No turning back now... [SPOILERS]

[Velius]

Our Hero's have enter Las Noches. There is no turning back now. But why do this when the arc isn't even finished in the manga yet. At least they made the Bount arc last until the Arranacr arc was finished in the manga.

The main thing is we have No idea when the arc will be finished. So even if they take the slowest approach with the episodes, it's still very possible that they could catch up. Studio Pierrot is known for eating up chapters like crazy for fighting chapters with Bleach. Sometimes 4 or 5 chapters an episodes. And seeing how all the Las Noches' plot progression, yes what little there is some my argue, but I digress, happens in the constant back to back fights that make up the arc, something better change.

Ok, so then lets look at our options here. No way Bleach is going to go on hiatus. That's just not possible. Which leads to of course, fillers. From the last couple of episodes or so, it appears they are going to take a page out of D.Gray Man and delude the series by mixing filler and canon. That's all well and good, if done right. It seems that's is there only option for some reason....

It is my opinion that Bleach is getting the shaft, second to Naruto, with it's sub par animation, constant rushing through chapters, which leads to constant fillers, ect ect. Even the original Naruto series had better usage of chapters. Shippuuden has left me stunned recently on how well the chapter scenes have been executed and used. Using no fillers, they can still keep only using about 2 chapters per episode, by drawing out the chapters, well. Apparently, for some reason, they can't do that with Bleach. Or better, won't.

[Kolbertt]

Ever since I saw Las Noches invasion in the anime, the bizarre idea that Kubo told the Anime producers that the Hueco Mundo arc was about to finish got in my mind, hence no need for intermediate fillers... (One can only hope :))

But then again, there is this probability that in the middle of las Noches, a fourth privaron appears, a clip show in the middle of all the action, or they could actually drag the fights longer like they did with Dragon Ball Z... (remember those long minutes in which characters only looked at each other while energy flew around?)-

Never take away the probability of fillers. An extended fight with a totally dead character (like, Cirucci, Dordonni- Heck, even Aaroniero) is still possible.

Maybe the Anime studio took their chances, maybe Kubo advanced the plot a little for them (see Lulubelle from D.Gray-Man or Konjiki no Gash bell's ending) and they went with it.

A lot of probabilities, so the only thing we can do right now is watch Dordonni's fight and see how they approach with it.

[Velius]

But then again, there is this probability that in the middle of las Noches, a fourth privaron appears, a clip show in the middle of all the action, or they could actually drag the fights longer like they did with Dragon Ball Z... (remember those long minutes in which characters only looked at each other while energy flew around?)-
Also, I wouldn't be surprised by the OMGWTFBBQ return of Ashido. That guy deserved more. He gets 3 eps and Bount get 50. >.>

I am pretty sure most of us at this point would love longer draw out battles. And like I said, seeing as how it's nothing but fights coming up anyways, adding filler to battles are really the only choice. Or filler battles. Whatever.

[Rain]

Velius- you're right that Beach is getting the shaft when compared to naruto:(

maybe they'll do a good job of the las noches invasion arc :crazy

Bleach could do what One piece did a few months back, having one new ep every other week or so:eek: that would help them not catch up so fast, but the epsiodes overall just have to get better:cool:

[Miyona]

They could show Tatsuki, Keigo, and the others in town doing stuff without Ichigo around...

And some fillers with Yazu and Karin maybe?

[Slev]

Triumphant return of Don Kanoji incoming.

[Haineko]

I'd personally prefer an episode every other week at least for a temporary solution. I agree with Rain- I remember a stretch a while back when they did this, and the animation quality went up as well. I'm rather nervous about the idea of having fillers in battles or drawn-out battles. If they're done well, then sure why not. Just as long as they're not DBZ drawn-out to the point of utter dullness.

They could also introduce various filler villains to fight in between the Privaron and Espada, and I'm 100% sure they'll be extending flashbacks to full episodes (Rukia, Nel).

[Primera Espada]

szayel was made for fillers
we barely see ANYTHING he does.
he'll get plenty of fluffing action.

[AnimeGirlPan]

seems they won't finish this arc for another whole year...to me
but anyways..if they do show more fillers..they should be based upon whats going on in the human world

[Thantos-Espada]

personaly the bount arc was horrid, i though the whole section was one huge filler...


but anyway..



if the anime catched up with the manga i doubt its really a problem...


i like the idea that our heros from the anime are finally on the assult

though from the lastest episode at

www.videobleach.com

it looks like ichi could be in with a suprise

[cheez]

I am most concerned with them keeping the animation good, the episodes interesting, and bringing back the same amount of blood that was in the SS arc. If they do those three things then they can add as much filler as they want and I'll be happy.
I did not mind the Bount arc that much, mainly because I thought that when they returned to the manga that the quality would increase to SS status again, so I was really dissapointed after the bount arc finished and the cannon episodes were not much better than the bount.
Sadly I don't think the Bleach producers care what I think, so chances are that nothing will change :(

[RyougaSaotome]

Naruto hasn't been solid in a long time. Shippuden in my opinion just keeps going further into crapdom IMO.

Bleach is a bit better about I think, but nowhere near as good as One Piece when it comes to filler or pacing. One piece maintained a one chapter an episode pace for over fifty episodes, and somehow managed to keep both the quality of animation, and the overall quality up no problem.

[Kolbertt]

Ahh but then be must agree that One Piece has a much more "Simple" animation style. Kubo works with almost real human proportions, while Oda tends to be more childish or cartoonish- Hence, it's easier to mantain the original quality in One Piece, they have to watch for plot holes though.


But as Prim said, there is a lot of potential hidden in Szayel; and it's not just my inner fanboy speaking, most of his actions went unseen.

I don't really mind the fillers. I mean, I don't mind them if they are at least decently well written, NO plotholes, and do not end up being too ridiculous (I'm seeing at you, cake filler episodes...).

[RyougaSaotome]

Proportions are odd, I'll give you that, but take Luffy vs Lucchi for instance in the Anime. The fight is spread out through five or so episodes, (Each a chapter), but the animation quality is maintained, and so is the pace.

A lot of the problems themselves, pacing wise in Bleach, stems from pacing problems that exist in the manga. This arc for instance has been terribly off kilter as far as pacing is concerned, and no doubt that's going to make it a lot more difficult for the animation crew to slow things down.

[Sarada]

For me, the anime hasn't been enjoyable ever since Byakuya's fight. Something changed back then, and the eposides mostly have been dissapointing, either in drawing quality or the way they adapted the manga ( wich had awesome scenes) to the anime. Those animators really have no clue on wether it looks good, they just seem to try and stretch stupid stuff, like Yoruichi eating for 10 minutes, and they rush scenes where Ichigo makes his big attack against Grimm.

About the quality ... it often looks like they have serious trouble with Kubo's style, especially with the new characters ( when has Ulquiorra looked like he should look? ).

I hope Kubo whispered in their ear that the arc is gonna be over soon, that way they don't have to endlessly stretch it.

And I don't think too highly about Shipuuden, the pacing is really slow, we've had something like 30 eps, and all they've done is the first small arc with Gaara. We're all gonna be retired to get to all the cool stuff that's been happening. Plus, drawing seems to have the same problem as Bleach, inability to be consistant in the art, and trying to make that up with fancy backgrounds and 3d like movements.

[Velius]

I think I agree with the Szayel angle mentioned. They are going to continue to put filler in there somewhere, they have no choice. We don't know exactly when the arc will end, so they will try and get as much as they can from each episode.

People will disagree with their opinions about the difference between Bleach and Naruto, in terms of pacing, animation, ect. But I do believe it is very clear, no matter what you think the end result to be, that Bleach is taking a back seat to Naruto in terms of which gets more priority of how each individual series is handled.

[Rain]

Velius- yea, I agree,

naruto is being handled better, making it more poular and thus they have more money to handle things better:eek:

to seem somewhat optimistic, it is possible that the anime crew will be able to fix some of the pacing problems that affected the manga recently. Th biggest problem was that Kubo used Szayel for the secondary story but kept advanced thwe first without settling it.

All the anime has to do is slightly rearrange when certain things happen to Szayel

take a break after Ishida tries to blow him up, after the ceiling falls on him etc...