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spacecat
09-11-2007, 12:16 PM
Post all things relating to the chapter here and they will be put in the first post. I know there are a few spoilers around but those are fake so let's wait for some confirmed one's ok (yeah i know about that brother&sister thing on 2ch claiming nell and nnoitra are siblings but someone has posted a summary with a title for the last few weeks all fake and i am pretty sure its the same guy so im thinking for now its too unreliable to bother with, not to mention if that's true its so hella lame). :)

Bleach 291 by Franky House (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258)

Japanese Raw:

bleach 291 raw

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CN3JJ3SM

Posted by spacecat:

Jojo HQ Chinese scanlation for those who want it:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/12pq7o
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MKLZI4TF

Jojo mini:

Not much worth translating from what is clear to me, just random Cero!? Nel!! Swearing on Nnoitra's behalf. In the pic where Nel is looking back she says "I will/let's finish this".


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Posted by Annie:

Bleach 291- Thank You For Defend Me

The chapter begins with Nel who has changed back to her real form. Now her reiatsu is so high that both Dondo and Pesshe notice it. They look at each other and that makes Ishida asked Pesshe what is wrong but he ignores Ishida and keeps looking at Nel’s direction. Pesshe’s eye glows and he mumbles as if he’s thinking about something, “I miss this….this reiatsu. There is no mistake, this is ‘Nel-sama’s’ reiatsu.

Scene cuts back to Ichigo and Orihime who are looking stunted at Nel but Nnoitora and Tesla look as if nothing happen. Nnitora let go of Ichigo and stares at Nel, “You’re back, Neliel?” But she doesn’t reply and instantly moves behind Nnoitora. Before he could do anything she disappears again however this time behind Nnoitota, he sees Nel holding Ichigo in her arms and that pisses Nnoitora off.

Ichigo asks her if she’s really Nel. She looks at him and smiles, “Yes. Because of Ichigo I could return to my real body…because Ichigo protects me in my child form and brings me here.” She continues, “So, you have to watch. I’ll repay you now.” Nel lays Ichigo down gently and stands up with zampakouto in her hand. Ichigo protests when he realizes that she’s going to fight Nnoitora. Nel looks back at him and smiles shyly before replies, “Don’t worry.”

The wind blows and her back is shown to Ichigo with a tattoo #3 on it. Ichigo looks surprised while Nel looks at him and continues to say, “It will be over soon.”

Now Nel turns her attention to Nnoitora and dashes out. Before Nnoitora could react she cuts his chest and it angers him. He throws the scythe at her but she kicks it and it makes Nnoitora lost his balance. Instantly, Nel kicks Nnitora’s neck and he falls. After regain his balance, Nnoitora opens his mouth to shoot cero at her. Once he did, Nel only need a hand to block his cero and opens her mouth to swallow a cero (like she did with Deldonii’s). Nnoitora freaks out, “Shi…” and before he could finish a word; Nel spews out a cero right back at him.

Note: In this Chapter, Nel doesn't talk like a child anymore.


Posted by mori:
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spacecat: The person who posted the pic added these quotes with it though I do not see them on the page so they may be just a joke? If they are true I think Nell wants him as a pet or something haha.

ネル「いちごは私のものよ!!」
Nell “Ichigo is mine!!”

一護「な・・・ネル!?」
Ichigo “This is…Nell!?”

ネル「いちごはネルの!!」
Nell “Ichigo is Nells!!”

Posted by spacecat:
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Not sure if this is just a bigger blown up version of the last one Yan posted but they posted this also.

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Posted by Yanniv:
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Posted by spacecat:

Rough trans, i'll go over and check it again so will update with any changes, feel free to make corrections.

もうすこし詳しく書くとですね
okay I will do it a bit more in detail then

ペッシェ達がまずネルの霊圧を感じる
Firstly Pesce can sense the reiatsu of Nell
「この霊圧は・・・紛れもないネル様の・・・」
”This reiatsu…make no mistake it is Nell sama's”
で、変化したネルに苺もおっぱおもびっくり
Ichigo is obviously amazed by Nell’s sudden change
瞬時でノイトラの背後に回り苺を抱きかかえます
At the moment Nnoitra has his back to Ichigo
ネル「大丈夫・・・すぐ終わるから」(ここで3番と分かる)
Nell “Okay…let’s finish” (you realize it's 3rd)
しばらくネルとノイトラ大先生の戦い
Nell and Nnoitra begin an all out battle
ノイトラ大先生虚閃吐きますが、ネル飲み込んで逆に返します
Nnoitra uses the large cero and Nell swallows it and sends it back at him
ズ・・・ン・・・
Dewm (whatever sound affect)
おわり
end

First one says (really rough and unsure about it cos of how he wrote it):

ネルネルネルネは「3」番です
NellNellNell (3) number
ノイトラ先生を圧倒
Nnoitra sensei is overpowered
ノイトラ先生作品中初めて汗をかく
Nnoitra sensei is made to sweat for the first time
お わ り
end

By Himajin:

ネルネルネルネは「3」番です
ノイトラ先生を圧倒

ノイトラ先生作品中初めて汗をかく

お わ り

Bigger one by Himajin:

もうすこし詳しく書くとですね
okay I will do it a bit more in detail then

ペッシェ達がまずネルの霊圧を感じる
「この霊圧は・・・紛れもないネル様の・・・」

で、変化したネルに苺もおっぱおもびっくり
瞬時でノイトラの背後に回り苺を抱きかかえます

ネル「大丈夫・・・すぐ終わるから」(ここで3番と分かる)

しばらくネルとノイトラ大先生の戦い
ノイトラ大先生虚閃吐きますが、ネル飲み込んで逆に返します

ズ・・・ン・・・

おわり

spacecat
09-12-2007, 11:52 AM
Bump: By Himajin:

ネルネルネルネは「3」番です
ノイトラ先生を圧倒

ノイトラ先生作品中初めて汗をかく

お わ り

Bigger one by Himajin:

もうすこし詳しく書くとですね
okay I will do it a bit more in detail then

ペッシェ達がまずネルの霊圧を感じる
「この霊圧は・・・紛れもないネル様の・・・」

で、変化したネルに苺もおっぱおもびっくり
瞬時でノイトラの背後に回り苺を抱きかかえます

ネル「大丈夫・・・すぐ終わるから」(ここで3番と分かる)

しばらくネルとノイトラ大先生の戦い
ノイトラ大先生虚閃吐きますが、ネル飲み込んで逆に返します

ズ・・・ン・・・

おわり

NeoSapien
09-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Nel was the 3rd Espada?

spacecat
09-12-2007, 12:06 PM
First one says (really rough and unsure about it cos of how he wrote it):

ネルネルネルネは「3」番です
NellNellNell (3) number
ノイトラ先生を圧倒
Nnoitra sensei is overpowered
ノイトラ先生作品中初めて汗をかく
Nnoitra sensei is made to sweat for the first time
お わ り
end

Syn
09-12-2007, 12:09 PM
Nel uses Naruto's jutsu and multiply in 3? XD
Anyway thanks for the spoiler space <3

imamess
09-12-2007, 12:24 PM
I think I remember a spolier before that used ネルネルネルネ during the Grimmjaw fight. I just remember laughing at the neru-neru-neru. Not totally sure, though.

Dascu
09-12-2007, 12:27 PM
So, Nel's going to fight Nnoitra? I wonder if Nnoitra (and Nel) will release during this fight.

spacecat
09-12-2007, 12:29 PM
Rough trans, i'll go over and check it again so will update in first post with any changes, feel free to make corrections.

もうすこし詳しく書くとですね
okay I will do it a bit more in detail then

ペッシェ達がまずネルの霊圧を感じる
Firstly Pesce can sense the reiatsu of Nell
「この霊圧は・・・紛れもないネル様の・・・」
”This reiatsu…make no mistake it is Nell sama's”
で、変化したネルに苺もおっぱおもびっくり
Ichigo is obviously amazed by Nell’s sudden change
瞬時でノイトラの背後に回り苺を抱きかかえます
At the moment Nnoitra has his back to Ichigo
ネル「大丈夫・・・すぐ終わるから」(ここで3番と分かる)
Nell “Okay…let’s finish” (you realize it's 3rd)
しばらくネルとノイトラ大先生の戦い
Nell and Nnoitra begin an all out battle
ノイトラ大先生虚閃吐きますが、ネル飲み込んで逆に返します
Nnoitra uses the large cero and Nell swallows it and sends it back at him
ズ・・・ン・・・
Dewm (whatever sound affect)
おわり
end

Zangetsu01
09-12-2007, 12:36 PM
Thanks for the translation Space-Sama^^
So, same thing as the Dorudonii Fight, but in bigger mode...:headscratch

yellowdot
09-12-2007, 12:42 PM
Thank you Spacecat! This looks good. I'm glad Nel is still swallowing ceros! Hopefully she'll retain her personality as well. It should be an interesting fight.

Also, can't wait to see Ichigo's face.

Mei
09-12-2007, 12:45 PM
Mhm, don´t know if this could mean for Ichigo and Orihime to leave the battle ground and finally head to Rukia and Chad to heal them eventually... :/
Ichigo surely won´t leave Nel´s side, and he´d first have to free Hime from Tesla´s grip, but that must be no prob for him. It´s actually THE opportunity for Ichigo to finally move on; if Nel really was a former 3rd Espada she should have no probs with Nnoitra... .__. (well, I don´t really expect much though....)

Thank you space for the spoilers! =)

NeoSapien
09-12-2007, 12:53 PM
Thanks for the spoilers and translation!

I expect that the battle will conclude next chapter with Nnoitra and Tesla retreating in some fashion. Otherwise Nnoitra will be forced to release, which would extend the battle much more and probably lead to Nnoitra's total defeat; also, Nel would probably end up showing too much of her power. The next two chapters should end the battle, allow Ichigo and co. to escape and head towards the wounded, and switch back to the end of the Szayeloporro fight.

Lilium
09-12-2007, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the spoilers spacey. :hug :inlove

Hou...Nel and Noitra fight. That should be interesting. Former no.3. I agree, now would be the perfect time for ichigo to grab orihime and escape, but knowing ichigo, he might not want to leave Nell behind, unless Nell asked him to.

DeDaL
09-12-2007, 12:58 PM
Well, that's a start... A pretty slow one though...

Thank you, spacey ~^__^~

Nocturne
09-12-2007, 01:39 PM
Thanks for the spoiler translation, space!!! #3! #3! #3! Super excited about this development now. Here I was thinking Nel was just the former #5, but to be two ranks higher is even sweeter! Yes, this time we get to see Nnoitora's ass handed to him. Oh joy! :yay

cassoult
09-12-2007, 01:41 PM
Given how beaten up Ichigo is, unless Orihime somehow breaks loose from Tesla (because he's too focused on Nnoitra-sama maybe?), I don't see how they'd be able to leave during the Nel/Nnoitra fight. And just when Nel is on the verge of winning is when Halibel will turn up...

Thanks for the spoilers, space.

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 01:46 PM
Disappointing. Nnoitra doing someonthing like a cero to Nel who shows a propensity for eating big blasts.

avidlinuxuser
09-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Nel-sama is so awesome. Hopefully, she ends this battle quickly and shows Nnoitra what's up. I knew Nnoitra only got Nel because he hit her from behind. >< At any rate, more Nel in the manga, adult or not, is always good. :yay

NeoSapien
09-12-2007, 02:17 PM
Given how beaten up Ichigo is, unless Orihime somehow breaks loose from Tesla (because he's too focused on Nnoitra-sama maybe?), I don't see how they'd be able to leave during the Nel/Nnoitra fight. And just when Nel is on the verge of winning is when Halibel will turn up...

I'm sure that Ichigo has no intention of leaving while Nel is still fighting. Fortunately, I doubt that the battle will last much longer as Nel has a clear advantage since she was the Tercera Espada. Also, Halibel is probably only the Septima Espada, as it seems unlikely that two females occupied the top four ranks; Halibel being seventh would explain why she hasn't intervened at all.

debbiechan
09-12-2007, 02:43 PM
*dances around like boxer Grimmjow and punches the air* WOOO NELL! YOU GIVE IT TO HIM BABY!
Damn it Ichigo, kick Tesla over like a weed and get the hell out of there!

I can't believe the Szayel fight is still dragging on...

*GLOMPS SPACEY IN APPRECIATION FOR SPOILER* I'm dying to see Nel in action.

WatanukiXXX
09-12-2007, 02:45 PM
If Nell really is the former Third Espada then wow! Nnoitra has almost no chance of victory here unless he uses the same underhanded tactics as before.

It's possible that he was her fraccione and defeating her in combat (or attacking her from behind while she was distracted) elevated him to fifth.

This is gonna be fun...seeing an Espada piss in their pants :lmao

Lucia
09-12-2007, 02:45 PM
@Spacecat: Thanks for the spoiler/translation! :)

:eek: woah, Nel was the former espada #3? That's cool! :cool: ...Glad that spoiler with Nel and Nnoitra being siblings is fake. Though it did sound interesting, I can't really picture those two being related, lol XD

ForteAnly
09-12-2007, 02:51 PM
If Nel was the third Espada it still doesn't mean she could beat Nnoitra she still was a former Espada but hopefully she does kick that backstabbing Nnoitra's ass.

.access timeco.
09-12-2007, 02:58 PM
NO! Another cool looking "omg, look how great that unoriginal character is" character? NO! Specially Nel.
I know KT has an urge to make as much characters he can using this lame old formula - obviously 'cause those characters become incredibly popular despite existing tons of them in each series -, but I really hope this doesn't happens with Nel :( she deserves more.


Thanks for the spoiler and translation, spacecat, but I will be praying to be a fake XP

Riekie
09-12-2007, 03:00 PM
Ahh thanks so much dear for providing us these spoilers and translations again:glomp

hmm....I dunno what to say..

spacecat
09-12-2007, 03:10 PM
Well it does seem to say Nell was 3 but I can't tell for sure with Hima's spoiler so meh if you look how I worded it, i didn't confirm it so no blaming me if it's not how it is. :p

Anyhow I am compiling a list of how Ichigo and gang could have easily snuck in, dealt with the espada, saved Inoue and left with ease, so far I have:

1. Get a few of those cube things that send a hollow to another dimension, you know like what Grim used on Ulq.

2. Walk up behind a strong ranked espada and crack them on the back of the head when they aren't looking/sleeping or whatever.

The list may or may not continue the sarcasm definitely will :p

edit: Oh and if the genius is from here that keeps posting my translations etc on 2ch, I'm flattered but can you not kthnx.

Riekie
09-12-2007, 03:12 PM
hahaha and I think I will join you with the Sarcasm space:D

Sarcasm IS my homie y'know:D

AnimeGirlPan
09-12-2007, 03:14 PM
wow thanks for the spoilers thingy so far spacecat
I'm gonna cheer on for Nell cause she gonna kick some butt for payback time ^^
im glad ichigo sees her new change as it says too ^^

juunana
09-12-2007, 03:21 PM
LMAO space if only Ichigo had your smarts xD

Thanks for spoilers etc.:)

Riekie
09-12-2007, 03:24 PM
Erm...I don't think it's a matter of smarts Juu...has he the balls you say? I think not:D hahaha he's too sweetxD

D.End
09-12-2007, 03:32 PM
he hasn't both Riekie :p

thanks Space

Lastier
09-12-2007, 03:48 PM
1. Get a few of those cube things that send a hollow to another dimension, you know like what Grim used on Ulq.

2. Walk up behind a strong ranked espada and crack them on the back of the head when they aren't looking/sleeping or whatever.

3. Destroying / Ripping their clothes off = Instant retreating Espada

Jasse
09-12-2007, 04:12 PM
Dondokachka warns us if Nell transforms, then Pesshe notices that Nell does transform. Is this drama all that necessary?:D

Pollux
09-12-2007, 04:20 PM
Dondokachka warns us if Nell transforms, then Pesshe notices that Nell does transform. Is this drama all that necessary?
What ? Nell transformed ? ! (may my sense of humor RIP)
Seriously, thanks for the summaries and the translations.
I'm still wondering if Nell is fighting to protect Ichigo (which would mean she has kept her memories) or only to get revenge on Noinoi.

ezxx
09-12-2007, 04:21 PM
thanks for the spoilers Space ^_^

I wonder if Nell is #3...:o

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 04:26 PM
Enjoy your candy, I'll just wait for the raw to confirm my sadness. Villain status dropping....

BigBadBuu
09-12-2007, 04:35 PM
@Agmaster: eh?

@Spacecat: Thanks for bringing this to us again and again!

...

Don't know how cool I am with adult Nel swallowing a Cero-- then again, KT *could* make it look interesting..

~Buu

FireCandy
09-12-2007, 04:41 PM
Great day - 291 spoilers and 140 screencaps.
Thanks Spacecat.

TotalAbsolute
09-12-2007, 04:45 PM
wow interesting..... nell was number 3 until she got coldblooded ambushed by noi with improved stealth... so that means everyone below 3 was previously one rank higher than they currently are now (meaning ulqiurra use to be 5.. and Noi use to be 6 and so on.). At least thats what this means to me unless there was alot of replacements after nell left ..

anywayz thanks space for the awesome work you've done bringing this content to us.. mad props as always..

Air
09-12-2007, 05:00 PM
Thanks Spacecat

But wasn't Dordoni the former number 3?
Or was he just the third to became a Privaron?

If Nel was really #3, maybe Halibel is the new #3 :D
(all female fraccion, you know..)

Waiting for the spoiler to be confirmed..

Chill0
09-12-2007, 05:13 PM
Thanks Spacecat

But wasn't Dordoni the former number 3?
Or was he just the third to became a Privaron?

If Nel was really #3, maybe Halibel is the new #3 :D
(all female fraccion, you know..)

Waiting for the spoiler to be confirmed..

how this looks to me ... former espada =\= privavon espada

so to me she was made by aizen, but just hit on the head by that .. ass. how noitora speaks about her it sounds like she might actually be a match for him. with that thought and the encounters we saw with the privavon. if she was number 3 at one point she sertainly couldnt have been a priva for they are weak . when grim was kicked out 6 was replaced and no numbers were exchanged.

KurosakiNaruto
09-12-2007, 05:18 PM
Strange, If Noitora sneak attacked Nell from behind and defeated her with that level of trickery with her being #3 in the ranks then Shouldn't Noitora be #3 or was he already an Espada before he defeated Nell?

I'm a dense person so excuse me if I start to annoy with all the questions.

tari101190
09-12-2007, 05:20 PM
it never said doldonni was number 3...i think 103 just meant he's the 3rd (or 4th) espada to be demoted. even if he was 3 it would be in an espada group b4 this one...

anyway the chapter seems ok...sometimes whe n it comes to naruto and bleach chapters, one is always on top for me for a while...bleachh has been ontop for a good while now lol, but i guess naruto is back on top.

i only think this cos bleach has just had fights, full stop (and i LOVE fighting...). but the plot just isn't moving quick enough for me...anyway i still love bleach.

anyway nell being 3 is kinda cool...shes pretty powerfull then...wtf, wait a min i thought 1-4 espada were all vastolorde?
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8993/vastolordebu8.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vastolordebu8.jpg) http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7480/m7bleachch19716vv5.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m7bleachch19716vv5.jpg)
seriously come on, how could this not be ulquiorra?
this may mean nell is a vastolorde whihc is very cool...and weird.

Chill0
09-12-2007, 05:38 PM
Strange, If Noitora sneak attacked Nell from behind and defeated her with that level of trickery with her being #3 in the ranks then Shouldn't Noitora be #3 or was he already an Espada before he defeated Nell?

I'm a dense person so excuse me if I start to annoy with all the questions.

to me he was already 5th. nel was annoying 1 way or another. Probably strength wise, although it seems he hates woman (hallibel). Also nel can be pretty straight forward with her comments huh ^^.

if he wasnt an espada he should have been 3. but we cant presume you get to be espada just like captains do? if your weak it seems you just get replaced, if you get defeated you get replaced as well. so if he was an espada allready all he did was getting a spot free for another number 3.
it could mean why hes saying that all the top tiers didn't have to put their strenght to the test. we got one frustrating puppy here that does everything to get to his destination.

Nocturne
09-12-2007, 05:45 PM
to me he was already 5th. nel was annoying 1 way or another. Probably strength wise, although it seems he hates woman (hallibel). Also nel can be pretty straight forward with her comments huh ^^.
Maybe Nnoitora got upset at Nel for calling him a virgin. XD

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 05:53 PM
Wait...Was Nel number 3 or are there 3 Nels.......@_@
Spoiler pics will clear many things up XD
Thanks guys!

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 05:53 PM
@Agmaster: eh?


Nnoitra being blatantly weaker, afraid, and suddenly cliche dumb (throwing a cero when he knows how she fights) after all the work Kubo put into making him a good villain. It appears he is about to either lose, or run away. Thus tanking his villain status and making him little more than a joke.

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 05:55 PM
Nnoitra being blatantly weaker, afraid, and suddenly cliche dumb (throwing a cero when he knows how she fights) after all the work Kubo put into making him a good villain. It appears he is about to either lose, or run away. Thus tanking his villain status and making him little more than a joke.

You mean like how Grimmjow used counter-ceros and surprise attacks until he released and used head on attacks against Ichigo even though he KNEW how Ichigo fought?:rolleyes:
There must be a plotkai bug going around :p

AnimeGirlPan
09-12-2007, 06:00 PM
Nnoitora is gonna get his butt kicked down by Nel for hurting her "daddy ichigo" =D

twsl
09-12-2007, 06:44 PM
hahaha waiitttt a moment, is nell seriously thinking about going to fight with nnoitra having absolutely no clothes on? xDD she has a dirty mind :(

Llama
09-12-2007, 06:48 PM
You mean like how Grimmjow used counter-ceros and surprise attacks until he released and used head on attacks against Ichigo even though he KNEW how Ichigo fought?:rolleyes:
There must be a plotkai bug going around :p
It wasn't plotkai. Hollows rely on instincts. When a hollow becomes an Arrancar they seem to lose some of their instincts and gain more reason. Why is this? First of all they lose the mask which protects their naked instinct. Also it seems the hole on their chest moves after becoming Arrancar. Maybe signifying they have somewhat of a heart. And since they have unreleased form they don't use as much energy. So now they aren't always thinking about consuming people(losing instinct). Now when Grimmjow released he went back to his original form(except without the mask). Now he is consuming way more energy, which means he's going to get hungry faster and will have the mindset of kill kill kill, instead of,what is my next strategy? And in this process he's going to lose some reasoning and rely more on instincts now. So naturally he would fight differently released(With more instinct) then he would if he was fighting unreleased(With more reason).

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 06:58 PM
So what's Nnoitra's excuse then?

Also not a big deal, but why wasn't her reiatsu amount noticable? I mean if she is strong enough to do this, someone would atleast be like blah blah over 9000.

Llama
09-12-2007, 07:00 PM
I don't know. Maybe Nnoirtra's excuse will be plotkai. :p

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 07:01 PM
It wasn't plotkai. Hollows rely on instincts. When a hollow becomes an Arrancar they seem to lose some of their instincts and gain more reason. Why is this? First of all they lose the mask which protects their naked instinct. Also it seems the hole on their chest moves after becoming Arrancar. Maybe signifying they have somewhat of a heart. And since they have unreleased form they don't use as much energy. So now they aren't always thinking about consuming people(losing instinct). Now when Grimmjow released he went back to his original form(except without the mask). Now he is consuming way more energy, which means he's going to get hungry faster and will have the mindset of kill kill kill, instead of,what is my next strategy? And in this process he's going to lose some reasoning and rely more on instincts now. So naturally he would fight differently released(With more instinct) then he would if he was fighting unreleased(With more reason).

So you're saying when hollows get scared they get stupid and when they release they get strong AND stupid? I don't buy it. To survive hollows have to eat other hollows but if they wanna snack in the living world, they've gotta fight shinigami too. They learned how to fight so why should they forget it? And really....What IS Nnoitra's excuse?

Llama
09-12-2007, 07:10 PM
The chapter isn't even out. We'll have to wait on Nnoitra.

I never said when they get scared they get stupid. Though that actually makes sense. Since it's natural if you get scared/panicked you lose common sense. And I never said they got strong and stupid when they released. Nor did I say that they forget how to fight. They can't forget how to fight, that would be weird. I'm just saying they are using more of their instincts when they release. And since they lose more reason, they don't fight off these instincts. Is this a good or bad thing? Totally up to you, though it seems you already made up your mind and think it's a bad idea to fight with just instincts. Though one of the main points of this arc seems to be that Ichigo needs to rely more on his instincts. You don't have to buy it, but it's the truth.

chbimun
09-12-2007, 07:11 PM
hahaha waiitttt a moment, is nell seriously thinking about going to fight with nnoitra having absolutely no clothes on? xDD she has a dirty mind :(

She has clothes on! It's just torn. What we're mostly wondering if she's gonna pull a Britney and prance around with no pants flashing her ass and vajayjay to the audience.

Llama
09-12-2007, 07:26 PM
Also, you guys are assuming that Nnoitra and Nell fought a real fight. And so you think Nnoitra should remember all her moves. Though for all we know, the only thing Nnoitra might remember about Nell is her appearance and their so called fight was just Nnoitra walking up behind her and whacking her(She wouldn't see it coming since they are both on the same side). Which is why he wouldn't know any of her moves and why he fired the cero. And I hope he doesn't run, I want to stay as an awesome villain.

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 07:29 PM
The chapter isn't even out. We'll have to wait on Nnoitra.

I never said when they get scared they get stupid. Though that actually makes sense. Since it's natural if you get scared/panicked you lose common sense. And I never said they got strong and stupid when they released. Nor did I say that they forget how to fight. They can't forget how to fight, that would be weird. I'm just saying they are using more of their instincts when they release. And since they lose more reason, they don't fight off these instincts. Is this a good or bad thing? Totally up to you, though it seems you already made up your mind and think it's a bad idea to fight with just instincts. Though one of the main points of this arc seems to be that Ichigo needs to rely more on his instincts. You don't have to buy it, but it's the truth.

See, that may make sense if it weren't for the fact that Grimm seemed to be a better fighter before he released....You say this is instinct which might make sense if not for the fact that Shirosaki is a better fighter than Ichigo. This would mean that those who rely on instinct are more vicious and fight with less honor, they're more brutal and use more sneak attacks (I'm thinking of Shiro V Byakuya) This is how Nnoitra fights in the chapters we've seen and how Grimm fights against Ichigo and Ulquiorra for a few panels before he releases. So Instinct causing a change like that just doesn't make sense.



EDIT: Even if they didn't really fight you'd think word would get around Los Noches about the great Espada swallower :p

Urazz
09-12-2007, 07:32 PM
wow interesting..... nell was number 3 until she got coldblooded ambushed by noi with improved stealth... so that means everyone below 3 was previously one rank higher than they currently are now (meaning ulqiurra use to be 5.. and Noi use to be 6 and so on.). At least thats what this means to me unless there was alot of replacements after nell left ..

anywayz thanks space for the awesome work you've done bringing this content to us.. mad props as always..
Either that or they were at their same ranks and Nel just got replaced. I'm thinking Noitora's motive was to remove Nell and hope everyone gets moved up a rank or Aizen would put him in Nell's spot.

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 07:36 PM
I still don't know how he cut her face from behind...

Unless he can control his scythe in mid flight. Which would be shown in teh flashback, but not in his current fight. Until he desperately went to attack Orihime only to have Ichigo deflect it.

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 07:41 PM
He's oddly shaped! XD
Or maybe she can change her size at will If so its easy to crack a toddler from behind when you're 8 feet tall :p

M.Aizen
09-12-2007, 07:41 PM
I still don't know how he cut her face from behind...

lol, remember he has an duo-crescent shaped axe, and it helps that he's like 7'8

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 07:44 PM
What is he swinging like that girl from Claymore with the extending arms?

M.Aizen
09-12-2007, 07:45 PM
What is he swinging like that girl from Claymore with the extending arms?

lmao, he must've came directly down on her head from behind
that seems about right when you look at her wounds

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 07:47 PM
From above is WAY better than from behind, though. That indicates speed or stealth to get up there in the first place for the strike. Nel fans won't let Nnoitra have that.

Llama
09-12-2007, 07:47 PM
See, that may make sense if it weren't for the fact that Grimm seemed to be a better fighter before he released....You say this is instinct which might make sense if not for the fact that Shirosaki is a better fighter than Ichigo. This would mean that those who rely on instinct are more vicious and fight with less honor, they're more brutal and use more sneak attacks (I'm thinking of Shiro V Byakuya) This is how Nnoitra fights in the chapters we've seen and how Grimm fights against Ichigo and Ulquiorra for a few panels before he releases. So Instinct causing a change like that just doesn't make sense.



EDIT: Even if they didn't really fight you'd think word would get around Los Noches about the great Espada swallower :p
But he did become a better fighter. Just because he didn't seem bright after releasing doesn't mean he became less of a fighter. So he wasn't using some of his thinking skills, he compensated that with the growth of his strength. And I think he believed his counter-ceros and surprise attacks weren't working. He wasn't even a real threat until he used that super cero which made Ichigo go Vaizard. And the super cero didn't even effect Ichigo. I think he saw then that only strength mattered. And so he changed his tactics to head on attacks. Which I think was smart.

For example in Yu Yu Hakusho. Genkai was the master of many techniques. And Younger Toguro said that it was useless to try and use any techniques on her and that the only way to defeat her was through absolute strength. Which he did.

I think Grimmjow saw it the same way. His techniques weren't working so he relied on his absolute strength to defeat Ichigo. Though in this case he failed.

M.Aizen
09-12-2007, 07:49 PM
From above is WAY better than from behind, though. That indicates speed or stealth to get up there in the first place for the strike. Nel fans won't let Nnoitra have that.

Hmmm, or maybe he throw his axe at her like he did to Grimmy
but he would probably need more force since she's most likely stronger than him

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 07:53 PM
But he did become a better fighter. Just because he didn't seem bright after releasing doesn't mean he became less of a fighter. So he wasn't using some of his thinking skills, he compensated that with the growth of his strength. And I think he believed his counter-ceros and surprise attacks weren't working. It wasn't even a real threat until he used that super cero which made Ichigo go Vaizard. And the super cero didn't even effect Ichigo. I think he saw then that only strength mattered. And so he changed his tactics to head on attacks. Which I think was smart.

For example in Yu Yu Hakusho. Genkai was the master of many techniques. And Younger Toguro said that it was useless to try and use any techniques on her and that the only way to defeat her was through absolute strength. Which he did.

I think Grimmjow saw it the same way. His techniques weren't working so he relied on his absolute strength to defeat. Though in this case he failed.

But it wasn't useless......It was smarter than yelling ME STRONG ME BEET YUU!!! and charging in. At any rate isn't it also odd that Ichigo was so much stronger than Grimmjow? That everything he did was useless? even though last time they fought Ichigo was getting his shinibooty whupped while grimm was unreleased with one arm? Well i'm done debating but you have to agree it should have at the very least been a more even fight.

Llama
09-12-2007, 07:59 PM
I guess we can stop debating. Though I do believe their fight was even. It was only at the end of the fight that Ichigo mustered up the resolve to defeat him. And I believe Ichigo was doing so much better in only bankai against an unreleased Grimmjow because he was finally losing some of chocolate as Dordonii would have put it. Also explains why he could hold his mask longer.

That's all I'll say. Anyways back on topic. I hope Nnoitra vs. Nell turns out nice. Meaning he doesn't run away. Though I wouldn't mind Halibel intervening and fighting Nell. It's been awhile since our last cat fight.

Air
09-12-2007, 08:00 PM
You mean like how Grimmjow used counter-ceros and surprise attacks until he released and used head on attacks against Ichigo even though he KNEW how Ichigo fought?:rolleyes:
After releasing, GJ gains: strong claws, a whip-tail, and more agility. If he wants to take advantage of the Pantera form, he MUST attack head-on.

And actually, he did use surprise attacks.. remember that one with the tail, that Ichigo didn't see coming. And vicious attacks.. when he pointed at Hime with Gran Rey Cero and with those missiles too, knowing that Ichigo would sacrifice himself just to defend her.

Rain
09-12-2007, 08:03 PM
Thanks for he spoilers spacecat

Seems like a decent chapter, too bad there doesn't seem to be much Inoue:(

twsl
09-12-2007, 08:03 PM
nooo you guys it's much simpler than you think =DD i think he just used those chains to bend it and hit her in the face with his zanpakto =D look!!! i drew it for you guys ^________^;;;;

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8091/noinellhc5.gif

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 08:07 PM
After releasing, GJ gains: strong claws, a whip-tail, and more agility. If he wants to take advantage of the Pantera form, he MUST attack head-on.

And actually, he did use surprise attacks.. remember that one with the tail, that Ichigo didn't see coming. And vicious attacks.. when he pointed at Hime with Gran Rey Cero and with those missiles too, knowing that Ichigo would sacrifice himself just to defend her.

He must attack head on but not JUST head on. And yeah he used a rudimentary surprise but wasn't that like once? and the Hime attack wasnt really THAT vicious :p
He could have shot one t Orihime and one at the platform she was standing on, trying to make a lose lose situation but thats my wishful thinking.....But again I'd like to ask, why with this power boost and wide range of attacks, why did Ichigo beat him so badly?

Okayokay I digress..Back on topic, Does anyone think Nnoitra knows when to retreat? Because now Nell can fight Nnoitra as Ichigo kills Tesla.....Lets see what he has up his weird shaped sleeve

M.Aizen
09-12-2007, 08:08 PM
nooo you guys it's much simpler than you think =DD i think he just used those chains to bend it and hit her in the face with his zanpakto =D look!!! i drew it for you guys ^________^;;;;

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8091/noinellhc5.gif
lmao yea, i suggested that too
so i gues thats what those bracelets were for.......lol

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 08:10 PM
Hmmm, or maybe he throw his axe at her like he did to Grimmy
but he would probably need more force since she's most likely stronger than him

Would also have to be in front of somehow out of eyesight.

twsl; The problem with that is the huge thing is still in her face for some amount of time. Kusari gama makes sense. Claws make sense. That thing is larger than Nel. Time to turn has to be given. Or Nnoitra breaks the rules of combat laid out via Urahara by Kubo. Either he is fast or she is slow. One of these is true. That's not even bringing to light the loss of momentum used to get the weapon past her.

M.Aizen
09-12-2007, 08:18 PM
Would also have to be in front of somehow out of eyesight.

twsl; The problem with that is the huge thing is still in her face for some amount of time. Kusari gama makes sense. Claws make sense. That thing is larger than Nel. Time to turn has to be given. Or Nnoitra breaks the rules of combat laid out via Urahara by Kubo. Either he is fast or she is slow. One of these is true. That's not even bringing to light the loss of momentum used to get the weapon past her.
Nah he could've pulled it off in stealth from behind
you seen how quick he hit grimmjow, ichigo didnt even see it coming

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 08:19 PM
They were both tired. And it was Kubo's version of dynamic entry.

Wait.. I GOT it. *caffeine is working wonders today* Nel IS stronger, but Nnoitra had his moment of resolve! A la Kenpachi and Ichigo. Ichigo won, but still fears and doesn't know how he beat Kenpachi. Game over. I won.

avidlinuxuser
09-12-2007, 08:22 PM
If Nnoitra would have hit from the front, the scar would be deeper as it goes down. This is likely what happened. http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=noitranelsz8.jpg The scar would be deepest towards the top in this case. This agrees with nel's scar.

Agmaster
09-12-2007, 08:24 PM
So...by your logic, his yank back was hard enough to scramble her brain? No, I'm going with he had a moment of resolve.

chbimun
09-12-2007, 08:27 PM
It's been awhile since our last cat fight.

Well doesn't that bring up further claims for more SS arc parallels.

Halibel is to Nel as Soi Fong is to Yoruichi.

And a bit of SAT prep for you high school kiddies in the form or analogies! >D

Air
09-12-2007, 08:28 PM
At any rate isn't it also odd that Ichigo was so much stronger than Grimmjow?
Actually, Pantera-GJ was clearly slightly stronger than Masked-Ichi.

Ichigo wins only because he was able to use his reiryoku at max. See the resolve in his eyes. That reiryoku, was the one that made him even with Kenpachi, and that Ulquiorra referred to be stronger than his own.

That everything he did was useless?
So was Getsuga Tensho and everything Ichigo did.
They destroy each others attacks, that's why the fight lasted so much.

even though last time they fought Ichigo was getting his shinibooty whupped while grimm was unreleased with one arm?
Last time, Masked-Ichi pwned Grimmjow.
The only problem was the 11 seconds time limit..

This isn't the topic to discuss GJ-Ichi fight, but that was so WRONG -_-


Back on topic, let's wait for a verified spoiler before trashing Noitra..

AnimeGirlPan
09-12-2007, 08:43 PM
Ichigo won't be able to win much in the damage he is in since the last time he got healed and Nel don't have a dirty mind..she only has torned up clothes on..she ain't naked!

Azure
09-12-2007, 08:49 PM
He must attack head on but not JUST head on. And yeah he used a rudimentary surprise but wasn't that like once? and the Hime attack wasnt really THAT vicious :p
He could have shot one t Orihime and one at the platform she was standing on, trying to make a lose lose situation but thats my wishful thinking.....But again I'd like to ask, why with this power boost and wide range of attacks, why did Ichigo beat him so badly?

Okayokay I digress..Back on topic, Does anyone think Nnoitra knows when to retreat? Because now Nell can fight Nnoitra as Ichigo kills Tesla.....Lets see what he has up his weird shaped sleeve

I hope this explains your question about Ichigo vs. Grimmjaw.

Chapter 193 - Ulquiorra: "How strange...the fluctuation of that brat's spiritual pressure increased. The range of fluctuation is amazing...At the lowest point, he is just trash...But at the highest point, he is above me...Where is the logic in this?"

Wikipedia - "The arrancar Ulquiorra has claimed that Ichigo's spiritual power at its peak is even greater than his own, but that it fluctuates wildly when he is in conflict with his inner hollow."

If we assume that Ichigo was able to maintain close to highest amount of spiritual power in the later stages of the fight (It seems pretty clear that he wasn't at max), then Grimmjaw (#6) really isn't that much of a problem for Ichigo (As it is already stated that Ichigo is stronger than #4 Ulquiorra at his peak).

**As far as the chapter goes, the battle between Nel and Nnoitora won't be over just yet. I would say around a chapter or two after this one, either Nnoitora will be defeated, or he will find some means of escape before he is defeated (Ex. Tesla blocks the fatal blow to Nnoitora and escapes with him).

***With all the speculation about the original fight between Nnoitora and Nel, here's a scenario for you all:

After a fairly one-sided battle between Nnoitora and Nel (possibly for her Espada seat/ranking), Nel comes out on top. As she stares at the body of a defeated Nnoitora, she turns around in disgust at his weakness (Maybe she didn't deliver the fatal blow because she was "disgusted" at how weak he was and didn't think of him being deserving of it). The second she has her back turned to him, Nnoitora jumps to his feet and drops his Scythe down on her head for the surprise finishing blow..

phantomfork
09-12-2007, 09:31 PM
Does anyone think Nnoitra knows when to retreat? Because now Nell can fight Nnoitra as Ichigo kills Tesla.....Lets see what he has up his weird shaped sleeve


I think that would depend upon his reason/s for hating her. But we shall see.

Number 3 or not, Nel vs Nnoitra is @$#$!@ awesome. :D Thanks for the spoilers!

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 09:36 PM
Actually, Pantera-GJ was clearly slightly stronger than Masked-Ichi.

Ichigo wins only because he was able to use his reiryoku at max. See the resolve in his eyes. That reiryoku, was the one that made him even with Kenpachi, and that Ulquiorra referred to be stronger than his own.


So was Getsuga Tensho and everything Ichigo did.
They destroy each others attacks, that's why the fight lasted so much.


Last time, Masked-Ichi pwned Grimmjow.
The only problem was the 11 seconds time limit..

This isn't the topic to discuss GJ-Ichi fight, but that was so WRONG -_-


Back on topic, let's wait for a verified spoiler before trashing Noitra..

Masked Ichigo in NO capacity Pwned Grimmjow. It was the situation reversed as Ichigo tried wave after wave of attacka nd this beast just kept coming. He ran out of time and became useless, thus making Grimmjow smile as he prepared to blow off his skull. How was Ichigo the beast this time and even if that did happen, he definitely shouldnt be walking around much less not getting sliced clean in two By Nnoitra...

I hope this explains your question about Ichigo vs. Grimmjaw.

Chapter 193 - Ulquiorra: "How strange...the fluctuation of that brat's spiritual pressure increased. The range of fluctuation is amazing...At the lowest point, he is just trash...But at the highest point, he is above me...Where is the logic in this?"

Wikipedia - "The arrancar Ulquiorra has claimed that Ichigo's spiritual power at its peak is even greater than his own, but that it fluctuates wildly when he is in conflict with his inner hollow."

If we assume that Ichigo was able to maintain close to highest amount of spiritual power in the later stages of the fight (It seems pretty clear that he wasn't at max), then Grimmjaw (#6) really isn't that much of a problem for Ichigo (As it is already stated that Ichigo is stronger than #4 Ulquiorra at his peak).

But the problem is, how near its peak? If its very near, he can't hope to beat number one. The Difference between grimm and Ulquiorra was clear, so the difference between ulquiorra and number 2 and one let alone Aizen Souske should be too much for even Ichigo if this is the official explanation. I'll drop my disappointment with the grimmjow fight and state this query: If Ichigo tapped into his hollow powers like his fellow vaizards somehow then how much of a powerup will he need, provided he is destined as the main character to defeat Aizen Sosuke, or at the very least Espada number one? Also, what nature will this powerup take if he is near his peak? and if there is to be another arc, with another enemy, how will Ichigo Kurosaki deal with that, assuming he's no Son Goku?


But back on topic again: I doubt Nel will kill Nnoitra...These next chapters present the opportunity to twist the non plot of this arc in unexpected ways. Assuming Nel doesnt simply fight Nnoitra, let Ichigo escape and/or fight and get healed by Orihime.
Its clobberin' time :cool:

Beee
09-12-2007, 10:49 PM
nel #3 eh? Well I wouldn't be suprised if it was true... since I still/always suspect/suspected Nnoitora scarred her with a dirty suprise attack or something

Actually, Pantera-GJ was clearly slightly stronger than Masked-Ichi.



There isn't actual proof that panteraGJ was clearly stronger than Ichi. I think they were evently matched if anything. In terms of skill/speed/whatever, PGJ might've have a slight edge but resolve is still part of one's strength methinks...

Lastier
09-12-2007, 10:53 PM
Thanks for he spoilers spacecat

Seems like a decent chapter, too bad there doesn't seem to be much Inoue:(

Don't worry, she will get her usual "Kurosaki-kun..." phrase like every chapter. That should please her fans.

twsl
09-12-2007, 10:55 PM
this is a translation of Nihongaeri at mangahelpers it's slightly different at some places but overall quite the same =) i personally loved the part where she picked up ichigo xD haha they've obviously switched their roles now xD

ペッシェ達がまずネルの霊圧を感じる
The chapter starts with Pesshe and co. sensing Nel's reiatsu
「この霊圧は・・・紛れもないネル様の・・・」
This reiatsu... There's no doubt, it's that of Nel-sama...
で、変化したネルに苺もおっぱおもびっくり
After that Ichigo and Orihime are shown as being shocked by Nell's transformation
瞬時でノイトラの背後に回り苺を抱きかかえます
Nell instantaneously moves behind Nnoitra and picks up Ichigo
ネル「大丈夫・・・すぐ終わるから」(ここで3番と分かる)
Nel "It's alright... It'll be over immediately" (Nell being No. 3 is revealed here)
しばらくネルとノイトラ大先生の戦い
Nel and Nnoitora fight for a while
ノイトラ大先生虚閃吐きますが、ネル飲み込んで逆に返します
Nnoitora spits out a Cero, but Nel consumes it and send it back
ズ・・・ン・・・
Zu... n... (SFX)
おわり
Chapter ends

Rain
09-12-2007, 10:57 PM
Lastier- :rotflmao be careful with how much you say that, it's seems lots of people are tired of hearing that (like in the next chapter pred. thread, and Inoue development thread)

twsl- thanks

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 11:00 PM
Wait, does she still have her espada number or did she tell him?
The number seems like something that might saaaaaaay, be seared off of your back:p Thanks Twsl!

ForteAnly
09-12-2007, 11:10 PM
It could have been that she went missing and never returned up until now of course so maybe her rank was never revoked.

Air
09-12-2007, 11:30 PM
Masked Ichigo in NO capacity Pwned Grimmjow. It was the situation reversed as Ichigo tried wave after wave of attacka nd this beast just kept coming.
Masked-Ichi is not a lot stronger than unreleased-GJ? O_O
That must be why, on their third fight, after seeing the mask he released right away.. that's because he was so much superior even without releasing..

I think they were evently matched if anything. In terms of skill/speed/whatever, PGJ might've have a slight edge but resolve is still part of one's strength methinks...
Yeah, I agree ;)
I was just talking about Masked-Ichi. The max reiryoku, puts Ichigo above GJ (and above Ulquiorra, as he admits himself). But this was only after the mask break..



So Nel use her super-acceleration to go near Ichigo? That sounds right :)

NVZBlity
09-12-2007, 11:38 PM
It could have been that she went missing and never returned up until now of course so maybe her rank was never revoked.

a la yoruichi.

hdx514
09-12-2007, 11:43 PM
no.9 dead, no.8 released, no.6 down, no.4 sealed away, ex no.3 fighting no.5... HM is getting totally out of control. aizen can't just sit there and watch anymore.

Shadoblak
09-12-2007, 11:46 PM
Thats right, I forgot Ichigo Kurosaki is God himself :rolleyes: I never thought I'd say this again, but as of now, Naruto is above Bleach BLASPHEMY!:eek:

HD: Chads cut in half Rukias skewered Ichigo's tired Orihime's subdued Ishida and Renji are outmatched....Who can't just sit around now :p I'm not sure anyone can sit around much longer watching

Velius
09-13-2007, 01:53 AM
Looking like a good, if not great, chapter. If the raw is even anything close to the summary, then that will be plenty for me. *tries to imagine what Kubo would do and fails* hehe.

Beee
09-13-2007, 02:20 AM
no.9 dead, no.8 released, no.6 down, no.4 sealed away, ex no.3 fighting no.5... HM is getting totally out of control. aizen can't just sit there and watch anymore.

why not?! If I was Aizen I'd be quite happy and entertained xD

ForteAnly
09-13-2007, 03:10 AM
why not?! If I was Aizen I'd be quite happy and entertained xD

Knowing Aizen i'm sure he is enjoying every minute of this.

Urazz
09-13-2007, 03:15 AM
no.9 dead, no.8 released, no.6 down, no.4 sealed away, ex no.3 fighting no.5... HM is getting totally out of control. aizen can't just sit there and watch anymore.

Why not? The arrancar and hollows haven't betrayed him yet and he still has the hougyoku. All he is losing right now are some espada which are replaceable by the looks of things.

Tomodachi69
09-13-2007, 03:32 AM
no.9 dead, no.8 released, no.6 down, no.4 sealed away, ex no.3 fighting no.5... HM is getting totally out of control. aizen can't just sit there and watch anymore.

You forget, this is Aizen we're talking about. Do you think he actually CARES about his dispensable army of Espada and arrancar? Hougyouku means that he can make more whenever he wants. Plus, he needs 'Hime to fully unlock it. Once he does, I'm sure he'll be able to make so many more arrancar, probably Espada level, too, before the Winter War.

Right now, Aizen is just sitting back, watching the show, entertained by Ichigo and co's antics and by what's happening with his Espada.

But anyway, Nell vs Noi? YES PLEASE XD
I wonder how she looks swallowing his cero and spitting it out (xD).
In chibi form, it looked funny; little midget going "ahhhh" and basically breathing the damn thing in. But serious looking Nell doing the same thing? I want to see Kubo's art on that XD

Shadoblak
09-13-2007, 03:53 AM
You forget, this is Aizen we're talking about. Do you think he actually CARES about his dispensable army of Espada and arrancar? Hougyouku means that he can make more whenever he wants. Plus, he needs 'Hime to fully unlock it. Once he does, I'm sure he'll be able to make so many more arrancar, probably Espada level, too, before the Winter War.

Right now, Aizen is just sitting back, watching the show, entertained by Ichigo and co's antics and by what's happening with his Espada.

But anyway, Nell vs Noi? YES PLEASE XD
I wonder how she looks swallowing his cero and spitting it out (xD).
In chibi form, it looked funny; little midget going "ahhhh" and basically breathing the damn thing in. But serious looking Nell doing the same thing? I want to see Kubo's art on that XD

I'm sure kubo's been having fun with Nell sketches...Oh my the fan fics that will come of this.....We should be getting some pics soon so, this should be a good week XD

Tomodachi69
09-13-2007, 04:00 AM
I'm sure kubo's been having fun with Nell sketches...Oh my the fan fics that will come of this.....We should be getting some pics soon so, this should be a good week XD

I swear, Kubo's having a little too much fun with the amount of sexual innuendo in Hueco Mundo xD I mean really. Szayel's is obviously obscene, but there's also GJ and his release (scratching his sword? lawl :D), the *ahem* interesting female arrancar outfits, 'Hime's dress (interesting design, no? >>), and now Nell and her cero-swallow/spitting skills xD Oh, and her throat-penis.

Goodness, we all thought it was weird seeing CHIBI Nell with a potty mouth. If Espada!Nell is still the same.... XD

I wonder how GJ and Halibel will respond to Nell's presence, btw. Esp GJ, I miss him XD Maybe he passed out, though xp

Primera Espada
09-13-2007, 04:12 AM
I was always under the assumption that some of the translations "dirtied" Nel's dialogue up quite a bit. Just like how they added the "th" sound, which don't get me started on how she can't actually MAKE that sound (the teeth required for that sound are the teeth she's missing)

Tomodachi69
09-13-2007, 04:19 AM
I was always under the assumption that some of the translations "dirtied" Nel's dialogue up quite a bit. Just like how they added the "th" sound, which don't get me started on how she can't actually MAKE that sound (the teeth required for that sound are the teeth she's missing)

True, but still, even without the liberties that some scan groups have surely taken with Nell's lines, you can't deny that everyone there is a *little* screwy xp I wanna know if she actually did say "Throat Penis", though. Ichigo's reaction tells me that she probably did, but I wanna ask a TLer anyway. -shrug-

Space, do you have any idea how accurate 'throat penis' is when Nell pukes on Dordonii? xp

RipTide
09-13-2007, 04:58 AM
It wasn't plotkai. Hollows rely on instincts. When a hollow becomes an Arrancar they seem to lose some of their instincts and gain more reason. Why is this? First of all they lose the mask which protects their naked instinct. Also it seems the hole on their chest moves after becoming Arrancar. Maybe signifying they have somewhat of a heart. And since they have unreleased form they don't use as much energy. So now they aren't always thinking about consuming people(losing instinct). Now when Grimmjow released he went back to his original form(except without the mask). Now he is consuming way more energy, which means he's going to get hungry faster and will have the mindset of kill kill kill, instead of,what is my next strategy? And in this process he's going to lose some reasoning and rely more on instincts now. So naturally he would fight differently released(With more instinct) then he would if he was fighting unreleased(With more reason).

interesting... Llama. In that case then that would mean Vastrolordes are analytical and smart since they are the closest to being human like? Though I do not think we have seen or have confirmed a vastrolorde yet. But then again, I hope we don't have a WonderWiess Vastrolorde. DOH!

It wouldn't surprise me if Nell was the previous 1 or 2 as well. Imagine a girlfriend who cant eat Ceros.... WOOOHOOOO!

Off subject, Llama - your sig is very disturbing. I mean very very disturbing.

Llama
09-13-2007, 05:02 AM
Although not confirmed I'm pretty sure 4-1 are Vastro Lordes.

Which one is disturbing? The winking one or the flashy one?

Shadoblak
09-13-2007, 05:20 AM
Although not confirmed I'm pretty sure 4-1 are Vastro Lordes.

Which one is disturbing? The winking one or the flashy one?

Now THAT I agree with.....Ulquiora on up seem good candidates for Vastroodes....I'd imagine it would be time for action if the upper echelons start to die.....

Oh...And BOTH sigs are pretty disturbing XD

yanniv
09-13-2007, 05:39 AM
http://i6.tinypic.com/4y6ajns.jpg

avidlinuxuser
09-13-2007, 05:42 AM
so Nel was definitely espada #3 at some point, and her number's on her back =O

debbiechan
09-13-2007, 05:48 AM
http://i6.tinypic.com/4y6ajns.jpg

Weeee! Sexy! And if she still has her tattoo that means that Nnoitra didn't defeat her--maybe somehow she just lost her memory and wandered away or something?

Goodbye Nnoitra, it was nice knownin ya.

I can't wait for this chapter.

Shadoblak
09-13-2007, 05:53 AM
http://i6.tinypic.com/4y6ajns.jpg

XD It means she wasn't demoted after being defeated! Nnoitra took care of her all on his own! Does anyone even know she was defeated? or do they just assume that hot chick with the lisp just wandered away?

hyiceme
09-13-2007, 05:53 AM
thanks for the pic, Yanniv!

So, Nel was #3. Wait...didn't Grimmy's number get scratched out when he got kicked out of espada? How come Nel still has hers?

~De Stark~
09-13-2007, 05:55 AM
WOO Nell is the tercera espada!!Ulquiorra is officially in the danger zone now!!Wonder if he bursts out of the cana negacion and ULqi and NNoi team up 2 fite Nel...tat wud be sooooo friggin awesum!

Shadoblak
09-13-2007, 05:56 AM
thanks for the pic, Yanniv!

So, Nel was #3. Wait...didn't Grimmy's number get scratched out when he got kicked out of espada? How come Nel still has hers?

She probably wasnt demoted! Nnoitra, the dumbass probably disposed of her himself....Its questionable if the Others know he beat her or if they just think he killed her! XD This is gonna get awesome!

M.Aizen
09-13-2007, 05:59 AM
thanks for the pic, Yanniv!

So, Nel was #3. Wait...didn't Grimmy's number get scratched out when he got kicked out of espada? How come Nel still has hers?

because Nnoitra said he attacked her behind and threw her out into the desert on his own

sephysarkon
09-13-2007, 06:03 AM
Wow... That's kinda sweet. Thanks yanniv!

~the seph

Nocturne
09-13-2007, 06:56 AM
Thanks for the pic, yanniv! Much appreciated! And Nel's confirmed #3!!! I wouldn't be surprised if both Nel and Nnoitora were sent out on an errand, like pick up more hair gel for Aizen. Nnoitora got annoyed with Nel taking so long to pick the best hair gel, he bashed her from behind. LOL, yeah, it's 3:00 AM, I should be sleeping, but happy I got to see a pic! :D

I have to add, Ichigo is getting an eyeful! XD

Primera Espada
09-13-2007, 07:22 AM
this is awesome XD

I wonder who got her spot after she never came back. Perhaps everyone else thought Nel was a deserter? And Nnoi couldn't claim he beat her cause there was no body?

I just realized....
Nel is wearing the worlds shortest poncho.

and you can see the back of her... assets.

gab00n
09-13-2007, 07:37 AM
Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad!
http://wynnie.net/img/Funnee/Russell-Peters.jpg

spacecat
09-13-2007, 07:46 AM
http://i9.tinypic.com/6aozl9k.jpg

Syn
09-13-2007, 07:53 AM
Nel looks quite awesome in that pic ^^ thanks for sharing :)
So, she was 3 uh? I wonder how everything is going to unfold now :p one thing is certain: she has to kick Nnoi's butt before everything is settled XD
I also wonder if she was a VastoLord before :p

Primera Espada
09-13-2007, 07:56 AM
why do I think she's the "wierd one" Yammy referred to when he said "Another wierd one"

Go sexay Nel

Miranu
09-13-2007, 08:02 AM
OMG! That is one huge tattoo on her back :O Must've hurt XD
Btw I like the new Neliel pict :D Gonna color that too XD

Lady Orihime
09-13-2007, 08:04 AM
Nell's arrancar masks looks strikingly similar to the mask Ichigo was wearing in the 289 spread..me thinks Kubo was foreshadowing:

http://i2.tinypic.com/502tcfp.png

http://i17.tinypic.com/66crnrq.png

WatanukiXXX
09-13-2007, 08:11 AM
great pics thanks yanniv and spacecat!

Nell looks determined and awesome. With the power gap between them I doubt Nnoi can win in a straight fight. Like Grimm, he's gonna have to use 1) full aggression from the get go and get the element of surprise, but that wont happen here
2) Use a trick or tactic. The longer this fight goes on the more disadvantaged he will be.

aizen must have had fun drawing that tattoo ;p

spacecat
09-13-2007, 08:24 AM
Not sure if this is just a bigger blown up version of the last one Yan posted but they posted this also.
http://i11.tinypic.com/54l0a6v.jpg

Primera Espada
09-13-2007, 08:27 AM
I love this
Suddenly, it went from a horrible situation to a "You can leave Nel here and take care of the others" situation.

phantomfork
09-13-2007, 08:29 AM
Thank you for the pics!!! wow, miss former number three sorta looks like wonderwoman with unohana's passive expression. Plus she looks less dazed for some reason. I was sort of expecting her to be a little out of it, since her mask is still cracked and all, but i guess there's no reason for that since she just transformed.

Nell's arrancar masks looks strikingly similar to the mask Ichigo was wearing in the 289 spread...me thinks Kubo was foreshadowing

I was thinking the same thing after noticing the horns on her mask. Nel release!!!! (but not too soon)

Wow, maybe Halibel is new number three? No reason for this other than the fact that she's female. :o that and there would never be a female primera espada in bleach unfortunately :cry

Did she really retain all her power though? Maybe she can take Nnoitra, but Ulquiorra...I'm gonna guess that she's still injured and not at full power. Maybe later she'll recover.

mori
09-13-2007, 08:35 AM
http://i19.tinypic.com/6cobacg.jpg

Primera Espada
09-13-2007, 08:42 AM
awwwesome pic. Liking Nel more and more all the time.

I bet you if anyone's a vastarode, she is.

Though it's kinda funny... Ichigo can't touch Nnoitra unless he's vaizard (presumably) and here he has a former #3 on his side. I wonder if she'll want her spot back once she remembers.

LOVING the mask though, really.

Lady Orihime
09-13-2007, 08:43 AM
Thanks mori!

Darn! Nel's mask doesn't look like the 289 mask from the front :o But she does looks so pretty :inlove

WatanukiXXX
09-13-2007, 08:43 AM
Nell looks so cool. And yeah agree with Primera. Nell has jumped in front of Ulquiorra as the first VL featured in Bleach :D

Zangetsu01
09-13-2007, 08:47 AM
:love Nel... more pictures of her I see, more I like her... her eyes are so beautiful...
And good to see Spoon-Espada who don't smile anymore...:D
Thanks for the pics, Yanniv, Spacecat & Mori ;)

spacecat
09-13-2007, 08:48 AM
http://i19.tinypic.com/6cobacg.jpg

Thanks mori, how come whenever we post a pic it ends up as one of the last on the page haha.

mori
09-13-2007, 08:50 AM
no idea, I'd blame karma out on principle xD

well, at least kubo can still draw pretty pictures ><

sephysarkon
09-13-2007, 08:51 AM
Ohhh my god. That is freaking AWESOME! (Her mask, tattoo if it's confirmed.) Thank you Spacecat and Mori!

~the seph

DeDaL
09-13-2007, 09:08 AM
Wow, do I see Apache in those camshots? Cuz I'm pretty sure I do...

Okay, so Neriel is Tercero Espada? (yes, I prefer to call her Neriel from now on) Not really unexpected, but still awesome. Those horns on mask? Aweme again. Long hair - not awesome...yeah.

Anyways, I still don't see where all this is going. I don't beleive in Soul Society arc parallels, cuz Kubo is far from being that predictable...or at least "was..."

Riekie
09-13-2007, 09:12 AM
CUUTE!! thanks for the pics Yanniv, Spacecat and Mori:love

Yeah..it does look quite similar to the spread mask one Ichigo's wearing..although not everything is similar.

Hmm...i wonder where this leads to:D

Primera Espada
09-13-2007, 09:20 AM
Shouldn't her name be Neliel?

I'm not sure if those stray eyes belong to apache, I thought maybe tesla, the prettyboycar.

twsl
09-13-2007, 09:24 AM
i'm wondering who'll get this weeks cover, i think it's nel =)

Primera Espada
09-13-2007, 09:28 AM
I gathered that the 2 page spread replaced the cover (doesn't he do that sometimes?)

A waste of a 2 page spread if you ask me. The 2nd page is almost all smoke.

Sergelia
09-13-2007, 09:28 AM
I don't think it's going to be about Ichigo leaving the battleground with Orihime, more like Orihime leaving the battleground with Ichigo. =__= The boy's so beaten up it's not even funny. If this was real life, Hime would spray Tesla in the eyes with mace, kick him in the nuts and run for dear life dragging Ichigo by the foot, but as it isn't, I suppose both her and Ichi will assume the role of background props.

Aaand be used for 'Wide Eyes Of Doom' panels, when Kubo feels the need to show us just how shocked they are.

Anyway Nell being the former Espada No. 3 is just awesome. :love I felt that coming. If anything, I want to see if she'll be able to put up a kickass fight without a sword on her. That would rock.

But knowing Kubo she'll probably spit a handy Zanpakutou out of her mouth or something.

Shinrin
09-13-2007, 09:29 AM
Thx for the translations and pictures Space, Yanniv & Mori.

More good "detailed" pictures here(talking about the persons not the bg)

About Nel's mask and the one Ichigo had in that color spread:
It might be her released mask, and somehow she get killed and her mask got split in the progress, afterward Ichi took the fregment as a memorial.
(Only question left is if it would dissolve like Hollows do, though i don't seem to recall the other arrancars doing that)

Chill0
09-13-2007, 09:38 AM
about being vastrolord i have my theory here. everyone that is one has a partly german name. This would make stark nel oderschwank wanderweiss and yes ulquiora shieffer all vastrolords . I think im right on this one. especially when nel being former 3 will be confirmed. still dont know noitora's hindname? cause we cant be sure if hes vatrolord atm.

you have to think about this being picked up by japanese fans is rather slim, but for European people i think it quite clear.

phantomfork
09-13-2007, 09:44 AM
Thanks for the new pic mori!

Hmm, one part of me wants to believe that Nel is a Vastrolode, but there could be other possibilities too.

Someone made a great observation earlier about her tattoo still being intact. Maybe she wasn't kicked out of the espada after her injury but wandered off like someone mentioned? In that case, she might be a vastrolode given the power levels of the espada we have seen so far, all though this isn't absolute. Maybe their aren't any Vastrolorde at in the espada at the moment.

If on the other hand, she was replaced after having been "missing in action" then maybe there were no Vastrolorde present when she was still with the espada, in which case she could be an adjucas.

If she is an adjucas (can't spell it sry) then maybe she won't necessesarily wipe the floor with Nnoitra. Although I'm all for that happening too. :D

Edit: Whoops just remembered that pic with all the numbered espada and there were 10. She was in fact replaced. ^^;

mori
09-13-2007, 09:49 AM
http://i19.tinypic.com/6ak3pjt.jpg

Riekie
09-13-2007, 09:50 AM
oow that's awesome:wtf thanks so much for it Mori:glomp

Syn
09-13-2007, 09:53 AM
Thanks for all the new pics guys ^^
I've been wondering, since I saw that huge 3, maybe it is the top 3 that all has huge tattoos like Nel?
And I do believe that Nnoi kicked her out from Las Noches and she wandered around (attacking her by surprise, he took her offguard and kicked her out unknowingly from the others... more or less XD). I don't think she left on her own :p

DeDaL
09-13-2007, 09:55 AM
Mori, you are t3h GOD. ^___^

She's so scary! o_O

Sergelia
09-13-2007, 09:59 AM
Thanks for the pic - and OHMG LOOK SHE HAS A ZANPAKUTOU NOW.

Though the perspective creeps me out, that IS one really good shot. o__O

phantomfork
09-13-2007, 10:01 AM
Thanks for the pic! Again!!!! She looks like an olympic sprinter.

WatanukiXXX
09-13-2007, 10:15 AM
looking at her the way her right hand is clenching into a claw...i'd say she's about ready to tear out Nnoitra's other eye;)

thanks Mori for the pics!

BigBadBuu
09-13-2007, 10:15 AM
Yanniv.
Spacecat.
Mori.

....you're all heros to me! =)

As for Nell and the #3... Guess, we don't have to worry about Ulquiorra anymore! lol

~Buu

Lady Orihime
09-13-2007, 10:24 AM
She is so pretty! :wtf Nel has re-defined cool, IMO...man, I wish I voted for her also in the 4th "Bleach" pop poll :rotflmao

I'm with whoever said that she was only replaced because she "disappeared". I'm hoping she retains her memories of Ichigo and the desert bros o_0

Thanks yanniv, spacecat, mori! :hug

spacecat
09-13-2007, 10:29 AM
Yanniv.
Spacecat.
Mori.
....you're all heros to me! =)
~Buu

Yes indeed we are the gods of upload/copy and paste :lmao

I think since the Desert Bros were so worried that this would happen that maybe she gets her espada personality back also and I don't care if I'm the only one here who wants it but I hope it's the case.

Riekie
09-13-2007, 10:35 AM
hahaha lemme tell ya one thing Spacey...you're NOT the only one that wants it back:D Man...The eviler (is that really a word?) the better! It's about time to see a woman kick some ass...soo go Nell and get your Espada personality back!!

I know you can

sephysarkon
09-13-2007, 11:03 AM
Kekeke... wow, again! Thank you Mori! And a general thanks to everyone for the pics (yanniv, space, Mori).

Wow... Noitora looked particularly "O___O" in that last shot in the latest spoiler pic.

I also hope Nell (I can't break the habit of writing her name as such) was just replaced as some others theorized, and ended up wandering the desert. It'd make sense if she was just tossed out [by Noi], that her number wasn't scratched/burned off and yet there's still 10 Espada that we saw.

~the seph

Akutabi
09-13-2007, 11:24 AM
Ah, so now Kubo brings back elements from another of his early works. Nel's horns are almost identical to Kenso's from his oneshot, Rune Master Urara. Hell, they even both have big boobs. Now if only Nel's release resembled a satyr

duffman13
09-13-2007, 11:24 AM
nell has a tramp stamp? hot. i don't think she'll turn on ichi and friends, and i think between her and grimmy, they have the help they need to get out of HM mission accomplished, assuming Grimmy turns. I guess the arc is finally winding down

Rain
09-13-2007, 11:55 AM
Thanks for posting those pics you guys (space, yanniv, and mori:D)

For some reason the 3 doesn't fit right, is it because I picked 3 in that Nell's former number thread, maybe:lmao

:eek:I bet the three was originally an 8 and the number was edited again:lmao

Lady Orihime
09-13-2007, 12:06 PM
Yes indeed we are the gods of upload/copy and paste :lmao

I think since the Desert Bros were so worried that this would happen that maybe she gets her espada personality back also and I don't care if I'm the only one here who wants it but I hope it's the case.

hahaha lemme tell ya one thing Spacey...you're NOT the only one that wants it back:D Man...The eviler (is that really a word?) the better! It's about time to see a woman kick some ass...soo go Nell and get your Espada personality back!!

I know you can

I might be inclined to agree, if I didn't think Ichigo had his fill of evil espada...poor kid :(

But that last shot of Nel's eye in the "3" picture does look kind of menacing towards Ichigo...but she's still going after Nnoi.

Grimm and Nel should be the two baddies gone goodies, even though I know so many people would hate that :rotflmao

spacecat
09-13-2007, 12:18 PM
http://i16.tinypic.com/29db5g9.jpg

mori
09-13-2007, 12:18 PM
edit: xD .

Mei
09-13-2007, 12:22 PM
Oh great, thanks! <33

Go Nel, go !!! She´ll make it! <33

She also has this serious, calm attitude around her, it seems, just like Stark and Halibel => this gives me more credit for Halibel and Stark being No. 1 and 2, because they have a similar attitude and aura around them. (maybe a character trait of Vasto Lords...? Just a guess)

phantomfork
09-13-2007, 12:31 PM
Yeesh, that's gotta hurt >_<

So maybe Nnoitra will release next week? :is hopeful:

I might be inclined to agree, if I didn't think Ichigo had his fill of evil espada...poor kid :(

yah, he does need a bit of a break. Gah, such is the nature of getting stuck in enemy territory. x_x

spacecat
09-13-2007, 12:39 PM
Yeah i don't mean i want nell and ichigo to fight, I just need a break of ppl joining the I love Ichigo fanclub. It's unrealistic. And even though Grim says til the last minute how much he hates Ichigo people still want him in the FC : / please no.

btw. nothing I can read from any of those pages is really worth mentioning..oh wow Nell has transformed and Nnoitra swearing at her is about it.

Riekie
09-13-2007, 12:40 PM
Awesome-ies! Thanks for another spoiler pic Space:glomp

Yeah...she seems very calm, assuming she's gonna kill the bastard that attacked her from behindxD

spacecat
09-13-2007, 12:41 PM
Yeah the espada are just like the shinigami captains, all too keen to fight each other and most don't seem to like each other. They are quite amusing haha. I'd wanna knock him down also since he was just bragging in her face about how he did it.

me551ah
09-13-2007, 12:44 PM
Weird nobody said anything bout the possibility of a love angle between Ichigo and Nell.

Ichigo saved Nell's life in the beginning and unlike Orihime she isnt afraid of ichigo's Vaizard Form. Moreover a love angle b/w a Vaizard and a Arrancar is a perfect twist to the story. Vaizard's wont like it and neither will the arrancars!!:D

Juliet
09-13-2007, 12:48 PM
Oh no more love angles with Ichigo please....!
More plot yes!

Anyway, I love how Nel looks. I really want to see the raw, mostly because I don't like Noi and I want him to get trashed :P

Lastier
09-13-2007, 12:51 PM
Everyone that wants to hurt Ichigo will have to fight Nell first. If Ulquiorra is about to come back any time soon, I forsee some great pwnage coming up for him. I would love to see him lose his calmness.

spacecat
09-13-2007, 12:53 PM
lol *reps Juliet* and yeah it was mentioned last week a few times anyways.

edit: Lastier: not if she got her badass espada personality back like i hope...pleeaase Kubo.

Rain
09-13-2007, 12:57 PM
My random thought of the day:

When GJ was removed from the espada he was replaced by luppi, who wasn't as stong as him. So if Nel was originally the number 3 and was replaced by another arrancar, couldn't that number 3 be "weak" for his rank also:headscratch There is some hope for Ichigo and co:rotflmao

spacecat
09-13-2007, 12:59 PM
Rain: What about 1 and 2...not to mention Aizen etc. And now there is hope for Ichigo? When wasn't there hope for Ichigo being the main character in a shounen and all :rotflmao

twsl
09-13-2007, 01:02 PM
Everyone that wants to hurt Ichigo will have to fight Nell first. If Ulquiorra is about to come back any time soon, I forsee some great pwnage coming up for him. I would love to see him lose his calmness.

pwnage? but isn't ulqi like.. 4 and nel like.. 3? O.O and she even has a zanpakto! she could release anytime :)

Lady Orihime
09-13-2007, 01:05 PM
I would like for one of the espada to be on Ichigo's side...and Nel seems like the most likely candidate :cool:

Rain
09-13-2007, 01:07 PM
spacecat- my sarcasim never comes through on the internets:lmao

Lastier
09-13-2007, 01:07 PM
edit: Lastier: not if she got her badass espada personality back like i hope...pleeaase Kubo.

Like Hime should become the Dark, evil Arrancar princess by brainwashing like some people mentioned? >:

BigBadBuu
09-13-2007, 01:07 PM
Once again, Spacey's godly copy/paste-no-jutsu, vanquishes all evil!~!

:D

I loooooove Nell in action! The clean-ness of that attack across NoiNoi's chest is marvelous, to say the least.

Also, those who assumed last week that Nell's outstretched hand held onto a Zanpaktou were apparently right. This also explains how NoiNoi's Zanpaktou was never seen on him-- Arrancar can apparently pull their Zanpaktou's out of their asses thin air! o_O

Love Nell's transformed Mask too! That coupled with her boot/b-iliciousness, nekkid-ness and light hair gives her a distinct Valkyrie-ness that I totally dig!

Nel, the slobbering ball grabbing runt is dead! ...long live Neliel, 6'4" nordic war-goddess! :D

~Buu

spacecat
09-13-2007, 01:14 PM
Hell no Lastier, that would be worst thing ever >< Nell was obv a badass espada before so I just want to see that side of her...hime is good...that's all there is too it....*cringes at whoever put that idea out there * :p

Sorry Rain, spacecat = zombie, not quick with these things sometimes. :rotflmao

Rain
09-13-2007, 01:17 PM
evilhime would be fun too see once, but I do want nel to stay as a badass espada (is there really any other kind)

space- you're a zombie *runs and hides due to fear* :rofl

sephysarkon
09-13-2007, 01:18 PM
OSHI---

Wow. That is a freaking awesome pic, space. Thank you! Kekeke... I'm totally looking forward to possible Noi pwnage by Nell.

~the seph

furato
09-13-2007, 01:41 PM
My random thought of the day:

When GJ was removed from the espada he was replaced by luppi, who wasn't as stong as him. So if Nel was originally the number 3 and was replaced by another arrancar, couldn't that number 3 be "weak" for his rank also:headscratch There is some hope for Ichigo and co:rotflmao
This is actually what's been bugging me.

What's the deal with Luppi?

Shawlong said Espada are ranked based on strength, so we can assume that whoever is outside of Espada is weaker than Aaroniero. If Sexta becomes too weak to be Espada, why doesn't Septima get promoted as Sexta, etc. and the next strongest become Decima? If Luppi has always been stronger than Szayel, then why isn't he Espada long ago?

It's either Kubo's inconsistency, Aizen's inconsistency, Shawlong's lack of knowledge, or Aizen deliberately did it to show that Grimmjow's not demoted, he's just suspended and Luppi is cannon fodder who's going to die either by the earth defenders or by Grimmjow when Orihime's theirs and she heals his arm.

spacecat
09-13-2007, 01:45 PM
Or Luppi was made recently and conveniently just fit 6th :p who knows it's another thing that never made sense XD Probably just another convenient BS manga moment. (You know this is actually how they explained it in the anime last week @@)

mori
09-13-2007, 01:46 PM
http://i3.tinypic.com/4yzmsdf.jpg

nell x ichigo get

Sarada
09-13-2007, 01:48 PM
OMFG CANON!!!!

Who's gonna make the FC?

Akutabi
09-13-2007, 01:51 PM
http://i3.tinypic.com/4yzmsdf.jpg

nell x ichigo get

gotta love the look on Ichigo's face there:lmao

mori
09-13-2007, 01:52 PM
gotta love the look on Ichigo's face there:lmao

"her breasts are pressing into my side"

tehworstguy
09-13-2007, 01:55 PM
I hope she throws him over her shoulder and carries him to safety later on.

StarryInoueSky
09-13-2007, 01:56 PM
LOL thanks for the picture. :)

She looks so pissed and he looks frozen and shocked. XD

spacecat
09-13-2007, 01:56 PM
Oh well memory back or not she seems to still harbour feelings for Ichigo hehehehe.....

The person who posted the pic added these quotes with it though I do not see them on the page so they may be just a joke? If they are true I think Nell wants him as a pet or something haha.

ネル「いちごは私のものよ!!」
Nell “Ichigo is mine!!”

一護「な・・・ネル!?」
Ichigo “This is…Nell!?”

ネル「いちごはネルの!!」
Nell “Ichigo is Nells!!”

ZoneGhost
09-13-2007, 01:57 PM
OOh thnx mori that looks good. Man I'd love to ichigo at that point *cough*

Nocturne
09-13-2007, 01:59 PM
ROTFLOL, Ichigo's expression is priceless!!! I love it! Thanks so much for the pics Mori and space (and for the translation as well)! Oh man, Nel and her pet Ichigo! I seriously can't wait for the chapter!

I hope she throws him over her shoulder and carries him to safety later on.
LOL, I was wondering about that. I hope it's bridal style with Ichigo as the bride. XD

Enth
09-13-2007, 02:00 PM
Off-topic;
Its a bit too convienient that Aizen would find someone weaker than Nnoitra but stronger than #7 to replace Grimmjow. It just seems too "perfect". Luppi was probably just thrown in so that Aizen wouldn't have to go through the hassle of changing four people's tattoos :P He probably always intended for Grimmjow's arm to be eventually healed by Inoue and thus reinstated into the Espada anyhow. So promoting #7, Pinkhairboy, Fishtank and Yammy would have been a waste of time.


On-topic;
Love these pictures of Nel :) She looks awesome...So she DOES have her Zanpakuto on her in her adult state after all then...

StarryInoueSky
09-13-2007, 02:02 PM
Oh well memory back or not she seems to still harbour feelings for Ichigo hehehehe.....

The person who posted the pic added these quotes with it though I do not see them on the page so may be just a joke? If they are true I think Nell wants him as a pet or something haha.

ネル「いちごは私のものよ!!」
Nell “Ichigo is mine!!”

一護「な・・・ネル!?」
Ichigo “This is…Nell!?”

ネル「いちごはネルの!!」
Nell “Ichigo is Nells!!”

I hope she throws him over her shoulder and carries him to safety later on.

LOL :rotflmao That would be nice.

How cute.

v1nx
09-13-2007, 02:13 PM
/me want to see Nell x Ichigo = Arrazards :rotflmao

tehworstguy
09-13-2007, 02:13 PM
ROTFLOL, Ichigo's expression is priceless!!! I love it! Thanks so much for the pics Mori and space (and for the translation as well)! Oh man, Nel and her pet Ichigo! I seriously can't wait for the chapter!


LOL, I was wondering about that. I hope it's bridal style with Ichigo as the bride. XD

The classic "smash over the head with a club and drag off by the hair" method might also be suitable.

Zangetsu01
09-13-2007, 02:15 PM
XD, Nell & Ichigo, awesome picture^^:nuts
So, we could have a wonderful fight, Inoue Vs Nel, for the love of Ichigo, :rotflmao
If only it could rain in Hueco Mundo, we'll have an awesome mud fight :rotflmao (the joke is good in french with "combat de boue", but in english, I don't know if i'll be understood... Sorry in advance)

Syn
09-13-2007, 02:22 PM
LMAO Zangetsu XD
Anyway, Ichigo's face is just priceless on that pic :rotflmao now if only I could stop laughing lol. XD
He looks like he's in great shock XD

Riekie
09-13-2007, 02:28 PM
hahahaha aww poor Ichigo...huggled by NelxD

hehe...indeed, his expression is priceless..but ehm..most of the time he looks like this..sooo nothing new there!

Yet again..thanks alot for the pic Mori..you're the best

sephysarkon
09-13-2007, 02:29 PM
AHAHAAH! Poor Ichigo. I couldn't tell if he was trumatized by her boobs being so close to his face, or if he was out cold, either due to that or blood loss/pain.

XD Nice! Thank you Mori and Space!

~the seph

brokenbutton
09-13-2007, 02:34 PM
I actually think if Nel is a 'good gal' and offers help to Ichigo.....it will open up a channel for more character development in Ichigo...

Until now Ichigo has been led to believe all hollows are EVIL. But given the contrast we saw with shingami (i.e. Aizen(bad) and Renji (good))....why couldn't we have both good and bad hollows?

Now, he might not resist his inner hollow as much since it 'can't be all that bad'....ha ha....

I love Nel's new look.....she is the hotness :D

ruukii
09-13-2007, 02:39 PM
from the pics posted, one word fell off from my mouth...

すごい!!!*________*

thanks spacey and Yan and Danna and everyone!!! :nuts

spacecat
09-13-2007, 02:41 PM
lol ruukii, it's not that bad.

bb: but he knew all hollows weren't evil before...she has been a hollow all along @@

Nocturne
09-13-2007, 02:49 PM
Nel is still talking in the 3rd person. Isn't that something young children do in Japan? But I guess we have to wait for the script as what space translated isn't confirmed yet.

chappyrules
09-13-2007, 02:58 PM
Ichigo's face PRICELESS :rofl

Guildenstern
09-13-2007, 03:08 PM
So...
...Nell is KOS-MOS and Ichigo, inexplicably, has become Shion?
...Nell > Ulquiorra? NELL > GRIMMJOW?!
FUND IT
Nel is still talking in the 3rd person. Isn't that something young children do in Japan? But I guess we have to wait for the script as what space translated isn't confirmed yet.
Hisana did it. \(o_____o\)?

Also I'd be shocked too if someone that much bigger than me Sonido'd up behind me and grabbed me from behind. XD

ruukii
09-13-2007, 03:39 PM
LOL Ichigo's face when Nel is holding him really funny XD he looks traumatized that Nel is not that innocent lil kiddy to him anymore~ X3

i'm glad that awesomeness in Bleach is back now!! *_______* can't wait for the full release!!! >___<


Nnoit got pwned by Nel = GIRL POWER!!!! >XD

brightredglow
09-13-2007, 03:57 PM
http://i3.tinypic.com/4yzmsdf.jpg

nell x ichigo get

;)For that expression of Ichigo's alone, I can almost forgive Kubo for Szayel.

Alright, I can forgive Kubo for Szayel (as long as he stays out of sight and dies upon his next appearance but I digress...) because Ichigo looks so doomed helpless and Nel looks so much like a badass shounen hero powerful and the role reversal is just too rich (especially because Ichigo can be such a stingy ass when it comes to letting his friends