here. Conversely, with such a smattering of forum goes, rep will never (no time soon atleast) be heavy enough to really truly matter on the bar count. Spammer and flamers will be shooting rubber if you will.

If this place grows to NF or SRK size (not likely. Just saying...), then forcing rep to have it's giver shown gives a sense of responsibility. Of course, forcing it to br shown can also make people just yell out insults in the public forums or spend days going back and forth in pms. The latter is not really a problem though, is it?

[Rain]

Since so many of the us here are split does that mean the rep system is going to stay the same?

[Velius]

Yea, more then likely, it will stay the same for now. Later down the line, it might change, simply just to change it up a little.

And on this note I'm closing this thread :) It's too close so things will stay the same for now.~spacecat