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Velius
07-01-2007, 11:13 PM
Make your predictions now so you can say "haha I told you so" to everyone later. ;)

Grimmjow has now released. No arrancar has lasted very long after releasing as of yet. Not only losing the fight, but also their lives. (of course presumably the Privion)

So will Grimm meet the same fate soon, perhaps not even by Ichigo's hands? Or will Grimm break the arrancar release curse?

Being an optimist and a Grimmjow fan :p, I'm going to say that he will survive his release. But he will lose the fight, one way or another. Ichigo has to win this time around.

shivath
07-01-2007, 11:19 PM
Well, he's not my favorite character but I honestly doubt he will go away for good. His character seems to get too much focus for just getting killed off like that. Of course I could be wrong. I'm sure some of you feel the same way as me.

hyiceme
07-01-2007, 11:20 PM
I also believe he'd survive this battle. KT spend so much time developing his character, I doubt he would kill him off like that especially since he hasn't killed off many other less important characters.
I agree Grimmjow is bound to lose this fight, but he won't die. :P

Syn
07-01-2007, 11:29 PM
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IMHO, he's dead meat. This spread could mean nothing but:
-he's facing the same way that the dead Arrancars/Espada face (from the first to be killed to the least, and GJ is a bit further away than Aaro)
-he's all alone with Ichigo (this is their battle no one will interfere)

Ichigo's behaviour too is very unsettling as this is the first time that he is so cold and passionless in a battle; I believe that it's because he's dead set on killing GJ and thus needs to be so cold (I actually wrote a pretty long entry about this in my LJ but I won't paste it here as I am very lazy :p just taking shortcut here).

SiSL
07-01-2007, 11:29 PM
Kubo will make a suprise and actually kill him. If not by Ichigo, by Ulqiorra or by Orihime (who knows)

In the end, this arc is meant to breakdown Orihime into shreads.

hyiceme
07-01-2007, 11:42 PM
@syn: actually that makes alot of sense too. KT might just pull a surprise and actually kill an important character... now I don't know what's gonna happen to Grimm....

Ness
07-02-2007, 12:13 AM
Even though Grimmjow is one of my favorite characters, I feel like he might not survive this fight with Ichigo. Like discussed in the thread about Orihime standing here - When Ichigo kills Grimmjow in front of Orihime, she'll have to learn that the Ichigo she has a crush on is now different. I hope that Ichigo injures Grimmjow to the point that he has to get hospitalized and not fight for a while instead of him dying. :(

Axie
07-02-2007, 12:25 AM
From now on, I think it's going to go all down hill for Grimm. He's already shown his most powerful side, and keeping him alive from this point forward would be kind of pointless. Grimmjow's played the role of an obstacle and a huge rival for Ichigo, and Grimmjow only seems to want to kill Ichigo because of his grudges. There is no other objective for him at this point... and we all know that Ichigo's not going to die to him.

My point being, that Grimmjow is essentionally holding back the plot, and Kubo's going to have to kill him off at some point or another. Why not at the point where he's shown all his power to us? For me, I'm almost sure this will be Grimmjow's last battle.

vaizado
07-02-2007, 12:26 AM
Unless Kubo is planning on making Grimm the next Vegeta, I think he could very well die on this fight. I mean, if he has no more point in the storyline, what's the point of keeping him alive?

So yea, like I said, unless Kubo plans to make Grimm fight on the side of the good guys, his role in the manga is basically over.

Slev
07-02-2007, 12:26 AM
I feel pretty confident that Grimmjow is going to die here; Ichigo looks like he is slowly building up to realizing he wants to kill Grimmjow and I really doubt Ichigo is going to lose a third time. GJ dying won't only have an effect on Ichigo, though. Orihime's view of what Ichigo is has already been shaken. Watching Ichigo kill Grimmjow could completely shatter that view. I think that will be important for Orihime's character later on.

Geta Boshi
07-02-2007, 01:50 AM
IMO GJ will get defeated but not die at Ichi's hand .Either he will switch sides or get killed by Ulqi. It will be a hard fought battle with Ichi winning at the end .

Frosted Heart
07-02-2007, 02:01 AM
Ack, this is exactly what people thought during the second Grimmjow vs. Ichigo fight! I really hope Grimmjow doesn't die, but of course, it's ultimately up to KT.

However, even if Grimmjow's shown us his full powers, he hasn't suddenly become useless to the plot. That's like saying Byakuya is no longer useful to the story since we've seen all the forms of his bankai. Grimmjow can still be useful to the story, either as a foil to the other arrancars/overlords or some other reason.

Griffith
07-02-2007, 02:03 AM
As much as I hate to admit it but I think its Grimm's time to go, he really has no plot relevance anymore after his release. He doesn't have that to fall back on. Can we really have Ichigo vs. Grimm 4? I predict Ulqui to end his fate.

Ness
07-02-2007, 02:07 AM
Unfortunately, yes, Ulqui will end Grimmjow's fate. lol, Grimmjow pissed him off so much that Ulqui said "Sh*t" (or was it "damn"?) as he was sent to another dimension for just 2-3 hours, and hearing that from Ulqui is bad enough.

eurys
07-02-2007, 02:23 AM
Since Kubo revealed that GJ's ultimate goal was just to settle the score with Ichigo, I think his time to go has truly come.

I remember we were all speculating about his "plan" and the reasons he disobeyed Aizen's orders and took Inoue...Truth was, he just wanted to have a showdown with his prey.
But we can still speculate on how he'll die. I personally hope Ulquiorra will make him pay his insubordination.

debbiechan
07-02-2007, 02:57 AM
Kubo will make a suprise and actually kill him. If not by Ichigo, by Ulqiorra or by Orihime (who knows)

In the end, this arc is meant to breakdown Orihime into shreads.

I'm afraid this might be true. I don't want this to happen, though--maybe Kubo will lead us to believe that GJ has ruthlessly been killed by an Ichigo sans chocolate, but then GJ will pop up later or Hime will bring him back.

Velius
07-02-2007, 03:03 AM
I could see that happening. It's also one of the things I was taking into account on how Grimm could live through this. He could "die", but I don't see him staying dead in that case. But then where to go from there... It would all turn so bland... switch sides... lurk around HM mumbling... I'd almost want him dead if it meant more story impact.

Ness
07-02-2007, 03:51 AM
I agree with Velius.

The more I think about it, the more I feel like Grimm is reaching a dead end. I think that Grimm's character serves to test Ichigo's killing/fighting intent. Ichigo's intent has always been tested, like with Zenpachi, Hichigo, and now this. This scene, I believe, will also add to Orihime's growth. She's been exposed to violence first hand. To see Ichigo and Grimm fight to death is something for her to see... and to make her grow from her naivity.

Ros
07-02-2007, 05:29 PM
I'm afraid this might be true. I don't want this to happen, though--maybe Kubo will lead us to believe that GJ has ruthlessly been killed by an Ichigo sans chocolate, but then GJ will pop up later or Hime will bring him back.

The more I think about it, the more I feel like Grimm is reaching a dead end. I think that Grimm's character serves to test Ichigo's killing/fighting intent. Ichigo's intent has always been tested, like with Zenpachi, Hichigo, and now this. This scene, I believe, will also add to Orihime's growth. She's been exposed to violence first hand. To see Ichigo and Grimm fight to death is something for her to see... and to make her grow from her naivity.

Tying into the idea that, if Ichigo kills Grimmjow, it's going to have an enormous effect on Orihime's view of Ichigo, she'd also have a really difficult choice to make there. I know when it was first shown that she could revive people who had died it was seen as being overpowered, but Orihime's really limited here by needing to learn the same lesson about the arrancar Ichigo does. If Ichigo kills Grimmjow she can probably revive him, but if she revives him Grimmjow will go after Ichigo again. And that wouldn't just place Ichigo in danger; Grimmjow's shown that he's more than willing to remove anyone he sees as an obstacle to Ichigo's undivided attention. Orihime would have to make the decision to either watch him die, and leave him dead--or revive him knowing that he would almost certainly attack again.

I don't think Grimmjow came intending to leave this fight. His comment to Lolly about Aizen not sparing a thought for her, and his flaunting of Aizen's authority since, make me think he's kind of intending to go out with a figurative middle finger salute. By fighting Ichigo, he's returning in a way to what he was before Aizen had control of him. This is what he lives for, and he's been restricted from it, and I think he came to the realization that as long as he was under Aizen's command he'd be forced to constantly curb what he is. A character like Grimmjow personifies the killer instinct Ichigo is supposed to have in himself (whether or not he's supposed to embrace it as a positive thing is up in the air, but he at least needs to see it to understand his Hollow).

I love Grimmjow and I almost hope he doesn't survive the fight. Kubo's done a wonderful job of developing him and making him a character that a lot of people are really attached to, and it's exactly that depth of character that makes it hard for me to see him escaping and on the run from Aizen, or teaming up with Ichigo, unless we're given another motivation for him to continue. He doesn't fight to live, he lives to fight. I think that's what he wanted as an Espada and he found he had no freedom to act, that he was forced to keep his instinct under control. He taunted Ulquiorra about being afraid to fight him (the way he worded it was interesting too, not "You're afraid I'll kill you" but "You're afraid we'll destroy each other" and I don't know what that implies about Ulquiorra's instinct but I'm back on topic now >_>), which to me says that Grimmjow has no real fear for his life, but for his control over it. If he defeated Ichigo, he'd probably go to Ulquiorra next, then if he defeated him, whoever else he could find, until someone killed him. He wants to live, I think--but for him death is Aizen's hold on him, and he'd rather see how far he can go than stagnate under it.

The idea of him dying upsets me, but I can see how it'd happen at this point, not just to make a point to Ichigo, but to resolve the character of Grimmjow himself.

Urahara
07-02-2007, 07:11 PM
I feel pretty confident that Grimmjow is going to die here; Ichigo looks like he is slowly building up to realizing he wants to kill Grimmjow and I really doubt Ichigo is going to lose a third time. GJ dying won't only have an effect on Ichigo, though. Orihime's view of what Ichigo is has already been shaken. Watching Ichigo kill Grimmjow could completely shatter that view. I think that will be important for Orihime's character later on.

I don't get why Orihime is that shocked....

I mean, she has allready seen Ichigo at that state at his vaizard
training.. She knows, also, that he was training to get stronger in
order to protect her and his friends. She show him changing into
vaizard to protect her from cero and when he talked to her he's
personality hadn't changed at all. That was Ichigo speaking and not
some inner hollow.

So why whould Orihime's view be shattered? She will accept it as
everybody else seen Ichigo like that.

As for the thread's question I think Grimm gets beaten by Ulquiorra
and saved by Ichigo so they fight together the common enemy. After
their victory they rescedule their fight for some time in the future and
Grimmjaw leaves the story. Maybe we'll see him again later on...

Inuhanyou
07-02-2007, 08:40 PM
To be honest i'm not sure if grimmjow is going to die or not. On one hand he's going fully released against vizard ichigo, so there's really not much else for them to do in a rematch type situation except reuse old powers. So although im not sure what grimm's fate will be in this battle, i'm quite sure this will be Ichigo & Grimm's last major battle.

mori
07-02-2007, 09:44 PM
well as a self confessed disliker of grimmjaw I'm rather hoping he'll be offed soon. It should be in this fight and by Ichigo, both so Ichigo can move onwards from this same old opponent and so he can be given a marked increase in power.

Primera Espada
07-02-2007, 10:25 PM
I think he'll lose (as the color spread indicates) but not die (so far we have 3 on that spread that have not had confirmed deaths, and one of the others was by his own hand)

I don't think Grimmjow will die though. I think that Kubo has much, much more in store for Grimmjow. Something akin to Kenpachi.

Riekie
07-03-2007, 10:40 AM
Hmm....I don't know this one! As much as I hate to see Grimmjow lose his life against Ichigo I don't want to see them fight side by side either. As far as I am concerned I don't see a future for my beloved Grimmjow anymore, because well...he has released and all.
I do want him to survive and be a lone warrior oslt...but I don't know if Aizen will let him....

Hmm...tough one..

Nama
07-03-2007, 12:04 PM
I'm sad to admit that some of you have a point. :( But I still hope and want to believe that he'll live, but I won't take it for granted, because if I do, I would be disappointed if he dies after all. So... I am prepared for his death, but I still have some faith of him surviving.

If he were to die, it would be either by Ichigo, Ulquiorra, Tousen or Aizen... but the first two are even more likely to kill him. Still, I wouldn't know what to say if Kubo decided to kill Grimmjow, but I'll accept whatever he goes with.

He wouldn't even have to become a good guy. So why not just leave Hueco Mundo and become an anti-hero? Anyway, I'm in a fifty-fifty situation on this one. He might die, but then again he might not. *sigh*

Mz D
07-03-2007, 02:09 PM
I believe he's a goner. He's gone as far as his character can go and I don't want to see him being a lone wolf(or panther) I'd rather he died in a cool and extreme way. Maybe not by Ichigo, not sure if a shounen hero is allowed to kill. But maybe after the fight he's going to die somehow.

Riekie
07-03-2007, 03:30 PM
Okie...a bit off topic but I think a shounen hero is allowed to kill i e Goku killing Kid Buu and all.

jep...Grimmjow is on a timer..

Gintoki
07-03-2007, 04:29 PM
As much as i hope him to live on, cause i like him so much, i would even more hate it, if this 3rd match gets interrupted or Draw again.

Nama
07-03-2007, 04:35 PM
Yeah, no interruptions please, thank you. I want Grimm and Ichi finally to settle the score, but I'm waiting to see whether or not Grimmjow will die. But like I said, I hope he doesn't. :(

Sarada
07-03-2007, 05:06 PM
I don't wanna see Grimmjow die, definatly, because he's a big reason I read Bleach, but I realise too that he's in major trouble ....

Soo I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Axie
07-03-2007, 06:12 PM
Grimmjow is one of the characters that has made this whole arc interesting. (in my opinion) He's the rebel, and he's unpredictable. Kubo has touched quite a bit on Grimmjow's hatred for Aizen and all the other Espada... and I think that's what could keep Kubo from killing off Grimmjow at this point.

But, on the other hand... Grimmjow's played the role as Ichigo's new hated rival and as others has touched upon, this is their third battle and it would get kind of old if we didn't get a victor. If Grimmjow were to die anywhere, I think the best place would be by his rival, not by Aizen or Ulquiorra.

Emi-Shimizu
07-03-2007, 08:36 PM
As an ultimate GJ fangirl,i am still hoping that somehow he may survive.You may call me naive or stupid,but who wants their favourite male Bleach character to die,hmm?
The friend of mine said that Grimmjow definietely won't be eliminated,cause KT is focusing at him very much.And indeed he is.Its because Grimmjow is changing Ichigo right now.Because of GJ,Kurosaki is realizing what his instincts truly are,he's learning to fight with the full force.And of course GJ is Ichigos main opponent currently.He will really do his best,to defeat 6th.Thats why Grimmy is so important.Those changes in Ichigo,will have a big influence on the plot in the upcoming chapters.They will change Himes thougths about him.KT is soo evil xD.But oh well...if our Catman wants a fight to death,then maybe Ichigo won't kill him just to piss him off?.<fangirling>.
And now about Orihime:she is completely stunned now.She is not thinking at all.Completely focused on Ichigo.She have never seen him fighting like that.She didn't really knew nothing about his power,his hollow,his mask,and his true personality at all.She knew only a prince in a shining armor,the Kurosaki-kun she imagined.I am not telling this to instult anyone.Those are just my thoughts.I could just shut up,but i wont.I will try to defent my beloved Grimmy with all the English words that i know(not many,actually ;P,so be at peace)even if its pointless xD.And if i made any mistakes in the grammar or anything else,i'm very sorry.I hope that anyone understand what i wrote.Bai Bai.
Ps.I was going to post this at Syns topic-Deja chocolate aqui,but sadly,it is closed now.And since it is about GJ mostly,i decided to post it here.

Nocturne
07-04-2007, 04:44 AM
*puts on bullet proof vest*
I've said this before and I'll say it again, I want Grimm to live a long happy life and also help the good guys on the side. XD *runs and hides*

Ness
07-04-2007, 07:07 AM
*puts on bullet proof vest*
I've said this before and I'll say it again, I want Grimm to live a long happy life and also help the good guys on the side. XD *runs and hides*

lol, next thing you know, GJ would be in Urahara's gigai and learn how to drink from a juice box.

In all seriousness... I really like GJ and I hope he lives.

Sola
07-06-2007, 08:02 PM
As much as I dont want him to die. I think he will. :(

SiSL
07-06-2007, 08:47 PM
Actually, I'd rather "loyal buttler" Ulquiorra to die, rather than GJ. Who knows may be we'll see that before GJ dies.

Shannon
07-07-2007, 06:43 AM
He'll survive. They usually do. o.O;
Aka Kenpachi.

If KT kills off Ulqui and Grimmy, I swear I'll scream or something.

Emi-Shimizu
07-07-2007, 07:39 AM
He'll survive. They usually do. o.O;
Aka Kenpachi.

If KT kills off Ulqui and Grimmy, I swear I'll scream or something.
I'd rather die xP
Well big Ichi boy seems to be scary now,but GAH,with every new chapter i am more sure that GJ will survive x3

Sarada
07-07-2007, 09:16 AM
When Grimmjow started his little expedition, I wasn't really worried about him dieing, because he's been given a lot of attention by Kubo, and everytime he appears, there's always something fun or surprising happening, why waste such a character?

So then there was the colored spread, with him standing of to the side with all his dead comrades. That was a real wake up call, and as they are fighting and getting hurt, I'm getting really worried. There's this vibe again that was also in the second fight, like Kubo preparing for a death, only then he turned it around by breaking up the fight. I don't want him to break up the fight, this rivalry has to be settled so both can move on. Hopefully both that is.

Agmaster
07-08-2007, 03:44 PM
As far as I'm concerned, Ichigo's carrying a little black notebook with endless paper and is writing his name down as we speak.

krompt
07-08-2007, 03:51 PM
Grimmjow is most likely set up to die, the battle is a battle to the death. It wont end without someone dying and the normal asumption is that the MAIN character of the manga wont die, so Grimmjow probably wont stop fighting until he dies, i doubt that he would even want to live if the battle was a tie. But i am all for him aiding the good guys, i mean they have a shinigami, quincy, chad person, vizard, all they need is an arrancar.

experimentchoco
07-08-2007, 04:28 PM
I hope he lasts a little longer. I think Grimmjaw has the potential of becoming a good-guy character. :D If not, let's hope he doesn't die anytime in the near future.

SiSL
07-08-2007, 04:38 PM
I hope he lasts a little longer. I think Grimmjaw has the potential of becoming a good-guy character. :D If not, let's hope he doesn't die anytime in the near future.

I'm not sure about this "good character" issue. He is REALLY passionate about himself being Hollow and Ichigo being Shinigami and them being enemies for generations.

So I don't think good-boy he wont be.

krompt
07-08-2007, 04:40 PM
Yeah and he is also passionate with this thing......KILLING COMPANIONS and enemies a.k.a. ichigo.....grimmjow going good = highly doubted.

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 04:43 PM
Grimmjow is most likely set up to die, the battle is a battle to the death. It wont end without someone dying and the normal asumption is that the MAIN character of the manga wont die, so Grimmjow probably wont stop fighting until he dies, i doubt that he would even want to live if the battle was a tie. But i am all for him aiding the good guys, i mean they have a shinigami, quincy, chad person, vizard, all they need is an arrancar.
It is a fight to death-for GJ.He told that he won't hold back.But still,Ichigo was refusing to fight with the full force.He never said that he will kill GJ.He told that he will defeat him,and win this fight.
Ps.GJ is a rebel and a Bad Boy,he don't like to be ordered about,so it will be hard to convince him to join Ichi.But,i quess,he don't like Aizen too much ;p

Miranu
07-08-2007, 04:44 PM
So then there was the colored spread, with him standing of to the side with all his dead comrades. That was a real wake up call, and as they are fighting and getting hurt, I'm getting really worried. There's this vibe again that was also in the second fight, like Kubo preparing for a death, only then he turned it around by breaking up the fight. I don't want him to break up the fight, this rivalry has to be settled so both can move on. Hopefully both that is.

Hmm I think there's no need to worry abourt Ichigo's killin Grimmjow. Well.. About Ulquiorra's killin' him is possible :D
And about the color spread, Well It' looked lik, what's behind Ichigo and Co, and what's awaiting for him :D
But ya know how thing works in LN, if GJ lost he'll be a goner for sure, an Espada can'T lose, if he does Someon other than Ichigo will kill him :(

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 04:47 PM
Oh,and about Ulquiorra:
They have 2-3 hours left,until he comes back.Everything can happen ;P
But well..it's possible that he will come out with some uber secret skill..nobody knows whats in Kubo-samas head xP

krompt
07-08-2007, 04:48 PM
It is a fight to death-for GJ.He told that he won't hold back.But still,Ichigo was refusing to fight with the full force.He never said that he will kill GJ.He told that he will defeat him,and win this fight.
Ps.GJ is a rebel and a Bad Boy,he don't like to be ordered about,so it will be hard to convince him to join Ichi.But,i quess,he don't like Aizen too much ;p

Actually Grimm might commit suicide if he is denied a battle to the death, you know how stubborn he is, and if he doesn't die he knows all to well that he is goin to get hell from ulquiorra......and him joining ichi and crew, i would like it but the odds are against it.

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 04:53 PM
Well even if all the HM and SS will go out against him,he won't give up.He is enjoying fights.He always seek for them.

krompt
07-08-2007, 04:54 PM
.....
He's way to similar to kenpachi :headscratch
seriously there gotta be a connection between them.

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 04:57 PM
Yep...he reminds me of Ikkaku too xD
If Ken-chan is immortal,then why GJ can't?

krompt
07-08-2007, 05:01 PM
Well two characters with that kind of mentality cant survive, if Grimmjow somehow survived the Hueco Mundo arc if he invades SS he will fight Kenpachi and they will probably end up killing each other XD

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 05:04 PM
Yes..that would be an interesting fight.
Ps.Or Ken-chan and Grimmy would become friends,and happily killing everything around them.Now that would be fun xD
Not to mention Yachiru,wich is slaying everyone with her uber cuteness.

krompt
07-08-2007, 05:10 PM
Yeah it would be hilarious if one of grimmjow's fraccion where identical to Yachiru: XD that would be the ultimate suprise if that happened in the next chapter:D

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 05:21 PM
Yep..that would be cool,and hilarous indeed xD
Hmm..my friend thought that Nakim,Shawlong,D-Roy and Illfourte were his fraccions...if that is true then GJ has no one who could stand by his side in the fight.Exept Halibel...but it's low possible that she will help anybody,until someone gets completely messed up.

krompt
07-08-2007, 05:26 PM
If they are his fraccion then that would be kind of lame, I mean he has to have alot because he would constantly blow them uo out of boredom and stuff. And they didn't seem to share grimmjow's love for battle.....but they are most likely his fraccion X(

Sarada
07-08-2007, 05:28 PM
Yeah it would be hilarious if one of grimmjow's fraccion where identical to Yachiru: XD that would be the ultimate suprise if that happened in the next chapter

That'd be soo cute, and I kinda thought about Nell maybe knowing Grimmjow too, and well, she does know who he is, because she stated his name and rank, but other than that there's nothin, and Nell would've been perfect for the job.

"Nooo !! Please don't kill him Ichigo!!!"

LOL ... fandreaming here :D

StarryInoueSky
07-08-2007, 06:01 PM
I think Ichigo will defeat him but won't kill him... if Grimmjow does die, I'm sure it'll be by either, Aizen, Tousen, Gin or Ulquiorra... maybe someone else. *shrugs*

Tonton
07-08-2007, 06:06 PM
Kubo has been on this death kick as of late. I think that GJ is probably going to be Ichigo's first kill because it feels like Kubo is setting us up for something big with Orihime being freaked out on the sidelines.

Cara
07-08-2007, 06:08 PM
I sure hope Grimmy doesn't die. He is oddly fleshed-out for an arrancar, and he somehow strikes me as a character that sticks. I dunno. Maybe it's the hair. XD

Kojy
07-08-2007, 06:12 PM
He's dead, because there is no more room to grow for that character in that plot, plus with the colour spread and the arrancar that release face death afterwards just make my prediction more true. :(

PS: i don't want him to die, i'm a big fan of grimmy

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 06:12 PM
And maybe it's his hotness? xD

Cara
07-08-2007, 06:13 PM
And maybe it's his hotness? xD

Hmmmm....Also possible. He has the official "best abs of Bleach". :D

Riekie
07-08-2007, 06:14 PM
make it 'best body of Bleach' :D

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 06:16 PM
make it 'best body of Bleach' :D
Haha xD
Sure he deserves the title.

experimentchoco
07-08-2007, 06:21 PM
Hee hee...;) Totally. :glomp

krompt
07-08-2007, 06:21 PM
*akward feeling* >.> ok yea so i still think he is dead.

experimentchoco
07-08-2007, 06:24 PM
Well, no one has officially died in the series yet... Maybe Kubo will stick with that pattern with Grimmjaw! :D

Riekie
07-08-2007, 06:57 PM
Well too be honest..I rather have a clear sketched out death than the behind-the-scenes one...Rather a huge confirmation of it than something like that.

Nama
07-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Well, no one has officially died in the series yet... Maybe Kubo will stick with that pattern with Grimmjaw! :D
Hopefully so. I've been and will be anticipating to see what will happen to him. Will he survive, or will he die? . . .That rhymed somewhat. ><;

@Riekie: Yes, the best body of Bleach! Those are the words of truth. XD

krompt
07-08-2007, 07:03 PM
Well too be honest..I rather have a clear sketched out death than the behind-the-scenes one...Rather a huge confirmation of it than something like that.

Yea same here, i hate when series discontinue characters, and at the end of the series they say something stupid like " oh he died somewhere somehow by something" it's so annoying:mad:

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 07:03 PM
He'll survive!
Otherwise i will strike in front of Kubo-samas house every day and night,until he resurrect GJ somehow xD

krompt
07-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Dont do that..........it would be much more persuasive to send an angry letter:D

Riekie
07-08-2007, 07:14 PM
uh oh...please don't pull a 'Misery' on him, I beg of you!!

Sarada
07-08-2007, 07:25 PM
But Riekie .... he won't be there anymore :cry

On a different track.

.... EDIT ... i'll make it into a thread ...

Cara
07-08-2007, 07:30 PM
*akward feeling* >.> ok yea so i still think he is dead.

Lol, don't mind us. Just some fangirls ranting about his totally ripped body.:D

Riekie
07-08-2007, 07:30 PM
yeah..*sobs*

Then I'll just have to sharpen my pitchfork and light my torch already..who's with me!?

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 07:33 PM
Me!
Hail for the GJ-samas hotness !!

Cara
07-08-2007, 07:33 PM
I am!!! *thrusts hand up* I'll ready the lighter fluid!!!

Mei
07-08-2007, 07:39 PM
I don´t want Grimmy to die!! Nooo! >.<

He´s one of my most favoured characters of the new
introduced ones in the Arrancar arc.

But I tend to think that he won´t die. At least I very much hope so!
He´s a very popular protagonist and I´d be very surprised if he was the first villain to actually die in Bleach.

I´m very curious about what awaits us in the next chapters!^^

Nama
07-08-2007, 07:40 PM
Me too! *lights a torch* >D If Grimmjow dies, I'll cry. He mustn't die.
*prepares a funeral song for him just in case. . .*

Aww, MeiYara, that's so convincing! I already dwell in the thought that he'll live. . .but I'm still prepared for his death, I think.

krompt
07-08-2007, 07:47 PM
Maybe he'll die and then come back as a pure soul and join the good guys, and kill Aizen, save the cheerleader and the world.....:rolleyes:

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 07:49 PM
: hugs Nama,MeiYara,and every GJ fangirl:
Seriously i will get really mad if KT will kill Grimmy !
It's not fair!Kubo-sama is cruel!:cry
Krompt:I hope so xD

Mei
07-08-2007, 07:51 PM
Yeah, there must be some alternative or a special escape possible for him!
He has such a loved and extraordinary personality;
it wouldn´t be that interesting and exciting without him in Hueco Mundo!

+hugs Emi and Nama+ :3

Emi-Shimizu
07-08-2007, 07:55 PM
Thats right !
He made me insane xD
He made all the girls talk all the time about his hotness and kickass attitude!
It would be a suicide for KT seriously,if he kills GJ xD

Mei
07-08-2007, 07:58 PM
No, no, KT won´t kill him unless he wants to upset so many Grimmy fans...

Riekie
07-08-2007, 09:01 PM
*hugs all Grimmjow fangirls back*

my pitchfork is awfully sharp now..:D *starts munching on dry old bread* this happens when KT wants to piss off Grimmjow fans.

As long as KT won't pull a DBZ on us I'll be satisfied. I seriously don't want The Grimm to die *sobs* But if he has to I want to see his 'journey' of where he will go..hahaha maybe he'll be the first to enter Hell..although that's VERY unlikely to happen.

*Pitchfork is very frail and thin now..due to massive sharpening, Torch is light*

Axie
07-08-2007, 09:08 PM
The arc wont be as interesting without Grimm. Every arc needs their insane, crazy fighting rebel! I hope Kubo realizes that. Halibel might jump in... you never know.

I love how Grimmjow is changing Ichigo into a more deadly fighter... perhaps too deadly. I think he's giving Ichigo the fight he needs to finally alter his view on battles. And not to mention, Grimmjow has a ton of fans... Is Kubo prepared to let them all down?

...but, if Grimm were to die, I'd rather see him killed in an amazing battle with Ichigo... rather than being punished and killed by Aizen. Lame.

Riekie
07-08-2007, 09:13 PM
True...but if he were to die against Aizen it could still be epic. Who knows what Grimmjow would pull off or better yet say to Aizen before he were to be whiped out? I rather see him lose his life against Ichigo too..but the boss doing the dirty work is very interesting as well..other than some lackey named Ulquiorra or the 'wipe-out squad'.

*not dissing Ulquiorra's character..he's amazing!*

Sarada
07-08-2007, 09:51 PM
*lights a torch too*


I don't wanna see him dead :cry, I'd rather have it he'd turn good or whatever ... 3 more days and we'll know more ....

SiSL
07-08-2007, 09:53 PM
I'll get BBQ ready! Kitten-donner, Shish-Kebab, anything, you name it!

Sarada
07-08-2007, 09:56 PM
you just remember who made your avy Sisl :mad:

SiSL
07-08-2007, 09:57 PM
you just remember who made your avy Sisl :mad:

Ooopsie! Yeah Long live GJ! /hides salt

On the serious note, from this point on there is 5 possibilities:

1. Ichigo wins and let GJ live, possibly will cause GJ to be executed by some higher rank espada.

2. Ichigo wins and kills GJ, that will go for nervous breakdown of Orihime, how Ichigo can be that violent and such.

3. GJ wins and kills Ichigo, Bleach ends. Highly unlikely.

4. GJ wins and let Ichigo and friends go, which would most likely end up like #1

5. They can't beat each other before another interruption. Most Bleach fans will do suicide not to see a 4th fight between them.


On most possible scenerios, Grimmjow's end does not look so bright to me.

Riekie
07-08-2007, 10:12 PM
Grimmjow's future does not have a bright light and singing choir in it..but that doesn't mean he cannot live...Okay some things I won't tolerate if KT turns him into something..like less baddie...but oo well..I just want my Grimmjow fix:D

hahah and no..no suicide..the more grim the better:D

krompt
07-08-2007, 10:17 PM
Well 3rd is a charm and this is probably the big fight, i'm willing to bet that one of my favorite bleach characters are gonna die, it's supporting character against MAIN character, we know who gonna win in a fight to the death. And grimmjow might survive on his own will and vow to defeat Ichigo. But it's not like him to let someone intervine with his fight, he's havin way to much fun.

Surreal
07-08-2007, 10:20 PM
5. They can't beat each other before another interruption. Most Bleach fans will do suicide not to see a 4th fight between them.

Even Vegeta and Goku fought less:/


1. Ichigo wins and let GJ live, possibly will cause GJ to be executed by some higher rank espada.

This seems most likely to me. But then again, Kubo invested a lot into his character, he is popular and that would be the first "major" character getting offed. By all laws he should die here...let's see if Kubo has the balls to actually do it.

Riekie
07-08-2007, 10:24 PM
Better said: Let's see if the editors have the balls to put it in motion. If they don't want it..it won't happen..so as much as KT is trying to kill someone of but is denied..no death for us in store.

Surreal
07-08-2007, 10:26 PM
Better said: Let's see if the editors have the balls to put it in motion. If they don't want it..it won't happen..so as much as KT is trying to kill someone of but is denied..no death for us in store.


Well, Kishi is killing of an entire family one by one (Sarutobis) as well as Akatsuki so Kubo should be able to kill someone.

Riekie
07-08-2007, 10:31 PM
I am sorry..but I don't know those manga at all..:( but surely KT should have some power to kill one off..atleast..I hope so. All the editors can think about is money and how it would probably drop if a main character would've been offed.

Surreal
07-08-2007, 10:38 PM
I am sorry..but I don't know those manga at all..:( but surely KT should have some power to kill one off..atleast..I hope so. All the editors can think about is money and how it would probably drop if a main character would've been offed.

Kishimoto is the author of a manga called Naruto, Akatsuki and Sarutobi family are from it. Both Bleach and Naruto come out in the same magazine.

Riekie
07-08-2007, 11:03 PM
Ahh yes..I've heard of Naruto *shrugs*. Maybe they don't have the same editors or the same following..I dunno..or maybe it's because Naruto is running much longer than Bleach...I wish there's an explanation for it>.<

krompt
07-08-2007, 11:10 PM
What I dont like is the amount of loopholes that KT left for characters to come back to life if they died.

Velius
07-08-2007, 11:12 PM
Grimmjow doesn't have to die, he could fall into obscurity after this arc. He would be the next Kenpachi. I think he is more akin to follow that route, then to kill of his beloved characters. Getting the ok from the editors to kill characters is probably something he doesn't have to worry about much. Ha!

What I dont like is the amount of loopholes that KT left for characters to come back to life if they died.
That's Kubotite 101 right there. He likes his creations so much, he doesn't really want to see them go.

Riekie
07-08-2007, 11:26 PM
No..but who does? I can totally imagine it as being hard when you kill off a character which you created and 'gave birth' to.

Agh..He can also put Grimmjow in a coma for the rest of his Bleach life..and when he comes to, years later ofcourse, he will start rampaging again.

krompt
07-08-2007, 11:30 PM
Yeah and he will have to fight ichigo's grandson and their gonna have some destinies intertwined crap about them, i'd rather him become good or atleast blow up his body when he loses to ichigo so zael cant get info on ichigo.

Riekie
07-08-2007, 11:33 PM
Now now...KT will not pull a DBZ/DBGT on us..I hope I can promise thatXD.

But seriously...he should either die or become a lone gunman...no Vegeta this time..

Velius
07-08-2007, 11:38 PM
I wouldn't mind a Vegeta. Although I would put Renji more in that role. Grimm would be more like Buu. Pure bad guy, turns into good guy. But first, without any kind of reincarnation shiat, there would have to be a reason for him to switch sides...

Riekie
07-08-2007, 11:46 PM
Nah..I don't want Grimmjow to be as sweet as a puppy...only when his dog is shot he will become evil again..nah..too little evilness thenXD hahaha

I see Grimmjow more as Vegeta then Renji. Grimmjow has no problem whatsoever to kill his comrades/henchmen and totally enjoys fighting..seeking them out.

Renji is less of that.

Miranu
07-08-2007, 11:48 PM
If Aizen or one of their subordinates appears, and tell GJ, that he will die because of treason /and such/ I think he'll wanna join team Ichi :D But first they have to finish the battle.. that's first priority. I hope he won't die :D /but he should die cuz his released form XDDD/ I can imagine he'll become a good guy.. but he wuz like an ultimate Psycho, afer he killed Luppi, soo.. I can say one thing for sure >I the future is blurry X3 No one knows, what will happen :D

Surreal
07-09-2007, 12:24 AM
I wouldn't mind a Vegeta. Although I would put Renji more in that role. Grimm would be more like Buu. Pure bad guy, turns into good guy. But first, without any kind of reincarnation shiat, there would have to be a reason for him to switch sides..

Well, Buu had a split personality from the beginning...after absorbing the former Supreme Kai or whatever. That gave him his childish personality and a part of him became good. Grimmjow is nothing like that.

krompt
07-09-2007, 12:28 AM
Grimmjow is most like Kenpachi......but ther from the same manga and I would hate to start up another DBZ comparison thread, i've been through enough:p

Shirosaki
07-09-2007, 02:21 AM
ulqui cuts his head off

Riekie
07-09-2007, 07:30 AM
Erm..care to explain that Shirosaki:p

Nocturne
07-09-2007, 04:20 PM
I still hope he lives. He's the rebel without a cause and I like that about him. I know I said I want him to become good, but what I mean is that I think he can help the good side and still be badass without turning into a wuss. As long as what he does is for his own purpose. Help Ichigo because it serves him. I know it's formulaic, but come on, he's too cool a character to kill off. But that's just me. I also think he should have a rematch with Tousen..and win. You can do it Grimmjow!!!

Sarada
07-09-2007, 06:04 PM
This seems most likely to me. But then again, Kubo invested a lot into his character, he is popular and that would be the first "major" character getting offed. By all laws he should die here...let's see if Kubo has the balls to actually do it.

If Kubo had balls he would've killed a lot more good guys, and I don't mean nameless shinigami. He's already killed a lot of Arrancar, so that wouldn't be a shocking thing. Offcourse we'd be shocked because we love Grimmy :(

About him becoming Vegeta ... I have no problems in him joining the good side, but please, if he does, he's gotta drop the rivalry with Ichigo. That's what i disliked very much about Vegeta, the constant "I'll be the one to kill you!", it was pretty boring at the end. Not to mention Vegeta hurting his family and friends repeatedly just for that rivalry. That part of him, sorry to say, was truley pathetic. That's also why I do NOT like the rivalry that's going on now. They have to settle it now, and then drop it if they both live on.

Emi-Shimizu
07-09-2007, 06:12 PM
Yep.We love him to death xD
I hope KT wont kill him.I wrote this countless times.
And i said before,that if KT will kill GJ,he will commit a suicide,since Grimmy has so many fans.Seriously i won't let Kubo-san live :evil laughter:
Don't worry fellow GJ fans.Cheer up ! <3
Oh and Vegeta sucks imho xP

Primera Espada
07-09-2007, 10:06 PM
An arrancar without character flaws is no arrancar at all XD

It does seem a little hopeless though, since we've now seen all of Grimmjow's powers. He's comparable to Byakuya. Sure, he lived, but we never saw him in action again. I don't see Grimmjow being just another face in the crowd though. I think that the only way for his character to NOT be important anymore is death.

@lch3mizt
07-10-2007, 09:34 PM
What mean goner??.........can any tell me ??????

Syn
07-10-2007, 09:35 PM
Goner as dead, gone, won't be back, nada, niet.