Lack of Violence since the Soul Society arc?

[cool_inuyasha_g]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a lack of violence in the Japanese version of Bleach since the soul society arc finished and Bleach came to America? I mean they pretty much cut out all blood in episodes 117-121 and turned it into something that looks like a burn or dried up blood, cut out Ururu getting skewered and editted Luppi's death so bad that they didn't even so Grimmjow's hand coming out the other end? Anyone know whats up?

[Riekie]

It's because of the timeslot and has nothing to do with America...they will do their own cutting/censoring.

It is aired, I believe at 8 so that's Primetime and alot of 'little' children can watch the show...thus leaving blood out:(

It sucks I know..but perhaps the dvd's will have the uncut version? One can only hope;)

[Syn]

Yes, it was at that time that the airing diffusion changed and that blood became magically sweat or drool XD

Mmh, sexy >__>

[Rain]

maybe the Dvd's will be uncut, it has happened with other series before (aired editied but released uncut) *crosses fingers*

and although it sucks that so much gets edited out, at least it isn't anything important to the plot that is being removed.

[Velius]

It doesn't really have to do with anything of it's timeslot. The change from after the SS are, was only an hour difference. It has more to do with the fact that bleach is now a super mega hit and must be ok to be watched by people of all ages. The way things were going in the SS arc, that was not the case.

[twsl]

i agree with what veli said and besides that, i don't really mind at all. making it watchable for all kind of ages means that (hopefully) more people will watch it, which means a bigger popularity which means more merchandisestuff and stuff =DDD ne?^^

[ToushirouSpec]

Although i miss the blood and gore, i have to agree twsl. wider fan base means more merch and all sorts of great stuff. w00t! meh..plus like other said im sure the dvd's will have uncut versions.

[Velius]

Aren't uncut versions just the way they were on the orginal japanese broadcast/dvds? If there wasn't any in the original, I don't think any uncut version, even japanese, would have extra blood in them. Or, I have no idea what I am talking about.

[Rain]

Velius- I have no idea how common it is, but some of the broadcasted episode may get censored. Gantz was considered to adult for TV but the DVD's were released uncut, and had alot more violence, blood, nudity, all that stuff.

[Velius]

I have heard of that happening before. Other things like blood being darking, which did happen in bleach. Something the blood was gone altogether. But there wasn't any actually "censoring" in bleach, like blurred spots. The way they aired, was the way they were. I wouldn't think any kind of dvd release would be any different.

[Rain]

Censored may be a bad choice of words on my part.

Actual parts of an episode have been cut out of other anime during the original japanese broadcast, and added back to the DVD's. I highly doubt this would have happened to a series like bleach (so posting this may be semi-pointless:D) but it has happened.

[Shinrin]

meh, this is why i hate when it become all money.

The point of an anime must be to make a better version of the manga couterpart, not making something that the prime fans likely shakes there heads at.

This is why i only want my fav series to be somewhat popular, I hate when it get changed to fit the majority... Corse fitting the majority takes away whats unique -_-


Well there were still censorship in SS though it was better then what we have now, it was just stuff like when Aizen's zanpaktou impaled Hinamori.


hmm... actually the aim for the majority... might that be why so many of the later op & ed songs have been less to my liking.

[TheItalianStallion]

I thought you were talking about the manga and thought I must step in but clearly you mean the anime? Yes the voilence has been majorly toned down which only makes the fight scenes seem a little pathetic at times. I hope they at least bring back blood over the spit lol

[Shintaro]

Bleach needs more fight scenes and less dialodge.

[cool_inuyasha_g]

Well, it'll it will be incredibly hard to edit out the fights with Syazel or the 9th espada guy. I mean the whole point of Zael's attack is the blood he pours out of body to make clones. What are they going do, change it into water. As for the 9th Espada, I get the feeling that they aren't going keep his gruesome look, they'll probably replace it with water or green slime..or something.

[Ametatsu]

bbbbbbut unrealistic amounts of blood spurting all over the place is half the point of shonen anime!

*should not be posting at 1am, is hyperoid*

[ForteAnly]

If you mean the anime then yes. I remember the good old days when there was actually blood not a bunch of saliva spewing out from there mouths.:cry

[RyougaSaotome]

Adding stuff into DVD releases is not unheard of.

In fact, many shows have small sections redrawn for the dvd (though not advertised), because animators were unhappy with the first version.

Gurren Lagann immediately comes to mind.

[cheez]

For me the blood is the most exciting part of the fight because it is the best way to show bodily damage. What is worse is that anime no longer shows flesh wounds it just shows dark coloration where the damage is, like the person just rolled around in dirt. The lack of blood has really brought down a lot of the excitement in the fights for me. The best example of lack of blood bring down the fight was Ikkaku vs. Edrad, in the manga before he release his bankai he had blood dripping down and looked to be in a desperate situation, where in the anime he looked like he rolled in some dirt with his shirt off.

[vaizado]

Does anyone here own the DVDs to see if they are uncut?

Im assuming they are and they show more blood and such. I mean, take a look at episode 114. When Orihime gets hit by Yammy, there's this shot:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6084/sacj3.png

I find it hard to believe the animation team meant to create a shot showing nothing but saliva. That shot was meant to be there to show the damage on Orihime, and I doubt the anime team went and said "So how do we show Orihime is badly hurt? Hey about a shot of some good ol' saliva!"

Im thinking that was originally blood, but was changed for the broadcast version. And Im thinkin the other scenes where there is a lot of censorship, were changed from the original version. And those original versions are probably on the DVDs as uncut.

But I could be wrong.

BTW, there are some scenes where red blood is shown on the "new" episodes. On episode 118, when we first see Ikkaku with Bankai, and episode 140, with Grimmjow looking down on Ichigo. But the red blood is shown for just one shot, by the next one, they are changed to scratches. Wth is up with that? o_O

[ForteAnly]

I own a majority of the Bleach R2 DVD's icluding the Arrancar Arc and so far from what I've seen is no blood just saliva from the mouth. In the latest release for the Bonus DVD it does include a bonus DVD that has the fights from the Arrancar Arc with different music instead of the one they used. Such as some of the great classic's that made Bleach so great instead of that Bounto music they keep reusing.

[vaizado]

Hmm, I guess even the DVDs lack blood huh? Well that sucks.

Different music? You should upload some scenes! ><

[Ulquiorra]

i was about to flip and go "lack of violence? What manga are YOU readiing??"

but then i saw the specifics for the episode numbers and such

anyways, yeah, timeslot and all. Kids.

[Thantos-Espada]

it is kind of depressing that the violence has been toned down, but for all we know younger veiwers have begun watching the anime and parents are complaing due to the blood, (its unlikly though).

but i can concure the lack of fight scenes and violence compared to the first arc is naff.

now its mainly about powers and spirit power.


if a cero where to hit ichigo he'd proberly come out the other side badly burnt or slightly bleeding...

yet if ichigo was impaled on a weapon or somthing simalar without using powers it would be more bloody.

so it could be that the powers in the anime are get stupidly out of control and the designers are making them to strong.

it worrys me the way they jumped from the bount arc to the arrancar/HM arc in a matter of episodes and the only thing ichigo has gained is his mask.

as witch when he went to the SS for the first time it took for ever for him to train to a high enough standard...


so maybe they where rushing and now theres not need to rush, their slowing things down and the violence has along with it been turned down a notch to make the anime and manga last slgihtly longer.

[jiang]

I certainly noticed the blood (when there IS blood) has taken on a blackish, brownish, redish colour and in no way resembles blood...

D: I can understand that with Arrancar, Esparda and general Hollows (I mean they have no hearts so maybe black blood?)

But I can't understand it with anyone that should bleed red! Japanese Kids aren't stupid! They know cuts bleed red!! D:

[Soranushi]

Well at least the Blood is back now and about its darker color its more realistic then it used to be considering how much comes out of the Characters wounds.
I got cut when I was little when I tripped and fell on a rock and the blood was Dark Red not Bright Red because it was a lot of blood not a little bit. And the saliva thing from when Orihime got backhanded by Yammi was never really shown in the the manga but what she looked like afterwards was gruesome so I think that was okay to take out but Ichigo's blood removal wasn't needed though. Also the Black scratches looked like blood except it was more like the Manga blood since theres no color in manga so thats what they did to keep it in the show plus they were far away when we saw the blood on them sometimes but still it didn't need to be changed that much.

And the Ikkaku part it was Night Time remember so its not really possible to see blood in the dark if you think about it realistically

[Velius]

I think that the studio realized (probably from people like us in japan letting them know) that they were overkilling the censorship. Makes sense with a lot more blood being used, then at the start of the arrancar arc.

[halfbreed]

So is the dvd version the same as the broadcast, or are there some changes?

[cool_inuyasha_g]

Well, how about when it comes to Syazel's fight? (I'm just glad they didn't turn Aa..uh Hollow that ate Kaien's head into a jar of slime or water) They would never be able to edit or fix that to make it apprioate for children? I'm not talking about the huge amounts fo blood that come gushing out of the characters or Syazel's bird, blood release. I mean the otehr stuff he does, like eating his people and making Nemu pregent, thats apprioate for children, several people reading the manga were grossed out at both of those scenarios so if they are editing it to make it more child apprioate then they outta just remove Zael from the show.

[Bleu]

GOD NO.

SS arc was all backstories and some fighting, and trying to avoid captians.
the only *major* fights were byakuya/ichigo, renji/ichigo, byakuya/renji, hitsugaya/gin, kenpachi/tousen/konamura, and the early ones like ikkaku/ichigo and ganju/yumichika. add some if i missed, i wouldnt really call aizen/hitsugaya a fight, it was pretty onesided.

But, here we have rukia/"kaien", grimmjow/ichigo x 3, byakuya/the great pumpkin, mayuri/szayel, ulquiorra/ichigo, luppi/hitsugaya, ishida/cirucci, renji/Il forte, chad/ disco fro, ishida/renji/szayel, and alot more.

this is byfar the arc with the most violence.

butttt.. in america violence is taken differently.