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spacecat
06-20-2007, 09:29 AM
Post all spoilers, translations or raws/scanlations for chapter 280 in this thread. Myself or another mod will add anything (confirmed) found to this post.

If you got the translation from somewhere else please give credit to whoever did it.

Posted by Mori The Raw:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hjvyuq
http://rapidshare.com/files/38780857...0_raw.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/38780857/Bleach_280_raw.zip.html)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O17QBOPM

(thats actual raw, not jojo)

Translation from the Jojohot Scans thanks to Ileenka:


Page 3

Grimmjow: What kind of face is that?
Grimmjow: Seems like you don't have the slightest intention to kill me. Totally useless.
Ichigo: What did you say?


Page 6
Grimmjow: Let me ask you, Kurosaki. Why did you come to Hueco Mundo?
Ichigo: Do you need me to tell you? Of course I'm here to save Inoue.
Grimmjow: HA! Then why is it that when you met that woman, you totally didn't show any intention of taking her away from here?


Grimmjow: Because she looks unharmed, so you don't feel worried, is that it?!
Grimmjow: You completely don't know what is happening 'inside' of her.

*Note: 'inside' is emphasized

Ichigo: What have you guys..done to Inoue?!



Page7
Grimmjow: This is a good reaction.
Grimmjow: Kurosaki!!!
Ichigo: Wha..
Grimmjow: You say you come here to save that woman, right...?
Grimmjow: By the looks of it, you seem like you don't understand so I'm going to tell you.
Grimmjow: Wrong answer, you are here because you want to fight.
Grimmjow: It is because you can see clearly your real path!
Grimmjow: You are a shinigami, I am a hollow!! The one who lost will die! This is a truth that has been established for a thousand years!


Page 8
Grimmjow: Other than that, do you really need another reason to fight?!
Grimmjow: Come on!!!
Grimmjow: The last person who stands will survive and return. It's that simple!!!


Page 13
Grimmjow: Your expression has changed significantly well...Kurosaki.
Grimmjow: Except that...


Page 14
Grimmjow: ..it's not enough.
Grimmjow: The 'you' I want to fight with, is not like this.
Grimmjow: Eat this, this is...



Page 15
Grimmjow: The strongest cero that only the Espadas are able to use!!
Ichigo: Wait, Grimmjow!!!


Page 16+17
Grimmjow: The King Hollow's Cero!!!!


Page 18
Grimmjow: So you finally appear.


jojohot scanlation:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OFMJ05EN

http://www.sendspace.com/file/u7ewde

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Confirmed spoiler found by Mori, translated by spacecat.

「BLEACH280.Jugulators2」


今ギモンに思ったのですが
I always thought that
破面は斬魄刀を解放すると
when a hollow releases his zanpakutou
形態が変わるはずだよね
he’s meant to change form yeah?
ふつうに刀を抜いただけでは変化しないんだね
It doesn’t change shape by just being unsheathed.
グリムに殺意が無い一護
Ichigo just doesn’t have the killer instinct according to Grimmjow
グリムは一護の心の中を語る
Grimmjow talks about how he reckons Ichigo is thinking
何のために虚圏にきたのか?
Why did you come to Hueco Mundo?
織姫を助けにきただけではなく
You did not come just to save Orihime
戦いに来たのだと
You came to fight.
グリムは虚化一護と戦いたいらしく
Grimm really wants to fight Ichigo in Vaizard form
一護をあおる
It’s starting to get to Ichigo
斬魄刀で自分の指を傷つけ
He's cut his finger with his zanpakutou
十刃だけに許された最強の虚閃を!
now then he will use the strongest cero, only permitted to be used by the Espada.
それは
And so
織姫を狙う
he aims at Inoue
「王虚の閃光!(グラン・レイ・セロ)」
Grand cero!( guran ray sero)
それを虚化してかわす一護
Ichigo has pulled down his mask and deflects it
喜ぶグリム
Grimmjow is extatic


Confirmed spoiler posted by Da'Flash with a summary trans by spacecat:


Ok in that case I'll do a quick run down. It makes a lot more sense than Himajin's and speaks in normal terms that are easier for me to understand.

Grimmjow questions Ichigo's motives for coming to Hueco Mundo, he thinks if he were simply there to save Inoue he would have grabbed her and tried to run away. He prompts Ichigo to use his mask. Ichigo argues with him over it.

Grimmjow then says if it's the case he will destroy his companions and i guess aims at Inoue who has come up behind Ichigo. He fires his grand cero or whatever we wanna call it (see my previous post) so Ichigo pulls down the mask and stops it from hurting her.

Grimmjow is happy that Ichigo is finally getting the idea.



Posted by Da'Flash

ブリーチ

GJ「何だそのツラは どうやら本当に殺意は無いらしいな 情けねえ奴だ」
苺「・・・何だと?」

斬り合い

GJ「黒崎 てめえは何のためにここに来た?」
苺「そんなもん決まってんだろ・・・! 井上助けるためだ!」
GJ「だったら何であいつを見た瞬間に連れて逃げる素振りを見せない!?
   違うぜ てめえはここへ戦いに来たんだ てめえには本能の示す道筋が見えてんだ!
   てめえは死神!俺は虚!負けた側は皆殺し!戦う理由が他にあるか!? 来いよ!
   最後まで立ってた方が生きて戻れる それだけのことだ!」

斬り合い

GJ「いい顔になってきたぜ だが・・・まだだ 俺が本当に戦いたいのはそのてめえじゃねえ
   喰らえ これが十刃だけに許された最強のセロだ!」

苺、後ろに井上がいることに気付く

グラン・レイ・セロ
王虚の閃光!!!

苺虚化なうえ無傷 井上も

GJ「・・・ようやく出やがったか」



Mini spoiler from 2ch and translation (confusing)


Well this is what I got, sorry for any mistakes. I presumed breast/chest/tits meant Inoue but there was no way I could fit her in that sentence and have it make sense. I got a second opinion from my friend Ash and she thinks this is on the right track. Sorry if I made a mistake and get everyone excited for no reason haha.



Bleach
グッジョブと苺の戦いまるまる一週
Ichigo and Grimmjow are going all out, fighting in circles.
最後辺りでグッジョブが最強の虚閃 
At the last moment grimmjow uses his strongest cero
王虚の閃光でおっぱいごといちごを殺すつもりで発動
King hollow (trans note: Ichigo’s hollow?) sends a great light/flash from his chest planning to kill Ichigo with it.
最後は苺があの仮面状態になって終わり
It finishes as Ichigo’s vaizard/hollow mask time is coming to an end.


From himajin, posted by Mori:


グッジョブと苺の戦いまるまる一週
最後辺りでグッジョブが最強の虚閃 王虚の閃光でおっぱいごといちごを殺すつもりで発動

最後は苺があの仮面状態になって終わり

yanniv
06-20-2007, 09:52 AM


ザエルアポロが着替え終了して解放
擂り潰せ(すりつぶせ) 廻鉄怪(レヴナンツ)

グリムジョーも解放
軋れ 百鬼牙(メドローマ)

あと最後に虚圏に誰か来た

Everyone is talking about that currently, though no word if it's Himajin or not.

Da'Flash
06-20-2007, 09:54 AM
It propbably not the real cause since that one was posted, Himajin was writing the Tolove spoiler (in the same time huh?)...

Wait & see if he confirms.

yanniv
06-20-2007, 09:57 AM
Well, according to the spoiler, Szayel and Grimm both release with someone coming through the garganta at the end (rescuer?).

That's a lot for a bleach chapter.

spacecat
06-20-2007, 10:24 AM
It wasn't himajin so I'm not adding it to the first post.

yanniv
06-20-2007, 10:34 AM
another fake.


グリムジョーさんが解放
軋れ 咬牙暴獣(ヘルドーザー)
まだ戦いは終わりそうにありません

spacecat
06-20-2007, 10:43 AM
Nope there are 3 fake himajins atm Yanniv. None of those are confirmed.

yanniv
06-20-2007, 10:46 AM
Yeah, I was talking to mori about that. Forgot to change the post. >.<

lupe
06-20-2007, 11:24 AM
it seems that the spoilers will go out tomorrow, like the chapter 279..... where is himajin???

bye

mori
06-20-2007, 12:45 PM

グッジョブと苺の戦いまるまる一週
最後辺りでグッジョブが最強の虚閃 王虚の閃光でおっぱいごといちごを殺すつもりで発動

最後は苺があの仮面状態になって終わり

real

Gintoki
06-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Sounds interesting, can't await till the raw comes out.

spacecat
06-20-2007, 03:42 PM
Well this is what I got, sorry for any mistakes. I presumed breast/chest/tits meant Inoue but there was no way I could fit her in that sentence and have it make sense. I got a second opinion from my friend Ash and she thinks this is on the right track. Sorry if I made a mistake and get everyone excited for no reason haha.


Bleach
グッジョブと苺の戦いまるまる一週
Ichigo and Grimmjow are going all out, fighting in circles.
最後辺りでグッジョブが最強の虚閃 
At the last moment grimmjow uses his strongest cero
王虚の閃光でおっぱいごといちごを殺すつもりで発動
King hollow (trans note: Ichigo’s hollow?) sends a great light/flash from his chest planning to kill Ichigo with it.
最後は苺があの仮面状態になって終わり
It finishes as Ichigo’s vaizard/hollow mask time is coming to an end.

Nama
06-20-2007, 03:44 PM
Oh wow, sounds nice. o_O Ichigo is doomed...or so it seems. Looking forward for more.

A strongest cero, huh? Somehow I couldn't see something like that coming lol.

Thanks for the spoiler and translation.

Syn
06-20-2007, 03:48 PM
Ahah, interesting. I wonder how Ichigo intends to win against GJ in those conditions.

King hollow (trans note: Ichigo’s hollow?) sends a great light/flash from his chest planning to kill Ichigo with it. <-- doesn't king hollow refers to GJ? It doesn't really makes sense on the other way around (as Ichigo's hollow I mean) XD

Thanks mori for the spoiler and space for the translation :)

Kojy
06-20-2007, 03:49 PM
fake spoilers ftl :/

we just have to be pacient sooner or later we'll have it on our hands :D

spacecat
06-20-2007, 03:50 PM
Ahah, interesting. I wonder how Ichigo intends to win against GJ in those conditions.

King hollow (trans note: Ichigo’s hollow?) sends a great light/flash from his chest planning to kill Ichigo with it. <-- doesn't king hollow refers to GJ? It doesn't really makes sense on the other way around (as Ichigo's hollow I mean) XD

Thanks mori for the spoiler and space for the translation :)
I have no idea who king hollow is.....i was just guessing him.

Syn
06-20-2007, 03:50 PM
KòjýSýS, the spoiler translated by space is not a fake, it's the true one :)
@space: I don't know either, I'm just trying to guess. 3 lines spoilers likes to mess up with the Bleach fans lol.

Velius
06-20-2007, 03:52 PM
Hmm. That king hollow part is strange at best. Shirosaki tries to kill Ichigo? hmm. Guess we'll have to wait for more. Thanks spacecat.

imamess
06-20-2007, 04:06 PM
Grimmjaw did mention something in 279 about the scar on his chest. Maybe that absorbed Ichigo's reiatsu and he's using it now? It was from their first fight before Ichigo did his vaizard training, so his hollow's power wasn't under check. Just a random guess, grasping at straws.

This fight is certainly going to be interesting.

Kojy
06-20-2007, 04:08 PM
oh xD, but still what's up with the king hollow thingy @_@

Gintoki
06-20-2007, 04:21 PM
There was no Shirosaki Action in a long time, so would be nice to see some, now. On the other side "King Hollow" is really a strange title.

Geta Boshi
06-20-2007, 04:22 PM
This chapter is a prequel of whats to come : )

spacecat
06-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Yeah the king hollow part could also mean top hollow or supreme hollow. It is really just a nickname used by the person who wrote the spoiler which doesn't really help us unfortunately.

Kojy
06-20-2007, 04:23 PM
hmm should it be related to the fact that shirosaki wants to be the king and if ichigo loses himself he would obtain that title?
still Ichigo was unconscient so i think the thoery goes down the sewer :/

Geta Boshi
06-20-2007, 04:34 PM
Yeah the king hollow part could also mean top hollow or supreme hollow. It is really just a nickname used by the person who wrote the spoiler which doesn't really help us unfortunately.

It could be Hichi but why is Hichi trying to kill Ichi . I mean he is powerful enough to take over also Ichi dies Hichi dies . Also if it is Hichi, he needs a new powerup we dont know how GJ's release will be like

Kojy
06-20-2007, 04:38 PM
i guess ichigo's uber confidence right now is a good power up and i think the next time he will pull out his mask he will have completly mastered so he can fight evenly against GJ's release.

spacecat
06-20-2007, 05:02 PM
It could be Hichi but why is Hichi trying to kill Ichi . I mean he is powerful enough to take over also Ichi dies Hichi dies . Also if it is Hichi, he needs a new powerup we dont know how GJ's release will be like
Kill could also just be take him over, or i could have messed the line up completely. It was very confusing. Gah we must wait *impatient* :D

vaizado
06-20-2007, 05:06 PM
Thanks for the spoilers, wether they are real or not! >.<

Hmm, in all honesty I hope this fight ends soon. I want the story to progress more so the anime doesnt get stuck with fillers for too long.

Geta Boshi
06-20-2007, 05:08 PM
Kill could also just be take him over, or i could have messed the line up completely. It was very confusing. Gah we must wait *impatient* :D

Naah its okay dude if I did want that much accuracy I would have waited for chapter to release . And who ever cares about small errors if any all that matters is your time effort and more so speed translation : )

Syn
06-20-2007, 05:09 PM
If it's GJ who launches the attack, it could be interesting to note that they use different parts of their bodies to launch ceros. For example, Ulquiorra using his finger would mean that he's only using a tiny part of his strength, compared to GJ using his chest which has to be his biggest attack in non-released form oO

Annie
06-20-2007, 05:12 PM
Didn't Yami shot a cero from his mouth in ch 194? Or I misunderstood. But if GJ really use his chest, it should be interest how effective that cero is.

Velius
06-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Yammi shot one out of his mouth. Which seems like takes the least amount of skill to do. Grimm likes shooting them out his hands. And yea, Ulq with his finger. But chest?! That's a new one.

Syn
06-20-2007, 05:19 PM
Which is why I wonder if the power of the cero is related to the body part they're using to launch the cero XD

spacecat
06-20-2007, 05:19 PM
Well it wasn't the kanji for cero btw it was just flash or glint. Very confusing sentence.

Geta Boshi
06-20-2007, 05:22 PM
King Hollow just may be the Espada GJ cause Huge Hollows word has been used before but most likely Hichi

Syn
06-20-2007, 05:24 PM
Ah well, guess we'll have to wait for the RAW then LOL. ^^; thank you for the precision spacey ^^

sasuki-chan
06-20-2007, 05:47 PM
thank for the trans :)

lol...spoilers can be so confusing sometimes @___@ (I'm interested in this flash thing :confused:)
still,I would have like 3 pages at least about some other characters' situation (ahem...rukia...)
It seems we won't see the others soon yet XD

Frosted Heart
06-20-2007, 05:49 PM
Thanks for the spoilers, spacey!

Perhaps the person meant 'King Hollow' shot a cero at his chest? LOL the other translation gave me the mental image of ceros coming out of his nipples like headlights. XD Hmm, maybe King Hollow refers to someone else? I wouldn't be surprised if their fighting attracted the other Espadas' attention. And we haven't seen Noitora in a while, eh?

Ah well, guess we just have to wait. :)

shivath
06-20-2007, 05:53 PM
I know it's unlikely and don't really belive it myself :rolleyes: but my guess for this "King Hollow" would be Aizen. I know he's not really a hollow....I think :p I was just thinking this "great light/flash" could be Kidou or however you spell it. Sorry if someone posted this "theory". Like I wrote...I'd say it's highly unlikely.

edit: I'll leave my post but re-reading the spoiler I don't think so anymore. Guess I should pay more attention. I don't see Aizen running in just to kill Ichigo, lol.

edit2: wow, really had some bad typos.

Riekie
06-20-2007, 05:57 PM
Well..you may never know Shivath...who knows what KT has planned for us all:D

Gah...can't wait for the chappie to come out!

badgercoon
06-20-2007, 05:59 PM
KòjýSýS:
Patience. The script and full raws will come out soon enough.

Thanks, as always, space. :)

DeDaL
06-20-2007, 06:07 PM
Hm...confusing.

Thanks, spacey... :)

debbiechan
06-20-2007, 06:07 PM
Thank youuuu, Spacey.
And *fails* SHIROSAKI. omg. I'm excited this week.

Zangetsu01
06-20-2007, 06:23 PM
Thanks Spacecat for the translation...
"King Hollow", a little weird, Cero from the chest, so Grimm can make Ceros with his hands and his chest... Waiting the pics...

spacecat
06-20-2007, 06:31 PM
Thank youuuu, Spacey.
And *fails* SHIROSAKI. omg. I'm excited this week.
oooh no don't get your hopes up, that was me speculating and I'm probably wrong ahahaha

yanniv
06-20-2007, 06:34 PM
I think it say's Grimmjow fires a cero at Orihime and after that Ichigo moves with the intention of killing Grimmjow, thus he pulls out his Vaizard mask.

sasuki-chan
06-20-2007, 06:41 PM
I think it say's Grimmjow fires a cero at Orihime and after that Ichigo moves with the intention of killing Grimmjow, thus he pulls out his Vaizard mask.
no,he wouldn't do something of so low...right? :confused:

spacecat
06-20-2007, 06:42 PM
hmm I dunno Yanniv, it's hard to tell how it's written. You can interprate the meaning of the Kanji so many ways... so I guess we have to wait for more or til we see some pics.

Slev
06-20-2007, 06:46 PM
Damn you Himajin and your vague spoilers. But thanks for posting it mori and thanks for translating it spacecat. :D

tehworstguy
06-20-2007, 06:48 PM
Ah, I'm guessing that's the real answer. As the spoiler mentions Inoue in conjunction with the cero, it stands to reason that Grimm fires a cero at her rather than firing a cero at Ichigo from his chest. All in all, it's a pretty clever way to neutralize the mask element.

That is, to force Ichigo to bring it out in order to save Orihime and be unable to use it offensively.

yanniv
06-20-2007, 06:51 PM
hmm I dunno Yanniv, it's hard to tell how it's written. You can interprate the meaning of the Kanji so many ways... so I guess we have to wait for more or til we see some pics.

Yeah, confusing for sure.

spacecat
06-20-2007, 06:53 PM
Ah, I'm guessing that's the real answer. As the spoiler mentions Inoue in conjunction with the cero, it stands to reason that Grimm fires a cero at her rather than firing a cero at Ichigo from his chest. All in all, it's a pretty clever way to neutralize the mask element.
Hmm although it may be so he didn't use the cero kanji when he had just used it in the sentence before. It doesn't mention Inoue btw, it says chest/breast but sometimes he writes that for her.

tehworstguy
06-20-2007, 06:57 PM
Hmm although it may be so he didn't use the cero kanji when he had just used it in the sentence before. It doesn't mention Inoue btw, it says chest/breast but sometimes he writes that for her.

It would be odd for him to have used it in reference to Grimmjow, though. I don't know, it just seems in keeping with his actions in this fight for Grimm to force Ichigo to waste his eleven seconds in such a manner.

spacecat
06-20-2007, 07:02 PM
It would be odd for him to have used it in reference to Grimmjow, though. I don't know, it just seems in keeping with his actions in this fight for Grimm to force Ichigo to waste his eleven seconds in such a manner.
Yes it does seem a likely solution to the jumble of words, we have intention to kill, breast/chest/can even mean tits, Ichigo, flash and king/supreme/grand hollow. LMAO

yanniv
06-20-2007, 07:06 PM
Well, currently it says Hollow Ichigo shoots a cero into Ichigo. That doesn't sound right. >.<

spacecat
06-20-2007, 07:10 PM
Well, currently it says Hollow Ichigo shoots a cero into Ichigo. That doesn't sound right. >.<
Not shoots, I put sends or uses. That's why i didn't put cero, it doesn't say cero or shoot/fires. Let's just wait eh? Everyone agrees its confusing, the way I worded it was the way the kanji was interpreted by me, even if it sounds stupid or doesn't make sense that's what I know is in there.

DeDaL
06-20-2007, 07:10 PM
Yes it does seem a likely solution to the jumble of words, we have intention to kill, breast/chest/can even mean tits, Ichigo, flash and king/supreme/grand hollow. LMAO

LOL, It may mean anything, even "the chapter ends with Grimmjow shooting cero at Orihime".

Kojy
06-20-2007, 07:11 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah this script is way to confusingggg, let's just wait for the RAW shall we xD

DeDaL
06-20-2007, 07:20 PM
Hm...

Isn't it like..

" 'the great hollow' flashes(like in 'flash-step/shunpo') towards 'boobs' and is about to kill "

???

EDIT: Damn, I really have to get back to my japanese self-studies.

EDIT2: I imagine Grimm go like this: "Damn, this is boring, shinigami!!! Don't wanna fight, eh?! PATHETIC!!! Come and fight me, dammit!!! ... No? Well, to kills the boredom..." - Grimmjow sonido's towards Orihime and puts his blade to her neck - "...I'll finish off this bitch right now!!!"

Nama
06-20-2007, 07:25 PM
I know quite a bit of Japanese too but this is confusing, so I shall be waiting for more spoilers and the raw lol. :p

Tomodachi69
06-20-2007, 08:03 PM
Wow, confusing spoiler :p

'King Hollow'... I'd love if that meant Shiro, as he is the character with which 'king' most fits, but ... he's not king. Ichigo is. And, yea, why would, or how could, he use a cero on Ichigo from... inside?

Ahaha, maybe Shiro will disconnect from Ichigo like how one can make a zanpakutou materialize, ie. Renji and Zabimaru during Bankai training. Maybe Shiro will 'bust out' of Ichigo ala Alien style and come out of the wound in his chest ahahaha.

yanniv
06-20-2007, 08:06 PM
It isn't a cero, I looked at it wrong. It is a flash of some sort as in movement. Possibly Sonido?

Velius
06-20-2007, 08:09 PM
We don't know exactly for sure. So there is no point in saying it is or isn't something for sure. We have to wait on a more detailed script or raw. But yes, it's looking rather confusing so far. One of the most confusing 3 lines spoilers in a while.

yanniv
06-20-2007, 08:27 PM
With all due respect, that is what it says according to Himajin. Whether he meant it or not it what we are discussing.

Geta Boshi
06-20-2007, 08:34 PM
Nothing changed in this chapter with resp to 278 . I deem this chapter filler and pin my hopes on the next . KT shouldn’t be competing with the anime team : (

Tomodachi69
06-20-2007, 08:40 PM
Actually, aren't we discussing what Himajin's spoiler means? It appears to be extremely confusing and almost nonsensical in grammar.

Even the translator of the spoiler was confused. I didn't see you post a translation of any sort, so how do you know how accurate Space's translation of Himajin's Japanese is?

Even if the 'flash' refers to Sonido, does that mean 'king hollow' is GJ? Doesn't make sense if Hima refers to GJ as 'king', only Numero Uno and Shirosaki would ever be called 'king' in Bleach.

I suppose 'king' can be interepreted as 'best' and therefore be referring to GJ as the 'best hollow'? Unless 'king' was actually used and is not a translation error by Space..

Nocturne
06-20-2007, 08:55 PM
Ah, not going to even try to make sense of the spoilers but if I did my interpretation would be that Grimmjow grew boobs due to the side effects of Orihime's rejection powers. Yeah, that sounds about right. XD That said, thanks for translating, spacecat and for the raw, mori!!!

twsl
06-20-2007, 09:19 PM
also note that the grandpa arrancar has a mask which resembles a crown, so maybe he could be the kinghollow as well >____> not sure though T____T;;;

Riekie
06-20-2007, 09:41 PM
Actually, aren't we discussing what Himajin's spoiler means? It appears to be extremely confusing and almost nonsensical in grammar.

Even the translator of the spoiler was confused. I didn't see you post a translation of any sort, so how do you know how accurate Space's translation of Himajin's Japanese is?

Even if the 'flash' refers to Sonido, does that mean 'king hollow' is GJ? Doesn't make sense if Hima refers to GJ as 'king', only Numero Uno and Shirosaki would ever be called 'king' in Bleach.

I suppose 'king' can be interepreted as 'best' and therefore be referring to GJ as the 'best hollow'? Unless 'king' was actually used and is not a translation error by Space..

We are discussing the spoilers that were giving us, yes. and the possible outcome of this chapter as well. we all want to know what this chapter is about and that's why most post here.

Spacecat's translation of Himajin's spoiler is most likely correct, as Spacecat has translated it for us weeks upon weeks, why would it be incorrect now. Spacecat even checked with someone to see if certain things were correct.

`Riekie

hyiceme
06-20-2007, 09:54 PM
spacecat, thanks for translating!! <3
the spoiler is extremely confusing..."king hollow"? strange word (king) to use, don't you think? anyways, I think this fight won't get interrupted for a while. I mean, there are 2 grimandichi fights already, if they don't finish this one properly, it'll be really lame imo. oh and I don't mind if shirosaki comes out. in fact, I kind miss him. :P

Kojy
06-20-2007, 09:58 PM
king hollow..erm..maybe the one who showed up behind the menos when aizen left from soul society?, or perhaps it's one Grimmjow's fraccion and king is rank name for hollows? like huge hollow and stuff hum :/..

sasuki-chan
06-20-2007, 10:17 PM
if I understood,King hollow is a surname that the guy gave to a character (lol at orihime's surname by the way -__-')?
I really don't see who it could be and I don't understand what happened with Hime either XD
hopefully,we should have a script thursday ^_____^

Syn
06-20-2007, 10:25 PM
I don't think Himajin is talking about Inoue o___o I mean breasts is not her nick on 2ch (but they are nearly that mean to her, yes).
Meh, we should have detailed spoilers in a few hours anyway ^^

Kojy
06-20-2007, 10:29 PM
I hope :D, thx for translate all to us spacecat :)

yanniv
06-20-2007, 10:34 PM
This is my version of it. I took the time to gather previous spoilers and try to make sense of Himajin's choice of words. If anything turns out wrong, just look at it as something to read. ^^


Yellowtail (Bleach).

グッジョブと苺の戦いまるまる一週
Ichigo and Grimmjow continue fighting; the fight gets repetitive.

最後辺りでグッジョブが最強の虚閃 
At the last second, Grimmjow uses his strongest Cero.

王虚の閃光でおっぱいごといちごを殺すつもりで発動
King hollow flash (I think it's the name for the super Cero) towards Orihime and Ichigo, respectively, with the intentions of killing.

最後は苺があの仮面状態になって終わり
It ends with Ichigo in Vaizard form.

sasuki-chan
06-20-2007, 10:34 PM
I don't think Himajin is talking about Inoue o___o I mean breasts is not her nick on 2ch (but they are nearly that mean to her, yes).
Meh, we should have detailed spoilers in a few hours anyway ^^

oh, ok then. When spacecat mentioned the breasts of someone I automatically assumed that he talked about orihime's XD
oh well :rolleyes:

Kojy
06-20-2007, 10:40 PM
Then is Grimmjow planning to kill Inoue? o_o, that doesn't fit with him wth, thought we wanted to fight with Ichigo and nothing all.
By what Yanniv said, he turns into Vaizard in order to repel the cero from Inoue?

Syn
06-20-2007, 10:42 PM
@Yanniv: I don't think GJ landed a cero towards Inoue because they went away from her on purpose. GJ's will is to fight Ichigo on 1 VS 1 and have no one else involved; so him attacking Inoue makes little to no sense. Although I do appreciate that you take your time to translate the spoiler I still think space's one makes more sense (Inoue is called big milk on 2ch BTW, not breasts ^^; ).

Kojy
06-20-2007, 10:59 PM
big milk xD, omg these names are so funny.
I seriously forgot about the fact they changed location to fight -__-.
Anyway it's so hard to accurate this chapter without the raw :/

gab00n
06-20-2007, 11:09 PM
I doubt Grimmjow would try kill Inoue as that would be a death sentence. If it is Grimmjow then he must be planning on escaping HM and becoming a lone ranger or something because Aizen would never forgive him.

It would be interesting if Ichigo's Hollow thought that now is the perfect time to make his second appearance as he promised. Inoue has her shield and Nell can absorb ceros so I am sure they will be fine.

We will have to wait for the raw to come out so that we can see just exactly what is going on. It would be nice if it was a new attack that Hollows can do. I would love to see Grimmjow get pissed off at Ichigo's Hollow for interrupting the fight, that would be funny.

Frosted Heart
06-21-2007, 12:25 AM
Well, Ichigo did say he didn't want to fight Grimmjow just for the sake of killing him. Perhaps Grimmjow decided Ichigo needed a little more incentive to fight full out, and so put Orihime and Nell in the crossfire? (A previous poster said this before; I just forgot who it was, sorry =/).

And even though Ichigo and Grimmjow moved away to fight, they are still within seeing distance of Orihime and Nell, and a super cero would probably have quite a range anyway. As for Aizen's punishing him for killing her (if his hit did land), well, I don't think Grimmjow would care all that much. As long as he gets his fight, he's happy. XD

Oh well, back to waiting. ^^

yanniv
06-21-2007, 02:08 AM
@Yanniv: I don't think GJ landed a cero towards Inoue because they went away from her on purpose. GJ's will is to fight Ichigo on 1 VS 1 and have no one else involved; so him attacking Inoue makes little to no sense. Although I do appreciate that you take your time to translate the spoiler I still think space's one makes more sense (Inoue is called big milk on 2ch BTW, not breasts ^^; ).

I used Himajin's spoiler from last week for Orihime and used it again this week. Both were the same set of Kanji symbols. So we'll see.

I'm thinking it may have to do with Ichigo not wanting to fight/kill Grimmjow. So to piss off Ichigo, he fires a cero in her direction. This makes Ichigo go berserk.

Saint Jack
06-21-2007, 02:21 AM
Yeah Himajin's spoiler was the same format as he posted last week where he included spoilers for Naruto and Bleach in one post
http://ex21.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/wcomic/1182096417/414

NeoSapien
06-21-2007, 02:44 AM
If Grimmjow attacks Orihime in order to get Ichigo to use his full power (which he is probably afraid of using too quickly), it will be very similar to how Doldonny attacked Nell. In fact, since Nell is probably standing close to Orihime, it's almost exactly the same.

BigBadBuu
06-21-2007, 04:47 AM
Isn't "hollow flash" the Furigana for Cero?

That being the case, perhaps Gurimojoh did indeed do a super cero.

As for "why" he'd throw one at Orihime/Nell? Ichigo has had 2 serious fights this arch, both in which his opponents got him to go all out by provoking him. What's the difference here?

I honestly hope and expect this to be where Shirosaki makes his triumphant returns. The main condition/requirement for him being allowed to control Shirosaki was to embrace his fighting/battle instinct. Ichigo failed to do this in every one of his fights since becoming a Vaizard.

Remember, Ichigo's 11 second time limit is *self-imposed*. (confirmed during his Vaizard training) It's a product of the same fear that crippled him post SS-arch. This can't be allowed to continue indefinitely..

-Buu

Primera Espada
06-21-2007, 05:06 AM
What if it actually HIT Nell and Orihime.
That'd be somethin.

Nell and Orihime are left almost dead, Ichigo finally cuts loose for real.

11 seconds pass...

Grimmjow releases, expecting the mask to disappear.

The mask stays.

Ichigo beats the tar out of grimmjow, is about to kill him, and then Orihime tells him to stop.

tada.

It *does* seem like this is typical for his Hueco Mundo fights though.

But look at his soul society fights. He had 3 that were prep fights for the one he really needed to win. Ikkaku, he starts out loosing, rememberS his training, and won. Renji, he starts out loosing, remembers his training, and won. Zaraki, he starts out loosing, inner mind fight to remember what's so important about his Zanpakuto, and won. Next fight was Byakuya (not counting the byakuya on the bridge fight) where he had trained, gained significant power and skill, and beat him.

If a similar series plays out, that would make this the Zaraki fight of Hueco Mundo. Grimmjow trying to push Ichigo to the max to get a good fight correlates to that.

So in the end, Ichigo's gonna come to his peak in power, beat Grimmjow, and then have to learn something new to beat Ulquiorra.

Grimmjow going after Orihime with what could be the strongest attack we've seen so far in the series would *definately* make sense in that regard.

spacecat
06-21-2007, 05:58 AM
I think what Velius was getting at was, since people can guess all they want and not be sure unless a very good translator like pocketmofo comes along we aren't going to get to a definite conclusion. Please respect what Velius said as he is helping me to moderate these forums.

As for people questioning my translation, I can be wrong but I do, do these every week and see the patterns people use and take note. I rarely ask for a second opinion even if I should. I'm not saying you can't rearrange what I wrote to sound better or throw in another word that I did not see to make sense of it all but I didn't want to do that cos if my guess is wrong then I gave wrong info based on a whim. I hope you all understand that I try to just write what is there and not make it fancy with guess work.

I am still learning Japanese and can definitely be wrong. I have been wrong twice before but I am doing my best.

If you study Japanese feel free to work with me and others to make sense of it but if you really don't know what you're on about and are just guessing then I think this falls under what Velius was trying to prevent. And please don't base things on babel fish.

btw If I don't post my trans at MH it's cos someone else has, and it usually goes there every week. This is good cos If another translator see's a major mistake they always correct it.

Da'Flash
06-21-2007, 09:14 AM
What about this one:

ブリーチ

GJ「何だそのツラは どうやら本当に殺意は無いらしいな 情けねえ奴だ」
苺「・・・何だと?」

斬り合い

GJ「黒崎 てめえは何のためにここに来た?」
苺「そんなもん決まってんだろ・・・! 井上助けるためだ!」
GJ「だったら何であいつを見た瞬間に連れて逃げる素振りを見せない!?
   違うぜ てめえはここへ戦いに来たんだ てめえには本能の示す道筋が見えてんだ!
   てめえは死神!俺は虚!負けた側は皆殺し!戦う理由が他にあるか!? 来いよ!
   最後まで立ってた方が生きて戻れる それだけのことだ!」

斬り合い

GJ「いい顔になってきたぜ だが・・・まだだ 俺が本当に戦いたいのはそのてめえじゃねえ
   喰らえ これが十刃だけに許された最強のセロだ!」

苺、後ろに井上がいることに気付く

グラン・レイ・セロ
王虚の閃光!!!

苺虚化なうえ無傷 井上も

GJ「・・・ようやく出やがったか」

mori
06-21-2007, 09:18 AM
heh we were just talking about the chances of that one being real or not on msn, impossible to tell really as there's no way to validate it. I'd stick with what we know to be true for now.

spacecat
06-21-2007, 09:29 AM
Yeah me and mori were debating over it but it's not from anyone with a reputation for posting real spoilers. If it is real however it would clear up that issue as it mentions Inoue (wow uses her actual name...if only himajin would do this) having moved to a closer position behind Ichigo and names the king hollow thing which in this appears to be an ultimate version of a cero. He put this kana above the king hollow グラン・レイ・セロ wich is guran rei sero. So more like grand hollow flash. 虚閃together is cero though which isn't there though it's obv some similar thing if this is real.

Da'Flash
06-21-2007, 09:34 AM
I know that's this one is very unsure but i remember that the last week, the same day and the ~ the same hour, one guy posted spoilers for missed series and i noticed later that they were all true...

Maybe the same guy maybe not ~~

spacecat
06-21-2007, 09:40 AM
Ok in that case I'll do a quick run down. It makes a lot more sense than Himajin's and speaks in normal terms that are easier for me to understand.

Grimmjow questions Ichigo's motives for coming to Hueco Mundo, he thinks if he were simply there to save Inoue he would have grabbed her and tried to run away. He prompts Ichigo to use his mask. Ichigo argues with him over it.

Grimmjow then says if it's the case he will destroy his companions and i guess aims at Inoue who has come up behind Ichigo. He fires his grand cero or whatever we wanna call it (see my previous post) so Ichigo pulls down the mask and stops it from hurting her.

Grimmjow is happy that Ichigo is finally getting the idea.

Da'Flash
06-21-2007, 09:44 AM
I sounds interesting thx ^^

spacecat
06-21-2007, 09:45 AM
Hmm but mori says if it was posted by the same guy that just did a naruto spoiler its fake ahaha. Oh well prob fake but we shall see.

sasuki-chan
06-21-2007, 09:49 AM
Hmm but mori says if it was posted by the same guy that just did a naruto spoiler its fake ahaha. Oh well prob fake but we shall see.

there are a lot of fake this week :rolleyes:
even you and mori who are used to find the script don't even know anymore
XDD

but if the spoil is true then I confirm:it makes a lot more sense than the first one lol :D

Annie
06-21-2007, 09:49 AM
If this spoiler is true then Kubo is really lazy in this chapter :/ He just copied the concept from Ichigo/Deldoni fight but this time use Orihime instead of Nell.

Da'Flash
06-21-2007, 09:57 AM
Hmm but mori says if it was posted by the same guy that just did a naruto spoiler its fake ahaha. Oh well prob fake but we shall see.
Hahahaha oops XD


there are a lot of fake this week :rolleyes:
even you and mori who are used to find the script don't even know anymore
XDD

It's not their fault, it's just a lot of 2chers (when i say a lot you can't hi-magine XD) love messing topics.
And most of all, spoilers providers fear to be caught so they don't run streets (= they are few now >french expression translated XD )

spacecat
06-21-2007, 09:58 AM
lol well the fake himajins didn't fool me this week ahaha and this person could be anyone. Me or Mori weren't gonna post this but since Dofla did I thought I'd tell ppl what it says anyways. It was just posted by a random user so I don't trust it but you never know. We will post anything definite in the first post anyways.

edit: yeah what dofla says is true, since spoiler ppls got arrested in Japan the numbers of spoiler pics/summaries has died off. Even the ones who post are being really inconspicuous about it.

sasuki-chan
06-21-2007, 10:23 AM
And most of all, spoilers providers fear to be caught so they don't run street(= they are few now >french expression translated XD )
dont worry I understood XD
you do know that generally french expressions are completely different than the english ones?:D (I already tried XDDD)

edit: yeah what dofla says is true, since spoiler ppls got arrested in Japan the numbers of spoiler pics/summaries has died off. Even the ones who post are being really inconspicuous about it.
It's for that reason I wont complain.They're nice enough to give us something so...(even if it's only 3 confusing lines :D)

mori
06-21-2007, 10:49 AM
lol well the fake himajins didn't fool me this week ahaha and this person could be anyone

xD they got me >__>

with anyluck miss bleach will update soon, probably whilst I'm out as they always seem to do that ><

spacecat
06-21-2007, 10:56 AM
xD they got me >__>

with anyluck miss bleach will update soon, probably whilst I'm out as they always seem to do that ><
imma watchin her with my hawkeyes.

mori
06-21-2007, 10:59 AM
imma watchin her with my hawkeyes.

now you just sound like a stalker lol

鰤 D:

spacecat
06-21-2007, 11:01 AM
now you just sound like a stalker lol
You should know I only stalk u mori. ;)

mori
06-21-2007, 11:03 AM
you're spamming now doc, don;t make me backseat mod yo' ass

Shannon
06-21-2007, 01:55 PM
EDIT: Chapters, didn't they use to update on Wednesdays-Thursdays? Now it's a bit Thursday-Fridays.

spacecat
06-21-2007, 01:59 PM
Yes it's confirmed mori is backseat modding ahaha but no the spoiler is not confirmed.

Tomodachi69
06-21-2007, 02:32 PM
If the spoiler is true, then nevermind mirroring Soul Society, that fight is, indeed, mirroring the Ichi/Dordoni fight =__=

Well, in any case, we should be getting the RAW tomorrow, anyway.

mori
06-21-2007, 03:27 PM
「BLEACH280.Jugulators2」


今ギモンに思ったのですが

破面は斬魄刀を解放すると

形態が変わるはずだよね

ふつうに刀を抜いただけでは変化しないんだね


グリムに殺意が無い一護

グリムは一護の心の中を語る

何のために虚圏にきたのか?

織姫を助けにきただけではなく

戦いに来たのだと

グリムは虚化一護と戦いたいらしく

一護をあおる

斬魄刀で自分の指を傷つけ

十刃だけに許された最強の虚閃を!

それは

織姫を狙う

「王虚の閃光!(グラン・レイ・セロ)」

それを虚化してかわす一護

喜ぶグリム

Velius
06-21-2007, 03:28 PM
Great so we still don't really know anything. ha. We have a spoiler, but it's probably fake. =/ And still no pics. Well, could be worse I guess. I'm not exactly sure how, but it could be.

The spoiler, again, seems like not much happening. They're not even really fighting. More like just chatting.

Edit: wtg mori, lets hope this sheads some light on anything.

mori
06-21-2007, 03:31 PM
Edit: wtg mori, lets hope this sheads some light on anything.

It does, its grimmjaw that uses the cero (strongest type) and he fires it at orihime.

Pretty sure it must be Ichigo going vaizard to block it because she says Grimmjaw is happy at the end of the chapter.

spacecat
06-21-2007, 03:32 PM
Ah so looks like that second spoiler we got was probably true.

Kojy
06-21-2007, 03:37 PM
Well it makes sense if we think that Grimmjow wants to fight Ichigo at full power and on it's will of justice Ichigo would refuse, so in order to make him go berserk GJ would go against whom Ichigo more care about.
And if h'es smiling that means Ichigo is going full power next time :D

Syn
06-21-2007, 03:44 PM
Ah, so it means that it's a Dordonie/Ichigo over again, with GJ as Dordonie? Somehow, I'm disappointed, but oh well, I guess that it's only while protecting that Ichigo is the strongest.

yanniv
06-21-2007, 03:46 PM
Well, this puts Ichigo on a limit of 11 seconds now.

But I'm sure Grimmjow will release in an all out fight. It should get good next chapter.

Kojy
06-21-2007, 03:51 PM
Well, this puts Ichigo on a limit of 11 seconds now.

But I'm sure Grimmjow will release in an all out fight. It should get good next chapter.

I think this will go more beyond then 11 seconds from now on :).

yanniv
06-21-2007, 03:54 PM
I think this will go more beyond then 11 seconds from now on :).

I kinda do too, but I'm sure either way 11 seconds could be a whole chapter if you know what I mean. ^^

spacecat
06-21-2007, 04:01 PM
Hmm well this matches exactly with the last summary and we know this is real so both are now confirmed. Hmm the finger line seems random and some is the writers thoughts at the start obviously.


「BLEACH280.Jugulators2」


今ギモンに思ったのですが
I always thought that
破面は斬魄刀を解放すると
when a hollow releases his zanpakutou
形態が変わるはずだよね
he’s meant to change form yeah?
ふつうに刀を抜いただけでは変化しないんだね
It doesn’t change shape by just being unsheathed.
グリムに殺意が無い一護
Ichigo just doesn’t have the killer instinct according to Grimmjow
グリムは一護の心の中を語る
Grimmjow talks about how he reckons Ichigo is thinking
何のために虚圏にきたのか?
Why did you come to Hueco Mundo?
織姫を助けにきただけではなく
You did not come just to save Orihime
戦いに来たのだと
You came to fight.
グリムは虚化一護と戦いたいらしく
Grimm really wants to fight Ichigo in Vaizard form
一護をあおる
It’s starting to get to Ichigo
斬魄刀で自分の指を傷つけ
He's cut his finger with his zanpakutou
十刃だけに許された最強の虚閃を!
now then he will use the strongest cero, only permitted to be used by the Espada.
それは
And so
織姫を狙う
he aims at Inoue
「王虚の閃光!(グラン・レイ・セロ)」
Grand cero!( guran ray sero)
それを虚化してかわす一護
Ichigo has pulled down his mask and deflects it
喜ぶグリム
Grimmjow is extatic

ezxx
06-21-2007, 04:02 PM
So grimmjow has released?

Kojy
06-21-2007, 04:02 PM
hehe yeah, like this it's hard to figure out how long he will have it on, still it would be good that the time boosts up so we can see progress in Ichigo hollow ability :p.

thx for the translation spacey.
Wow that grand cero thing is really new and Ichigo "deflected", that's like a big progress imo.

spacecat
06-21-2007, 04:05 PM
So grimmjow has released?
Nope I'm not sure what she's talking about at the start, maybe his zanpakutou has changed shape slightly or something?

shivath
06-21-2007, 04:07 PM
Thanks for the quick translation spacecat :) Seems interesting with the new cero and deflection.

Kristen
06-21-2007, 04:09 PM
Thank you for the translations! I'm looking forward to the chapter!

Nocturne
06-21-2007, 04:11 PM
Thanks for the translation, spacecat! Much appreciated! *loves*

I don't mind if Grimm doesn't change form when/if he releases in the next chapter. Is it sane to say that the stronger the Espada, the closer they are to being shinigami-like and therefore doesn't change shape when they release?

Da'Flash
06-21-2007, 04:11 PM
Hmm well this matches exactly with the last summary and we know this is real so both are now confirmed. Hmm the finger line seems random and some is the writers thoughts at the start obviously.

Haha ^^

So it seems that we have now a new spoiler provider that we can trust XD

Thanks for the trans ^^

ezxx
06-21-2007, 04:13 PM
Nope I'm not sure what she's talking about at the start, maybe his zanpakutou has changed shape slightly or something?

So that just means his release is like an actual shinigami's bankai; the form of the zanpaktou changes and not the shinigami's apperance. I hope that's what's happening. Oh and thanks for trans :D

mori
06-21-2007, 04:25 PM
cheers for the trans kitty. With any luck this'll mean next week we'll both see grimmjaw release and possibly get a clue into what'll happen with the 11 seconds.

spacecat
06-21-2007, 04:26 PM
So that just means his release is like an actual shinigami's bankai; the form of the zanpaktou changes and not the shinigami's apperance. I hope that's what's happening. Oh and thanks for trans :D
I really don't think Grim has released yet...well it didn't say that @_@ She is rambling about the form etc for some reason though :confused: but I guess we need to see it to understand why.

yanniv
06-21-2007, 04:31 PM
If Grimmjow would of released, she would have written a bunch of details on it.

Velius
06-21-2007, 04:37 PM
Looking better. Looks like grimm starts to fight with his zanpakuto in some way. Hence the confusion on Ichigo part on why Grimm isn't changing form or anything. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't actually release it in this whole fight. Can't wait for super cero.

mori
06-21-2007, 04:41 PM
I really don't think Grim has released yet...well it didn't say that @_@ She is rambling about the form etc for some reason though :confused: but I guess we need to see it to understand why.

yeah, I'd hazard a guess at maybe an art inconsistancy with his zanpakutou? i don't care, I'll let miss bleach ramble on <333

Looking better. Looks like grimm starts to fight with his zanpakuto in some way. Hence the confusion on Ichigo part on why Grimm isn't changing form or anything. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't actually release it in this whole fight. Can't wait for super cero.

yeah, it looks like its getting a little more interesting. Far more so than the dullness of last chapter. If there's no plot advancement going on at least give flashy fights with a decent pace eh kubo XD

spacecat
06-21-2007, 04:44 PM
Yes mori she can ramble forever and I will be happy.

All she is saying is basically he is using his sword and simply unsheathing it does not mean he has released...as we all know....maybe she just thought we could have forgotten lol

mori
06-21-2007, 05:07 PM
she's very considerate, i bet she's a babe >__>

so...grimmjaws cero grande...bigger than ichigo's kuroi getsuga tenshou he fired against ulqui or not?

Kojy
06-21-2007, 05:12 PM
We can't know that yet :p, but for Ichigo being able to deflect that means it must not be something that big?, or else Ichigo had a huge power-up all of sudden :s.

mori
06-21-2007, 05:15 PM
we can speculate =p. I'd also assume it wasn't on quite that scale but if its supposed to be the strongest type of cero it should be pretty spectacular.

Frosted Heart
06-21-2007, 05:29 PM
Remember, Ichigo also used his Vaizard form to block a cero from Ulquiorra, in order to protect Nell. I doubt Ulquiorra used a Super Cero, so I can only imagine what that would be like if he did. XD

Thanks for the translation, spacey! I can't wait to see this chapter, even if it doesn't seem like they're fighting much. Aaroniero did say Espada releases are nothing like normal Numeros releases, so it'd be cool if we finally see what he meant. Perhaps they have a shikai equivalent, instead of going into full release (bankai equivalent)?

mori
06-21-2007, 05:31 PM
I didn't think he protected nell from ulqui? He did against dordonii though...

...seems like a recurring theme >_>

Velius
06-21-2007, 05:35 PM
Thanks for the translation, spacey! I can't wait to see this chapter, even if it doesn't seem like they're fighting much. Aaroniero did say Espada releases are nothing like normal Numeros releases, so it'd be cool if we finally see what he meant. Perhaps they have a shikai equivalent, instead of going into full release (bankai equivalent)?
Yea, been waiting for Kubo to throw that one in, with another higher release for hollows, like he did with the shinigami. True he did maybe hint at it with Arraoniro, that line was very suspicious . It would be a little iffy at this point. We have already seen 2 espada release, and there hasn't been anything seen or mentioned of it, but who knows. Bankai didn't come for a while in the SS arc.

mori
06-21-2007, 05:39 PM
We have already seen 2 espada release, and there hasn't been anything seen or mentioned of it, but who knows.

there's always the age old argument of "oh luppi wasn't really worth his espada ranking" and that aaroiniro was only a gillian >_<

I dunno, I rather like the way they operate different to a shinigami's but I hope for some really impressive stuff when the top ranks do eventually release.

Velius
06-21-2007, 05:45 PM
Exactly, Kubo left it open so that he could throw it in later. It wouldn't surpise me one bit. Also because of Arroniro's line. Seems like that is something he could use later. It all adds up a little too conveintly.

Anyways it wouldn't surprise me if Grimm releases with something different happening or just never releases at all. Is this fight really going to be over within 11 seconds? How about with a clear victor? I am willing to bet neither.

yanniv
06-21-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm willing to bet Grimmjow will release because he wants a fight at full power.

Ichigo, for his own sake, better have something more to offer than 11 seconds. Because 11 seconds couldn't get him anywhere last time, it definitely won't get him anywhere with GJ's release form.

mori
06-21-2007, 05:54 PM
unless grimmjaw suddenly turns around and says...I emit so much power in my released form I can only use it for 11 seconds XDDDDD

I'd laugh too hard if something like that happened =p

more seriously Ichigo has to get a long overdue power up in this fight, that or he becomes the horse for a while ><

Frosted Heart
06-21-2007, 05:56 PM
I didn't think he protected nell from ulqui? He did against dordonii though...

...seems like a recurring theme >_> Chapter 271, pages 8-13. :D But yeah, I guess it's apparent (to the enemy) that he fights best when he has to protect someone. I guess Ichigo is just really easy to read. ^^

Exactly, Kubo left it open so that he could throw it in later. It wouldn't surpise me one bit. Also because of Arroniro's line. Seems like that is something he could use later. It all adds up a little too conveintly.

Anyways it wouldn't surprise me if Grimm releases with something different happening or just never releases at all. Is this fight really going to be over within 11 seconds? How about with a clear victor? I am willing to bet neither. I hope it IS something different, or else it's a little pointless hybridizing them in the first place, imo. @_@ They're supposed to gain the abilities of a shinigami, but we haven't seen anything really. However the Vaizards clearly show shinigami AND hollow abilities. Seems a little lopsided to me.

Hmm, I think this would be an opportune time for someone to rescue the rescuers. >_> Like you said, 11 seconds isn't enough. Then again, Grimmjow could have his 'prey' taken from him again. :D Poor man can never get his fun, I swear. ^^

mori
06-21-2007, 06:37 PM
Chapter 271, pages 8-13. But yeah, I guess it's apparent (to the enemy) that he fights best when he has to protect someone. I guess Ichigo is just really easy to read. ^^

haha really, I'd completely forgotten that xD that means every fight ichigo's had he's had to stop someone from getting cero'd lol

ezxx
06-21-2007, 06:56 PM
oh so she's just saying he drew the sword :| too bad

Gintoki
06-21-2007, 08:15 PM
I'm really looking forward to see this King Cero in Pictures. On the other Hand it can't be that strong, if it's so easily stopped by "The Kurosaki".

mori
06-21-2007, 08:18 PM
I wouldn't say easily stopped if he had to pull out his mask to do so, thats a sizeable power up required however you look at it.

Grimmjaw must have been incredibly confident that Ichigo would make it in time to block it, he must know that his life is over should Orihime die lol.

Gintoki
06-21-2007, 08:22 PM
Well, I think it would be the same if he saved her or not. He would have ended with his Mask on. I even think with Orihime being dead, there would be a bigger chance that Shirosaki takes over from the hate and killing intent.

mori
06-21-2007, 08:32 PM
Oh there would have been a bigger chance, Ichigo would probably have gone berserk lol.

I more meant that the fight might be important to Grimmjaw, but I don't think he'd have fired that cero if he didn't think Ichigo would get there. He knows that if he kills Orihime one way or another he's dying very quickly after that because right now Orihime's abilities are probably the only thing Aizen really cares about. Grimmjaw wants to beat Ichigo but I'm pretty sure he wants to stay alive after the fight as well.

Primera Espada
06-21-2007, 08:37 PM
And let's not forget that Grimmjow is one of the few espada who realizes that they are all cannon fodder for aizen.

I'm thinking that Grimmjow is planning an out. I mean, what he's doing, not letting ulquiorra take Orihime back, imprisoning a commanding officer, putting aizen's pet in danger, reviving a fallen enemy...

there's no way Grimmjow will be allowed to stay.

I half think hes suicidal, and wants Ichigo to kill him cause at least then he could die in a real fight. If Aizen gets him it'll be *blink* it's over.

Annie
06-21-2007, 08:42 PM
I've read the full spoiler of this chapter from non-english forum Mask Ridder Hollow posted it here chapter 280 ( http://www.invisionplus.net/forums/index.php?mforum=deathberry&showtopic=1609&st=0&#entry37233) So I think I should share with you guys what's going in this chapter.

Chapter 280: Jugulator 2

The fight continued from last week but gj started to get annoy with Ichigo's lack of intent to kill (he started to get bore) said this is pathetic. So he used sonido and appeared behind Ichigo aiming to hit his head but Ichigo managed to avoid an attack. GJ used his Zampakutou this time and Ichigo used Zangetsu to take an attack. GJ seem to have an upper hand at this point.

When their swords clashed agian GJ asked Ichigo why did he came to Hueco Mundo which Ichigo replied "to rescue Inoue". GJ heard that and asked back "You didn't look like you want to rescue her from this place when you met her" and continued 'because she looked unharm? even though something might already happen inside of her?' That make Ichigo screamed "What have you guys done to Inoue!"

GJ satisfied with Ichigo's reaction "Good reaction, Kurosaki"

"You said you came here to save her?" "You really don't know anything. Let me tell you something, you're here to fight. You see it yourself, it's your instinct. You are a shinigami and I am a hollow, the loser die! It sets that way before this or even after thousand years!! Is there any other reason?"

"Come! the last man standing is the one who will return!' After this GJ attacked Ichigo again and this time they continued to the point GJ managed to injured Ichigo. "Good Kurosaki..." "But not good enough. the one I really want to fight with is you during that time!

With that GJ cutted his his finger to draw blood and aimed at Ichigo. It looked like he's about to blast a cero but more powerful "Take this, this is the final stage of cero which only espadas are allow to use"

But Ichigo saw something from the corner of his eyes. He turned to see it was Nell and Orihime. He didn't realised that he and GJ came back here. Ichigo screamed at GJ to stop but GJ already shouted "Gran Rey Cero!" With that everything was destroyed but when the vision became clearer the tower where Orihime and Nell stood was ok with Ichigo stood in front with Vaizard mask on his face. GJ smiled, satisfied that Ichigo finally used his vaizard mask.

yanniv
06-21-2007, 08:44 PM
Well, I think it would be the same if he saved her or not. He would have ended with his Mask on. I even think with Orihime being dead, there would be a bigger chance that Shirosaki takes over from the hate and killing intent.

Nah, Shirosaki wants Ichigo to actually use his instinct rather than deny it.

Shirosaki only will come out when Ichigo is worthless.

mori
06-21-2007, 08:45 PM
thanks annie!!!

you rock, I'm actually looking forward to this chapter a bit more now it sounds quite fun. Grimmjaw is mirroring what the Kenpachi manifestation in Ichi's inner world told him quite a lot this chapter.

Velius
06-21-2007, 08:54 PM
Thanks for that annie. Looks pretty good. Can't wait to see the pics, I think it will excel more there. Still too much talking IMO. Seem like it's just being drawn out. At least it's moving along, mask and all. *still waiting for something jaw dropping to happen very soon*

Annie
06-21-2007, 08:56 PM
You guys are welcome ^^

I posted the spoiler here but I would really appreciate it if no one post it anywhere else. Beside some details might be different once the RAW come out.

Dice
06-21-2007, 09:00 PM
Thank you Annie, you are awesome for sharing!

As for the chapter, it still seems really slow but I find it really interesting that Grimmjow brings up that something is happening inside Orihime. Aside from the obvious jokes :D I think that perhaps it hints that Ulquiorra's manipulation, or maybe Hueco Mundo itself, is changing her emotional state and powers. Perhaps it's an indication that she'll stay in HM.

Grimmjow can be quite perceptive.

mori
06-21-2007, 09:00 PM
Still too much talking IMO. Seem like it's just being drawn out. At least it's moving along, mask and all. *still waiting for something jaw dropping to happen very soon*

Ah I loved the talking this week though, Grimmjaw is actually quite insightful once he starts talking rather than yelling =p. He's very blunt in the way he nails what a characters type is on the head and in how he puts things (putting into light ulqui's failings with keeping hime safe as well as Ichigo's desires).

tehworstguy
06-21-2007, 09:02 PM
It's sweet that Grimmjow apparently sees it as his duty to tutor Ichigo in the ways of evil. It's also interesting that he's started calling him by his surname. It'll be Ichigo in 10 chapters and Ichi-chan in 50.

The "even though something might have already happened inside of her?" line strikes me as thoroughly creepy. He can only be referring to the psychological damage that has been inflicted upon her, but it's a rather provocative way to put it.

Slev
06-21-2007, 09:05 PM
Thanks, Annie.

Looks like Grimmjow is going to force Ichigo to break his 11 second limit in this fight. Something inside of Orihime? It's probably not something physical but something mental instead.

Doesn't look like a whole lot happens but it's a step up from last chapter.

Velius
06-21-2007, 09:09 PM
Ah I loved the talking this week though, Grimmjaw is actually quite insightful once he starts talking rather than yelling =p. He's very blunt in the way he nails what a characters type is on the head and in how he puts things (putting into light ulqui's failings with keeping hime safe as well as Ichigo's desires).
I do agree somewhat. It is at least interesting. But I still feel like it's just taking up time. But with this situation it is very understandable. Kubo keeps building the bond between these two. Almost like the teacher and student indeed.

mori
06-21-2007, 09:14 PM
I do agree somewhat. It is at least interesting. But I still feel like it's just taking up time. But with this situation it is very understandable. Kubo keeps building the bond between these two. Almost like the teacher and student indeed.

Yes, someone pointed out something of interest to me as well a few minutes ago; that a lot of the hatred and rage seemed gone from them last chapter, that they were enjoying the fight for the fights sake rather than for the dislike of each other.

Also the point tehworstguy raised about Grimmjaw starting to call Ichigo by his surname marks that he's seeing him as something of an equal now I think, before he was merely shinigami, nothing more than any other lowly piece of trash but now Grimmjaw acknowledges he's worth recognising and that he's worth fighting.

Nama
06-21-2007, 09:16 PM
Thank you, Annie! :)

Yes, he must be referring to the psychological damage inflicted upon Orihime. It's not surprising he knows about it since all of the Espadas do. It could be an indication of her staying in Hueco Mundo, but not a guarantee at this point.

I think Ichigo is there to fight AND to rescue Orihime, but Grimmjow is just trying to make Ichigo 'admit' he's only seeking battles.

And I also like the bond that Kubo seems to be building up between Grimmjow and Ichigo.

Zangetsu01
06-21-2007, 09:29 PM
Thanks Annie
Well, finally, Ichizard appears^^, get ready for Round 2 next week...:rolleyes:

Riekie
06-21-2007, 09:35 PM
Thanks alot Annie!

Aahh...Good ol' Grimmjow being so insightful with Ichigo...F-in sweet!
Can't wait to see the looks on Grimmjows face when he tells Ichigo all of the above!

*Aah The Gurimmjoh has become even cooler than before* *weeeehh*

Annie
06-21-2007, 09:46 PM
Yeah GJ really talk to Ichigo in this chapter and keep calling him 'Kurosaki'. First they were just arrancar and shinigami, now they're becoming frienimies.

debbiechan
06-22-2007, 02:21 AM
Woo. Thank you Annie.
"Something inside Inoue?" :confused: Uh-oh, that doesn't bode well. I mean, we've all been thinking that Orihime has been emotionally stressed, but since we haven't been privy to ANY of her internal state (the only one we've gotten internal monologue from is Rukia), we really don't know how messed up she is.
Maybe she's not that messed up, and Grimmjow's line may be a set-up. Maybe Grimmjow (who would've figured him for a perceptive and manipulative guy? Thought that was Ulqui's role!) is setting Ichigo up to believe that somehow Inoue's been brainwashed. Or maybe he's just goading Ichigo to stay angry. Either way, if Inoue refuses to leave Hueco Mundo as has been widely predicted, Ichigo may misunderstand Inoue's motives for wanting to stay--and may insist on continuing with the rescue. Which, of course, would be a good thing. I love it when shounen heroes serendipitously do the thing that leads to success.

Also .... *fails* Hollow Ichigo again. Finally something happens and we see the mask! Yey!

The taunting about "you really want to fight" is going to spur some character drama with Ichigo, obviously. The conflict between wanting to protect and wanting to avenge, the Hollow side and the Shinigami side, ego and id and all that fun stuff. I don't expect any of this will be resolve with Ichigo soon--I expect more angst on his part no matter what the outcome of this particular fight.

And maybe while Ichigo's conflicted on the battlefield, Ishida (who has no such conflict) will sweep in and save Orihime. The members of the rescue party can be re-gathered as Orihime heals everyone and the drama may be...
will Ichigo the Evil Hollow stay in Las Noches as Aizen seems to want him to do? Maybe Grimmjow is acting under Aizen's orders? What a twist that would be.

Yikes, just thought of something. Whoever tries to escape with Orihime is going to have to deal with Ulquiorra soon. Damn it, Hime, just reject the whole fricken fight or something.

Anyway, this chapter sounds interesting--not so much for what happens but for what it suggests could happen in later chapters. Grimmjow seems to know too much about Ichigo, about Orihime, and about what may yet happen. He's not a roaring brainless beast after all--Grimmjow the mastermind! :D

eurys
06-22-2007, 02:28 AM
Thanks Annie, you're awesome!

So, I don't really like the fact that Orihime and Nell are suddenly near the fighting but...well, if it can move the plot.
Still, GJ is saying contradictory things...He said Ichigo has only the instinct to fight, yet Ichigo gets serious in this fight when he needs to protect the girls so...weird.

And what do I see? A possible plot development? :D
I agree the line about something changing inside Orihime is creepy. Is it linked to her powers or just emotional or did Aizen do something?
At least, it's interesting lol

StarryInoueSky
06-22-2007, 03:55 AM
For some reason, this chapter doesn't seem like I'll enjoy it... *sigh*=\ I don't know why, I just feel it. *scratches head*

And (because I'm too lazy to go through previous posts) Has it been confirmed as a true spoiler?

yanniv
06-22-2007, 04:04 AM
Yeah, it's confirmed.

StarryInoueSky
06-22-2007, 04:08 AM
Ah, I see. Thanks!

*is more excited for next week's chapter* :(

Though I think Grimmjow is referring to Orihime's will to 'reject' the whateverorbofdestructionthing. I don't think there's anything weird inside of Orihime or anything like that. If there was, I'm sure Kubo would have at least given us a tiny intsey hint or something. *shrugs* I hope Ichigo goes all out on GJ in the next chapter for being so stupid and endagering his nakama. :) *definitely excited for the next chapter*

EternalDream
06-22-2007, 04:14 AM
Maybe your opinions will change after you read the chapter (with pics) Starry!!! **hugs** ^_^

I'm really looking forward to this chapter. I LOVE how Kubo keeps making Orihime be in every chapter recently. I really wasn't expecting her to be in this one at all.

I'm also noticing a patter I'm loving too XD :
Ulqui first and now Grimm used the "nakama" statement to get Ichigo to fight, and when he didn't take it seriously (enough) and go all out on them, they went and used Orihime and poof! Gone is "let's play nice" Ichigo! XD

The next chapter should be sweet as well. Vizard Ichigo! Whooh!!! Hopefully he can stay in his form for more than 11 seconds though. Dunno why he'd be able to, since we haven't gotten a "real" powerup for him yet, but w/e.

NeoSapien
06-22-2007, 04:15 AM
I think that Grimmjow meant that Orihime may have taken mental injuries that don't show on the outside. It's possible that his unusual language choice (if it isn't artifact from a double translation) could foreshadow something dark happening inside Orihime, but I doubt that Grimmjow meant anything especially sinister with it.

At any rate, it does suggest that the various traumas and manipulations inflicted on Orihime so far will play a role in the rest of the arc. Ichigo won't just win the battle, grab Orihime and head home safely.

StarryInoueSky
06-22-2007, 04:17 AM
Maybe your opinions will change after you read the chapter (with pics) Starry!!! **hugs** ^_^

Maybe! I'm actually hoping it does! :) I hate having fluttery things in my stomach... makes me nervous and gah... still have to wait for Friday and I'm leaving tomorrow night to Sacramento and no computer until Monday night. x.X *dies*


The next chapter should be sweet as well. Vizard Ichigo! Whooh!!! Hopeufully he can stay in his form for more than 11 seconds though. Dunno why he'd be able to, since we haven't gotten a "real" powerup for him yet, but w/e.

You never know... Kubo is the creator and with him, you never know. ^^ I'm actually crossing my fingers to have him last at least fifteen seconds or so. That'd just prove to be AWESOME and I'd be happy 'cause four more seconds of awesome a*swhooping!

@Neo: Mental injuries??? What mental injuries?? Eh... hmm... in MY opinion (thanks for sharing yours though! :)) I think Orihime has only grown stronger in her will and faith after going through all of that. The look she gives Lolly proves it, in my opinion. And the only dark thing happening inside of Inoue that I can think of is the whole rejecting the orbthing and being 'serious/possibly' mean to Ichigo to have him let her stay there so she CAN do it and PROTECT her friends and him. Then again, that's what I think. *shrugs*

Syn
06-22-2007, 07:03 AM
I think that Grimmjow meant that Orihime may have taken mental injuries that don't show on the outside. It's possible that his unusual language choice (if it isn't artifact from a double translation) could foreshadow something dark happening inside Orihime, but I doubt that Grimmjow meant anything especially sinister with it.

At any rate, it does suggest that the various traumas and manipulations inflicted on Orihime so far will play a role in the rest of the arc. Ichigo won't just win the battle, grab Orihime and head home safely.

I definitely agree with that. I think that Kubo foreshadowed GJ's speech with the weird interaction between Ulq and Inoue previously (him staring at her and her looking... ashamed?). In the span of what? 2 days? Inoue began to change a lot because of this psychological cage Ulq has been building around her. Her behaviour when she healed the two lolis was odd at best.

Elsewise, pretty much satisfied with this chapter; I still hope that GJ won't turn in the good guys side. He doesn't strike me as someone who has his redemption awaiting, despite his fear of Aizen.

tehworstguy
06-22-2007, 07:31 AM
I'd go even further and say that the psychological trauma inflicted on Orihime is the ultimate purpose of this arc. Well, that is, I mean that getting her in such a state that she will attempt to erase the hougyoku and inadvertently remove its seal is the point of this arc. The established parallels between this arc and the SS arc suggest this. In short, as the SS arc was actually about Aizen getting the hougyoku, the Hueco Mundo arc is about Aizen awakening the hougyoku. Both are superficially about a rescue, but are actually steps on Aizen's path to godhood. Given Aizen's indifference to the invaders, I wouldn't be surprised to find that every moment of this arc was a deliberate construction by him, much like a lot of the SS arc.

batz
06-22-2007, 07:45 AM
Thanks for that spoiler Annie!

"Something happened inside of her." Well you guys are right, this could very well mean that Inoue has been manipulated to stay, thinking that she might be able to destroy the Hougokou.

spacecat
06-22-2007, 07:53 AM
Thanks for sharing Annie, please post his summaries every week if it's not too much trouble :)

mori
06-22-2007, 08:43 AM
Regarding Orihime changing I think the whole things been pretty calculated by Aizen, including the idea of having Ulquiorra look after her.

First he tells us that he gave her the time to say goodbye and the like so that she felt as if she was going on her own free will, then we have the later incident where she doesn't want to eat and rather than forcing her again Ulqui gives her a choice. She can either eat the food herself or she'll be forced to eat it, again its only a small choice but it marks that she is given some say in things.

I think that every time she chooses to do something of her own will, her concioussness is perhaps swayed into believing this is what she really wants to choose and thus it becomes easier and easier as she makes more decisions untill she feels sure.

Wouldn't be the first time Aizens messed with people psychologically.

spacecat
06-22-2007, 10:15 AM
Pics:

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Primera Espada
06-22-2007, 10:17 AM
woot! That's some nice Ichigoness there. Notably less buff than grimmjow though XD.

He sure does look pissed.

Da'Flash
06-22-2007, 10:17 AM
Thanks space ^^

Mei
06-22-2007, 10:19 AM
Woh, this picture of Ichigo is analogue to Grimmjow´s title page last week, I think.
(= arch enemies?)

But, indeed: nice expression, determined.
I know what I will try to draw as soon as we have the Chinese scanlation! ;-)

sasuki-chan
06-22-2007, 10:19 AM
OMG ichigo *q*
thanks for the pic!!!!

Syn
06-22-2007, 10:20 AM
Ahahah nice chapter cover. I can't complain. Need HQ and cleaned pic. NOW. Icon. Now. XD

mori
06-22-2007, 10:22 AM
thanks kittykat, its lookin good

especially that cover, like the duel nature. Grimmjaw aint the only jugulator xD

jdm6845
06-22-2007, 10:27 AM
Thanks, space ^_______^

Looks like there are some really nice action pics there. I can't wait until the raw come out and we can see the full versions. I love Kubo's art.

Oh, and the chapter cover is pretty nice too... XD

Slev
06-22-2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks spacecat.

Matching covers, heh. Well, it's very fitting to do that. I think I need sleep. I thought GJ was blocking Ichigo's sword with his hair for a second.

Annie
06-22-2007, 10:31 AM
Oh Ichigo o__o I can't complain about the covers since last week.

The pics look awesome. The fight shouldn't boring at all.

Thank you Space ^^

eurys
06-22-2007, 10:32 AM
Thanks space!
Those are some nice muscles for a 16 years old, Ichigo :p
And I love how GJ's posture can go from badass to silly in those pics XD

mori
06-22-2007, 10:35 AM
the one thing I don't like about the vaizaard mask is that it gives Ichigo such an implacable look, so much of manga is about facial expressions and with the mask on you can't see anything. Like the cover has that look of determination and resolve that I image he might have on that last page if we could see his face ><

Primera Espada
06-22-2007, 10:38 AM
I think maybe *that's* the real reason for the 11 seconds XD

So Kubo can get back to drawing Ichi's face.

Slev
06-22-2007, 10:42 AM
the one thing I don't like about the vaizaard mask is that it gives Ichigo such an implacable look, so much of manga is about facial expressions and with the mask on you can't see anything. Like the cover has that look of determination and resolve that I image he might have on that last page if we could see his face ><

I think this was kind of intended by KT. Sort of like showing Ichigo is losing part of his humanity (feelings, expressions) when he gives in and uses his hollow's strength.

Or KT is just lazy and doesn't want to draw Ichigo's face ;)

spacecat
06-22-2007, 10:42 AM
Hmm in the pic with both grim and ichi's face the visible text says: "the strongest cero" (last character covered by jojo logo) and in the GJ one he says madada...nothing fancy basically means "this is.." but thought I'd share anyways to further confirm the spoiler summaries.

edit: oops missed one with text, ichigo looking horrified, gj is saying "as for you shinigami" the rest is cut out or too blurry to make out sorry....yeh thanks jojo xD

Zangetsu01
06-22-2007, 11:05 AM
Thanks Spacecat...
The chapter cover is like last week, awesome, waiting for the HQ tonight^^, and of course next week:cool:

Riekie
06-22-2007, 11:08 AM
Ahh thanks alot for the pics Spacecat! I wuv 'em>.<

Is it me or does it look like Ichigo's mask is almost completely colored on the left side and thus making it seem like he has become stronger? So if his mask is fully colored..maybe that will be all he can achieve with it? gahh..I dunnoo..

mori
06-22-2007, 11:10 AM
Is it me or does it look like Ichigo's mask is almost completely colored on the left side and thus making it seem like he has become stronger?

his masks been looking like that for a while.

Riekie
06-22-2007, 11:12 AM
Gah...then I need to look that up again ^^'

I really thought that it had 'more coloring' now then the last time...

mori
06-22-2007, 11:20 AM
nah, its been fairly consistant since dordonii I think as someone brought it up back when he was fighting Ulqui and I checked then.

It doesn't necessarily mean its not a precursor to a power up though if the mask turns half and half, its undisputed that the black area on the mask has been growing throughout the series so we may well see it hit half and half at some point :3

Spike
06-22-2007, 11:48 AM
Thank you for the pics.

Nama
06-22-2007, 11:59 AM
Oh, a nice cover of Ichigo. I like it. ^_^

I knew Grimmjow wasn't a brainless monster. XD This fight seems interesting.

Also Grimmjow's postures = as cool as ever. <3 lol

Thank you for the spoiler pics. :)

NeoSapien
06-22-2007, 12:01 PM
Thanks for the pictures!

emoloz
06-22-2007, 12:18 PM
Seems like this battles going to span over a few chapters.

Shannon
06-22-2007, 12:23 PM
Wonder what happened to Orihime and Nell?

Mei
06-22-2007, 12:38 PM
299 guests, woah !!

I want to see Ichigo´s cover in HQ.
At best: now. Lol ^_^

Shannon
06-22-2007, 01:08 PM
^ 7 members and 343 guests

Oh wow. And I can't wait for this chapter: the fighting scenes look awesome.

dbssdb
06-22-2007, 01:27 PM
I want to see Ichigo´s cover in HQ.
Sure ^^ Here it is then: http://i11.tinypic.com/4kwmv54.jpg

Thanks for the translations spacecat!

spacecat
06-22-2007, 01:29 PM
Sure ^^ Here it is then: http://i11.tinypic.com/4kwmv54.jpg

Thanks for the translations spacecat!

No problems and thanks for the nicely cleaned high res pic! (Glad you found the new forum also :) )

mori
06-22-2007, 01:29 PM
damn dbssdb, I have no idea where you get them from but thats awesome

thanks as usual <3

Mei
06-22-2007, 01:32 PM
Why, Thank you!
That was quick!

Really nice, I must say! ^^

Well, Ichigo´s growing up, as one can absolutely say
by looking at his muscles! nyaa ^_^

Nocturne
06-22-2007, 01:44 PM
Yey, thanks for the pics spacecat and for the summary Annie! This chapter is looking great and we get half naked Ichigo, woo! XD That said, thanks for the high res pic of Ichigo, dbssdb!

Gintoki
06-22-2007, 01:56 PM
Wow, that Chapter surpasses even the last one. Thx for the pics Spacey. But next time i want the naked Female Chars on the Cover.

StarryInoueSky
06-22-2007, 02:05 PM
OH MY GOSH! Ichigo looks so hot! *excited* I really do hope this fight lasts a few chapters. *excited*

I'll be going to work happy!

ezxx
06-22-2007, 02:15 PM
lol that cover of Ichigo owns

darkdana666
06-22-2007, 02:16 PM
*drools* Ichigo cover looks much better then last week's Grimmjow cover.

mori
06-22-2007, 02:33 PM
Wow, that Chapter surpasses even the last one. Thx for the pics Spacey. But next time i want the naked Female Chars on the Cover.

we had that one with hime and rukia on it a while back =p

Frosted Heart
06-22-2007, 02:37 PM
Thanks for the HQ picture, dbssdb! Wow, Ichigo looks great in that cover (not as good as Grimmjow though ;)) but I feel kind of guilty, knowing he's supposed to be 16. :o *feels dirty*

The fights is shaping up to be something really interesting. I can't wait to see it in full. :)

Nama
06-22-2007, 02:40 PM
Ooh thanks for the cleaned cover, dbssdb! Muchos appreciatos! :D I've been wondering why Ichigo looks so much older than he's supposed to be. He looks so manly for his age lol.

I'm waiting for the raw now and looking forward to the next chapter. :)

Riekie
06-22-2007, 02:54 PM
yesh..thanks so much for the cleaned pic dbssdb:D *aah Ichigo looks good, equals with The Gurimm*

Can't wait to see and read this chapter.

darion