Naruto 624 Spoilers & Discussion

[Scarlet Fire]

Naruto 624 - Aiko
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/36848288/1

So, this flashback seems to be a long one, and I think its chapters are the best ones of this year (so far ^^)... It was interesting to see that Madara, while having been exacerbated by the losses of the war, and claiming that he doesn't believe in their old dream anymore, seems to desire, somewhere deep in his heart, to restore peace and balance... at least, that was how I saw his request for Tobirama's or Hashirama's life...

...what do you think of the chapter?

[SoulOfTheNight]

Hashirama's flashback has been interesting, I've enjoyed the past few chapters. Good break from the war that seems to be dragging -.-
Is it just me or is Tobirama a little bit of a jerk :/ He's sort of the odd hokage out when you compare their personalities

[Cross]

Hashirama's flashback has been interesting, I've enjoyed the past few chapters. Good break from the war that seems to be dragging -.-
Is it just me or is Tobirama a little bit of a jerk :/ He's sort of the odd hokage out when you compare their personalities

Tobirama is all about efficiency and effectiveness . For him, everyone should respect & follow the rules without a hint of doubt in their actions cause that's whatis best for them - if everyone obeys the moral code and strict set of rules then no one will get hurt. That's apparently his solution for the situation he and his brothers were put in during the days of Senju vs. Uchiha War. He is completely different from Hashirama in that aspect, though we can't say he is a entirely bad person - yeah, to me he seems like a jerk, but I understand his actions are for the greater good.

But , on the other hand , how much can you do until someone who isn't pleased at all with what you have done shows up? The Second created the Uchiha Police - it looked like a wise decision, but he failed to notice that the clan wasn't satisfied with how it was treated, which led to them planning a cou. And we all know too well how that ended, don't we?

[Sen]

^ I agree with the first part. Tobirama is something of a realist.
What differentiates him from the other Hokage in terms of personality is his blunt nature, he says things as it is, without sugar-coating, whereas the other Hokage are rather more forgiving and tolerant.

However, the coup wasn't because of his actions. If the Kyuubi attack didn't take place, the upper echelon of Konoha would not have suspected the Uchiha, as a result, the coup would not have been planned. The culprit in this case, who drove a wedge between the two parties is none other than Obito (and I guess Madara since he is the mastermind), furthermore, there is another person to blame here, who pushed through for the massacre and manipulated the outcome to his liking, Danzou.


The political climate Tobirama created had detrimental effects on the village in the long run, that is indeed true, but the blame partly lies on the Shinobi of the village and on the Uchiha who were part of the Police Force too. His goal was to kill hit two birds with one stone.


He gave the Uchiha a duty they could excel at.
To control them (to promptly deal with another Madara, in case it happens).


Considering his opinion regarding the Uchiha, the first point shows that he is a capable leader that was willing to make good use of the Uchiha by channelling their emotional-reliant strength (hatred transformation) for the sake of protecting the village. At the same time, he wanted to protect the village from the same people who were protecting them, in case things went wrong, which is why he placed them at the outskirts. His plan was practical, but of course not exactly fair for the Uchiha.
There is another factor which played a part in drifting away the Konoha villagers and the Uchiha. As Orochimaru mentioned, the people of the village disliked the Uchiha for occupying such position of authority, and as the enforcers of law, they tended to become conceited.


The balance of Konoha leaders was rather interesting. The founder was a caring and charismatic individual which lead to the village flourishing, the 2nd was a bold and an able administrator who established the organizational structures that the village use to this day, the third was diplomatic in nature and an admirable shinobi who inspired the shinobi of the future generations just like the founder. Though it's a shame we don't much about Minato's reign aside from his heroic end.



It would be interesting if Edo Tensei (Izuna's revival) would be the answer for Madara's request.

[Phantomfork]

The flashbacks have been ok, not my favorite thing to be honest. I do wish he'd hurry up and get back to the war though. I know he's going somewhere with this but after looking up the wiki, it seems as though the vast majority of their history has been discussed already. But it's necessary for Kishi to explain everything that happened since Madara is behind all of this.