View Full Version : Arrancar and Espada... daily needs?
This question has been bothering me for quite some time. Do arrancar need to eat, drink, and sleep? Humans and Shinigami need to sleep and eat... while Hollows eat souls and don't need sleep.
Since humans evenually turn into souls and go to Soul Society, the Shinigami are like humans more than anything. So their souls need to eat and sleep.
But, when some hollows turn into arrancar... are traits passed down? Do arrancar strictly eat souls and don't need sleep? This has been confusing me for a while because whenever the Espada have a meeting, Aizen serves them tea. So the arrancar can drink tea? What would it look like if Ulquiorra drank tea... would it spill out? O.O
Another thing, at one point in the manga, Aizen tells them to return to their rooms... would that mean that they have beds? It's hard to imagine a personal room with out a bed. Maybe the rooms are completely white with one little wooden chair. (:
I'm still torn... because Arrancar are supposed to be the link between hollows and Shinigami. Outwardly, they're supposed to look more like shinigami, while inwardly they have the instint and needs of a hollow.
What do you think?
hyiceme
06-29-2007, 02:22 AM
hey hey Axie!!! <3
What would it look like if Ulquiorra drank tea... would it spill out? O.O
lol! that's so funny!! :D I don't think it's appropriate for him to drink...anything...in front of anyone. :P
Well, We don't really have enough information on this matter, but I do believe arrancars and espadas need food (whatever forms of food) and sleep too. After all, they are still spirits. oh and remember one of espadas was lying on a chair or something (acting lazily just like Shunsui :P), it kinda implies that they do rest. Also, regarding orihime's food. If they don't eat regular food, where would they get those things? That's kinda odd... They actually went to real world just to get her some food? =_=
I remember when Yammi and Ulquiorra came to Earth for the first time Yammi used a soul suck power (sorrry don't remember the name) and ate all the souls in the area except for Tatsuki.
Ulquiorra commented on how the souls and air was weaker than HM and it made sense that it would be less tasty.
Also remember Aaroniero and Szayel ate other hollows. I think if they do eat it will be other hollows and souls. Maybe some tea on the side thanks to Aizen.
*Tries not to picture Ulquiorra drinking tea and it spilling out*
Shannon
06-29-2007, 03:20 AM
What would it look like if Ulquiorra drank tea... would it spill out? O.O
LMAOLMAOLMAO. That's be so funny. But I can imagine drinking like if he was drinking during England's tea time. Ahaha, pinky up! I wonder if they sleep too. And they eat souls, I guess. But I really do wonder how much they'd have to eat to fulfill them?
EDIT: And hollows. ;)
Gintoki
06-29-2007, 08:37 AM
It's more important to Ulquiorra to draw his Eye Makup, than to eat.
And for Grimmjow... he doesn't even have a stomach, to begin with
DeDaL
06-29-2007, 08:55 AM
This has been confusing me for a while because whenever the Espada have a meeting, Aizen serves them tea. So the arrancar can drink tea? What would it look like if Ulquiorra drank tea... would it spill out? O.O
Um, basically, shinigami need to eat to replenish their reiryoku(*can't remember the right spelling*), hollows eat to "fill in the empty heart".
I think that hybridisation into an arrankar makes feeding back to shinigami's "replenishing power" instead of hollow's mental dysfunction. So, Arrankar must eat to regain their reiryoku. And they can drink Aizen's tea because it's basically consisting of reishi as everything in Hueco Mundo or Soul Society.
*imagines Ulquiorra chewing a wall during a heated battle*
spacecat
06-29-2007, 09:00 AM
I dunno Stark seems to wanna sleep a lot. I wonder what people would say though, if Kubo dedicated panels to Grimmjow getting in his jammy jams and hopping into bed.
Point is... While chapters being only 20 pages and story in turtle speed, I really don't like to see frames spared for daily needs :D
Use your imagination for toilet, sleep, eating and such :D
Riekie
06-29-2007, 10:06 AM
haha well I for one would love to see that...it makes it more 'normal' then the usual fight, searching for fight, drinking tea with Aizen and fight.
But then again..we saw a couch standing in Orihime's room (las noches) and so they have all those 'luxuries' in Hollow land as well. Still I find it weird though...ghosts/dead people with housing and all...
speedphantom
06-29-2007, 11:24 AM
I dunno Stark seems to wanna sleep a lot. I wonder what people would say though, if Kubo dedicated panels to Grimmjow getting in his jammy jams and hopping into bed.Bwahaha XD I'd love to see Grimmjow in his jammy jams. Would strip him of all toughness, I wonder what pattern he'd have on them. :ptoy trucks, planets and stars, dinosaurs ^^
Good point Axie. I don't see why the arrancar would act different to humans and shinigami since they are practically human.
MTV Cribs: Hueco Mundo:rolleyes:
if Kubo dedicated panels to Grimmjow getting in his jammy jams and hopping into bed.
Lol. XD "jammy jams"
DeDaL, thanks for explaining! You make perfect sence.
Sidonzo
06-29-2007, 10:24 PM
HeeHee! Awesome thread! :D I've often wondered all that too. I've always thought that as long as the arrancar stay in HM they don't need to eat other souls because of the high spirit energy in the area. If they were to stay on Earth for any period of time they would have to eat souls though. Also it's weird to think of them eating or drinking anything else because all of their holes are placed in inconvient places for comsuming any physical...maybe their food and drink is made out of spiritual energy too. HeeHee! It's all rather weird. I do think they sleep though since Stark is shown sleeping or resting.
~Sid
Eloni
06-14-2008, 09:03 AM
I dunno Stark seems to wanna sleep a lot. I wonder what people would say though, if Kubo dedicated panels to Grimmjow getting in his jammy jams and hopping into bed.
Lol, I'd like to see that :XD
Anyway, the question was bothering me as well. I remember Neliel saying in a flashback that she's hungry and it's almost lunchtime. I don't think that if they only eat souls they'd have specific time -like lunchtime- for that. Just imagine all the Espada gathering for soulhunting in tiny little feeders:XD
So I think they eat normal food as well since they are partly shinigami and I definitely believe that they need sleap. However, it would be funny to see the tea spilling from their soulchain hole:XD (or how ya call it)
hinamori_momo
06-14-2008, 09:10 AM
I think it'd be good if kubo showed us some of the stuff but we've only see the receive tea when aizen was telling them about the ryoka
igniz
06-14-2008, 11:43 AM
In her first flashback, Nell said "it's dinner time, I'm hungry" and looked for Dondochaka and Pesshe to have a meal with them. In one of "arrancar encyclopedia" Gin explained that small hollows eat spirit particles of HM, I assume arrancars do the same, but they'd rather have spirit particles in a tasty form (like tea :p), after all whatever that can be found in SS or HM is made of spirit particles, food and water included.
from what we've seen so far they do eat, drink and sleep
and i doubt they do it just because they can, it is most likely a physiological requirement, they must do it
With szayels ability we were shown that shinigami (and most liekly hollows and arrancar) all have all the normal internal organs as regular humans, so it isn't a stretch to think that they function in the same way
random thought: they can eat, i doubt they use the bathroom:p
:lmao
La`Punyeta
06-14-2008, 01:43 PM
I think they do sleep...Stark demonstrated it...
fun thought on how they sleep
Ulquiorra sleeps by plucking out his eyes...
Szayel having a beauty sleep..
Halibel sleeps while arms are still folded...
for food...like others said..They eat either hollows or small spirit particles...
and I think they can watch TV..We've seen Tousen watching one..
Soranushi
06-14-2008, 01:55 PM
Yeah I always wonder this too and I got into an argument once awhile back about this subject. Anyway after coming out of that said debate I continued to believe they do all the normal stuff like eat sleep etc. But I also began to accept that they can also still eat Souls, however, I don't believe that the Arrancars need to eat Souls anymore like hollows but only do it if they want to eat some. So basically I believe they do the normal stuff we do everyday but can still eat Souls once in awhile.
Sonial
06-14-2008, 02:36 PM
Ex. Zomari sleeps by meditating or something.
Urahara sleeps by plucking out his eyes
Halibel sleeps by extending his shirt over his face..
I think you mean Ulq? I really don't see Kisuke ripping his eyes out...
And if Halibel is a man then Kubo is just sick.
La`Punyeta
06-14-2008, 03:01 PM
my bad I sometimes put urahara when i mention Ulquiorra..and lol his shirt...
oh man..too many things are on my head...
btw thx for the correction
memopanda
06-14-2008, 03:09 PM
Well I really don't think Ulquiorra can eat... his Hollow hole is in a really awkward place. :oops Unless when arrancar eat, the food (being made of spirit stuff) kinda just 'embues' them with energy instead of being digested. Arrancar anatomy =/= equipped for digestion (cf Grimmjow). Orihime in HM is technically just a spirit, so it's probably the same for her. Do spirits need to use the loo? :headscratch
Getting waaaaaaay too into this... :rotflmao
One more thing: I remember thinking that Aizen with the tea was kinda trying to enforce his own preferences on the arrancar... I don't remember any of them looking that enthusiastic about actually drinking it. (Especially Ulquiorra. :D) Natural arrancar before Aizen came along probably just ate other hollows like everyone else.
Eloni
06-14-2008, 03:29 PM
Yeah, Grimmjow really could suck at digestion:XD
I agree with the no digestion part, that 'spirit stuff' (I dunno it's name either) must pep them up magically.
Soranushi
06-14-2008, 04:37 PM
Lol Yeah, those H.Holes in their bodies do kinda mess up the eating food Idea but that should also apply to Normal hollows since they have holes too. So I think the best way to explain it is that once they ingest the food it breaks down into Reishi or Reiryoku, and, is thus processed into their bodies like normal food which should quell their Hunger until the eat later. Thanks Memopanda for the idea:)
the holes are only a representation of their hollow heart, it dosnt really have any meaning in their biology or eating habits. their internal and outside world dont collide with each other.
stark espada
06-14-2008, 04:49 PM
Well we know this for a fact above all others they are cannibals (its a dog eat dog in HM) So that right there kind of proves that they eat and szayel ate one of his fraccion so I think that also proves they can eat in Arrancar form as for drinking Aizen gave his espada tea so from that I am assuming that they can in fact drink things as well.
igniz
06-14-2008, 06:48 PM
I think you're overthinking a little, like having a huge hole through the head like Noitra is making any physiological sense.
As for the loo: in chapter 138 Iba said he got asleep on the toilets and that his guts were messed up, so I dare anyone to ask for details about that :p
We're adding logic to an unlogical situation, we shouldn't assume having a hole would get in the way of digestion, just because they shouldn't be alive if they had that hole
I guarentee everyone that we have this out far more than kubo did:lmao
When the HM arc started Ishida commented that th smaller hollows could probably survive just by the amount of the reishi in the air
so, larger ones can't do that, meaning they need to eat it
And hollows can eat people and souls, so it doesn't just have to be reishi
overthinking ftw:yell
This sounds fun! ^_______^
They brought food out to Orihime. So they obviously have a kitchen SOMEWHERE. If not a kitchen like we would be used to, then a place to shape reiatsu into tasty roasted turkey. All the stripped shirted skull headed hollow people are practically like servents/maids, etc. (the one that Yammy smashed. The one that brought the food)
The quarters seem to be outfitted to the tastes of the particular Arrancar. I also think your rank determines the size of your room. Where Aaroniero fought Rukia, the giant warehouse building thing, that WAS his room(I believe he said it or it was indicated somewhere) He didn't have much in it though. Szayel's was a freaking lab, and the way it seemed, he controlled the whole fighting area and surrounding hallways as his 'room'. Zommari just had large geometrical structures to sit on. I think stark had pillows and Yammy had a Bon Jovi poster on his wall or something.:XD
Compare Hueco Mundo to Soul Society. Soul Society looks, for the most part, like modern day earth. They even have running power lines in places. They have everything that the human world does it seems. Just because the architecture in Hueco Mundo is different doesn't mean they are lacking these things. Look at Las Noches. If it can have something as complicated as a Hallway switching device, then I think it can manage indoor plumbing and an oven.
Sonial
06-15-2008, 02:24 AM
Compare Hueco Mundo to Soul Society. Soul Society looks, for the most part, like modern day earth. They even have running power lines in places. They have everything that the human world does it seems. Just because the architecture in Hueco Mundo is different doesn't mean they are lacking these things. Look at Las Noches. If it can have something as complicated as a Hallway switching device, then I think it can manage indoor plumbing and an oven.
But man, who built Las Noches? High ceilings, indoor plumbing, AND a reishi kitchen? I find it hard to believe Aizen & co. managed to get that many hollows that could build this palace of his. Independant contractors?
... Or just Aizen being so sweet that he can make a castle appear with his Zanpakutou.
Eloni
06-15-2008, 12:25 PM
I'm not sure, but I think that was mentioned somewhere that Aizen created LN with the Hougyoku (once again, I'm not sure).
And anyway, comparing HM with SS, do you think arrancars can have babies like souls in SS? It's not a really important question, I know, but it always bothered me. Arrancars are partly shinigami and they have the required 'equipment' (i.e. Stark's balls:XD) to reproduce, but is it really needed to reproduce in the 'normal' way or they just born from hollows with the help of the Hougyoku? I'm not against either variations, I'm just curious about your opinions.
La`Punyeta
06-15-2008, 03:27 PM
And anyway, comparing HM with SS, do you think arrancars can have babies like souls in SS? It's not a really important question, I know, but it always bothered me. Arrancars are partly shinigami and they have the required 'equipment' (i.e. Stark's balls) to reproduce, but is it really needed to reproduce in the 'normal' way or they just born from hollows with the help of the Hougyoku? I'm not against either variations, I'm just curious about your opinions.
I think they could if they tried...but their pleasure is on killing and destroying things...
memopanda
06-15-2008, 05:13 PM
I think stark had pillows and Yammy had a Bon Jovi poster on his wall or something.:XD:roflAnd anyway, comparing HM with SS, do you think arrancars can have babies like souls in SS?:headscratch My gut reaction is to say no.
I think that when Hollows become shinigami it is mainly their spirit/power that is affected, as opposed to their bodies, which become superficially like shinigami to reflect the power thing but are still inherently freaky and illogical (Hollow holes, Arroniero's head). Therefore they don't gain the physical abilities of humans or shinigami. A parallel might be that a Vizard using Hollow powers has a Hollow mask to represent that, but doesn't get special physical abilities. Just a thought.
Of course, I have nothing to back this up. :XD
Still, Vizards and Arrancar are difficult to compare. Do arrancar have inner shinigami? :confused:
Soranushi
06-15-2008, 06:00 PM
Can they make babies? Well they should be able to in theory so I think they can if they tried or wanted to have babies it'd be interesting if they did have baby Arrancars running around LN:lmao.
Eloni
06-15-2008, 06:53 PM
Still, Vizards and Arrancar are difficult to compare. Do arrancar have inner shinigami? :confused:
I was wondering if they had zanpakouto spirits or at least inner worlds, but I have to admit I don't even have a clue:XD
wolvenlied
06-16-2008, 02:55 PM
I dig your sig with Orihime and Ulquiorra :D
I think perhaps Arrancer eat Hollows. They'd have a pretty boring life if all they did was sleep all day :p
Midnighttoker
06-17-2008, 03:58 PM
I think they just drink tea and sleep just for the hell of it. After all they are still hollows, so I think they may only need spirit particles, and they can get that from the dense atmosphere of hueco Mundo.
Eloni
06-17-2008, 04:10 PM
I think that is was stated that the little hollow creatures, like that hollow lizard, can get enough spirit particles from the air, but IMO it isn't enough for the Espada or the Arrancar.
I think that is was stated that the little hollow creatures, like that hollow lizard, can get enough spirit particles from the air, but IMO it isn't enough for the Espada or the Arrancar.
I agree, and that is also what ishida implies
the higher level hollows, especially the arrancars probably need some type of food (thats why the menos eat each other and all:p)
tari101190
06-17-2008, 05:13 PM
high level hollows and arrancar probably eat other high level hollows yeah...
menos (and arrancar i guess) don't eat human souls. they don't even seem to goto earth. since they HAVE to eat other menos the same level as them or they'll devolve.
only normal hollows goto earth to eat humans i think.
Eloni
06-18-2008, 05:45 AM
Agree, maybe human souls aren't enough for them, or they would have to eat lots of them to live and that'd be too troublesome, unless every Arrancar have that 'Soulbreath' kinda thingie what Yammi used.
laurie b.
06-21-2008, 01:30 PM
This thread is a crack idea generator :XD
for food...like others said..They eat either hollows or small spirit particles...
and I think they can watch TV..We've seen Tousen watching one..
Grimmjow: Daddy Aizen says you're watching too much TV.
Ulquiorra: ...
Tousen: Go to bed now, young man!
Ulquiorra: (sulking)
Tousen: And no cheating. Shut off that thing and take your eyeball with you.
One more thing: I remember thinking that Aizen with the tea was kinda trying to enforce his own preferences on the arrancar... I don't remember any of them looking that enthusiastic about actually drinking it. (Especially Ulquiorra. :D) Natural arrancar before Aizen came along probably just ate other hollows like everyone else.
I totally agree with this! I think the tea was used to show the irony of the situation -- Aizen's like, hey, we're not savage beasts here; we drink tea with our little pinkies up. The formalities of tea-drinking (whether Western or Asian) smacks of images that include elitism, control, power -- and Empire.
What I want to know is, has Kubo drawn any omakes showing the Arrancar and the Espada doing normal stuff like eating, drinking, going to the loo...? :confused: I've read the colored omakes and they all feature the lighter side of shinigami existence -- I mean, you have Nanao and Matsumoto wearing aprons making valentine chocolates, that sort of thing.
If Kubo's done any sort of work like this, I'd love to see it. I mean, I know he's really not going to waste any of his weekly 20 pages on Grimmjow figuring out the plumbing of his digestive tract but at least some official omakes would expand the HM world, just as it did for Soul Society in terms of the silly, everyday stuff.
Eloni
06-21-2008, 02:19 PM
Grimmjow: Daddy Aizen says you're watching too much TV.
Ulquiorra: ...
Tousen: Go to bed now, young man!
Ulquiorra: (sulking)
Tousen: And no cheating. Shut off that thing and take your eyeball with you.
:lmao
Man, you have some sense of humour.:XD
What I want to know is, has Kubo drawn any omakes showing the Arrancar and the Espada doing normal stuff like eating, drinking, going to the loo...? :confused:
I'm afraid there aren't any omake about HM and the Espada. Seems like we have to put up with the Arrancar Encyclopedia in the anime.
Riekie
06-21-2008, 02:41 PM
yeah, he should give the Espada some lovin' and not just SS..>.>
La`Punyeta
06-21-2008, 03:25 PM
Grimmjow: Daddy Aizen says you're watching too much TV.
Ulquiorra: ...
Tousen: Go to bed now, young man!
Ulquiorra: (sulking)
Tousen: And no cheating. Shut off that thing and take your eyeball with you.
LOL! ..and Ichimaru's the nanny...
oh yeah.. I've been wondering about this...Do Aizen and the others celebrate something at HM? like Aizen's bday??
Lol..Espadas giving him presents and a cake..
hinamori_momo
06-22-2008, 12:08 AM
:rotflmao. i think that they do eat sometimes i guess. but if they do watch TV what do they watch? Hollow celebrities singing?
:rotflmao. i think that they do eat sometimes i guess. but if they do watch TV what do they watch? Hollow celebrities singing?
arrancar watching TV :lmao
Las Noches Idol perhaps:rofl
for some reason that made me think of a school in HM, where younger hollows go to learn about eating, and the upper levels of menos and such
i think i may need sleep:lmao
La`Punyeta
06-22-2008, 03:59 AM
but if they do watch TV what do they watch?
Bleach I suppose XD and their favorite part of the show is the Arrancar Encyclopedia..
for some reason that made me think of a school in HM, where younger hollows go to learn about eating, and the upper levels of menos and such
Las Noches Academy...Your arrancarization starts here!
Dai Sun
06-22-2008, 04:19 AM
I think HM is a much darker, more sinister place than SS would ever be. Where souls that go to SS are still human (albeit dead), hollows are more like savage beasts that talk and are a little more intelligent. It's a world where all its inhabitants are constantly fighting to get to and stay at the top. And as it's eternal night in HM, I don't think there actually is a light side to it.
Remember that Aizen's coming was like a beacon of light for them. I'd imagine that being former humans, hollows, especially those that have gotten to the adjucas stage, do experience hope. And more than likely, they probably tire of the eternal fighting and battling. Las Noches actually has a roof with a faux-sky and sun, probably to give the false impression of warmth and comfort.
The lightest side we've seen is Nel and co.'s game of never-ending tag, and that's because Nel's fraccion feel that was the best way to keep her away from Las Noches and out of the jaws of the other hunters in HM. Come to think of it, the most "humane" moments are between espada and their fraccion. But there are undertones of rivalry between the espada, and fraccion of different espada probably don't associate with each other for that reason.
Eloni
06-22-2008, 07:57 AM
I never realized, but you're right about that the most humane moments are between the espada and their fracción. I wonder if they have the same emotions as humans. We saw they can feel mostly "negative" feelings, anger, hatred and so on, but there are also respect in some cases and a thing I can only call 'concern' (in the case of Loly and Menoly and Nnoitra and Tesla-mostly on Tesla's part). And there's Neliel and her bond with her fracción, but that's maybe a special case.
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