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Grey1x
03-02-2008, 08:21 PM
It's like the topic suggest, say something crazy but with a small argument that may show it is possible!

Here goes mine: Oichi, Ichigo's teacher is either a vaizard or a Shinigami.
Well, I don't know how it works in Japan, but in here people can't join the school in the mid of the year. And Shinji came in. But that isn't the most justifiable argument, like, Shinji most likely didn't do school from 1st year to 9th or 10th. How the heck could he join a 9th or 10th level class? That's it, Oichi pulled the strings :).

Kubo is the guy to make really unpredictable things, but he uses to give some hints for them, and this seems to me some kind of an hint :p.

gab00n
03-02-2008, 11:34 PM
Ichigo's mom was the King's daughter who decided to run off with Isshin to the real world to live a normal life. As punishment, the king had Isshin's powers sealed. Once Ichigo became a Shingami his massive reiatsu awakened his fathers power as well as his friends powers.

Aizen will manage to get to the king and kill him but driven by the memory of his mother Ichigo will kill Aizen and take his place as King since Ichigo is the true successor. Inoue will be his queen and they will rule the world for centuries to come.

Soranushi
03-03-2008, 12:12 AM
Ichigo was the First King in a past life and was reincarnated as predicted by some people and he was to be born of a rouge shinigami and a human. And the current King is actually evil and Aizen knew all along and wants to take over to return peace between the hollow/Arrancar&shinigami/Vizards

these are my crazy theories

Shdo
03-03-2008, 12:17 AM
gin is hitsugaya father and the mother is matsumoto.
this is supported by heir and eye color in the original manga colors and toshiro high amount of energy which might suggest his parents were powerfull.

and beside it will be cool.

stfu revan.

Velius
03-03-2008, 12:25 AM
Isshin, Ryuken and Masaki were the other group of invades that broke into the Soul Society before Ichigo's group did. Yea, pretty crazy and a lot would need to be explained, but it's possible. :D

WatanukiXXX
03-03-2008, 12:29 AM
Mizuiro is the real mastermind behind all the badness in Bleach

That PDA/Mobile he uses? That's how he sends instruc- ORDERS to his lackey Aizen in Las Noches

He's cute but deadly :yell

Rain
03-03-2008, 12:42 AM
I have to do this one first,

Yammy is really the primero espada

Reason: he has a 1 on his body, and aside from him, every lower level espada has been beaten

Velius
03-03-2008, 12:55 AM
I'll save you the post Rain:

Orihime will be able to actually fight someone with offensive powers, that are good. And she will kick ass.

Rain
03-03-2008, 01:46 AM
Vel- thats one of the best theories i've ever heard:D

im going to post all of the Las Noches FC's crazy theories- these are mostly mine (the first five), but not all of them are

-Halibel, Grimmjow, and Cirruci were considered to be Siblings.

-Halibel and Gantebein had a "relationship." Nell was the result of their breeding process.

-Shunsui and Starkk are actually TWINS.

-Shunsui and Unohana were actually Ichigo's Uncle/Aunt.

-Old Espada is the Abuelo to Sado


-Ulquiorra was a good ol' jolly arrancar. A "mysterious" and quite "unknown" event changed his world. Thus, he was never been the same since.

-Ever wonder why Ulquiorra had those permanent tear streaks on his face? Because, his pet Bunny died right before his eyes. Grimmjow ate it. Thus, he cried for 100 days and 100 nights.

-Szayel Aporro is Hueco Mundo's best make-up artist and all his fraccions are really just for testing

Bleu
03-03-2008, 01:49 AM
Orihime is actually the princess of S.S. Which explains her godly powers, and the fact that her name means princess. She is actually the real key to the kingdom, and thats why aizen wants her. :hm

vonix
03-03-2008, 01:49 AM
my theory is....rukia is pregnant w/ichigo's baby

Miyona
03-03-2008, 01:53 AM
Ichigo trades himself for Inoue, and becomes a high ranked espada

Bleu
03-03-2008, 01:55 AM
Rukia is pregnant with renjis baby.


Gin left rangiku because he was imtimated by her chest.


Titekubo is actually a shinigami, and Bleach is the story of his life.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 01:56 AM
ichigo give control to shirosaki in exchange for him to save every1.
from now on shirosaki is in control and everyone run to the hills.

why do they always run to the hills?

Luhy
03-03-2008, 01:59 AM
I think the hanging legs Mayuri found might be Isshin and his wife... and he's about to be a big part of Ichigo becoming a "Perfect Hybrid" ;p

Shdo
03-03-2008, 02:01 AM
byakuya molests rukia...what can he do? she looks like the yonger, still alive(?!) version of his true love.

Luhy
03-03-2008, 02:04 AM
Rukia goes back to the Menos Forest and lives happily ever after with Ashido! (pleaaase ; ;)

Shapeshifter
03-03-2008, 02:09 AM
Ichigo falls madly in love with Inoue and they both live happily ever after in Los Noches

Shdo
03-03-2008, 02:14 AM
in los noches? is that the place you want to raise your children?


as for the byakuya molesting thing...he at least hope for something, maybe he have phantazies and stuff..

anyone thinks that a filler arc about how he and hisane met and fell in love would be awsome? i really wonder how she made him show a softer side.

iNSOMNiA
03-03-2008, 02:24 AM
The reason why Gin is always squinting; Aizen stole his glasses.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 02:25 AM
no way he need glasses, look at that accuracy.

iNSOMNiA
03-03-2008, 02:29 AM
no way he need glasses, look at that accuracy.

But just think about how incredible he could be if he had his glasses...?

...Now I gotta go crappily 'shop Aizen's glasses on a screencap of Gin, just to see how strange it would look. o_O

beautiful_death
03-03-2008, 02:33 AM
Nel will heal Nnoitra with her magical vomit!

(well, it's not THAT crazy, but it's crazy nonetheless....)

Shdo
03-03-2008, 02:36 AM
did you saw that picture with adult nell holding chibi noitre? i would love to see a chibi noitre! and since he ad nell dont have memory they will be best friends!!!

shinigami13
03-03-2008, 02:54 AM
heres a theory.....ichigo's hollow form(the one with opposite colors of him)is the #1 espada and ichigo has 2 kill him

Bleu
03-03-2008, 03:33 AM
Gin neednt glasses xD

spacecat said in the ichimaru fc that he was avoiding hypnosis :lmao

iNSOMNiA
03-03-2008, 04:38 AM
Gin neednt glasses xD

spacecat said in the ichimaru fc that he was avoiding hypnosis :lmao

Hey, that theory actually seems legit. xD

I still had to give Gin some glasses just for the heck of it though... It took me two minutes on MS Paint, and I must say... If Aizen did steal his glasses, good move on his part. xD

Or maybe I just fail at art.

Soranushi
03-03-2008, 06:46 AM
No Aizen stole Gin's glasses to use as a practice tool for his I will stand in Heaven speech and crushed them in front of Gin.

Here Gin walks in on Aizen practicing his speech and Gin ask what are you doing:) Aizen says"I'm practicing my I will stand in heaven speech....But I cant get it right there's something missing...." He asks Gin any ideas:confused:? After contemplating for a minute:headscratch Gin says"Maybe you need something to crush in your hands but what to use.....hey how about your glasses" Aizen says":hmhmm maybe but I have to test it first give me yours Gin" He says "Hell no I'm blind without these....BOOM:eek: wha...what the ahhhhhh!" Aizen caught Gin in his hypnosis and he takes the Glasses off a dazed:crazy Gin. He strikes a couple poses before getting it right and begins his speech and as he finishes Gin snaps out of the Hypnosis just in time to hear"I alone shall stand in Heaven" and breaks Gins Glasses Aizen says"Perfect...Thanks Gin:D" and we see Gin fall to ground and scream"Nooooooo my glasses:cry" Aizen then proceeds to say"whats the bid deal they were only reading glasses:rolleyes: and you were more susceptible to by Suigetsu with them on anyway so its a win win situation:che." Gin gets up with an furious expression:mad: and says"Thoses Glasses were a present from Rangiku!" Aizen notices Gin reach for Shinso and Says"Dont be rash Gin....Gin are you listening.....:ohh s**t" Gin yells:yell"KILL HIM DEAD SHHIINNSSOO...." and it ends with Aizen running form the only thing he fears........A pissed off Gin with his eyes.......wide open.

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 02:07 PM
What you think about my Oichi theory? :D

The only reason I think Gin is actually evil is because my Shiro-chan needs someone to fight, otherwise I'd think he was good >_>.

Here goes another theory:
The strongest arrancar (VL lvl) when release retain their swords. Like come on, an arrancar released is almost the same shit of how they were before becoming arrancars. Now, the strongest ones would retain their swords and would be able to attain shikai / bankai. Thus, they would be the perfect opposite of Vaizards.

And one of those strongest have a Fire-like zanpaktou and will be defeated by Rukia... we need Ice vs Fire fight >_>.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 02:11 PM
there is espada 0 and it is that purple iris thing.

sparticus
03-03-2008, 02:38 PM
Hooray! My turn!

Masaki was a Quincy - Ryuuken's baby sister, in fact. Ryuuken was kinda on the fence about shinigami until Isshin came along - then he hated Isshin. But after Masaki died, he turned his back on the whole shebang.

Byakuya knows, or at least has a pretty damn good idea of who Ichigo is - or rather, who he's related to (this actualy isn't as crazy if you go back and read the Bridge Scene chapters in the manga) . ;)

And for the crack...

Because Isshin was the former Sixth Division captain. Imagine it: crazy old Isshin was Byakushi's direct superior. The lulz... they would be epic.

And now for some true crack! :D

No one in Bleach is capeable of defeating Aizen - he has them all right where he wants them, in fact. In a desperate attempt to seek help, Ichigo and Co. accidently find themselves in another dimention where they run across a strange, paralell Tokyo that's just chock full of aliens. Then they meet a lazy, silver haired samurai known as Sakata Gintoki... ;)

Shdo
03-03-2008, 02:48 PM
masaki is a quincy...:notrust
so he is a quince\hollow\shinigami hybrid? wait...masaki wasnt a quincy...she was a quincy\demon hybrid!!!

maybe she was actually an arrancar (a natural one or a vastro lorde) so taht would maybe a alternative explaination to his hollowish powers.

sparticus
03-03-2008, 02:55 PM
masaki is a quincy...:notrust
so he is a quince\hollow\shinigami hybrid? wait...masaki wasnt a quincy...she was a quincy\demon hybrid!!!

maybe she was actually an arrancar (a natural one or a vastro lorde) so taht would maybe a alternative explaination to his hollowish powers.

Well, I figured she had to have had some spirit power to be able to see (and most likely pwn) Isshin. And then it occured to me that Ryuuken isn't hostile towords shinigami in general, really, JUST Isshin. [shrugs]

Edit: Blah! Too early for this. XD Anyway, it's also hinted at that Isshin and Ryuuken have some sort of history, and having Masaki die on Isshin's watch would totaly explain the animosity.

Also, it'd be hilarious of Ichigo and Ishida were actualy cousins. XD

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 02:56 PM
Masaki was a Quincy and before Isshin she felt in love with a Demon from Hell. As such, since Demons are different from humans, their semen last for centuries inside the woman. After the demon, Masaki felt in love with Isshin, but his and the Demon Spermatozoa clashed, forming a Demon / Shinigami spermatozoa, penetrating a Quincy ovule. Now, Ichigo would discover this and would become a Shinigami/Hollow/Demon/Quincy/Something else just for it to be funny hybrid.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 02:58 PM
this is plain disgusting.

igniz
03-03-2008, 03:10 PM
@Grey1x
lol I think you read too many funny mangas labelled with a nice red -18 sticker.

loveisrationed
03-03-2008, 03:46 PM
The Vaizards are the actual bad guys. When SS and Hueco Mundo are fighting each other they will sneak in and take over everything.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 03:58 PM
you know they might be Aizen helpers. maybe they helped ichigo only so that he will be strong and then Aizen will give him the same deal as he made with orihime, 'ill leave your family and friends and you will stay with me'.

come to think about it they did came only after arrancars were created so maybe they were made at the same time but where arrancars are made from hollows the vaisards are shinigami supporters of Aizen. they are like a secreat team for Aizen and the arrancars dont know about them because of that.

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 04:18 PM
Thad would be a good theory but there is something that contradicts it: The vaizards are TOO cool to be EVIL.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 04:25 PM
that is the most stupid thing to say. the bad guys always have cool guys, without it there is no point or intrest to fight them, they will be too boring.

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 04:47 PM
That's not what I meant. Like they are too animated and funny etc. to have "a dark side" >_>.

So far how many bad guys have you seen who read porno mangas, or that slaps people with a slipper.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 04:58 PM
the best villans are those who dont look pure evil. its like in the new gundam, they have bad guys who just have an aura of evil, this is really crappy! a bad guy you actually didnt thought he was bad is the best kind...dont look too far, just look at Aizen.

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Mehhh, that's not what I meant. I had suspicions about Aizen since his would-be death. Aizen acted nice, not funny, those are different things ._..

phantomfork
03-03-2008, 05:41 PM
Is "Isshin was/is part of the Shiba clan" considered to be a crazy theory or a normal one?

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 05:41 PM
Quite crazy, cuz there is no reference to anything like that lol.

Rain
03-03-2008, 05:49 PM
I didn't post it in my last post, so here goes

Yammy is halibels younger brother

my proof- they are both arrancar/espada, they are dark-skinned, and yammy must be alive for some reason:lmao

Shdo
03-03-2008, 05:57 PM
how does hollows have families?i wonder how it works.

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 05:58 PM
Well, they have reproductive organs, according to the "OH NO, NO NO NO NO, NOT MY BALLS!" scene with Stark and Lillinete.

Note: In the anime they didn't translated it this way.

And that's a good theory Rain, like you said, justifies why Yammi isn't dead yet.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 06:00 PM
so what? is he tied up in her room or something?

Rain
03-03-2008, 06:53 PM
Shdo- lol i said sister not sex slave:lmao

:headscratch I have a new theory:rofl

hollow families may be just family in name only, or they could possible have kids, it could eb anythign really

Shdo
03-03-2008, 06:58 PM
how sick your people mind is?! he is tied for his own safety in her room so that her friccon can watch over him.

Soranushi
03-03-2008, 07:12 PM
Shdo- lol i said sister not sex slave:lmao

:headscratch I have a new theory:rofl

hollow families may be just family in name only, or they could possible have kids, it could eb anythign really


Its both Arrancar should be able to have children and families whilst Hollows are only in name like a village of people they may not be related but their still like family. And its possible they found out they were relatives when they were still amongst the living.

Miyona
03-03-2008, 08:25 PM
All the hollows and stuff in Hueco Mundo were fakes from Aizen's sword, and when the gang returns to SS its destroyed and Aizen rules the world

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 08:58 PM
All the hollows and stuff in Hueco Mundo were fakes from Aizen's sword, and when the gang returns to SS its destroyed and Aizen rules the world

And then Inoue comes in: Sōten Kisshun

And everything returns to normal.

Luhy
03-03-2008, 09:15 PM
Theory: the group goes back to retrieve/destroy the Hougyoku, but it's secretly all according to Aizen's plan... destroying it or using Inoue's abilities on it will somehow make a King's Key or something~

loveisrationed
03-03-2008, 09:16 PM
that is the most stupid thing to say. the bad guys always have cool guys, without it there is no point or intrest to fight them, they will be too boring.

Hey, I thought we were talking about theories here. I'm just saying what I think, but I don't appreciate when what I say is called stupid.

Soranushi
03-03-2008, 09:23 PM
Theory: the group goes back to retrieve/destroy the Hougyoku, but it's secretly all according to Aizen's plan... destroying it or using Inoue's abilities on it will somehow make a King's Key or something~

My thoughts exactly digs through the forums aha found it

I had this Idea for awhile that the reason Aizen wants Orihime to reject the Hougyoku Is because Urahara made it out of The First Kings Key, and if she rejects it he gets the Kings Key

I also thought of a side effect that the Vizards were with Urahara when he made the Hougyoku but when making it it automatically made everyone in the vicinity of the Hougyoku a Vizard. Thats why Urahara sealed so fast because by making it he already tested it so if it gets rejected possibly every hollow in Hueco Mundo or in a Soul Mile will become an Arrancar

Quotes self Crazy theory 3

Shdo
03-03-2008, 09:26 PM
Hey, I thought we were talking about theories here. I'm just saying what I think, but I don't appreciate when what I say is called stupid.

i wasnt talking to you.

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 09:43 PM
i wasnt talking to you.

He was talking to me, and he already has the right to insult me... Right mr. stupid Shdo? :D.

Luhy
03-03-2008, 09:45 PM
we actually had a lot of similar ideas to that too~ I went as far as to say Urahara is the King, lol x.x that of course wasn't meant to be taken seriously though XP

another theory Grey had once: Stark (since hes lazy) has the ability of mind control and fulfills Renjis wishes of making him defeat Byakuya... though, Aizen could do that too~

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 09:48 PM
Aye, and I still support that theory. If Renji is a main character (and so far only loses >_>) he deserves to defeat the person he always wished to defeat: Byakuya. But he wouldn't just "Hey, we are in a war and we are allies, but I'll defeat you ok?".

If Stark mind controls Byakuya, and since he is lazy that power would fit, it would be great.

Ofc that alone wouldn't be enough, Stark would reveal his other power after and get pwned by Rukia :>.

Shdo
03-03-2008, 09:51 PM
exactly...idiotic grey.

as for stark having mind control, isnt it a little too similer to zomari control of the body or aizen illusions?

Grey1x
03-03-2008, 09:54 PM
Aye, retarded Shdo, it would be similar to Zomari and Aizen, that's why I tell it would be an hint of his power and not his true power. Besides, a top 3 espada power shouldn't be something of relying on the power of others, that's why I'd say it as a sub-power.

Luhy
03-03-2008, 10:01 PM
Theory: The hanging bodies were Yoruichi and Soi Fon who got there early... Halibel tries to take Orihime back and gets everyone to near-death but her~ somehow Mayuri heals them and Yoruichi stops her just before killing someone... Soi FOn handles all 3 fraccions while Yoruichi fights her... she releases... Soi Fon joins in... they defeat her and make-out~ <3

shinigami13
03-03-2008, 11:04 PM
Theory: The hanging bodies were Yoruichi and Soi Fon who got there early... Halibel tries to take Orihime back and gets everyone to near-death but her~ somehow Mayuri heals them and Yoruichi stops her just before killing someone... Soi FOn handles all 3 fraccions while Yoruichi fights her... she releases... Soi Fon joins in... they defeat her and make-out~ <3

YAY LUYH IS HERE

another theory...

ichigo dies in the end altho he is the spirit king hehe

phantomfork
03-04-2008, 02:31 AM
how does hollows have families?i wonder how it works.

You know I'm still scratching my head over Szayel/Ilforte being brothers. Did they just run into each other in HM and go, "Hey you have the same last name as me! Come 'er bro!!!" I doubt they could remember each other from before they became hollows.

Luhy
03-04-2008, 04:23 AM
that's why I think they can reproduce... otherwise females wouldn't have breasts... (unless every sexual organ is cosmetic)

Soranushi
03-04-2008, 05:04 AM
Szayel&Ilfort were brothers before becoming hollows so when they were still alive.

Shdo
03-04-2008, 09:52 AM
menos who are used to create arrancars are some weird sum of the souls they have, this is why they got this weird names.
so being a real life brothers is very unlikely.

Mad_Scientist
03-04-2008, 10:43 AM
Crazy theory #1:

(EDIT: Just realized this theory does have some spoilers if you don't read the mana, so I inclosed it in tags just in case.)

There are two hougyokus. The first one was made ages ago, and it's creators tried to destroy it. The reason is because there's something weird about the hougyoku and the nature of its powers, so it has some abilities that are completely separate from breaking down the barrior between Hollows and Shinigami, and those abilities are what are so dangerous.

Soul Society's attempts to destroy it didn't go so well, though, and at last they attempted a unique procedure that was done at a certain place of extremely potent spiritual energy in the human world. It didn't go as planned, and wiped out the 100,000 human souls in the area. It also created the first King's Key as a side effect, and seemingly destroyed the hougyoku. But in fact, the hougyoku was merely badly damaged and stuck between dimensions, and it eventually made it's way to Hueco Mundo.

Years later, history repeated itself partially, and Urahara made another hougyoku, not having access to any of the information about the first one and therefore not knowing what else it would be able to do. (As all the records were heavily sealed.) He at least didn't try the same method of destroying it, and instead sealed it in Rukia.

Aizen came into the possession of the first hougyoku, and used it to create many of the early Espada. It wasn't at full power, though, and eventually gave out completely. It's seemingly useless now, but with Orihime's power could be restored. And somehow, the fact that Aizen actually has two hougyoku's is going to be a big part in his plan to manipulate Orihime into doing what he wants even though she thinks she isn't.

Evidence for crazy theory #1:

Aizen said that without the hougyoku, he cannot create the King's Key. There are a few different ways one might interpret that statement, but I find it interesting, and it might mean that the hougyoku is directly involved in creating the King's Key. Which brings up interesting questions.

Arrancar like Nel and Nnoitra, and 2 who were more powerful than either of them, have existed for years... yet Aizen stated that none of his experiments lived up to his expectations. It makes one wonder. What were Aizen's expectations? Or were Nel and Nnoitra and the 2 above them not the result of Aizen's experiements, but of something else?

And finally, Urahara sealed his hougyoku the moment it was created almost, which to me implies that at the very least my idea about it having some unexpected powers must be right. Because it seems to me it would be kind of odd for him to be all, "Hey, I think I'll make something that can break down the barrior between Hollow and Shinigami... yes, I'll do that!" *works on it for who knows how long* "Yes! It's completed! And it's perfect, it's... OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE! I made something that can break down the barrior between Hollow and Shinigami! This is too dangerous! Must seal!"

Crazy theory #2 to be posted later.

Shdo
03-04-2008, 10:57 AM
i am not sure about the nature of the orb but its sound to me a little unlikly that anyone can create something that cannot be destroyed. i think that urahara didnt made it, they say he have to hide the truth, this thing is much more sinister then we know and the king realm is sealed for a reason.

when they say that the king require 100000 souls its sound to me like a sacrifice.

phantomfork
03-04-2008, 11:18 AM
Szayel&Ilfort were brothers before becoming hollows so when they were still alive.

Right, that's probably true, but I was just saying that they most likely couldn't recall any memories from their human lives that would confirm that they were brothers. Well, actually, that might not be true, because of Inoue's brother. In that case it might depend upon what was preventing them from passing on once they died. So they may have remembered each other from that time.

menos who are used to create arrancars are some weird sum of the souls they have, this is why they got this weird names.
so being a real life brothers is very unlikely.

But hollows have names that are known to them before they become arrancar, like Grand Fisher, Acidwire, etc. Plus isn't there only one dominant personality that takes over menos once it becomes adjuca? (Aaroniero, being the exception.)

when they say that the king require 100000 souls its sound to me like a sacrifice.

Or that whoever sealed it in the first place really didn't want that realm to ever be opened. Disturbs the balence in the universe and what not. Maybe the "king" or ruling family or whatever is evil. I kinda like that idea. It leaves room for crazier enemies in the future.

Shdo
03-04-2008, 11:26 AM
as i see it its all about the names.
normal hollows have names like the shrieker and acidwire or grand fisher. in this stage they still have their original personality and memories but twisted.
as time pass they become more and more like the mindless hollows, usally after they dont have any reason to stick to their old life, for example if sora had killed orihime he would have lost his memories after a while, the shriker on the other hand had that boy to keep him in contact and the grand fisher most likely continued his true love which is fishing...


after they lose their mind and eat one another they become a gilian and now they have a weird combo of names and the result are verbal horrors such as Neliel Tu Oderschvank, Aaroniero Arruruerie or Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio.
by this time they dont really have a clear memory of their past and are more like senna cuz they have so many personalities that at least effect them.

igniz
03-04-2008, 11:26 AM
menos who are used to create arrancars are some weird sum of the souls they have, this is why they got this weird names.
so being a real life brothers is very unlikely.

When a menos elvoves one of the soul become dominent and his individuality come back (it is said in Grimmjow's flashback).

Shdo
03-04-2008, 11:32 AM
that is why i say its affected by some.

who the hell will call their child grimjow?!

igniz
03-04-2008, 11:49 AM
I've heard some of the names were inspired from actual people, like Zaera Polo (was some architect) for Szayzel , seem that Grimmjow is completely make up though.

Shdo
03-04-2008, 11:56 AM
what i mean is that the names of arrancars are very diffrent thenthe names of old hollows. arrancars names are actually could be considerd names while hollow names are more like description.

the only one to get out of this theory is grandfisher but i dont really consider him an arrancar, to me he was really a failure.

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 12:36 PM
that's why I think they can reproduce... otherwise females wouldn't have breasts... (unless every sexual organ is cosmetic)

Male Hollows also have reproductive organs.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/grey1x/M7_Bleach_Ch269_11.png

Now, I also found out something when searching for this... The scene ends with "And what exactly... do you want me to do?" After those words, I think the chance that the "new threat" is Stark is really high. What you say?

Shdo
03-04-2008, 12:41 PM
first, if an arrancar have balls that dosnt mean a hollow have balls.

secondly he said that in relation to Aaro death so either he will head that way meaning he wont meet ichigo but rukia, or that he got some kind of power to revive the dead(that is why she ask if he is fine with Aaro death and he, as a lazy guy asks if she wants him to revive Aaro.)

Suzumega
03-04-2008, 02:36 PM
Yay, crazy theory time!
Ok, my turn: Not only Arrancar can reproduce, they've already "developed" noble families, consisting of natural Arrancars and their children (who are born as Arrancar), who ruled Hueco Mundo before Aizen. However when he came he killed most of them, including the king and majority of his offspring. The surviving ones "licked their wounds" for years, but now they'll reemerge and join the shinigami in their fight with Aizen, then steal the Hougyoku and become the new villians.
Oh, and there will be a Hollow princess who'll fall in love with Ichigo, of course XP

Shdo
03-04-2008, 02:45 PM
ofcourse...hell maybe those arrancars nobles are the vaisards in disguise? they trained ichigo so that he will do their dirty work and then...blamo!

Revan1990
03-04-2008, 03:49 PM
Aizen was once Yammamotos VC, then he wnated to become Capatain Commander himself, but somehow he lost to Yamma, so that he is now trying to surpass his own limits and to kill yamma and becoming a god, surpassing his former captain...

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 05:46 PM
That's a good theory, would justify lots of things.

Luhy
03-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Theory: If some magical way, the group thats in HM right now kills the top 4 + Aizen/Gin/Tousen, the Vaizards will be the new enemy for some reason, and the main group will need to need to fight them~ (Ichigo Rukia Renji Hitsugaya Matsumoto Ikkaku Chad Uryu)

Revan1990
03-04-2008, 08:01 PM
well thats an intersting theory and it could be, cuz i think Kubo will change the enemys soon...
my guess is that the Vizard help to kill Aizen + friends and then they take the Orb-thingy for themselfs...

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 09:00 PM
well thats an intersting theory and it could be, cuz i think Kubo will change the enemys soon...
my guess is that the Vizard help to kill Aizen + friends and then they take the Orb-thingy for themselfs...

Like i use to say, that would be a good theory but the Vaizards are too cool for that >_>.

Luhy
03-04-2008, 09:28 PM
indeed~ most things i say aren't meant to be taken seriously, lol

the Vaizard's MAY turn on Ichigo if he relies on his own powers vs. his Vaizard powers, since he did officially join them~ who knows at this point, but everything is wide open now that the remaining enemies in Heuco Mundo seem far too powerful for the good guys that are currently there... maybe Shinji comes to save Ichigo from Ulquiorra this time, and forces him to come back to train ;p

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 09:32 PM
ANOTHER THEORY: Unlike all the other vaizards Ichigo is stronger without his Vaizard Mask. But to justify this I'll have to go with something first:
Vaizards: Those who seek the path of Vaizards are those who can't destroy their inner hollow, they can temporarily eradicate him, but not destroy him, thus, his powers remain there. However, those who can destroy it, don't go vaizard and are hella strong. Like, relying on his Hollow powers is like *betraying* Zangetsu. Also, Ichigo needs a power up, and he doesn't have much time, he needs A SUDDEN power up.

Luhy
03-04-2008, 09:47 PM
something similar to that is probably most likely to happen I think, Grey~ Ichigo will find some sort of balance or something and reach "Perfect Hybrid"

Theory: Komamura was a guardian of something and failed to protect it... so he had a spell cast on him, turning him into a fox (The Fox is the symbol of a guardian) and given the surname Komamura... but Yamamoto rescued him from a lifetime of servitude or something...

Revan1990
03-04-2008, 10:04 PM
good theory Luhy...but I like mine better...^^
Kommamura was a simple fox then Mayuri found him and did some crazy expreimets and now he is half human half fox...

Mayuri (standing next to a big iron bed): IT'S ALIVE!!

Mad_Scientist
03-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Crazy Theory #2, heavy spoilers if you don't read the manga.


Ok, first of all, there's a different between the anime and manga on whether or not souls attacked by Hollows sometimes become Hollows themselves. In the anime, this happened with Orihime's brother, but in the manga we never saw how he became a Hollow and it was never explicitly stated that souls attacked by Hollows ever became them. But, there was one line by Rukia which implied that might happen sometimes. So this theory of mine assumes that is the case, and that souls attacked by Hollows may on occasion reform into Hollows themselves.

Putting that aside for now, I also think that most menos class Hollows don't retain many memories of their time as normal Hollows, let alone memories of their time as a normal human. But I think that on rare occasion a menos may retain some memories of the normal Hollow and even human life of whichever Hollow is the dominant personality. So, with these things in mind, onto my crazy theory:

Nnoitra and Nel knew each other in real life, and were rather close to each other. Possibly husband and wife, or if not, very close friends, or maybe family. Whatever the case, they both cared for each other deeply.

But Nel died and became a Hollow, and then attacked Nnoitra and killed him, turning him into a Hollow in the process. Fast foward into the future, and they both have become menos and later arrancar. By that time, Nnoitra has forgotten everything about the time he was a human. But Nel hasn't. She recognizes Nnoitra, but can only remember 2 things: that she cared for him a lot while still alive, and that she was the one who killed him and turned him into a Hollow.

That is the reason Nel seems to have such an interest in Nnoitra, and why she protected him and refused to kill him. It wasn't just "because he was weaker than her", after all, at the time of Nel's injury she was #3 and he was #8, there were plenty of Espada weaker than Nel, and a couple weaker than Nnoitra.

Evidence for Crazy Theory #2:

Very little. In fact, it's pretty much just speculation, but notice how Nnoitra's release was a praying mantis related one. When this was first revealed, many people joked about the fact that female praying mantises sometimes eat their mates, and were saying that maybe that's the source of Nnoitra's dislike for women. But, if my theory is true, depending on what their relationship while humans was, Nnoitra may have really been eaten by his mate... by Nel, his dead wife turned Hollow.

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 10:43 PM
Yes, and Komamura is the key to Dracula's sons (10 points to who get the reference)

EDIT: What a great spin off theory you got there mad-scientist. It would actually be great and logical if it went that way.

Revan1990
03-04-2008, 10:46 PM
the key to draculas sons?? I would say he is dracuals worst enemy, cuz he look like a werwolf and they seem to be able to kill Dracula...xD(Van Helsing, anyone?)

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 10:47 PM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, mistaken. That's not it Revan.

You got close.

HINT: It is indeed related to Van Helsing.

Revan1990
03-04-2008, 10:52 PM
I dont really remember the movie...but wasn't there a scene where dracula bond the werwolf on some kind of iron table and then he was strucked by lightning a few times, so that the energy or something like that would help to awaken or give life to dracuals sons...??

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 10:55 PM
OK I'll say it out:

You first made a reference to Frankenstein, or atleast seems so. Cuz the one who shouted "IT'S ALIVE!" was Frankenstein. So, you are saying Komamura is our Frankenstein's Monster, in Van Hellsing, Frankenstein's monster was the key for the Dracula sons, there you go.

Revan1990
03-04-2008, 10:59 PM
damn it, I was so close...!
yeah right now i remeber that...they tryed it with the werwolf, but his body was to weak or whatever for it, so they had to use frankenstein's very attractive monster...(dont anyone dare to ask any stupid question, this is sarcasm!)

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 11:01 PM
You sir, err I mean, kid, obviously have no sense of attractiveness. I'm not sure if they tried it with the werewolf, the only thing said about Werewolfs was that they were THE ONLY specie that could kill a Dracula, as such Van Helsing turned into a werewolf and the other girl killed herself to give him the antidote, after he had killed the Dracula.

Shdo
03-04-2008, 11:02 PM
try to return to topic...not movies.

what is komumura? i mean its the most unknown captain, we know NOTHING about him and he have a head of a FOX!!

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 11:02 PM
and the body of a MAN. Has this been comproved? Cuz maybe he is also a fox under his clothes ._.

Shdo
03-04-2008, 11:04 PM
actually i am quite sure the rest of him is hairy as well.

Grey1x
03-04-2008, 11:05 PM
Well, he can still be a man with a disease that causes overgrowth of body hair >_>.

Soranushi
03-06-2008, 12:29 AM
Konamura is like a Fox/Wolf demon that was born is the Soul Society thats the only way I can explain why he looks like a Fox/Wolf.

iNSOMNiA
03-06-2008, 01:14 AM
and the body of a MAN. Has this been comproved? Cuz maybe he is also a fox under his clothes ._.

What if its the body of a woman?

...Yeah... You think about that... >>;;

Shdo
03-06-2008, 01:25 AM
he is the kyubi and got 9 tails.

couch_kamote
03-06-2008, 03:01 AM
In one of the episodes in the SS Arc, Koma reffered to Yamamoto as someone who saved his life. He also commented on being loyal to him in any decision he makes.

Koma could have been the soul of a dead foxl, which Yama saved and taught how to be a shinigami.

rvngu
03-06-2008, 04:27 PM
ichigo someone uses the orb on himself and gets awesome powers!

couch_kamote
03-07-2008, 01:19 AM
Ichigo using the orb to gain more power?

Hmmm.

I think that's quite possible since we all know he can't beat Aizen in his current state. He has to get stronger in a short time. Since there's no possibility for him to train in Las Noches, I guess there's only two possible ways to make him more powerful.

First one is to use th orb on himself, the other one is to leave Las Noches after getting Inoue and train with the Vaizards.

rvngu
03-07-2008, 01:24 AM
yeah but training would be too long. aizen`s plan is pretty good, going to the town before they have time to heal/regroup.

couch_kamote
03-07-2008, 01:47 AM
Yeah, he caught everyone off guard. They thought Aizen was about to wait for the winter before moving.

shinikage
03-07-2008, 08:57 AM
A weird thought, possible to happen but with extremely low possibility:
Hougyoku doesn't only turn shinigami-hollow and otherwise. It can transform any soul to other soul type, although the transformation won't be complete (hollow->arrancar instead of shinigami). Other results: shini-cat (yoruichi), shini-fox (komamura), shinikage :p

Soranushi
03-07-2008, 10:29 AM
I saw this on another forum and decided to post it here.

What if Vastolorde hollows are actually Vizards that lost the fight to their Inner Hollow it does make some sense as in why VL are so rare and thats why its harder for Normal Hollows to evovle to that level. Also partial transformed Ichigo was Humanoid/Human-like in appearance. Hell maybe thats what Demon Skull Ichigo is VL perfect hybrid Vizard meaning he fully accepted Shirosaki as a part of him. I think this is a pretty cool theory even though its is a crazy theory in my opinion.

melboyd~
03-07-2008, 12:08 PM
it has the possibility. it really is cool if vastro lordes are vaizards who lost to their inner hollow. but when ichigo nearly lost to his inner hollow his form was very hollowish and was far from looking humanoid...maybe VLs has the ability to whether stay in humanoid form or hollow form, they just need to pick one :P
hm, could the VLs be the espadas that lost to their inner shinigami? XP

Shdo
03-07-2008, 12:24 PM
so if a VL is a vaisard losing to their hollows then what will be the result if you use the orb on them?
well the real question is how vaisard are made, i doubt that they are all the same as ichigo and got the powers at the same way...but then we dont even know how shinigamis are made...

rvngu
03-07-2008, 04:32 PM
but in grimmjow's flashback, it just seemed that you just can't eat more hollows to reach VL level, there's something else.....

shinikage
03-08-2008, 04:03 AM
Hmm.. that theory seems possible. That explains how grimmjow has never been able to be vastolorde. But i still believe that VL are from adjuchas, transforming under special condition.

Soranushi
03-08-2008, 10:12 PM
Actually the theory doesn't negate the possibility of an adjucas becoming a VL through eating hollows or any other process they under go to become one. It just opens up the door to more possibility's of how VL's come into existence.

Rain
03-08-2008, 11:05 PM
Soranushi- thats a cool theory

it could be why we haven't seen the Vizards do much yet, or why there have been no confirmed VL's yet

Another of my crazy theory, there is a level of hollow/menos above VL

my only reason, this is shonen, so theres always another level:p

shinebunny
03-09-2008, 02:08 AM
My turn!

I'm completely convinced that Ryuken has some history with Masaki, and that's why he hates Isshin and blames shinigami for her death. I like the idea of her being his little sister (making Ichigo the Most Uber-Powerful Spiritual Being Evah and Ishida's cousin to boot) but I also like the theory that he was in love with her.

Reasons? Well, besides the hate for shinigami (esp. Isshin) it's his smoking. We know that Masaki told Isshin that he 'looked cool' while smoking. When Isshin meets Ryuuken again, he remarks that he's still smoking, even after so much time, and the fact that he is a doctor and should no better. Hmmm.

Crack theory: Rangiku was Orihime's mother. I know it's crack, and I'm embarassed to admit I even though of it. But I dunno, it's kind of interesting for though... Has anyone read Full Moon wo Sagashite? o.o (It's a shoujo series).

I think that a) the shinigami might have some association with the living or b) Orihime's past is somehow going to factor into this. I mean, we don't even know who the girl's parents are - just that they were 'monsters' and her brother took her out of the household.

Both theories show that I have been reading way too much Arina Tanemura. T_T But I thought I'd add them. Everyone's else's are so fun to read, crack or no. ^^

shinikage
03-09-2008, 03:40 AM
Adding to my crazy theory above, i think orihime and chad's transformations are not only because of contact with ichigo, but also related to contact with hougyoku (= rukia). So the whole story from the beginning is about hougyoku.

Grey1x
03-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Here comes a wacko theory.

Ever since the day Ichigo fought Grand Fisher I thought he would be the "Final Boss" of Bleach. But then I thought that Ichigo has been evolving in power really fast, so GF would be too weak... But then I remembered, GF can get stronger too.

Now, GF is dead... right, but what if (and put a big IF on it) it was just an illusion? By some reason, Aizen made that illusion, maybe for GF himself understand more about Ichigo / Isshin new powers. Or some other reason.

Now, about the power, look.
Ichigo from GF fight till now he got:
New Zanpaktou -> Shikai -> Bankai -> Vaizard.
GF COULD get:
Gillian -> Adjucha -> Vastro Lorde -> Arrancar.

I wouldn't say he would be THE main boss, cuz Bleach is more a "I'll avenge my friends" than "I'll avenge my family", but he could be the 2nd main boss, before Ichigo fights Aizen. It would fit as Ichigo really want to kill that bastard. Besides, Kubo wouldn't make a chapter when Ichigo even cries and everything cuz of what GF had done... and then get him killed by a single slash.

Shdo
03-09-2008, 02:33 PM
no.




but its true that bleach kills off major bad guys too fast.
GF killed his mother and he got killed like nothing. Aaro was kaien and didnt meet ukitake\kukaku\ganju\ichigo i would loved to see him meeting them instead of rukia(very boring fight that annoyed me as hell)

Grey1x
03-09-2008, 03:03 PM
Shdo you may hate Rukia but that makes no sense. The most senseful enemy for Aaro was undoubtedly Rukia.

Shdo
03-09-2008, 03:22 PM
who give a damn about her with him? it is kaien so i cant kill him, its not him so i can kill him, but now it is him so i cant kill him, wait he is in my heart so i can kill him...boring.


ganju meeting kaien would be more intresting, kukaku as well. ukitake could show new flashbacks which would be much more intresting and ichigo facing him would just be funny.

couch_kamote
03-10-2008, 12:40 AM
Though I think Rukia should be the one to finish off Kaien, I think meeting up and fighting with Ukitake and the other people in Bleach that he was close to before he died would make a better story.

Oh, and it really sucked how he dies so fast. He wasn't alone though, Esapada #7 was killed easily too.

Luhy
03-10-2008, 12:41 AM
I woulda loved to see Kenpachi vs Aeroniero... imagine him needing to cut his body down... he was like the size of a foot-ball field XP

Now that Stark was sent to do grunt-work I don't see him as being number 1... those who get early exposure tend to be introduced sooner... makes me think he might be 3...

I think Halibel's hole is her jaw/face and her hollow-skin is in the form of fangs or teeth ;p

couch_kamote
03-10-2008, 01:00 AM
The old man arrancar could be number 1. It would be cool though to see Halibel as number 1.

Hmm. So your saying that Halibel's Hole and Hollow Skin is both on her face?

That could be possible since she's covering her lower face, just like Nnoitora did with his eye.

Luhy
03-10-2008, 01:10 AM
i think so... it would be a huge "omg ; ;" to the all the pervs out there XD I think theres a reason her outfit covers her from the nose, down... it's not because she's cold... cuz' well... look at the skin she reveals lol

I wanna see Wonderweiss accidentally release, kill the old man, and take whatever number he is ;o (wont happen i know ;p)

couch_kamote
03-10-2008, 01:44 AM
I think Wonderweiss should be promoted to an Espada. Since a lot of them died already.

Luhy
03-10-2008, 02:21 AM
it probably takes a long time to be promoted... the 3 Captain's haven't been replaced yet, and I would imagine replacing an Espada takes almost just as long ;x I wonder how their numbers change... looks like they're permanently tattoo'd on o.o

couch_kamote
03-10-2008, 07:16 AM
Yeah, Nnoitora used to be number 8 right?

I wonder how he changed his number to number 5.

Do you remember the scene where Grimmjow killed Luppi? I think there's a clue there.

Luhy
03-10-2008, 07:27 AM
Was he? I'm not sure... but it makes sense with his lust for power... I just remember than Nel was 3, but she was 3 long ago, and not necessarily as strong as the number 3 today would be...

I think Grimmjow had his back scarred where his 6 was, kinda like how his chest looks~ then Inoue healed it back to how it was ;x

Theory: Inoue's new super-shield was a result of her feeling her friends dying when they came to save her, causing her to feel helpless, thus, making her will to protect much stronger now that she's with them... If Aizen destroy all of Karakura Town, I would imagine that her remembering school, her home, Tatsuki, would enrage her with the will to kill, and possibly do serious damage with Tsubaki next time she used it, if not, reject the death of all 10,000 souls~

couch_kamote
03-10-2008, 08:22 AM
I think that's really possible given that we already know that one of her powers is the reject anything. Like I said in BF she only needs inspiration or the will to do it.

Although I believe that this is true, I wouldn't think that TK would do this in the story since it would look more like Dragon Ball.

shinikage
03-10-2008, 02:45 PM
I think the thing she reject is related to how much reiatsu is needed. So i think rejecting 1000 death is too much ^_^
But i think she has once rejected death, those two arrancar girl's death. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Theory: Aizen has done some experiments to Matsumoto.
Reason: Her boobs are too big :D

Luhy
03-11-2008, 01:04 AM
and that could be why theres space between her and Gin ;o

Theory: Komamura's dad was a drunk and his mom was a fox~ o.o

couch_kamote
03-12-2008, 08:16 AM
Hmmm... That answers the question about why he looks like a fox. Poor mom though, she never knew what was coming to her. Shame on his dad, taking advantage of a poor helpless fox lady.

Soranushi
03-16-2008, 06:50 AM
Okay can someone tell me a couple theory's about Ichigo Being the spirit king or Orihime being related to the king aswell? Thats if you know any

melboyd~
03-16-2008, 08:51 AM
i dun know any, but there was smtg said abt ichigo and inoue are actually siblings, based on their hair color :P very weak theory (and i dun concur to that). orihime, though, have the 'hime' character attached on her name... so who knows..

and i dun think ichigo is the spirit king in any way..that's too extravagant.

Grey1x
03-16-2008, 11:10 AM
and that could be why theres space between her and Gin ;o

Theory: Komamura's dad was a drunk and his mom was a fox~ o.o

Like I said in BF: There's a study in a certain country that in every 100 women one had done sex with an animal at least once, so that's possible. :lmao

shinikage
03-16-2008, 12:12 PM
Another theory : Ichimaru is actually a good guy and is trying to backstab aizen

reason:

1. He said to Matsumoto he wanted to be held a little longer before leaving SS. Somehow it makes me think that he actually didn't want to go but thought that he had to.

2. Ichimaru said that he was an impure being, when he was with tousen and wonderweiss. He said that with his usual fake smile, though. But it makes me think that he keeps blaming himself, hating what he is doing.

Both are weak proofs, though >_<

couch_kamote
03-17-2008, 02:59 AM
Hmm...I actually don't understand the reason why Gin is so loyal to Aizen. Aizen said that he considered only one person as his true vice-captain, and that was Gin. Aside from that, he never said any thing on why Gin was so loyal to him. Of course Gin didn't say anything too, he usually just smiles. :yay

rvngu
03-17-2008, 04:59 PM
Like I said in BF: There's a study in a certain country that in every 100 women one had done sex with an animal at least once, so that's possible. :lmao

was it worldwide study or just study from that country?

a crazy theory is that gin is actually the one controlling aizen.

Luhy
03-17-2008, 05:59 PM
Hmm...I actually don't understand the reason why Gin is so loyal to Aizen. Aizen said that he considered only one person as his true vice-captain, and that was Gin. Aside from that, he never said any thing on why Gin was so loyal to him. Of course Gin didn't say anything too, he usually just smiles. :yay

yup yup... It's because Gin is his cabana-boy... just like Wonderweiss and Tousen o.o...

Theory: the reason Yoruichi doesn't have a Zanpakutou anymore is because she gave it to Soi Fon (meaning Soi Fons Zanpakutou isn't her own) ;x

Knix-D-Meercat
03-21-2008, 06:43 AM
Ulquiorra was the "L" before he died in the hands (Uh? deathnote..) of Lam. Seeking for revenge, L became a furious hollow and eventually evolved to VL and was recruited into the ranks of Arrancars.

Wonderweiss was Near on his human life....

Lionpaw
03-23-2008, 08:12 AM
Tousen lost his eyes due to a fight with Kenpachi before he met Yachiru.

Grey1x
03-24-2008, 12:56 PM
Sticky! Woah! I'm proud that it got sticky ;D.

Here goes a weird theory:

The old man espada isn't Chad's abuelo like many ppl thinks, but a friend of Chad's abuelo.

But first I need to explain something else:

I think that Chad's abuelo is an arrancar. As far as I remember, the stronger a Menos was, the more humanish he would become, which means, Chad's abuelo would be pretty strong since we haven't seen any signs of his mask and hole. I think that him and the old man espada were both arrancars and strong friends. I believe that Chad's abuelo engaged in a fierce fight where he had to use all of his Hollow powers and doing that made him go mad. The old man helped him come to his normal self, and sealed half of his powers in a medallion. The medallion that was given to Chad. But little did Chad's abuelo know, that Chad also had his own powers, and that would wake the medallion, making him have his powers and half of his abuelo's powers.

So I think Chad will fight the Old Man, will be losing pretty hard against an unreleased. But then the old man tells his backstory. Says that they were strong friends blablabla, and then... then he betrayed his abuelo for his own good. This would make Chad go insane, since he cares so much about friendship, and wake his own power, giving him a huge power boost. He would then win the fight.

I pray for this to happen :wtf.

Revan1990
03-24-2008, 03:25 PM
my theory is that Youruichi and Tousen are siblings or at least related in some way...if you look closely at them, both are the only dark skinned ppl in Bleach, their hair color is almost the same, the height too and of course: they are both captain lvl, which means a great amount of reiatsu. Plus we don't know very much about them or their backstory...
Anyway, I believe they don't know that thei are siblings for some reason...^^

Shdo
03-24-2008, 04:14 PM
maybe because he is blind they decided to throw him out when he was born. isnt both their hair is purple?

Revan1990
03-24-2008, 04:22 PM
maybe because he is blind they decided to throw him out when he was born
could be

isnt both their hair is purple?
indeed^^

Ninira
03-24-2008, 04:40 PM
Ulquiorra was the "L" before he died in the hands (Uh? deathnote..) of Lam. Seeking for revenge, L became a furious hollow and eventually evolved to VL and was recruited into the ranks of Arrancars.

Wonderweiss was Near on his human life....

Actually, I think Light is Aizen, Misa is Hinamori (making Rem Hitsugaya), Mikami is Ulquiorra, Ryuk is Gin, Takada is (a rather unfortunate) Tousen, L is Urahara, Near is (another unfortunate) Ururu, Mello is Jinta, and Watari is Tessai.

This of course means that Ichigo is Matsuda.

EX|pada #0
03-24-2008, 06:01 PM
My crack theory is that Rukia is from the royal family. Lemme see, when people die, even they are from the same family, they don't go to the Soul Society together, right? Plus, they don't remember each other, but Hisana remembered that Rukia is your sister! Strange, not? Hisana's history about Rukia is too much suspicious.

Second, the original family name of Rukia never was revealed.

Third, her purest and prettiest zanpakuto of Soul Society may have something to do with the royal family.

Revan1990
03-24-2008, 06:38 PM
your theory is nice, but can't ppl be born in SS?? I guess so...that would mean that she possibly was just born there...

Anyway I have another Theory about Yoruichi...that cat transformation of her, is the Shikai ability of her Zanpaktou...if you think about it, this makes sense, cuz 1. we do not know anything about her zanpaktou
2. she does not use it, but why? maybe because it isnt for battle
3. She was the captain of the Special Forces, right? that means something like assassins...well is there a better disguise then a black cat?

EX|pada #0
03-24-2008, 06:47 PM
your theory is nice, but can't ppl be born in SS?? I guess so...that would mean that she possibly was just born there...

Yes, its possible too. But where's her father and mother then? I guess if she Rukia really was born in SS, they should be revealed in some way. Damn, her backstory with Hisana is so misterious... and we still have the Sode no Shirayuki thing... well, let me dream XD

chuzpe.x
03-24-2008, 10:53 PM
my theory about hisana/rukia:
originally hisana was the one who was supposed to get the houyoku (or what its called). but something went wrong and the houyoku got rejected by her spiritual body, in that process the houyoku kinda split hisana, took most of her soul with it and created rukia as an accident. thats why they resemble each other so much and hisana was so weak and died early.

more theories:
- don kanonji and isshin are brothers
- jinta is gaara. urahara snucked him into bleach to fill the training grounds under his shop and in SS with sand :p

Revan1990
03-24-2008, 11:27 PM
Yes, its possible too. But where's her father and mother then? I guess if she Rukia really was born in SS, they should be revealed in some way.

well I guess it will be revealed sooner or later...and we dont now anything about Renji's parents either...or hitsugaya's...or hinamori's

Shdo
03-25-2008, 12:06 AM
when people die they do have memories, some lose theirs and its seems that its shinigamis or high reitsu ones.

as for how rukia and her sister got there together, there are many ways two people can die together OR the sister died and then rukia died a day later from starvation, since the sister was attached to rukia she didnt moved to the next world until she had rukia as well, then after she had rukia soul they were eventually found by shinigamis.

sora stayed in the background for years until the hollows found him.

EX|pada #0
03-25-2008, 08:27 AM
when people die they do have memories, some lose theirs and its seems that its shinigamis or high reitsu ones.

Really sorry Shdo, I'm not doubting you or something, but where it's mentioned? I just don't remember =\

Shdo
03-25-2008, 08:33 AM
remember the little kid that was in that bird? when he became a spirit he remebered his mother, and when he went to SS he remembered her and chad. one of his new 'family' was a kid who died in WW2 in some city. that pretty much proves some1 remember something but lets look at what high spirit remember, when gin and matsumoto meet as childrens he asks her about her birthday and she say she dont know so he tell her that the day she meet him is her birthday, it might be a special case but...in the first movie it was said that for a shinigami to keep their memories is really rare.

EX|pada #0
03-25-2008, 01:42 PM
Hmm, ok, you're right, sorry.

Grey1x
03-25-2008, 01:53 PM
your theory is nice, but can't ppl be born in SS?? I guess so...that would mean that she possibly was just born there...

Anyway I have another Theory about Yoruichi...that cat transformation of her, is the Shikai ability of her Zanpaktou...if you think about it, this makes sense, cuz 1. we do not know anything about her zanpaktou
2. she does not use it, but why? maybe because it isnt for battle
3. She was the captain of the Special Forces, right? that means something like assassins...well is there a better disguise then a black cat?

Really nice one. It indeed makes a lot of sense. Felines are also known for her speed, and what's her battle style? SPEED. SO her bankai probably gives her some feline marks that increase her agility by a lot.


No1 commented my Chad theory :hm.

Shdo
03-25-2008, 02:50 PM
then this is the worst shikai ever.

Revan1990
03-25-2008, 03:10 PM
oh i wouldn't say that...it depends for what you want to use it for...I think for a spy or assassin it would be a great Shikai

Shdo
03-25-2008, 06:36 PM
assasing no. spy maybe assuming there are no dogs or sadistic spy target.

Grey1x
03-25-2008, 06:40 PM
I disagree so much there Shdo. Not good for assassin? She could just hide as a cat and when people appears she morphs to human at the person's back. Really nice theory Revan.

Still no1 commented my Chad theory :hm.

Shdo
03-25-2008, 06:47 PM
yes...many targets have black cats just running around in their house. not to mention that when she deactivate it she is butt naked and dont really have anyweapon including a sword so that alone blow the theory.

Grey Day
03-30-2008, 01:50 PM
I have a theorie and one day I will prove it ..... If I had a labratory and some scientists >.>

People can be in two places at the same time if they move in Really FAST speed
(0.0000000001 sec at each place )
.... But even if it WAS true the person wont know whats really going on since everything is blury from moving soo fast ... :\

Revan1990
03-30-2008, 02:13 PM
yes...many targets have black cats just running around in their house. not to mention that when she deactivate it she is butt naked and dont really have anyweapon including a sword so that alone blow the theory.

not in their house, but maybe outside? You just have to wait, in cat form, util the person wents to sleep(I guess even from outside you can see that) the you sneak into the house, which isn't that difficult as a cat...well and then you transform back, kill your target and leave...

People can be in two places at the same time if they move in Really FAST speed
(0.0000000001 sec at each place )
.... But even if it WAS true the person wont know whats really going on since everything is blury from moving soo fast ... :\
wouldn't moving in such high speed crush the human body??

Orihime-Chan
03-30-2008, 02:25 PM
Masaki was originally Aizen's fiancée, when she ran away with Isshin his best friend, Aizen swore revenge on generations to come. That's why he kidnapped Hime to get back at Ichigo the son of his unfaithful fiancée and best friend... XDD

Grey Day
03-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Revan: hmmmm... I've never thought of that really :\

Revan1990
03-30-2008, 04:01 PM
grey day: lol, well you are right, theoretical you can be in two places at the same time if you are fast enough, but practically the human body can't take such forces, I think...
but maybe you can just invent something to make this possible^^

Grey1x
03-30-2008, 04:31 PM
One day I'll invent something that manipulates the atoms, making it so it desintegrates the atoms and I turn into gas, so I can move around freely and fast o.o.
Ok this is impossible.

But it could be possible to make it so it changes the atoms to a certain position, all at the same time, making it so the atoms forming the human body stick togheter, being able to teleport ;D.

Revan1990
03-30-2008, 04:41 PM
But it could be possible to make it so it changes the atoms to a certain position, all at the same time, making it so the atoms forming the human body stick togheter, being able to teleport ;D.

lol would be great if we had something that makes this possible xD like from Germany to Portugal in about 2 seconds lol
unfortunately teleportation is,physically, impossible

Grey Day
03-30-2008, 04:44 PM
Grey your the best .... hopefully we CAN meet IRL and work on this


And test it on some ppl here

>.>

<.<

Grey1x
03-30-2008, 05:12 PM
Ofc Grey ;D. Revan, want to be our testing guy?

Revan, teleportation is and isn't at the same time phisically impossible. What's phisically impossible is submiting the body at extremly high speed, but that's not what I plan on doing o.O.

Monz
03-30-2008, 05:52 PM
Ok not sure if anybody mentioned this, but I didn't feel like reading all of the theories. >_>

Are Zaraki and Yachiru-chan vizards? You decide.
Look at ichigo's reiatsu compared to zaraki's and yachiru-chan's. They all three have masks in their reiatsu, and ichigo's mask looks a lot like the one he wears when he is in his Vizard form. http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x198/monz8328/vlcsnap-264870.png
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x198/monz8328/vlcsnap-264640.png
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x198/monz8328/vlcsnap-263052.png

Revan1990
03-30-2008, 05:52 PM
Revan, want to be our testing guy?
err...no, Dr. Frankenstein

Revan, teleportation is and isn't at the same time phisically impossible. What's phisically impossible is submiting the body at extremly high speed, but that's not what I plan on doing o.O.
moving with highspeed is,not teleportation...teleportation is an object(e.g. human body) dissapears from point A and at almost the same time appears in point B, without moving there....and that is physically not possible

Grey1x
03-30-2008, 05:59 PM
Y you're correct Revan. But, it wouldn't be teleporting the body itself, but the atoms that form it. I don't know how the laws of physics applies to the atoms (I'm still at the 9th grade common), but if it is diffrent, it might be possible.

Monz: I've also already wonnder that (but didn't post) and I think it's a quite good theory, but I prefer them to be normal shinigamis ;D.

Revan1990
03-30-2008, 06:13 PM
Y you're correct Revan. But, it wouldn't be teleporting the body itself, but the atoms that form it. I don't know how the laws of physics applies to the atoms
yeah, but the human body, like everything else, is completly made of atoms, which means saying moving the atoms is exactly the same as moving the body...

the only thing you possibly could do is to transfer the INFORMATION about a certain object(like the human body) to another point...like it is made of xxx million hydrogen atoms and they are ordered this way and so on, but that would be extremly complicated and after transfering that info to another point you still need a mass of atoms, (which have to be like the ones of the human body) to apply the information on...basically this isn't possible

Grey1x
03-30-2008, 06:21 PM
Hmm indeed, but what you've said wouldn't "teleport" the said person but would clone it, as transferring information is the basis of clonage.

Revan1990
03-30-2008, 06:27 PM
Hmm indeed, but what you've said wouldn't "teleport" the said person but would clone it, as transferring information is the basis of clonage.
theoretically yes, but this method I described is not possible so...

btw,
I don't know how the laws of physics applies to the atoms [...], but if it is diffrent, it might be possible.
which laws exactly do you mean?

Grey1x
03-30-2008, 06:29 PM
Oh I read you said it was possible ; p.

Well, the laws of gravity, force and such. Btw this is BLEACH theories, I think we should create a thread like this in the Social?

Revan1990
03-30-2008, 06:52 PM
Well, the laws of gravity, force and such
Well, thoraticelly these laws apply everywhere to everything

Btw this is BLEACH theories, I think we should create a thread like this in the Social?
yeah maybe it would be better

krompt
03-31-2008, 01:18 AM
Random Theory with spoilers from latest chapter:

Since Hiyori is vice of the 12 division, she is like Nemu a robot thingy, and she is not human thus making Shinji in love with not a woman but something else. And when he stuck his finger up her butt he pressed a button to turn her off?


Creative thinking:p

EX|pada #0
03-31-2008, 01:24 AM
I have a theorie and one day I will prove it ..... If I had a labratory and some scientists >.>

People can be in two places at the same time if they move in Really FAST speed
(0.0000000001 sec at each place )
.... But even if it WAS true the person wont know whats really going on since everything is blury from moving soo fast ... :\

lol the people's body will be crushed into pieces before XD

Random Theory with spoilers from latest chapter:

Since Hiyori is vice of the 12 division, she is like Nemu a robot thingy, and she is not human thus making Shinji in love with not a woman but something else. And when he stuck his finger up her butt he pressed a button to turn her off?


Creative thinking:p


Krompt, did you smoked something? :p

krompt
03-31-2008, 01:33 AM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not that I remember:confused:

Bleu
03-31-2008, 03:06 AM
Urahara is a viazard :hm

enough said.

krompt
04-04-2008, 07:46 PM
Urahara is a viazard :hm

enough said.

1st of all Im a vaizard

and second Urahara is the general of the army of the masks :hm

aisuzieya
04-05-2008, 02:48 PM
i still have faith in Gin............he's a nice guy. he's a good guy. he's only there to spy on Aizen. one day he'll be back in SS. yes. yes. he will. *pray100x* lol

Fortunate
04-05-2008, 04:57 PM
i still have faith in Gin............he's a nice guy. he's a good guy. he's only there to spy on Aizen. one day he'll be back in SS. yes. yes. he will. *pray100x* lol

I hope this theory becomes a reality. :cry

Fortunate
04-05-2008, 05:00 PM
Ah, forgot to post a theory of my own.


It's actually The Queen of Soul Society. ;)

Grey1x
04-05-2008, 05:04 PM
THat would be hilarious ^^

Soranushi
04-07-2008, 04:12 AM
Ah, forgot to post a theory of my own.


It's actually The Queen of Soul Society. ;)

Yeah that would be funny but its possible because know one has ever seen the king not even Yamajii I think it says that in the chapter the Ouken was first revealed.

Lionpaw
04-10-2008, 09:19 AM
I don't know what gave me the idea, but the King of Crack Theories:
Wonderweiss is actually the top espada.

FrostDragon
04-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Ukitake marries Unohana :D

stark espada
04-13-2008, 05:27 PM
Oh I have tons of theory's here is one that seems very plusable

Ulquiorra's release word will be Horus! I base this on the fact that I think ulquiorra will be some kind of bird like creature and the fact that Horus lost his eye and ulquiorra can take his eye. I have other reason why but those are the best.

Shdo
04-13-2008, 05:40 PM
Aizen isnt in the real world, he and yammi are in SS making the key.

why yammi? cuz yammi got the ability to suck souls, this is needed to make the key faster.

Velius
04-14-2008, 02:10 AM
That's actually not that bad Shdo. lool. Execpt in order for it to work, Aizen would have to sacrifice Yammi to get it done. :D He's got to go somehow, since Kubo forgot about him.

shinikage
04-15-2008, 07:29 AM
@stark: To me, somehow, ulquiorra's release is a giant insect :D

BioBomber
04-15-2008, 08:16 AM
Velius, what makes you think that Aizen would be above sacrificing Yammi in order to create the Ouken? Unless I misinterpreted your post...but Yammi's ability is somewhat limited as far as stronger souls go, I just remembered. Tatsuki managed to hold onto hers. Though I suppose it depends on how developed the rest of the souls in the town are.

Maianarisa
04-26-2008, 01:25 AM
After reading the latest chapter (-104), I've come up with a crack theory that's possible:

After reading the bit on what Shinji said of the stuff Unohana told him, I've come up with a theory that 4th Division is connected to the Kidou Corps. If you notice, Unohana, of all people, can detect that something is wrong or out of place and according to the captain's chart, her Kidou level is at 100. Yes, 4th Division is the Healing squad, but that doesn't mean it can't be connected to the Kidou Corps. If you look at Hachi, he's more of a healing guy, yet the Kidou corps symbol is clearly shown on his head in his past version in the color spread.

Sonial
04-27-2008, 03:32 PM
Aizen, Gin, Tousen and the Espada and Arrancar we have seen thus far are all incredibly weak (Hinataro weak), in comparison to the true Vasto Lorde of Hueco Mundo; who are direct agents of the King of Hell. The Hougyuku was developed when the threat was learned of, and used on several high level Shinigami who were then removed from Sereitei and Soul Society to avoid the surveillance of Hell to train and prepare for the Vasto Lorde. Then, the Hougyuku was deliberately put in the hands of Aizen Sosuke by Soul Society and the Spirit King in order to draw out the impending threat of the Vasto Lorde one century later. Few in Soul Society ever knew of these plans (not even Yamma-jii) because they were directly constructed by the Spirit King.

I like this idea because it opens the idea to more progression without making it terribly unbelievable.

Velius
04-30-2008, 03:19 AM
I guess I'll post this here, since I really don't want to make a thread for it. :)

I believe that this single panel and one line will come again and possibily even have an impact on the story.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5010/13254365476587ws4.png

20 days after I joined, the once in a century event of a drifter invasion took place.

Viz's version is:
On my 20th day of service, some ryoka infiltrated the soul society for the first time in centuries.

Both Imply that there has been an invasion into soul society before Ichigo's group came, about 100 years ago, for the last time at least. Go figure we are right in the middle of an arc taking place 100 years ago.....

mebidtt13
05-16-2008, 03:57 PM
Haha, these are so good! xD

Rain
05-16-2008, 10:26 PM
Vel- great theory

ill expand upon it (cause thats how i do things:fu) and say that SS declares the "vizards" to be ryoka/hollows that infiltrated the SS and that several captains died in battle

why the cover-up you might ask, why not:lmao

rvngu
05-16-2008, 11:29 PM
sucks for the vizards. i always though they had the ''Lust for power''. i would like ichigo to use the orb and get stronger. that`s a crazy theory hehe

Awakenedgirl86
05-18-2008, 10:32 PM
Orihime desecended from Ama-No-Uzume

Ichigo desecended from Susanoo ( He is a god desecent on is mother's side)

Rukia desecended from Amaterasu

Ishida desecended from Tsukuyomi

Oh my, if that were true that means Ichigo, Rukia, and Ishida are distant cousins.

Oh and I almost forget to say that Orihime comes from a very rich family

I think it is possible because Ichigo and company seem to have godly powers.

What do all think of my crazy theories?

Fortunate
05-19-2008, 03:36 PM
Inoue learns to Flash Step. :lmao

shinikage
05-20-2008, 07:56 AM
Since ogichi said that he'd been always part of zangetsu, I think later ichigo might use his name as zanpakuto command and might even have two swords (one zangetsu, one ogichi) or one completely different sword. Therefore, he can have new shikai and bankai. :D :D

Soranushi
05-20-2008, 08:02 AM
Since ogichi said that he'd been always part of zangetsu, I think later ichigo might use his name as zanpakuto command and might even have two swords (one zangetsu, one ogichi) or one completely different sword. Therefore, he can have new shikai and bankai. :D :D

I saw a similar theory on NF and I think its a possibility also it'd be really cool looking if he does get two swords. Right now I'm imagining his dual Bankai would be similar in shape to his normal bankai but the swords would be big as his shikai.

Rain
05-22-2008, 01:47 AM
this theory is partially stolen based off of bophon10's theory/thread

My thoughts on the creation fo the vizards:

Ive felt for a week or two that the cause of the hollowification of the "vizards" was because of some sort of air-borne virus

this air-borne virus can be sealed within the hyogyoku, and works fastest when in an enclosed space (why it took some time for kensei to become a hollow was because he was in an open area, but wonderweiss for instance was in that small space)

so the hyogyoku itself isn't responsible for the transformation (well, it is and it isn't)

Awakenedgirl86
05-24-2008, 05:34 PM
I believe that the goddess Izanami once ruled the Soul Society but then stopped due to an incident that made her leave and gave Yamamoto
who was her right hand man the postion. As a result of that the Soul Society King and the older Shinigami are waiting for Izanami to come back and rule the Soul Society.

Well, Shinigami are death gods shouldn't they have a leader? Izanami is the Shinto Death goddess, afterall.

zerosquad
06-14-2008, 06:59 AM
Ichigo has a backwards bankai. :D

Ichigo is related to the Shiba Clan, and Isshin has something to do with why they fell from being a noble clan.

When Tessai *way way way at the start of Manga* hinted at "could he be the one Boss *Urahara* is looking for?" <-- roughly paraphrased. From the chapters where Ishida and Ichigo first meet and blah blah blah have to take out the Menos. I'd say based on what we *know now* Tessai was talking about the *one* that Urahara can use grooming to stop Aizen.

The top 5 are Vastolord Espada. Evidence of a VL is having a weapon (Sword) post release. Nnoitra is the only artificial VL though.

Lets go really crazy for this last one.

Isshin was part of the Zero Squad. Lost his powers because.....he was the first holder for the Orb (by his own knowing) until Rukia arrived in the real world. :shrugs: Iaahin knows too much, friend of Urahara, knew of Aizen, Arrancar and the early Arrancar, knew that the Vaizards were contacting Ichigo, knew that Kon was Kon at the FIRST glance at em.

Well thats all I got lol.

shinikage
06-14-2008, 10:07 AM
An insanely crazy theory of mine XD : Isshin is not an original shinigami. He was artificially made by Urahara. In order to contact the vizard, he need to make a vizard. Without Aizen's method, he can only make one from a shinigami-human hybrid. So he made an artificial shinigami that can mate with human lol. Maybe he's a mod soul injected with shinigami power XP . Ururu and Jinta are failed results from the same experiment, and that's why Urahara had many mod souls.
(note: I haven't read chapter -98, so don't laugh if Isshin shows up there -_- )

Eloni
06-14-2008, 11:02 AM
I also tend to believe that Isshin is from the Shiba clan. He's just as crazy as them, they have similar feathures (especially Isshin and Ganju) and that would explain the similarity between Ichigo and Kaien (plus Isshin, Kaien and Ganju have similar noses:D)...

Btw, Shibas... I think Komamura (whoes father was also a werewolf(kinda thing) according to the Bleach bootleg(or how ya call it)) has some connection with Kukaku. Dunno why, I just saw a picture in Colorful Bleach, and there is a girl who resembles Kukaku with a wolf/fox pelt around her neck. I need hardly say that it resembles Komamura:D

And anyway, Nel's gonna throw up on Grimmjow, healing him, then GJ is gonna safe Ichigo's life, kicking Ulquiorra's ass, turning against Aizen and co. then when the whole place is cleared from Aizen's bootlickers he'll be Hueco Mundo's new king and adult Neliel will be the queen:yay (yes, I'm obsessed with GrimmNel, thx for noticing:D)

wolvenlied
06-15-2008, 09:27 PM
Lol, maybe she's just a silly teacher or they used one of those memory charms on her. That seems most likely ;)

Soranushi
06-18-2008, 12:54 AM
Dunno why, I just saw a picture in Colorful Bleach, and there is a girl who resembles Kukaku with a wolf/fox pelt around her neck. I need hardly say that it resembles Komamura

That's Tatsuki I believe it was said a couple years ago that Kubo made that as a "what if thing" or maybe he plans on making her a Shinigami so who knows.

This is the pic right?
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4286/tatsuki023hk.jpg

Eloni
06-19-2008, 08:07 AM
That's Tatsuki I believe it was said a couple years ago that Kubo made that as a "what if thing" or maybe he plans on making her a Shinigami so who knows.

This is the pic right?
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4286/tatsuki023hk.jpg

Yes, that one.
You're right, she's just like Tatsuki, I just couldn't understand why she is on the same pic as Komamura, so I thought it might be someone else from SS. I didn't know that Kubo revealed anything about it.
OK, so theory #2 failed:XD

UniAniGi
06-20-2008, 07:15 PM
Whoo... a crazy theories thread, why haven't I seen this before? :eek: Hmm... and there are some very interesting ones too. :cool:

I have a few of 'em too, but I'll just post snippets of 'em. I'll go further into detail if anyone is interested. :D

Here we go!

Masaki was a Shinigami, most likely a captain-level one (I think Hikifune), who transferred her powers to Isshin, making him a substitute Shinigami just like Ichigo. He was classmates (maybe also in High School) with Ryuuken at the time.
Possible proof? Isshin's sword has a tassel just like Ichigo's first sword, and the fact that his robe is tied around his arm could signify that his captain-level power is borrowed. His and Ishida's familiarity with one another make me think they're about the same age, rather than one being a few centuries old and the other middle-aged.

This also leads to:Masaki saved Ichigo from Grandfisher because she saw him, but couldn't do anything because she no longer had her powers.

Orihime will use her powers on the Hougyoku but will not get the desired outcome. It will disappear...right into Rukia's soul again. (Oops)
Proof/explanation:Since events are rejected in steps and in order (she heals wounds gradually and not instantly) she will not be able to use her power to ignore all the things that happened to the Hougyoku and skip straight to its creation.

Hisana met Kisuke and gave him Rukia to take care of, being aware that her little sister had spiritual powers even as an infant, and began searching for her again after she married Byakuya because that's when she found out that Kisuke had been exiled, leaving Rukia alone somewhere in SS.
Proof? Inuzuri can't be that big, if she'd searched for her for decades after she'd "abandoned" Rukia she'd be sure to find her. During the Karakura Arc, Rukia not only seemed familiar with Kisuke, but also appeared to have a few mistrust issues with him that went beyond him being a shady businessman or an exiled Captain. Her statement to Jinta, "You never change, do you little one" implies that she's known them for quite some time, yet apparently she's only been in the real world one time before. And also, he placed the Hougyoku in her. Why go and search for someone to place it in when you've already got someone close at hand?

Rukia was only using a fraction of her powers during her fight with Aaroniero.
Proof? She practically said so right after firing off two high-level kido spells, and froze a room over while unconscious.

Gah, that's all I can remember for now. :o

La`Punyeta
06-23-2008, 07:33 PM
The motives of the Vizards:
I guess their motive is to create a world where Hollows and Shinigami can live peacefully with each others as well w/ the humans...So they have decided to kill the gotei 13 as well as aizen's forces and rule both HM and SS for equality...and call that place....

Hybrid Society..and the ones protecting it will be the Vizard 13
LOL..

this theory is rather crack than crazy....

shinikage
06-26-2008, 12:06 PM
Masaki is not dead. She was a dangerous creature like hollow or arrancar. She defeated Grandfisher, but then realizing that her son isn't safe with her around. Then leave after ripping her own gigai. That's why Grandfisher couldn't remember her, since he was the victim at that time, and Masaki left her body before GJ saw how her human form looked

Sixkiller
06-26-2008, 09:07 PM
I see some interesting theories here. I only have one theory (andI'm going to be borrowing from other theories I've heard onhere that I like):
I've been contemplating since I saw Isshin's captain's coat trying to figure out which captain he might be. I came to the conclusion that he was the 10th division captain. It only makes sense since Toshiro is the youngest captain currently. So Isshin must have left when the Shiba clan fell out of power/dignity because he caused it. Kaien's death may have had something to do with it as well.

vietkevi
06-27-2008, 03:51 AM
I think Aizen is a vizard because he knew a lot about hollowfication. This isnt a spoiler or anything, just an opinion. Hes probably going to 1v1 wit Ichigo in the end as a vizard. This would make the series more exciting.

As for Ishin, I think he was a captain on duty but went to the real world to solve some sort of case. On his trip he probably met Ichigo's mother and probably fell for her.

zerosquad
06-27-2008, 06:09 PM
Ishida's father will kill Mayuri for experimenting on his father and Urahara will take back the 12th division. :D

Revan1990
07-05-2008, 01:56 PM
I think Aizen is a vizard because he knew a lot about hollowfication. This isnt a spoiler or anything, just an opinion. Hes probably going to 1v1 wit Ichigo in the end as a vizard. This would make the series more exciting.

isnt getting hollow powers one of Aizens main goals? that would mean he still didnt achive this

knix
07-06-2008, 03:06 PM
My theory about Ichigo's zanpaktou:

As we see, zanpaktous are repaired by some sort. They may be manually repaired or just repair by themselves...... if the case is they repair by themselves, I will apply my theory.

Ichigo's first zanpaktou form just won't repair by itself because he was using Rukia's power. And he's not actually using the power of Zangetsu, he's just using Zangetsu as a zanpaktou that time but the reiatsu is Rukia's. So Ichigo has no access from his Zanpaktou which a shinigami would normally have upon having zanpaktou (So even in normal form, they could repair) so the only way left for him to do is to unlock it by calling his shikai. And because the power that made him shinigami is not his and is all depleted, he can't call it back to it's normal form.

Another Theory:
Ichigo was some sort of experiment for Urahara. The only way to become vaizard is by hogyoku and Urahara have to conduct experiments for his new formula of making vaizards and Ichigo fit the bill, since his only borrowing powers that time; avoiding the conflict between zanpaktou and hollow powers. So putting up that way, Ichigo is a natural vaizard as opposed to what people says that he is between arrancar and vaizard.

Evmoy15
07-06-2008, 11:35 PM
Here's My Theory:
Bleach was the original Law & Order.
The Opening Was Like This: In the hollow defense unit, there is a group of people that handle The most severe cases. These are thier stories.
And the lineup would have Ichigo in the middle followed by: Rukia, Renji, Orhime, Adult Nel, Chad, Uruyu And Kon down in the front

gab00n
07-07-2008, 12:00 AM
Hikifune is Ichigo's mother, the Captains robe that Isshin carries on his shoulder is hers, he keeps it to remember her by. Somehow both Isshin and Masaki had their powers sealed so she could not protect herself but had enough powers to be able to see hollows.

zerosquad
07-07-2008, 01:20 AM
At the moment. Aizen, Tousen, Gin are not Vaizards. They're waiting for the Orb to awaken. The current Espada are simply diversions to stall time for the Orbs full awakening. Then and only then will the defected Captains obtain Vaizard powers through the fully awakened Orb.

Aizen is just doing what Aizen does best. Using people and tossing them away.

Part II to the theory is..

The Espada are a diversion. The true Espada are for the Zero Squad. These *boosted weaklings* pale in comparison to the true all Vasto Lorde Espada that Aizen will create when the Orb is finished. But even though they pale in conparison to the *final* Espada I'm predicting. They as seen in the Manga/Anime did pose a threat to the main cast, and will seem to match evenly with the Captains.

I think that the Captains will come through clean in the war. Omeada will most likely die. There will be some deaths, but I don't really see Yamamoto going out like some sort of idiot. He is the Commander General in full command of his power, and with the most powerful release shown thus far. As far as destruction is concerned.

This *War* is just to buy time for the Orbs awakening. Remember because Aizen has to storm into the King's Realm to kill the King. The Royal Guard's duty as it seems is to protect the King. The true Vasto Lorde Espada will be on the Royal Guard level.

On Isshin.

Isshin is a Royal Guard, who had a mission to pass down a fraction/ or all of his powers to his son. (They finally returned to him) Because there was a prophecy/hidden intel about a man of such fearsome reiatsu that only the heir of a Royal Guard member would be able to defeat him. Or maybe a former Royal Guard member who wanted to over throw the current system. Maybe he sees the King as worthless, a figurehead, or etc. Anyways that man is Aizen. (why does he look so young? Might be the son of the King if he was a person, or maybe he concealed his true face with his Shikai.)

Also Isshin was told never to let his son know his identity until the time became perfectly right.


:nuts

zerosquad
07-07-2008, 02:38 AM
If there is some elusive super mega Vaizard power up LOL it'll be the ability transform into his Hollows true form. I'm not sure...Would only be sure if we see an experienced Vaizard fight at full power but I think there has to be something beyond simply putting on a mask.

I'd say the final form is Hollow body meets consciousness. More than a raging bloodlust. Or maybe he'll turn into something like the 9 Tails Fox in the 4 Tail state if you're familiar with Naruto.

I have a feeling that something is going to come between Ichigo going to Ulq or during the fight. And that something will most likely be Ogichi. I am still holding that Ogichi will kill Ulq. Ogichi is aware of whats going on, and he knows that Ichigo CANNOT DIE, because it's bad for him.

It seems to be certain death judging on what happened last time against Ulq. And he'll make sure that wont happen.. Ogichi that is. Even if it is talking over Ichigo completely.

I have no problems believing that POWER WISE Ichigo can meet Aizen (late late in series)...as far as intellect, cunning, complete mastery of all Shinigami Arts, experience... No.

I think it's also interesting that Ogichi was so suprised at how much of an idiot that Ichigo was to get *cut to ribbons* as he did...and does by enemies. Cause Zangetsu is soo badass. And Ogichi was clearly shown pulling out all the killer intent within the sword.

Also keep in mind that Ichigo's mask *before Vaizard* came to his rescue many times saving him from death blows. So one thing is clear.

Ogichi needs Ichigo alive. For his own bidding? Maybe so, even after he allegedly conqured him in the inner confrontation, he still warns him not to let up or die because he will take over and become *King*.... I find that very interesting. I believe his fate was sealed in the aftermath of the Ulq confrontation with the hole in his chest. Ogichi isnt going to let that happen again.

Ichigo's Hollow is of a different breed. Ichigo is not a Shinigami that obtained Hollow powers. He's a human that borrowed Shinigami powers, lost those powers. Got his real soul seperated with Soul Chain attatched. Thrown into the Shattered Shaft after his chain was separated.. Bound with impossible to break Kidou told to get out or turn into a Hollow. Suurrree Urahara knew without a doubt what he was doing remember he studied on what made souls stronger and I'll say this is his ultimate creation. Forcing a soul to awaken both at the same time. His transformation was a planned experiment for the highest type of Hybrid. He had confidence in Ichigo because he was the son of a Royal Guard. Tessai knew as well. :D

gigantor21
07-10-2008, 01:49 AM
Here's mine:

[Halibel pulls down her mask...revealing no mask fragment underneath.]

Halibel - SURPRISE! I'M A VIZARD! :XD

Odal
07-10-2008, 05:19 AM
Here's mine:

[Halibel pulls down her mask...revealing no mask fragment underneath.]

Halibel - SURPRISE! I'M A VIZARD!

Obviously Aizen's Human...sorry, Arrancar Resources Manager is getting slack, employing vizards and all that! XD

But seriously, a small theory of mine (but is often used) is that the King of SS is a character that has already been introduced...

Why? Firstly, gut-feeling, secondly, it would be a good suprise, finally, Kubo wouldn't need to think of a new character design!! XD

La`Punyeta
07-10-2008, 09:18 AM
The one's that the 6 captains are fighting are really Aizen Gin and Tousen...the one's who are inside the fire are the real espadas.. when Yama attacked them w/ his flame...they did a switcherooo and Aizen used his shikai to disguise them 3 as espadas..and the one's that are inside the fire wall are halibel barragan and stark..

Revan1990
07-10-2008, 09:28 AM
The one's that the 6 captains are fighting are re