View Full Version : Bleach 281 THE VULGARIAN NOISE Spoilers and Discussion
spacecat
06-27-2007, 05:39 AM
Put all spoilers etc for Bleach 281 here. If you take translations from elsewhere please give credit. Myself or another mod will put everything in the first post.
Here is the compressed file (.ZIP) Thanks to Lady Orihime
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nyh1ql
Bleach RAW (not Jojo's) Thanks to Mz D
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1...c521 16b13224 (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1db7ccb57ecadd35cb36451a58fbe7c4802bc521 16b13224)
Chinese Scanlation of the whole chapter by JOJOhot:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V3Y3EY9V
Pics thanks to Samnas:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6656/908vo8.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4636/916db5.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7553/920yz1.jpg
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http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8528/929hn2.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3303/925bo3.jpg
5 HQ scans posted by dbssdb:
spacecat: Ichigo is saying "nanda on'atsu" which i'm pretty sure means "What...? Sound pressure!? or "acoustic/noise pressure".
http://i12.tinypic.com/54aiccp.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/6763bwj.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/66425x2.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/4lxktgx.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/4tkriwp.jpg
From 2ch posted by spacecat:
http://i10.tinypic.com/537rrrb.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/6ewm99x.jpg
Guy who posted these below said "yes pantera" which would go with the spoiler below. Top pic says "hyou ou" (panther king), the bottom pic says "Kishire" (grind).
http://i18.tinypic.com/4xxh55u.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/664y9g4.jpg
Summary by Annie from a Thai forum:
Chapter 281: The Vulgarian Noise.
Ichigo turned into a Vaizard and Orihime saw it. She was scared (or shock) of Ichigo and before she could say anything Ichigo apologised to her for scaring her and asked her to believe in him, it'll be over soon.
GJ saw Ichigo turned Vaizard so he himself released (Grind, Pantera!). GJ hitted Ichigo over and over again. After that he taunted Ichigo (So...this is not all you got, hurry up!). Right after his taunted Ichigo appeared from behind and released Getsuga Tenshou but GJ managed to destroyed it within one hand. He laughed and said "Great! Kurosaki Ichigo!! Your eyes (the way Ichigo looks) That's what irritates me!"
Pretty much a just a fight and Ichigo reassured Orihime. Nothing much though, I guess we have to wait until the RAW come out because I really can't describe the fight scene, sorry.
Translation by spacecat of the spoiler:
Grimmjow releases panther king (pantera), some beast like thing resembling a reotado (so a leopard or a leotard wtf?) and I (he) left out any details of plot or story since it doesn't advance at all...
Spoiler posted by Da'Flash:
GJJJの解放は豹王(パンチラ)
若干獣っぽいけど、なんかレオタードはいてるみたいな格好。ストーリーは進んでないから省略。
bump thread since loljaw pic
yanniv
06-27-2007, 11:34 AM
You mean sonic the hedgehog.
DeDaL
06-27-2007, 11:37 AM
Looks real...but kinda lame... T__T
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/Judas_Priest-Jugulator.jpg
Lol DeDal! XD XD XD
And yeah the first one is... good photoshop skills I guess? haha XD It looks like a mix between DBZ and whatsoever XD
Spike
06-27-2007, 11:43 AM
If that's his actual release then it's the most ugly yet, even worse than Arron's.
sasuki-chan
06-27-2007, 11:49 AM
since it's too soon for a pic I'd say it's fake.
But I lol'ed when I saw the pic,it reminds me of Sonic and DBZ XD
I so hope grimmjw's release is more cool-looking than that...
maybe this is what was meant when it was said espada releases were different...that they were really horrible.
I hope its real, loljaw might die soon >_>
lacks a mask though...
spacecat
06-27-2007, 11:50 AM
hmm we used to get pics often on wednesday, so i wouldn't use that as a reason for it being fake.
DeDaL
06-27-2007, 11:50 AM
If that's his actual release then it's the most ugly yet, even worse than Arron's.
Well, it's not quite that bad, but seriously, it looks too lame for Kubo. For the sake of manga-ka I hope this one is fake. I don't think Kubo would do Grimmjow's real form that would be missing the "grimm-jaw"...
P.S> Hope is hope, but my guts tell me that this is real... T___T
Nah the lack of mask is too much; if I recall right, all the other Arrancars kept their masks when they released. There is little to no chance that GJ would lose his just because he's an Espada. So I call fake :p
spacecat
06-27-2007, 11:59 AM
edit ah ignore i mixed 力 with 九 >_>
Da'Flash
06-27-2007, 12:01 PM
Sangoku Super Saiian 3 oO
Zangetsu01
06-27-2007, 12:27 PM
XD, Grimm "Sonic" Jow :D, with blue hair.
wait and see:rolleyes:
juunana
06-27-2007, 12:33 PM
O_o LOL...I don't know what to think really XD. I don't think its that bad...yeh as ppl said its very sonic lmao and DBZ looking XD.The legs kind of look insect like =/. Well if its fake who ever drew it has some skill XD. The lack of mask is quite odd. Interesting anyways even if its fake XD.
Planeswalker
06-27-2007, 12:39 PM
If its fake then its really cool. Somebody has talent~
If its real then I once again sigh in Bleach's general direction.
Saffire
06-27-2007, 12:54 PM
Eh, Edorad didn't have any mask after he released, so it's possible...
On the other hand, it makes Grimmy look wayyy too bishie. It's well done and looks cool, but not for this manga or that character.
Ah, he didn't? Mmh, well, if this pic is true, I'm totally making an released!GJ icon with the 'Sonic heroes' text XD
Shinrin
06-27-2007, 01:15 PM
Not sure if i like it or not...It is strange with the lack of the jaw not to forget this dosn't resemble anything to come to mind that might have had Grimm's original jaw.
Still it looks pretty cool, thoug i need more pictures to see if it do him justic, atleast the shreder arms are awesome.
Danna
06-27-2007, 01:21 PM
Ah.. I bet this pic is real, tho
On those pages it said "chikara wo, okori wo kaihou suru" which means "Power and anger are released!"
If it is a fake someone's done a good job making it look like it's from a weekly manga book. It even has the bend from a 2 page spread and the cheap paper look.
I do think Grimmjaw looks like a strange mix between himself and SSJ3.
Gintoki
06-27-2007, 01:54 PM
That's what i call "Fake Classic". I feel pity for the person, who spent hours and hours on this, only to make me realize in 5 seconds, that it's a fake. Next time boy.
Frosted Heart
06-27-2007, 01:57 PM
Oh man, I really do hope it's a fake. =/ The design just doesn't seem to mesh with what I thought his release would be (but then again, what do I know?).
His long hair is what's killing me though! Guess he needs a haircut after every time he releases. If it's indeed a fake, it's very convincing.
Saint Jack
06-27-2007, 01:59 PM
Hmm, Himajin didn't post any spoilers yet. He only made one comment, a long time ago, that I could find (someone translate? and it doesn't seem like its from one of those fake Himajins)
http://anime2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/comicnews/1182402463/487
As to the picture, I've seen those before on 2ch (not that particular one, but stuff like that posted in the bleach spoiler section before).
icyichigo
06-27-2007, 02:01 PM
Alkador's translation from mangahelpers:
Rough translation:
Sidtext: His power, his anger...he releases!
spacecat
06-27-2007, 02:08 PM
Hmm, Himajin didn't post any spoilers yet. He only made one comment, a long time ago, that I could find (someone translate? and it doesn't seem like its from one of those fake Himajins)
http://anime2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/comicnews/1182402463/487
As to the picture, I've seen those before on 2ch (not that particular one, but stuff like that posted in the bleach spoiler section before).
Yeah that is actually a fake himajin, the real himajin did say something before though but hasn't showed up since.
I could only do を, 怒いを and i mixed 力 with 九 which obviously changes the meaning @_@ so thanks for correcting danna.
Just want to add the way that text on the right is there in a white blob and not really blending with the background is kinda what makes me think it's fake >_>
Saint Jack
06-27-2007, 02:12 PM
Thanks spacecat. I don't recall ever this many people forging Himajin's trip. Nothing is sacred anymore.
srry
Danna
06-27-2007, 02:17 PM
^It's the same as we already had =[]=!!
@spacecat : ^^b 問題無い!I know it's really hard to recognise all the kanji.
Da'Flash
06-27-2007, 02:20 PM
This was posted before we get the spoiler pic:
GJJJの解放は豹王(パンチラ)
若干獣っぽいけど、なんかレオタードはいてるみたいな格好。
ストーリーは進んでないから省略。
あ、間違えたパンテラです。
なんだよパンチラって…
GJ releases as a panther...
furato
06-27-2007, 02:20 PM
If it's a fake, it's a really good fake because paper colour's not that easy to blend without a trace. But the sideburns look different.
This was posted before we get the spoiler pic:
GJJJの解放は豹王(パンチラ)
若干獣っぽいけど、なんかレオタードはいてるみたいな格好。
ストーリーは進んでないから省略。
あ、間違えたパンテラです。
なんだよパンチラって…
GJ releases as a panther...
Again? Oh, geez, I swear I already heard that one XD
spacecat
06-27-2007, 02:34 PM
Yeah its about as bad as the pic and doesn't really match it.
Says: Grimmjow releases panther king (pantera), some beast like thing resembling a reotado (so a leopard or a leotard wtf?) and he left out any details of plot or story since it doesn't advance at all...nice.
lol maybe reotado is really meaning retarded lmao
edit: and lol Danna, no problems no :) only with my japanese ahaha
Velius
06-27-2007, 02:38 PM
Awww, good jebus. I think I'll just go with, 'lets wait and see'. It's kinda not still too early. But it makes sence there will be a flood of fakes. So who knows.
Da'Flash
06-27-2007, 02:40 PM
leotard wtf?
I think you're shocked cause you know that Léotard is a french politician >_>
spacecat
06-27-2007, 02:45 PM
I think you're shocked cause you know that Léotard is a french politician >_>
lol no xD i just had images of GJ dancing around in a ballerina's leotard actually :p
I think you're shocked cause you know that Léotard is a french politician >_>
Oh, I forgot about him and now I'm picturing GJ as Léotard. THAT IS TOTALLY NOT A COOL PIC.
leotard...where?
http://i19.tinypic.com/66lgkg3.jpg
Saint Jack
06-27-2007, 02:59 PM
Hey I wouldn't de dissing leotards, there's gonna be some easy money when Lu Lu Lemon makes its IPO.
Da'Flash
06-27-2007, 03:01 PM
Oh, I forgot about him and now I'm picturing GJ as Léotard. THAT IS TOTALLY NOT A COOL PIC.
LoL don't worry it will pass ^^
Now imagine Léotard in a leotard... oO
leotard...where?
http://i19.tinypic.com/66lgkg3.jpg
LOL
Gintoki
06-27-2007, 03:01 PM
I was hoping for a grimm release this week. But if it's that, then it really sucks.
debbiechan
06-27-2007, 03:04 PM
ohhh, I was so hoping "homage" instead of "lame" when I saw the pic--glad to hear its fake.
spacecat
06-27-2007, 03:17 PM
someone just posted these...they wrote "yes pantera" with it.
http://i18.tinypic.com/4xxh55u.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/664y9g4.jpg
Saint Jack
06-27-2007, 03:19 PM
Woot! Early pics! Just seen those posted on 2ch, man those guys are fast.
gab00n
06-27-2007, 03:21 PM
It looks as if part of his mask is above his eyes. The artwork doesn't feel like Kubo though so I am calling it a fake but it must have taken some effort to pull it off like that.
Ahh, the new pics certainly are real. It looks as if Grimmjow will soon be releasing.
Well, it's not like those pics are very telling XD We knew Ichigo and GJ were going to fight anyway lol XD
Nocturne
06-27-2007, 03:24 PM
Woo, pics! Seeing it this early totally made my Wednesday! Thanks spacecat!
oh the real pics came out now :D
maybe grim will actually release now
spacecat
06-27-2007, 03:26 PM
I dunno if they are real, it's hard to tell, I dunno who posted them but it wasn't himajin and I didn't recognise them from another chapter. Something seems weird about it to me but maybe im just paranoid @_@
Frosted Heart
06-27-2007, 03:27 PM
My first reaction to a possible Grimmjow release: Oh wow, coooool! :D I want to see it!
My second reaction to a possible Grimmjow release: Oh crap, run away, Grimmjow! You just gave yourself the arrancar kiss of death. :(
Thanks for the pics, spacecat! I eagerly await the chapter (though I more eagerly await the end of this fight, hopefully with GJ still alive and kicking).
Zangetsu01
06-27-2007, 03:27 PM
Well, if Ichigo with Mask force Grimm to release, we'll have "Sonic" Grimm slaughtering Ichigo next week:D
Velius
06-27-2007, 03:31 PM
The new pics look good. Still no sign of what his release form actually looks like. Wouldn't surprise me with a panter. We still need more pics to know what the hell is all going on.
gab00n
06-27-2007, 03:31 PM
What is Grimmjow saying? I see Ichigo in the bottom picture so that must be the first image we will see and it definitely looks as though Grimmjow is releasing, is one of the words Grind?
spacecat
06-27-2007, 03:34 PM
Yes the bottom pick says Kishire aka grind.
Oh, Grimmjow seems really to be releasing soon... I think those pics are real. At least it seems like the Sonic GJ -pic was fake. XD
I just hope that if Grimmy releases (as seems to be the case), that he won't die shortly after it. But still, I'm looking forward to see it. :o
Yeah I also saw Grimmjow saying 'Kishire' in that spoiler pic. So he releases... IF these pics are real, which I think they are.
darkdana666
06-27-2007, 03:46 PM
oops~ didn't run through the whole thread... so it is fake...
hmmmm.... too bad....
spacecat
06-27-2007, 03:51 PM
Well I don't think anyone has proved the release pic is fake it just seems it probably is.
archloxx
06-27-2007, 04:04 PM
the style of drawing is just like Kubo unfortunately... it seems that we will have to suffer the ugly shape of GJ... and i hope this image is fooling me and not allowing me to see the full image... i donno
i hope am wrong
and i believe that GJ not released is faraway beyond the released!! the attitude, the character and the body!!! i think this release has just missed all of that...
i would give a different sound tone for this released form, rather than the original sound of GJ
thnx :cool:
darkdana666
06-27-2007, 04:16 PM
*ahem* so~ if that is the "release"... no mask on the cheek? And it's not too bad.
If it is real, the only plus is that he doesn't get larger.
Gintoki
06-27-2007, 04:23 PM
Is the second set of pics approved, or are they also fake?
spacecat
06-27-2007, 04:27 PM
We dunno if any are fake, your guess is as good as mine xD
DeDaL
06-27-2007, 04:45 PM
Sarada here on MSN put my attention to the shadow on the leg of "released Grimmjow" pic. The shadow looks like nothing that could be cast by upper body... o_O
Well, DeDal, I thought that shadow looked weird as well. O_o So that pic has even more chances of being fake. And Kubo knows how to do that stuff. :)
spacecat
06-27-2007, 05:04 PM
Yeah i wondered about that shadow also, maybe it's just cos I think GJ (or used to think) is pretty cool and I wouldn't want to accept him looking so lame or having a lame zanpakutou name like panther king. I just sort of want it to be fake so I'll take anything I can find to explain it as fake lol
Lol Spacey DeDal said 'the released Grimmjow' pic. :) But I still believe the 'Kishire, Hyou Ou' pics are real. Assuming that they are, I think Panther King doesn't sound too bad, since I've been preparing myself for a possible panther-themed release lol. The most important things about his release are what he looks like and how he fights with it. ^__^
Gintoki
06-27-2007, 05:30 PM
Where's that Himajin when you need him. 1 week without a real post from him, and the weirdest spoilers appear. I just can't imagine Grimmjow with a Panther theme, that would be too expectable. And KT has always been the Surprise Ou'
spacecat
06-27-2007, 05:31 PM
lol Nama, i did mean the shadow on the knee, i think those pics were posted by the same guy on 2ch, based on conversation, that's all though since after midnight the ids change >_> so i was grouping it all together...Gah it can't look that lame lol I spose panther king isn't so bad. Better than baboon like Renji's imo lol
Saffire
06-27-2007, 05:36 PM
Simple question: Why would Grimmjow's soul cutter have a Japanese name?
OMG lol you said it, Saffire. o_O I didn't come to think of that, even if I knew that the Arrancars who released previously had their zanpakutou's name in Spanish or other language.
...so all of those pics could be fake (at least the first one should be). But we'll just have to wait and see. Ahh can't wait but must. :P
Gintoki
06-27-2007, 05:39 PM
Simple question: Why would Grimmjow's soul cutter have a Japanese name?
That's some nice hint Saffire. Haven't been thinking about, but what you say makes sense. We know that every Arrancars' Zanpakatou has a spanish name, even the Espadas. Now we can say for sure, that it's fake, unless Kubo messed up, what i really don't hope.
spacecat
06-27-2007, 05:42 PM
Hmm not to ruin anything since I can't read the kana next to the kanji cos it's so small, i know it translates as panther king but on 2ch they say the kana means pantera, which is spanish for panther >_<
yanniv
06-27-2007, 05:44 PM
It says Pantera in kana on the sides...
To me the kana looks so small that I couldn't even tell whether it was hiragana or katakana. >< Otherwise I would've been able to read it.
Nocturne
06-27-2007, 06:01 PM
Pantera, huh? So dorky, yet so Grimm. I'm probably in the minority who likes Grimm's release (it's it's real). As long as he doesn't have spots and at least ends up half naked in the end, I'll be happy. :D
chbimun
06-27-2007, 06:02 PM
I can't help but think that Grimmjow's released form (assuming it's legit) looks freakishly a lot like Ichigo's hollow form back in the Vaizard chapters.
SBJ220
06-27-2007, 06:21 PM
I am going to be so angry if these spoiler pics are real. Feel free to disagree with me if you want to, but I am getting fed up. Kubo is very quickly losing whatever respect I once had for him and this chapter would be the last nail in the coffin. Pantera Grimmjow?! Excuse me, but isn't Pantera an uber awesome metal band? Yes, yes, I believe it is. Jugulators was bad enough, but Pantera? I mean, I know the guy loves Led Zeppelin. What's the next release going to be called? "Climb, Stairway to Heaven"? "Sing, Immigrant Song"? Bagh. Sorry for the rant, but not only is the name bad, but GJ (one of the coolest character designs I've seen in years) now looks like Sonic the F***ing Hedgehog!
nightshift
06-27-2007, 06:29 PM
Actually, I'm thinking the next chapter will have a creative title, like "Bustle in your hedgerow" Totally nothing to do with Led Zeppelin
Which goes perfectly, because he does look like a hedgehog...who wants to bet that his released form lets him ball up and charge a dash attack?
SBJ220
06-27-2007, 06:33 PM
I will crawl into a ball and spin around crying if that's true, NightShift. GJ's gone from being uber cool to... "Hey, WTF is that thing? I think it just shat on my boots!"
spacecat
06-27-2007, 06:43 PM
Yeah SBJ >_> pantera, Da'Flash posted this earlier: GJJJの解放は豹王(パンチラ) I rushed through it before cos i wasn't taking it serious but it says: Grimmjow releases panther king (pantera). It matches the text in the pic also and if you look closely that kana matches. I put the full trans in the first post now that I'm semi taking it seriously.
Hmm lol...
I still hope the first pic isn't true, the shadow on his lower body is just way off. >:I And instead of a panther, he looks more like a hedgehog eh.
I shall be waiting for more spoilers then.
vaizado
06-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Ugh, people will NEVER be satisfied. Sometimes I feel like there are people who just go through each week's chapter to find something to complaing about. @@
I see one thing, and one thing only wrong with his release. And that is that his mask is not covering his face like all the Arrancars we've seen so far. Unless in that pic, it's still "forming" of w/e. But other than that, it doesnt look bad. Since when does having long hair degrade a character?
SBJ220
06-27-2007, 06:51 PM
So no plot development, a retarded panther costume, and a Pantera reference. Great. I'm loving this Kubo, really. Can you hear the love in my voice? No? Oh, well, there may be a reason for that.
EDIT: @vaizado: I understand what you're saying, man, but you have to admit that this is a little bit of a let down. No plot development and his costume is just... well, I'll be nice and call it weird.
So... is the first picture as reliable as the other ones?
It still hasn't been 100% confirmed, right? The first spoiler pic seems a little un-Kuboish to me.
vaizado
06-27-2007, 06:57 PM
I gotta admit the pic looks fake to me (claws and the thing in his back look like Shawlong's release, and no mask in his face), but he doesnt look bad. Even if it's fake, that is a nice looking fan pic.
spacecat
06-27-2007, 06:57 PM
Nah nothing is confirmed it's just that the spoiler pics (last 2) and the summary match. Let's hope if the first one is real then it's before he's fully released and that's like a halfway shot or something. @_@
SBJ220
06-27-2007, 07:00 PM
Well, vaizado is correct in noting that GJ has no mask. I just took a second look at the image and I'm calling it totally fake. It's just not Kubo's style and it just looks horrible. If this ends up being a legit image, then either I know nothing about Kubo's art or he seriously went outside the box with this one.
Woah, you're taking the releases so seriously. I mocked every release so far, I think I'll still do, even for my favourite Espadas (and I like GJ). Remember the octopus for Aaro? Yeah now that was bad.
Take it with a little humour dudes. Does an ugly release prevents you for liking a character? Or do you want absolutely what's the best for him/her, knowing that, it probably won't happen? I mean, out of all the Arrancars' release, I dare say it's the best, even if it reminds me of a weird mix between DBZ and Sonic.
SBJ, Saffire noticed that one of the Arrancars in the first wave of attack didn't have any mask once he released.
vaizado
06-27-2007, 07:04 PM
SBJ, Saffire noticed that one of the Arrancars in the first wave of attack didn't have any mask once he released.
Who was that? I remember all of them having a mask when they released.
tehworstguy
06-27-2007, 07:04 PM
How do you infer a lack of plot development from 3 panels? I'm rather inclined to think that this chapter is something that the plot has been building to for 80 chapters.
And given that some of the previous releases we've seen have involved baboon sovereigns and giant poison spitting caterpillar babies and pulsating blobs of flesh, I don't think this release is all that absurd. Grimmjow's personality has always mapped best to that of a hunting cat.
SBJ220
06-27-2007, 07:04 PM
@Syn: If that's true, then I feel nervous about my comment calling this image a fake. However, your comment about it being a mix of Sega and DBZ is exactly why I don't like the image. I like the unique aspect of Bleach and if GJ is going SSJ3, then I just don't like it.
@tehworstguy: I infer no plot development because the translator said the chapter was barely worth translating because it was just a showcase of this battle.
Nocturne
06-27-2007, 07:05 PM
Pantera Grimmjow?! Excuse me, but isn't Pantera an uber awesome metal band? Yes, yes, I believe it is. Jugulators was bad enough, but Pantera? I mean, I know the guy loves Led Zeppelin. What's the next release going to be called? "Climb, Stairway to Heaven"? "Sing, Immigrant Song"? Bagh. Sorry for the rant, but not only is the name bad, but GJ (one of the coolest character designs I've seen in years) now looks like Sonic the F***ing Hedgehog!
LOL, I was thinking about the band too when I read Pantera. Maybe Kubo decided to go with the long hair to give props to Pantera when they were a hair band in the 80's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Panterapowermetal.PNG
Look, the hair, the open jacket showing off the chest. XD
vaizado
06-27-2007, 07:07 PM
@Syn: If that's true, then I feel even worse about my comment calling this image a fake. However, your comment about it being a mix of Sega and DBZ is exactly why I don't like the image. I like the unique aspect of Bleach and if GJ is going SSJ3, then I just don't like it.
Bleach isnt exactly that unique, it's taken the DBZ road in the last several chapter. :(
And you gotta remember, Kubo is a big fan of Toriyama.
chbimun
06-27-2007, 07:08 PM
I see one thing, and one thing only wrong with his release. And that is that his mask is not covering his face like all the Arrancars we've seen so far.
It's been mentioned already that El Dorad didn't have his mask over his nose when he released, and I just checked and it's true. Chapter 203 last page. Rather than the boomerang on his nose, the mask comes around his face.
Looks similar to Grimmjow's in that it's now wrapping about his forehead.
Who was that? I remember all of them having a mask when they released.
It was Edorad, as pointed out by Saffire:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/Syneiam/th_manga-rainbleach-ch203-02.png (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/Syneiam/manga-rainbleach-ch203-02.png) VS http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/Syneiam/th_manga-rainbleach-ch203-19.png (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/Syneiam/manga-rainbleach-ch203-19.png)
Pre-release (his mask is under his eyes) vs post-release (it's not here anymore guys).
The shape changed, as it seems to be the case in the first pic for GJ. So we can't say it's fake because of this.
vaizado
06-27-2007, 07:14 PM
His mask is still there, it's just coming around the sides of his face.
And maybe Im blind, but I dont see any part of Grimm's mask anywhere on that pic.
yanniv
06-27-2007, 07:20 PM
It's on his forehead. Look closely.
vaizado
06-27-2007, 07:24 PM
Ah, it's so little!
I always imagined Grimm's release would make his mask cover his face. I mean, just imagine that jaw part he has right now covering his face, he'd even look like Ichigo. :P
As much as I like that pic, the fact that he's mask is super tiny makes me wish it's a fake pic.
darkdana666
06-27-2007, 08:06 PM
Hahahaha! Pantera!
First KT models Grimm by one of the members of Slipkont and now this! I can't stop grinning! X3
Ow~ come one people! That Grimm's release (fake or not) look ok. So the lower body part is kinda... O_o but the rest is ok!
I would totally pet it and take it home. I mean him! Him!
Riekie
06-27-2007, 08:14 PM
Hmm...reading ten pages of this has made me abit fed up people...it's just a spoiler whether it's fake or not, be happy about it. I actually find it funny that people are going into their way to make fakes..(I am not saying the first pci/release is a fake though) and post them.
I can't say I like seeing Grimmjow that way if it's real but then again..what are we gonna do about it huh, boycot Bleach because we don't like a release?! Come on!
So...the other pics seem very real to me...i am happily waiting for friday to read the chapter.
Tomodachi69
06-27-2007, 08:56 PM
/sigh
The last two pics, I'm fine with. Finally, we get to see GJ release.
The first pic, however... Really, WTF is up with that? We went from unreleased, badass GJ, what with his short spiky crazy hair, crazy expressions, and attitude, plus the torn short sleeved jacket that shows off his chest and scar
... to this mixture of Shaw Long, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Super Saiyan 3.
Personally, I'm not feeling GJ in that pic. I can't see him giving that smug "I'm better than you, F*** off" attitude while looking like that.
But ... enough of my ranting. I could even be wasting it on a fake pic. It does, however, look... not fake >< It does look very much like a cam shot, but until Friday, or until confirmation, who knows.
Primera Espada
06-27-2007, 09:25 PM
I would like to point out several things
A) that grimmjow pic is not so strange. First keep in mind he's SURROUNDED in energy. Shadows don't work the same when there's light all around you.
B) Shawlong had a similar releast, tight to his body, a tail, muscle lines defined, blades sticking out
C) the eye things becoming tips of his ears is *awesome*
D) look at his left arm. The forarm is going down, and then you see a large blade stick out from behind his legs. He has blades for fingers I bet.
E) Eduardo doesn't have a mask in release, he has guard plates that are attached to his shoulders, not his head. THe first image of him doesn't show this, but Kubo changed the style a bit the very next chapter. (anyways, as yanniv pointed out, grim seems to have a mask crest on his forhead. Every arrancar that has released (except for arroniero) has had their mask alter in some form)
F) Come on, Grimmjow looks like billy idol, his tsuba is based on slipknot, his release being pantera makes perfect sense.
G) They stated that espada releases are completely different than normal releases. This clearly shows it. While a Gillian release only covers HALF the body, this covers most of it, and changes things about the user as well (long hair, for instance)
H) Remember how much power differences releases have. They are somewhere between shikai and bankai (as demonstrated by Eduardo, who goes from being more or less on par with pre-shikai ikkaku to smashing through post-shikai in one hit, as well as the reference arroniero made to how drastically his release increased his power.) Imagine how strong Grimmjow must be now. Ichigos gonna get thrashed, and with grimmjow having *THIS* form, he's going to be able to thrash him in style, fast and furious, with lots of blood.
the only thing that I feel suggests that it might be fake is that a week ago, someone else said it was a panther release. Either they are very clever, have inside info, or they're the one that was working on drawing this.
There *was* that awesome ulquiorra pic awile back, perhaps this is the same artist with improved skills, but I doubt it.
Tomodachi69
06-27-2007, 09:45 PM
I would like to point out several things
A) that grimmjow pic is not so strange. First keep in mind he's SURROUNDED in energy. Shadows don't work the same when there's light all around you.
B) Shawlong had a similar releast, tight to his body, a tail, muscle lines defined, blades sticking out
Exactly. Kubo, something new, please.
C) the eye things becoming tips of his ears is *awesome*
D) look at his left arm. The forarm is going down, and then you see a large blade stick out from behind his legs. He has blades for fingers I bet.
Again. Something new, please, Kubo. Next thing we know, you'll be having GJ tell us that he's somehow related to ShawLong, what with their extremely similar releases.
...
H) Remember how much power differences releases have. They are somewhere between shikai and bankai (as demonstrated by Eduardo, who goes from being more or less on par with pre-shikai ikkaku to smashing through post-shikai in one hit, as well as the reference arroniero made to how drastically his release increased his power.) [b]Imagine how strong Grimmjow must be now. Ichigos gonna get thrashed, and with grimmjow having *THIS* form, he's going to be able to thrash him in style, fast and furious, with lots of blood.
the only thing that I feel suggests that it might be fake is that a week ago, someone else said it was a panther release. Either they are very clever, have inside info, or they're the one that was working on drawing this.
There *was* that awesome ulquiorra pic awile back, perhaps this is the same artist with improved skills, but I doubt it.
Yes, his release also means that he has a prerequisite power boost. But his release, imo, looks like crap. I think we all want something original. Not a similar scenario to "If ShawLong were the Sexta Espada..."
I wonder if GJ's stance will change. I can't see him standing up like that. He'd look too weird, IMO >< Being the proud character that he is, he NEEDS to be able to stand up, straight and tall. Not crouched like some feral cat. Yes, but assuming the position of a feral cat, in this case, a panther, we get a sense of ferocity from him. But we lose his sense of pride, IMO.
But, again, I'm probably ranting too much about just one spoiler pic.
Saffire
06-27-2007, 09:53 PM
I can't wait for Dark Schneider to cast Megadeth and pwn the city of Metallicana...wait, we're not reading Bastard? :p (For those that don't get it, the manga Bastard! borrows a LOT of heavy metal names for its spells, cities and characters.)
Kidding aside, now that I know it's actually called Pantera I'm not terribly surprised. Kubo is a well-known metal fan. It's been suggested that Bleach's title was borrowed from a Nirvana album. My only real criticism at this point is that it looks so much like Shawlong's...though I'm sure the fangirls are thinking, "Sexta Espada? More like Smexta Espada!"
This also is the first time we've seen the actual sword change shape. Usually the Arrancar is enveloped in smoke or something as soon as they call the release, but with Grimm we see his sword turn into a claw-thingy before the transformation.
This kinda makes me wonder if they're not going to go IchiByaku one-shot-ultimate-showdown-of-doom-style next. Ichi is under a pretty sharp time limit, and Grimm seems to want to beat Masked Ichi, not normal Ichi.
If that is the release, it better be last release of GJ and die already. Don't think I can stand him more with this appearance.
Primera Espada
06-27-2007, 10:12 PM
If you thought Grimmjow was a proud character.... I'm sorry, you just don't get his character o.O Don't confuse arrogance and selfishness for pride. Cirucci, she was a good example of someone with pride.
And something new... what, you expect them to not have hollow type releases at all? Let's review what we've seen so far. Every SINGLE arrancar release has some dominant animal trait (even those who are themed plant, like luppi, or element, like eduardo, still resemble a spider and gorilla respectively) We've also seen that ajuuca releases usually involve energy (Doldoni, Cirucci, Gantenbein) and so I'm sure there's more to this form than we expect.
Also, keep in mind, we've seen releases before of similar levels (those 3 described above) and so why should grimm's be so different?
I mean, I would expect a vastarode release to be something different, but Grimmjow's just an ajuuca, and he's in the bottom 5 espada at that.
Just cause Grimmjow is a fan favorite, it doesn't mean that as far as the story goes, he *should* be something different. He's an ajuuca, yes, so he should be somewhat different than the gillians. For all we know, he is. I've pointed out that he's the only one who's changed their own selves physically (the growth of hair) instead of just adding on armor and gaining new abilities.
How original do you want it? What would you rather have it be?
Shannon
06-27-2007, 10:20 PM
... After reading the comments, I've come to the fact that people are weird, putting fake spoilers all around and saying they're Himajin. o.O;
Mm, but Grimmjaw looks weird there. Those are blades around him, neh? Looks like Renji-type to me. But that's IMO.
Geta Boshi
06-27-2007, 10:54 PM
Hmm that’s interesting there is one more person who thinks the same . When this pic came out and was said most likely fake I spent a good 15 minutes in trying to find a Renji pic as this looked like Renji
How well check the jaw line and face cut its got Renji written all over it . As GJ is the Renji of the arc did KT reuse his designs too a deliberation ?
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8206/6ewm99xcm3.jpg http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2503/m7bleachch27211hi2.jpg
This chapter sucks majority even the unoriginal jaguar releases would have been better or cooler
EDIT :
Regarding the second set of pics I tried hard to find a similar pose to validate shop or not but I couldnt find any
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2606/4xxh55uuz1.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4xxh55uuz1.jpg)
yanniv
06-27-2007, 11:29 PM
From my experience with these kinds of photos, I would say the last two pictures that we receive are real pictures. The first one I would also agree, though I have my doubts in some areas of the picture. So I'm more iffy about the first one we receive, than the other two.
Geta Boshi
06-27-2007, 11:34 PM
Other two are authentic IMO I cant find similar pics . I always check for similar poses in older pics so I can validate shop or not . But I couldnt find a single pic of GJ in that pose .
speedphantom
06-28-2007, 12:45 AM
The top pic, if real, thats a damn good fake o_O. Someone would actually go to all that effort to draw a fake manga picture just to fool people?
I don't really mind what the release is, looks fine to me.
Geta Boshi
06-28-2007, 12:49 AM
Naah most likely not drawn I seen lot of shops never comes across drawn one though . If the fake spoiler poster had that good of art skills he/she/it would be busy making his own Dojin not posting/creating fake spoilers : )
EternalDream
06-28-2007, 01:56 AM
Sheesh, so many ppl unhappy with Grimm's (might be) release. O.o;
I for one, like it. A lot. The picture is a good picture, spoiler or fake. ...And I dont think it looks like Renji at all, but that's just me. **shrugs**
Geta Boshi
06-28-2007, 02:05 AM
Sheesh, so many ppl unhappy with Grimm's (might be) release. O.o;
Huh ?? .How is that any of my concern or botheration Did you just waste a post to tell me that o.O
EternalDream
06-28-2007, 02:25 AM
Huh ?? .How is that any of my concern or botheration Did you just waste a post to tell me that o.O
It was more of a random comment, not directed at anyone specifically (except maybe the people who have been complaining?)
The only thing really directed at you (though again it was more of a general statement than anything) was the last sentance about Renji...^^
Anyway, I think the Grimm picture is sexy, XD and I'm disappointed that so many people are complaining.
vaizado
06-28-2007, 02:36 AM
Haha, finally someone else (EternalDream) who shares my thoughts on this issue. XD
darkdana666
06-28-2007, 05:02 AM
Grimm is the smex! I'm fine with any kind of release as long as it doesn't overly enlarge him...
Besides, I don't understand why so many are being caught up in all that. It doesn’t matter what it looks like as long as it has cool abilities. Mind you, this comes from a flippin' crazy Grimmjow fangirl... X3
And perhaps it’s better for it to be something that will catch one’s eye. We have waited a hell of a long time to see him release.
Come to think of it… In the last few episodes of the anime Gin took over the end sketch. He said something about the arrancar returning to the “real” form when they release. So it could be quite bad. I will be content as long as KT doesn’t enlarge Grimm, make him furry (body, not head)… something like that…
Episode 131 filler arrancar release was better than this fake picture.
at first i thought... "nah people just think it's fake because they can't accept what they see" but now... i also think it's fake O_o.
I think it's the writing that's off. It seems too curvy while the rest is relatively flat. Also notice how the font is a bit too small and how it should be bigger and attract our attention more... but that second point is just aesthetics and so it can't prove much..
NeoSapien
06-28-2007, 07:13 AM
Another point towards the first picture being fake: it's supposed to be the last page of the chapter, yet the later, more likely-to-be-true pictures show Grimmjow releasing while still unbloodied and while Ichigo still has his mask on. It is unlikely that Ichigo could keep his mask on for the full chapter, or that Grimmjow could make it through the whole chapter uninjured against masked Ichigo. So the real pictures are probably from early in the chapter.
Still, I'm on the fence. Why would the true picture providers not show the real release?
darkdana666
06-28-2007, 07:14 AM
O_o why do people waste time and their talent making fake pics? I mean, that would be such a cool pic if it was of better qualty...
Another point towards the first picture being fake: it's supposed to be the last page of the chapter, yet the later, more likely-to-be-true pictures show Grimmjow releasing while still unbloodied and while Ichigo still has his mask on. It is unlikely that Ichigo could keep his mask on for the full chapter, or that Grimmjow could make it through the whole chapter uninjured against masked Ichigo. So the real pictures are probably from early in the chapter.
Still, I'm on the fence. Why would the true picture providers not show the real release?
Neo, look at the last pic, when GJ releases; you can see Ichigo with his mask on.
I don't know if it's the true deal or not, I think it's most likely is. The reason why we had the pic so early is most likely because the person knew that people were awaiting for GJ's release so he just wanted to show it up. That, or he wanted people to talk about it, until the chapter is out and the fake proven XD
It seems the first spoiler pic is real after all. :confused: My Japanese e-mail friend told that she was surprised to see a long-haired Grimmjow in his released state... she's already read the chapter, so...
Well, like I've said, it's not that bad after all. I want to see more of it and see what he can do in it so I could probably like it more. ^_^
spacecat
06-28-2007, 08:32 AM
Ok well since last time you said your friend said something it came true I'm gonna make it confirmed then @_@
ichiruki4eva
06-28-2007, 08:33 AM
Ok I'm pretty bored and this showed up on 2ch...opinions? lmao..real, fake, u be the judge...im just lmao I will add though, the white blob around the writing makes me think it's fake.
http://i13.tinypic.com/6ewm99x.jpg
omg!! Its Sonic the Hedgehog!!!
It looks in between fake and real,
if you ask me :confused:
spacecat
06-28-2007, 08:34 AM
Well from what Nama said it's the real deal, we must learn to love it lol
darkdana666
06-28-2007, 08:38 AM
I'm starting to like it so much that I'll be disappointed if it's not real... ^_^'
ichiruki4eva
06-28-2007, 09:40 AM
Well from what Nama said it's the real deal, we must learn to love it lol
lol, really?? well, I wasn't reading through the thread much but at least GJ doesn't look completely different, neh?? lol and yes, we will learn to love it!! (its actually pretty cool if you ask me :D)
Riekie
06-28-2007, 09:49 AM
wahh SSJ 3 The Gurimmjoh!XD
As said that it's real I think I kinda have to love it..he IS the gurimm ofcourse:D Hmm...I don't know about you guys but I think his transformation is maybe half way there...I don't think that's all of his release but who knows if it's not the last panel...
Gah...I wanna read the chapter already..and uhm Grimmjow you dissapoint me..almost certain death or other bad plotpoints for you here:(
Well from what Nama said it's the real deal, we must learn to love it lol
I can deal with it a few chapters until he dies, not sure if I want to keep seeing it.
Guildenstern
06-28-2007, 11:00 AM
Oh my god, yes. That is so freaking awesome I can't stand it. XD
It's like....Sonic the Hedgehog and the entire cast of "Cats" got married and had a baby..and then Billy Idol and the entire roster of the 80's hair-band "Poison" got married and had a kid and those two kids got married -themselves- and produced this: Epic Grimmjow epic release of epic-ness. I got off work, logged in, took one look at it and got like 10 different 1980's era rock ballads stuck in my head. I think I'm still humming "Young Guns".
...Am I sick for liking the way it looks? >_<; I guess it's Ichigo's turn for an Espada tag since Rukia already beat him to it. Legendary fight GO!
...I do hope Orihime buggers off soon to find poor Rukia, I'm getting a little worried about her. What if Gin picks her up first. o_o;
(Also NeoSapien if your handle is from what I think it's from then you are awesome. I loved that show.)
archloxx
06-28-2007, 11:08 AM
if he is going to be like this... i wish he dies in this chapter or the next ... he is truly ugly ... even the proportion of the face is not like grimmjow...
i wonder!! why would KT put the quarter mask on Grimmjow unreleased that has NOTHING to do with the released form???
isn't the released form the true face for the arrancar??? isn't the partial mask a hint for that true form???
GJ is just like an insect now... an insect with a sword!! yea nice...
i think Kubo has abused GJ ... he was the favorite espada for most of bleach fans
Ileenka
06-28-2007, 11:14 AM
Put all spoilers etc for Bleach 281 here. If you take translations from elsewhere please give credit. Myself or another mod will put everything in the first post.
From 2ch posted by spacecat:
http://i13.tinypic.com/6ewm99x.jpg
Guy who posted these below said "yes pantera" which would go with the spoiler below. Top pic says "hyou ou" (panther king), the bottom pic says "Kishire" (grind).
Seems pretty real to me, it's Grimmjow's jacket. I know it from three miles away. T_T Though, can't expect Espadas' releases to be good-looking so I'm not really complaining. At least, it's not like fat octopus Aaro. :)
Still, Grimmjow's hair grew all of a sudden upon release is just... *shudders*
Reminds me of some 80s rock metal band. Poison, I think was their name. http://www.scarpati.com/music_lax/images/poison_BC.jpg
What do you think? o__o;;
Guildenstern
06-28-2007, 11:22 AM
Ileenka
Reminds me of some 80s rock metal band. Poison, I think was their name. http://www.scarpati.com/music_lax/images/poison_BC.jpg
...We had the same thought. XD I nominate "I Want Action" as the official Poison song for 281.
Edit: Oh, or "No. 1 Bad Boy". \m/(>_<)\m/
spacecat
06-28-2007, 11:40 AM
lol yeah he just needs one of those little hats ahahaha meh yeah Aaroniro was worse, they are hollows afterall I spose.
Frosted Heart
06-28-2007, 01:50 PM
Well, no matter what happens I can never hate Grimmjow. Honestly, his release is not that bad! I think people are just disappointed because his release doesn't match their expectations, but in that case KT would never be able to please everyone since we all had differing expectations. I just hope his abilities are cool (another expectation lol).
Sigh, I hope this doesn't signal his imminent death. =/ Come on, Grimmjow, go against the grain (like you've always had lol) and stay alive! But if Ichigo doesn't kill him, Ulquiorra might. Or Aizen. Or Tousen. Argh. -_-
Nocturne
06-28-2007, 02:10 PM
Thanks for confirming, Nama! I seriously don't mind Grimm's wild child look. It fits his nature. BTW, regarding the long hair, I didn't realize it at first, but someone at MH had posted a pic of Ichigo as a hollow and he also had that long hedgehog hair when he fought the Vizards.
http://www.mangahelpers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=445992&postcount=57
And I want Grimmjow to live too!
Jasse
06-28-2007, 02:24 PM
Hi everyone,:)
Maybe Aizen can think of a way to make Grimmjaw stronger, cause out of all the Espadas so far, its no mistake that Grimmjaw wants Ichigo's head the most.
The next few chapters can turn out really good or really "bad", it all depends on how realistically Kubo executes the remaining threads.
I'm not too bothered about the spikey hedgehog look, the scan was too much like it was from a manga weekly book so I thought it would be really hard to replicate that.
I don't think Ichigo will kill Grimmjaw I think it's more likely to be Tousen. He's more conserned with people obeying the rules and so called justice. Tousen doesn't seem to be a cat person.
yanniv
06-28-2007, 03:08 PM
I think I'm more curious to know how Ichigo is going to do with a 11 second limit than Grimmjow's release.
Gintoki
06-28-2007, 03:20 PM
That match is decided. Ichigo will die of a heart attack, when hee sees that hair of Grimmjow. He won't even last 5 seconds.
Velius
06-28-2007, 04:08 PM
It's not that bad once you get used to it. It could have easily been a lot worse for sure. Am actually looking forward to seeing the rest of the chapter. Poison indeed. That's right on the target.
It would be interesting if Ichigo went full out hollow, like with the Vizards, and fought a released grimmjow. That's the only way I can see Ichigo winning this battle.
If that doesn't happen, then someone will have to interupt. My guess is Tousen, Gin, or Ulquiorra(if the poor guy manages to get out).
To me, doesn't it seem a little too early for Grimmjow to die? ..but since he decided to release, it's very possible. A character that shows all their power tends to die because there is no room for growth in that character.
But, for Grimm, being the rebel he is, might serve a better purpose in the arc than just an obstacle.
Yeah I'd also like if Ichigo went full hollow against Grimmjow. It'd be nice, but we'll see.
For some reason I think no one will interrupt, since this fight has gone on for sometime now, and Grimmjow already released. Somehow it'd be pointless to have Grimmjow release, then someone interrupt the fight...I think. Because we now got the released Grimmjow we had been awaiting for so long, I'm pretty sure we'll see the conclusion of this fight.
As for liking/disliking Grimmjow's looks in his released state, I'm really starting to like it after the short disappointment I felt at first. I'm pretty used to it already. Now I think it looks pretty cool. :) I guess I just can't dislike anything about him lol.
I want this fight not to get interrupted because I don't want to f-ing see a 4th fight between GJ and Ichigo. This is reason, I want either this arc to end, by GJ sending them back Earth or GJ to die.
I told my liking about appearance. He has to die so we don't need to see it again.
debbiechan
06-28-2007, 06:48 PM
Drag, drag, drag, draaaaag. A lame homage to Sonic and Goku and a plot that doesn't advance. I mean... just fighting. Maybe the art will be worth it. After the Grimm and Ulqui fight, though, I was hoping for something more. :(
Annie
06-28-2007, 07:00 PM
I read the full spoiler of this chapter from here (http://www.invisionplus.net/forums/index.php?mforum=deathberry&showtopic=1643&st=0&#entry37766) translated by Mask rider hollow and that is GJ's release T_T Here I summarised the chapter since there is nothing much going on.
Chapter 281: The Vulgarian Noise.
Ichigo turned into a Vaizard and Orihime saw it. She was scared (or shock) of Ichigo and before she could say anything Ichigo apologised to her for scaring her and asked her to believe in him, it'll be over soon.
GJ saw Ichigo turned Vaizard so he himself released (Grind, Pantera!). GJ hitted Ichigo over and over again. After that he taunted Ichigo (This is not all you got, get up!). Right after his taunt Ichigo appeared from behind and released Getsuga Tenshou but GJ managed to destroyed it within one hand. He laughed and said "Great! Kurosaki Ichigo!! Your eyes (the way Ichigo looks) That's what irritates me!"
Pretty much a just a fight and Ichigo reassured Orihime. Nothing much though, I guess we have to wait until the RAW come out because I really can't describe the fight scene, sorry.
And do not post it anywhere else. Thank you.
nooo they actually say that the 3rd one if for good ;).
My opinion about this chapter is that Ichigo finally mastered his Hollow transformation being able to keep his mask longer (else how could he stand again a released GJ? '^^), then before the 2 of them crash, the fight will interrupted by someone that we now who and then who knows about happen :).
spacecat
06-28-2007, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the summary Annie, since Grimmjow doesn't release at the END of the chapter but rather somewhere in the middle I am guessing that picture is at a half way point in his transformation...ok so hoping lol yeah i know everyone is like "get over it" but i can't :p
Zangetsu01
06-28-2007, 07:10 PM
Thanks Annie
So, Gestuga Tenshô destroyed with one hand by GrimmJow...
What you've got next Ichigo ?:confused:
oh my grimmjow actually releases at the start of the chapter ! now I can't wait to see it.
I don't see how Ichigo's gonna win when GJ just destroyed the vaizard GT with one hand, unless of course Ichigo puts all his energy into it like vs Kenpachi and manages a draw of sorts
Velius
06-28-2007, 07:15 PM
Yea, Ichigo is for sure behind. I don't think Grimm can win this fight, I think that's in the rules somewhere. So we just wait for the interference or Ichigo to bust out the power up and win. Either way, can't wait to see the pics for this one.
Thanks for the summary, Annie. Much appreciated. :) I can't wait to see more pics now.
I think Ichigo will win this battle... but how, we'll see after a few weeks or so.
Or then someone still might interrupt or Ichigo will lose, both of which I don't think will happen.
Gintoki
06-28-2007, 07:46 PM
Thanks Annie, so i guess not it's official :(
Well, life goes on -_-
Saint Jack
06-28-2007, 07:53 PM
Yes, thank you Annie for the sums. Sounds like a good chapter and Ichigo is pretty much destined to win this one eventually. The fight itself won't advance the story much, but that's not the point, this is the final ultimate battle between the the two most pent-up adversaries (well relatively at this point in time). From the summary it seems Ichigo is not giving into the beastility bloodlust that Grimmjaw wants him to much to his annoyance. Of course I like the IchiOri stuff too (more, more! :D) Wonder if Orihime is worreid about Ichigo losing himself.
gab00n
06-28-2007, 07:59 PM
Ichigo seems calm, normally he doesn't have time to stand around and talk. Hopefully we will see a flashback when Grimmjow is seconds from death. I think people will like GJ's released form once they get a more detailed image. I would like to see Ichigo fire an amplified cero from the edge of his sword, an amplified Hollow King Flash would be even better. There also has to be more to his bankai as recently it hasn't given him any advantage against the Espada.
Ileenka
06-28-2007, 08:02 PM
Thanks, Annie! ^_^ This chapter so GrimmIchi borderline yaoi, and I'm not complaining. ^_^ Orihime is always worried over the slightest things anyway. This chapter is boring, the only highlight is Grimmjow's hairdo.
Geta Boshi
06-28-2007, 08:06 PM
This chapter was all GJ next chapter will be most likely Ichi's Power Up . This power up has been long due and will be spectacular .
tehworstguy
06-28-2007, 08:12 PM
Vulgarian noise, huh?
I'm guessing we'll get a drawn rendition of this (http://www.galeon.com/allmusic/caratulas/p/Pantera_-_Vulgar_Display_Of_Power_-_front.jpg) somewhere in this chapter.
Jasse
06-28-2007, 08:16 PM
Thanks Annie for the summary.
Ichigo will defeat Grimmjaw, another two encounters with Uliq and Uliq will be defeated and then he will proceed to defeat Aizen.
It annoys me how Orihime will just stand there and watch the whole thing. Can't she go and try to help someone (Sado or Rukia)? This chapter seems boring, I wish the plot will just get on already. Bleach seems to have the problem a lot of shounen manga have, which is the drawn-out super-fights that take up weeks. >>
Saint Jack
06-28-2007, 08:32 PM
Orihime can't go anywhere for logical reasons, and this final confrontation is made by the author for her her to bear witness to.
Lol much to the chagrin of others, this chapter ain't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq_waSjjf3s&mode=related&search=
Annie
06-28-2007, 08:38 PM
I still don't see the point of why she has to stand here and witness the fight when she knows Rukia is dying. She has nothing to do with Ichigo and GJ rivalry.
Seriously, from what's happening in this chapter it should have been more than 11 seconds already. Ichigo talked to Orihime, GJ released and they fought. Ichigo can't lay a scracth on GJ -_- he better power up in the next chapter.
Orihime can't go anywhere for logical reasons, and this final confrontation is made by the author for her her to bear witness to.
Lol much to the chagrin of others, this chapter ain't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq_waSjjf3s&mode=related&search=
This seems to be a long-running condition for Orihime, though. She is that girl always stuck on the side. It really annoys me. Can you blame me?:rolleyes: I mean, I don't hate her or anything, but she by far is the character that most annoys me.
Orihime can't go anywhere for logical reasons, and this final confrontation is made by the author for her her to bear witness to.
Lol much to the chagrin of others, this chapter ain't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq_waSjjf3s&mode=related&search=
Logical reasons? Like being scared of Ichigo, losing her faith in him?
True, that may be the real reason why she's still here because it's the first time we see her react like this.
Thanks Annie, reps to you for giving us spoilers. I'm just waiting to see the chapter, since it's mostly fight.
Ileenka
06-28-2007, 08:41 PM
Orihime can't go anywhere for logical reasons, and this final confrontation is made by the author for her her to bear witness to.
Lol much to the chagrin of others, this chapter ain't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq_waSjjf3s&mode=related&search=
I'm very interested in your 'logical' reasons. o.o Please elaborate.
Geta Boshi
06-28-2007, 08:42 PM
There is no point in discussing that after all its Kurosaki Kun fighting the story begins and ends there .
There is no point in discussing that after all its Kurosaki Kun fighting the story begins and ends there .
For Orihime it certainly seems like it does. :cool:
Saint Jack
06-28-2007, 08:45 PM
@ all who responded: Its been mentioned numerous times before, but I'll repeat it again; she can't been running around HM with Nell in tow with no idea where everbody else is and what's the point of her getting recaptured. Then she'll be useless to anyone. Anyway its clear the author made of point of her to be there and Ichigo himself condones her to be there. LOL i gots swarmed :D
Nocturne
06-28-2007, 08:45 PM
From what we've witnessed with Orihime's power in the last few chapters, I don't think it would make a difference if she goes to Rukia or Chad now or next week as she seems to be able to restore them either way. Waiting a few more minutes isn't going to kill them, or if it does, hey she can restore them. Also, do people expect Orihime to be able to get to Chad and Rukia without bumping into 6 other Espada and/or their fraccion, not to mention either Aizen, Tousen or Gin on the way? Does she have a secret way to get there without being detected? She is a prisoner and isn't supposed to be roaming Las Noches freely.
Ileenka
06-28-2007, 08:46 PM
There is no point in discussing that after all its Kurosaki Kun fighting the story begins and ends there .
Ah. Well answered. No further elaboration needed. REPS! >:O
@ all who responded: Its been mentioned numerous times before, but I'll repeat it again; she can't been running around HM with Nell in tow with no idea where everbody else is and what's the point of her getting recaptured. Then she'll be useless to anyone. Anyway its clear the author made of point of her to be there and Ichigo himself condones her to be there. LOL i gots swarmed :D
Yes, because others certainly didn't do that I guess? Going with no idea where they were going, running into troubles etc =)
It's all a matter of priorities. No Arrancar (except for the two lolis and I guess they learned their lesson) would dare hurt her. It's not like it's that dangerous for her; she could also send one of her fairies to know where Chad and Rukia are. Fact is, she doesn't even think about it (she did it in SS to look out for Rukia in ch181). So please, don't say she can't do a thing because obviously, she can.
@ all who responded: Its been mentioned numerous times before, but I'll repeat it again; she can't been running around HM with Nell in tow with no idea where everbody else is and what's the point of her getting recaptured. Then she'll be useless to anyone. Anyway its clear the author made of point of her to be there and Ichigo himself condones her to be there. LOL i gots swarmed :D
She can easily find everyone else hypothetically. In chapter 180/181 she searches all over the Sereitei for Rukia with the Shun Shun Rikka. If her powers are supposed to be greater at this point, I don't see what the problem is here.
She can also heal from afar as shown in 199/200 with her fairies taking care of Chad while Orihime is at home, clearly in a different place.
But right now is she really helping anyone at all by just standing there and being a target for Grimmjow? :confused: :confused:
Saint Jack
06-28-2007, 08:58 PM
Yes, because others certainly didn't do that I guess? Going with no idea where they were going, running into troubles etc =)
It's all a matter of priorities. No Arrancar (except for the two lolis and I guess they learned their lesson) would dare hurt her. It's not like it's that dangerous for her; she could also send one of her fairies to know where Chad and Rukia are. Fact is, she doesn't even think about it (she did it in SS to look out for Rukia in ch181). So please, don't say she can't do a thing because obviously, she can.
Maybe she's just smarter than the average bear ;) Anyway I'm not talking about her getting hurt (I acutally believe she doesn't care what happens to herself) but its about being captured again.
And about the other response of remote healing she could have done that when she was locked up. And we don't know how HM hampers her locating abilities maybe senseing the the level of life forces but not the location.
Nocturne
06-28-2007, 09:03 PM
She's a prisoner and would be brought back to her room the moment she is spotted. She won't be hurt but she sure as hell won't be allowed to walk around unless Aizen said she's allowed to take a walk without supervision.
Did she really search for Rukia with Shun Shun Rikka back in SS? I don't recall that. As for Chad, she was already in the midst of healing him before she confronted Yammi. So having Chad be moved far from where she is later doesn't matter as the healing process was already begun prior to her separation from her fairies. We haven't really had a precedent yet where Orihime willingly searched out an injured person using the Shun Shun Rikka. All other ones, she had to be there near the person to initiate the healing.
She could still send her fairies (that was already a complain when Chad then Rukia got hurt; she didn't send them) at least to know where they are and how to get there quickly. Fact is, she's standing doing nothing while she could; and during that time, people are either fighting or dying for her.
Maybe she's just smarter than the average bear ;) Anyway I'm not talking about her getting hurt (I acutally believe she doesn't care what happens to herself) but its about being captured again.
And about the other response of remote healing she could have done that when she was locked up. And we don't know how HM hampers her locating abilities maybe senseing the the level of life forces but not the location.
And why should that matter when her friends are dying? I mean these are friends who risked their own lives to come to Hueco Mundo to rescue her. The least she can do is try for their sakes. How is doing nothing better than trying? Especially when the last thing Orihime wanted to do in the world was stand on the sidelines.
In 270 she was all about "Let me out! Let me out!" after she saw what Aaroniero did to Rukia. She was willing to go to Rukia and now she has the perfect opportunity to do so.
And Hueco Mundo doesn't hinder her abilities at all from all the evidence we've seen. All we know is that it's shaped like a maze, but so was the sereitei and she was able to use their abilities fine.
Saint Jack
06-28-2007, 09:09 PM
Wow Syn, just drop it already. The author has already condoned Orihime being there and it would be pointless in doing anything else until Ichigo finishes his battle. He's her best ticket in finding the others together and after the battle with Grimmjow he'll probably be wounded so she'll probably won't leave unless Ulq's minutes away from getting out and Ichigo tells her leave.
Jenni
06-28-2007, 09:12 PM
Hueco Mundo doesn’t hinder her at all.
The point isn’t whether she can revive someone who’s been dead for two years or not, the point is you don’t let your friends die slow, horribly painful deaths just because you can reverse it later. Why would you allow suffering if you can prevent it? She’s doing nothing at the moment, she can’t even protect herself. She’s getting in the way, and she’s a detriment to Ichigo, who has to essentially babysit her.
The difference between Orihime and the rest of this group is that they would have all taken that chance without issue. Last we saw Rukia she was crawling in the floor in her own blood to try to help Orihime. So far this arc, the only help Orihime has been to herself and to others was in situations where she didn’t have to go out of her way and take a chance. She never even contemplates it. And now she’s just standing there, and even has to be reminded by Ichigo to use her own powers to protect herself.
Seems to me, right now, the reason she’s there to witness this fight is to witness an aspect of Ichigo that apparently frightens her – to understand that there are parts of him that are dark. Her faith in him is wavering at best, and now all she’s managed to accomplish is making him feel he has to apologize for who he is. She’s nothing but a hindrance in a very high-pressure situation, and with the powers she possesses, she could be so much more beneficial elsewhere.
Lucia
06-28-2007, 09:15 PM
She's a prisoner and would be brought back to her room the moment she is spotted. She won't be hurt but she sure as hell won't be allowed to walk around unless Aizen said she's allowed to take a walk without supervision.
I have a feeling Aizen already knows Orihime is out of her 'cage' and GJ & Ichigo are fighting. Wasn't it mentioned previously that anything under the blue sky is seen by Aizen. GJ & Ichigo are fighting under the blue sky, right? So, my guess is that Aizen already have an inkling on what's happening.
Thank you so much for the summary & scans! :) ...GJ looks freaky, lol XD
Wow Syn, just drop it already. The author has already condoned Orihime being there and it would be pointless in doing anything else until Ichigo finishes his battle. He's her best ticket in finding the others together and after the battle with Grimmjow he'll probably be wounded so she'll probably won't leave unless Ulq's minutes away from getting out and Ichigo tells her leave.
Oh, geez. ANd here I thought we could talk about the characters. Sorry to be tired of Inoue. She didn't change at all since ch192, and I find this quite pathetic. Rather tired of her let's stay there, being protected, while the others are risking their lives for me. Geez, no wonder she's not the heroine of Bleach.
And yes, I'm ranting, I'm frustrated by her. It's not like I ever had high expectations, but I expected her to change (since she showed so much 'will' for this), but in the end, it's just her being worse and worse. Or maybe it's just Ichigo who has that effect on her, since both GJ and Ulq bring other sides from her.
Anyway, she's bound to stay in HM IMHO. It's been two days, do you really think Aizen will let her go?
Nocturne
06-28-2007, 09:20 PM
She could still send her fairies (that was already a complain when Chad then Rukia got hurt; she didn't send them) at least to know where they are and how to get there quickly. Fact is, she's standing doing nothing while she could; and during that time, people are either fighting or dying for her.
What are the chances that the fairies will be able to reach Chad and Rukia without being detected themselves? Orihime may not be harmed, but her fairies may unless Aizen said, please don't harm the girl or her fairies. But that's all assumption on our parts. And would Ichigo be alright with Orihime just going off on her own? Add that to his worries? I'm surprised he hasn't suggested for Orihime to take off and find their friends and heal them. I would think his number one concern is for his friends welfare, but instead he chose to stick around and fight.
And why are people putting Orihime down? It's not as if she doesn't know what her friends are doing for her. She didn't ask them to save her, she went to HM to save them. The fact that it was she who ends up having to already save Ichigo is quite a role reversal. Chad and Rukia will be saved and healed in due time. Kubo wanted to put the focus on Ichigo's fight with Grimm first, then he can send both Ichigo and Orihime off to find their friends. 'Sides, it's wiser to stick together now, same goes for Ishida and Renji. High time Kubo consolidates the team.
LOL, okay, I better move on from this as people will never agree. Just looking forward to the raws now.
Seriously Nocturne, you think Aizen doesn't know that Inoue is out? LOL, just LOL. Oh, please. Aizen is watching closely what's happening there. It's not a matter of being detected, it's a matter of will to help the others rather than doing nothing here. She's as useful as a plant there.
People are tired of Inoue standing there, looking prettily dumb/shocked whatever and never help despite the fact that she says so much that she wants to stand up in a fight.
Urahara told her to not try, she didn't want to and got captured. But in the end, she still doesn't fight. The lack of will is gratting on my nerves.
Wow, your the only one taking pot-shots here. I'm just making light of a situation which is totally unreasonably for her to do.
No, you're the one taking pot-shots here by rudely telling people "drop it" and dismissing people's claims with nasty not-applicable one-liners. This is a discussion, we're allowed to discuss Orihime's flaws. Nobody was being rude till your hostile attitude against Syn and myself.
Now, if you don't want to participate in the discussion, you don't have to, but please don't tell us to "drop it."
I'll talk about the fight when I'll see the pics. Because all I can say about the fact right now is: Ichigo is being pwned by GJ and needs to power up.
You can't take what I say about Inoue? But it's the truth, it's not random bashing. Rukia has been bashed far worse when she's way greater than Inoue, so please your crocodile tears don't work on me.
Geta Boshi
06-28-2007, 09:29 PM
I really don’t see reason or logic I just see excuses . It may be my opinion but it still is the majority opinion
Was it the same Inoue who was trying to break the door to get to Rukia is Chapter 270 who 7/8 chapter later has not even spared a thought towards Rukia . Forget about going to save she has not even tried
And this isn’t the thread I suggest make a separate thread to discuss this or let it rest
Wow, your the one being quite sensitive. I don't know how you can construe "Drop-it" as a personal insult, when YOU blatently called me something. I'm not being hotile in the least.
You're the one who thinks this is an Orihime "bash fest" just because you can't accept people's justified criticism of her, I would call that extreme sensitivity. I only called you something else after you unfairly told Syn to "drop it" in a public discussion and when you dismissed my argument with a stupid reply.
Again, if you don't like this discussion, you're free to leave but don't tell us to stop discussing the topic in such a rude way. You'll only provoke people as you've blatantly done.
Saint Jack
06-28-2007, 09:34 PM
I'll talk about the fight when I'll see the pics. Because all I can say about the fact right now is: Ichigo is being pwned by GJ and needs to power up.
You can't take what I say about Inoue? But it's the truth, it's not random bashing. Rukia has been bashed far worse when she's way greater than Inoue, so please your crocodile tears don't work on me.
Yeah I'd rather talk about the fight, not some petty squabbles. I'm gonna "drop-it" here to avoid further escalation. But its obvious people have different "perspectives" of Orihime and I don't see how Rukia enters the equation here. Peace everybody.
Kristen
06-28-2007, 09:37 PM
AHHHHH. This thread bring back fond memories. Any ways, thank you for the summary and pictures. I'm looking forward.. to the... Grimm/Ichigo fight. Seeing that's the only thing that matters... right now, you know.~
Annie
06-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Eh...I've seen worse with Rukia in ch 267 and ch 268. Here Orihime just stood there and Ichigo had to ask her to use the shield to protect herself and Nell once he's off fighting. I'm not surprise people started to get annoyed by her behaviour, gotta blame it on Kubo though. He makes her this way.
I really can't say anything about this chapter because apart from GJ's release there is nothing left. Ichigo fired Getsuga Tenshou and GJ destroyed it, that's all we have.
Frosted Heart
06-28-2007, 09:49 PM
Chill out people, let's not detract the thread any further. If you want to discuss Inoue's actions, please start another thread or take it to PMs/IMs/emails.
- FH
Hueco Mundo doesn’t hinder her at all.
The point isn’t whether she can revive someone who’s been dead for two years or not, the point is you don’t let your friends die slow, horribly painful deaths just because you can reverse it later. Why would you allow suffering if you can prevent it? She’s doing nothing at the moment, she can’t even protect herself. She’s getting in the way, and she’s a detriment to Ichigo, who has to essentially babysit her.
The difference between Orihime and the rest of this group is that they would have all taken that chance without issue. Last we saw Rukia she was crawling in the floor in her own blood to try to help Orihime. So far this arc, the only help Orihime has been to herself and to others was in situations where she didn’t have to go out of her way and take a chance. She never even contemplates it. And now she’s just standing there, and even has to be reminded by Ichigo to use her own powers to protect herself.
Seems to me, right now, the reason she’s there to witness this fight is to witness an aspect of Ichigo that apparently frightens her – to understand that there are parts of him that are dark. Her faith in him is wavering at best, and now all she’s managed to accomplish is making him feel he has to apologize for who he is. She’s nothing but a hindrance in a very high-pressure situation, and with the powers she possesses, she could be so much more beneficial elsewhere.
Wow, that was really well said! I agree totally. She always laments about not being able to protect people, but in the end she doesn't even try. It's like a person wanting to lose weight, but then sits on the couch all day. I think criticism of Orihime is completely justified (as long as there's a legitimate reason).
yanniv
06-28-2007, 09:54 PM
I really can't say anything about this chapter because apart from GJ's release there is nothing left. Ichigo fired Getsuga Tenshou and GJ destroyed it, that's all we have.
Yeah, stopping a GT in Vizard form with just one hand makes Ichigo look like he is done for. I knew Kubo would leave us like this. I knew he would make Grimmjow's release be absolutely powerful and force us to believe Grimmjow has the match. Now it makes us hope Ichigo has something in his arsenal or else...
Gintoki
06-28-2007, 09:58 PM
So this chapter featured only GJ's defense capabilites as far as i read. Let's see how Ichigo will deal with GJ's Attacks when he starts them. But if even Getsuga Tenshou, ichis strongest move didn't even have a chance to put a scratch on him, i doubt this battle will be balanced more longer.
So let's see what next week brings.
Rukia has been bashed far worse when she's way greater than Inoue, so please your crocodile tears don't work on me.
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Opinions, opinions... both girls are bashed equally. She's far greater than Inoue? True Rukia emotionally strong, and she wants nothing more than to protect those close to her... but Orihime feels the same way. The difference is that Rukia has about 150 years of experience and maturity, while Orihime isn't even an adult yet, the poor girl is 15.
She will tend to cry, (what young girl doesn't?) and she may be (completely XD) naive at times. Orihime hasn't even upgraded her powers one yet. That's why she has so much potential. Imagine Orhime using all her fairys at once in an attack.. I'm just throwing out ideas, but yes, there's a reason Aizen said her powers could breach the horizon of gods.
Rukia's is 'way greater' than Orihime? Rukia has a wonderful character on her, her personality, her resolve... everything. But so does Orihime, her character is about over coming obstacles, and growing. I see them both as wonderful characters. They're equal.
Bashing characters is completely ridiculous. v_v
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...anyway about the chapter Grimm looks badass. I love it. I want to see Ichigo keep his mask out longer though, either that or he's dead. I don't really want to see this battle get interupted, Grimmjow and Ichigo should just fight and get it over with.
I'd get kind of frusturated if they got interupted actually. (stay sealed just for a little while, Uqui!)
I think I would laugh though if Tousen came out of no where and hacked Grimmjow's arm off, spouting something about justice. XD
Gintoki
06-28-2007, 10:01 PM
A third interrupt would really be the last thing we want to see. But where's then the sense in showing GJ's release. But if it's so, then Ichi must get pretty hard owned, to show the difference between them.
But i hope, that this is the final fight, though i hope neither of them dies, cause i like both chars. I wouldn' mind if they double-KO themselves.
You got your quote wrong, Geta, it's not from me =)
Geta Boshi
06-28-2007, 10:10 PM
You got your quote wrong, Geta, it's not from me =)
Multiple quotes get the better of me : (
hdx514
06-28-2007, 10:12 PM
Yeah, stopping a GT in Vizard form with just one hand makes Ichigo look like he is done for. I knew Kubo would leave us like this. I knew he would make Grimmjow's release be absolutely powerful and force us to believe Grimmjow has the match. Now it makes us hope Ichigo has something in his arsenal or else...
judging from all previous fights with arrancars, i don't see any reason to believe that their releases offers them a significant power boost of any kind. in fact, arrancars who already had a clear advantage in unreleased mode almost always end up getting pwned in released mode.
also, knowing the fate of ALL released arrancars, the only thing kubo has done is force us to believe that grimmjow's done for once he releases.
yanniv
06-28-2007, 10:15 PM
judging from all previous fights with arrancars, i don't see any reason to believe that their releases offers them a significant power boost of any kind. in fact, arrancars who already had a clear advantage in unreleased mode almost always end up getting pwned in released mode.
also, knowing the fate of ALL released arrancars, the only thing kubo has done is force us to believe that grimmjow's done for once he releases.
The way it sounds from Annie's spoiler, it sounds as though Grimmjow just gained a huge leap over Ichigo in terms of power. And Ichigo is faced with an 11 second limit (at the moment). I see Ichigo in trouble more than I do Grimmjow, even though my bet is still on Ichigo winning. But it still does leave me speculating on what the hell will Kubo bring to the table in regards to Ichigo's "power up."
Annie
06-28-2007, 10:24 PM
So this chapter featured only GJ's defense capabilites as far as i read. Let's see how Ichigo will deal with GJ's Attacks when he starts them. But if even Getsuga Tenshou, ichis strongest move didn't even have a chance to put a scratch on him, i doubt this battle will be balanced more longer.
So let's see what next week brings.
GJ did attacked Ichigo in this chapter, he had upper hand at this fight from the start. He's much faster and stronger (he's a panther after all -__-) I didn't post the whole fight scene because it's too complicate for me. But let say Ichigo is getting own right now.
I wouldn' mind if they double-KO themselves.
Now that you mention it, I would like that to happen too. It reminds me of Ichigo and Kenpachi's fight.
As someone stated elsewhere, I don't see Ichigo wasting his leftover 11 seconds on Orihime, which by means, he might already be more than that.
eurys
06-29-2007, 02:29 AM
Thank you Annie! As soon as I can, I will rep you :p
So, we have an "interesting" GJ's realease form (funny how some people are in denial*), Ichigo still doing a comforting job yet getting pwned after, Orihime being a typical damsel-in-distress and...well, that's all.
I hope GJ's new form will make sense and that his way of fighting will change accordingly to this new form...oh, who am I kidding -_-
It will still be *hack* *slash* *cero spam*.
*please Kubo don't make Ulq's release ridiculous...please please please :(
Poor Ichigo. He has his strongest attack laughed at twice within an hour. Grimmjow being able to just shrug off the attack makes it obvious that there is a huge power difference between released Grimmjow and Vizard Ichigo. The timer on his mask doesn't really matter right now. Even if he had infinite time with it, it doesn't sound like he would be able to injure Grimmjow.
So, for Ichigo to win this either the mask's power itself has to be increased or he's going to need some other power up. My bet is on him unlocking more of his hollow's power. With that increased power would come a longer timer with the mask, of course.
Either way, I hope this is the last fight between the two (No interruptions, please). I really really don't want to see a fourth fight.
As for Grimmjow's release... well, it's a step up from whatever the hell Aaroniero turned into. ;) I have a feeling we will be seeing the last of Grimmjow soon. I don't really want to see him die but it's better than seeing him have some redemption moment.
AnimeGirlPan
06-29-2007, 04:19 AM
thanks for posting this and i agree about ichigo..poor dude..i just grimmjow whould stop making fun of his power and attacks like that..he is a powerful death god and he just dont really think so or something but i just hope Ichigo can kick butt though
spacecat
06-29-2007, 10:45 AM
http://i10.tinypic.com/537rrrb.jpg
Shannon
06-29-2007, 10:48 AM
http://i10.tinypic.com/537rrrb.jpg
Wow. Is that supposed to be Grimmjaw? Looks to me like it's a nicely decorated wetsuit, imo. Didn't expect Grimmjaw to look like that. Poor him. o.O
"... Grimmjaw, is that you?!"
Ichigo might as well die of laughter.
juunana
06-29-2007, 10:51 AM
Rofl Mr Tumnus is that you? Wow I really could never have imagined Grimmjow's release to look like that...don't know what I think really =/.
Thanks Space ^^.
Ileenka
06-29-2007, 11:00 AM
http://i10.tinypic.com/537rrrb.jpg
Thank you again. ♥
So, T_____T it is horrible, I just, have no words for this. If this is KT's idea of 'cool', then.. oh well. At least it's not a fat octopus like Aaro.
LOLOLOL. It's PAN (http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/Pan.html), I tell you, PAN! XD
He's not an Espada, he's a Satyr! XD
Thank you space, reps for you ^^
Annie
06-29-2007, 11:04 AM
OMG I knew that they said his feet were weird but this... And Syn, he is so not PAN T-T
Yami better be a walrus or something, I'll never forgive Kubo if Yami somehow manage to look better than this
I make peace with his release, now I can't wait to see his strength and the fight scene. Thank you so much, Space ^^
spacecat
06-29-2007, 11:08 AM
lol well now i know why they stopped him from releasing all the time. I think he even lost his abba dabba's. :p
Yeah no wonder, they didn't want to see that XD
Maybe he plays flute? XD XD XD
DeDaL
06-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Okay, now we got a faunus in the story... First there was Heracles(Jidanbou, remember?) now a faunus...
MEH!
NVZBlity
06-29-2007, 11:27 AM
oh lordy.
I was really trying to love his look at least from the double page spread, but that looks just comical.
Spike
06-29-2007, 11:27 AM
I actually liked Aarron's release better.
I'd rather have a big fat blob than a stupid panther/diver thing.
Riekie
06-29-2007, 11:35 AM
Poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor Grimmjow...*....* sad li'l Espada..I feel bad for 'em that he needs to look like that.
*Sigh* I guess we have to do with this then...
Poor Grimmjow...no longer the badguy...now you're just a sad li'l mutant puppy to me!
... ... ...Oh my god. T_T
I have to say he looks worse than I thought he would. He looks much skinnier in his released form compared to his more humanoid form. He's like a combination of a cat and a hedgehog in some kind of a jumpsuit...I feel sorry for him. The name Grimmjow as in 'grim jaw' seems to have nothing to do with his released state.
But maybe, just maybe, I'll get used to this. I had hopes of him looking rather cool when I get to see more pics, but... but... :o
Damn, but I still can't stop loving/liking him. :p I'll try to get used to this form of his.
dbssdb
06-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Hi! Founded 3 more pages in HQ ^^
http://i12.tinypic.com/54aiccp.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/6763bwj.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/4tkriwp.jpg
Things look so bad for Ichigo...
samnas
06-29-2007, 01:10 PM
Thanks dbssdb for the pics ...
The pics are awesome and ichigo really looks in trouble ...
shivath
06-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Can't we just pretend his release doesn't look like that? Paste a fanart picture over it or something.
Thanks Spacecat <3
Lol I don't even know what to say about Grimm's release. XD If I were Ichigo, I think i'd be cracking up.
Hi! Founded 3 more pages in HQ ^^
http://i12.tinypic.com/54aiccp.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/6763bwj.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/4tkriwp.jpg
Things look so bad for Ichigo...
Poor Ichigo... that's got to be an ego stabber. If someone doesn't interupt, it's all over for Ichigo. ...Come on Tousen, injustice is happening!
Maybe Ichigo will gain an new ability... or end up going full out Hollow to fight on equal grounds with Grimm. Thanks, dbssdb.
spacecat
06-29-2007, 01:16 PM
Thanks dbssdb, yeah things look pretty bad for Ichi @_@
Ileenka
06-29-2007, 01:19 PM
Thanks for the pics.
... I was getting over the release. I was! I'm in love with Grimmjow all over again. Really! That was the coolest release I've ever seen since the Genesis of Bleach.
spacecat
06-29-2007, 01:35 PM
Hmm ichigo is saying "nanda on'atsu" which i'm pretty sure means "What...? Sound pressure!? or "acoustic/noise pressure". It might have something to do with the title? Not sure though.
Thanks for the HQ pictures, dbssdb, appreciated. ^^ Ichigo sure seems to be in trouble...
In the first page that dbssdb posted, Grimm looks okay. But in the second one... XD Poor guy. *sniff*
I swear, he doesn't look THAT bad. I'm gradually starting to like the way he looks released. ^_^
Looking forward to see more pics, etc.
Nocturne
06-29-2007, 02:01 PM
Oooh, thanks spacecat and dbssdb for the pics!!! Oy I'm going to be in the minority but Grimmjow looks so feral it's awesome! I also love that he has paws for feet! He looks so sleek, it fits him perfectly! *fangirls*
Thanks dbssdb ^^; off to make an icon right now XD the pic is just too much XD
Ichigo is in a bad situation. I wonder how he'll pull that off (or maybe he won't). Interesting, space; so GJ uses the sound to attack too?
spacecat
06-29-2007, 02:09 PM
Thanks dbssdb ^^; off to make an icon right now XD the pic is just too much XD
Ichigo is in a bad situation. I wonder how he'll pull that off (or maybe he won't). Interesting, space; so GJ uses the sound to attack too?
Hmm yeah I guess something like that? Well it's definitely what it says this time, thanks to dbssdb's ultra clear pics there is no mistaking the kanji.
Maybe it's GJ's roaring like a panther